Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Muzzleloader Hunting => Topic started by: conwaydave on September 21, 2012, 08:12:48 PM
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So, my son and I went out yesterday, and shot our Bighorn's. We went with the .458 300's Bloodlines. But, I am the guy that was complaining about the Barnes TMZ's being very hard to load a while back. I found out why, that is why we changed bullets. But, yesterday our bloodlines were just as hard to load, as were the Barnes! I changed bullets to get away from the loading problem, and it did not help. My son and I are pretty frustrated. I mean, it takes just about everything I've got to load the bullets. :bash: :bash: We have 50 cal. We start out with clean guns, we run patches down the barrel and clean the barrel after every 3 shots. Both guns are the same, and both are just as hard to load? Once they are loaded they shoot fine I think. Our loads were 100 grains 777 and I have a small group 4" high at 50 yds. I would like to get that down a little. If I am 4" high at 50 yds. What do you think I would be at 100 yds.? I am going back to the range next week. I have shot about 20 rounds through the gun, I was told on here the more I shoot, the easier it will get. OK, I buy that, but for now, it is a Beotch to load!
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Sorry, can't help you much but my Bighorn doesn't have any problem loading the Bloodlines, the TMZ's on the otherhand :bash:. I've got about 30 shots through mine and have yet to notice any difference loading the TMZ's. Would like to get out this weekend for 1 more round at the range before the season starts but I think my area is closed do to fire danger, damn it.
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Maybe give the Barnes TEZ's a try..If things are still tight. Use the TEZ bullet with a Harvester Crush Rib Sabot
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A bunch of us are going to Plantation Range this am. Be there at 10 am. Grab your gun and stop in we will see if we can help you out. I have one old muzzy guy in the group who so far has solved any problem we have had with various smoke poles. Look for the guys from Ghost Camp. You will know us if you see us. We will have two other new to smoke pole guys there too.
Ask for Bobby
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Try some MMP (http://mmpsabots.com/) HPH sabots and get those groups dialed in. :tup: (I know it sucks to buy bullets that come supplied with sabots and end up throwing away the sabot and buy other sabots to place the bullets in, but sometimes that is what you have to do.) Your selected bullet may be fine, but you may need to experiment with different sabots.
The big difference between Black HPH12 and HPH24 is HPH24 is .002" smaller
in loaded diameter. Loaded diameter is a sabot with a bullet inserted.
With a .452 diameter bullet the HPH12 is .507-.508" diameter, the HPH24 is .505"-.506" diameter.
If you have a tight loading rifle you may want to choose the HPH24
or if you have a very tight rifle, consider our 3Petal-EZ.
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conwaydave
Check your PM's....
Also this process would probably cure your problems...
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/lid=13084/guntechdetail/Using_JB_Bore_Paste_and_Kroil_with_the_VFG_Bore_Pellets (http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/lid=13084/guntechdetail/Using_JB_Bore_Paste_and_Kroil_with_the_VFG_Bore_Pellets)
But there is an easier way to get it done...
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I run a patch with bore butter down my barrell after every shot and don't have any issues with loading the blood lines. If I don't use the bore butter then it gets very difficult to get them to budge after the third shot.
