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Title: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: boneaddict on September 22, 2012, 06:42:15 AM: Pasayten Suicide?
Remains found
Two hunters discovered what they believed to be human remains in the Pasayten Wilderness on Tuesday, according to Okanogan County Sheriff Frank Rogers.
“From what we were able to determine at the scene we believe the remains are that of Melissa M. Kerrigan, 27, who had been reported missing from Island County back in September of 2011,” said Sheriff Rogers. She was 27 years old.
The hunters hiked out and contacted the Okanogan County Sheriff’s Office. The next day Okanogan County Deputies Ottis Buzzard and Michael Blake hiked back into the area with the two hunters, who showed the deputies where they discovered the remains.
Kerrigan’s vehicle had been found at the Billygoat Trailhead north of Winthrop on September 29, 2011. Kerrigan had also left a suicide note which her family had found, stating she was going to the wilderness to end her life. People searched for Kerrigan in October of 2011 but nothing was found then.
The human remains were discovered approximately 6 ½ miles into the wilderness from the Billygoat Trailhead.
“It was very nasty terrain with a lot of down fall,” said Sheriff Rogers on Wednesday. “The remains and belongings were brought out last night.”
Island County Sheriff’s Office was notified and they were to speak with Kerrigan’s family last night (Wednesday) to advise them of what was found.
The remains will be sent off for DNA testing, Sheriff Rogers said.
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: bigtex on September 22, 2012, 07:04:33 AM: Very sad. Unfortunately our public lands see a lot of suicides, people go to places they love to end their lives. There are a couple NPS units back east which see several suicides a month in the summer months...
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: Happy Gilmore on September 22, 2012, 07:11:34 AM: A friend of mines' Dad did the same thing back in the mid-1980's when he was sick. Never found him or, any evidence of him.
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: JohnVH on September 22, 2012, 07:46:01 AM: although sad, its much better than them going crazy and shooting up a mall on the way out.
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: Angus on September 22, 2012, 07:48:40 AM: A cousin of mine did the same thing in the Manastash back in 1991, took us a week to find him. Found out later he was involved in a fatality car wreck. :bash:
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Post by: ICEMAN on September 22, 2012, 08:12:13 AM: Very sad. Atleast the family now has closure of sorts...
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: 400out on September 22, 2012, 08:18:48 AM: :'( sad when times come to that and what must be going thru a persons head! Very sad! I often wonder if a suiciding person has a chance to think right after the go beyond the point of no return, and if they regret it :dunno:
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: NW-GSP on September 22, 2012, 08:26:42 AM: Quote from: 400out on September 22, 2012, 08:18:48 AM
:'( sad when times come to that and what must be going thru a persons head! Very sad! I often wonder if a suiciding person has a chance to think right after the go beyond the point of no return, and if they regret it :dunno:

Every person that has jumped off the golden gate bridge has said that they wish they hadn't as soon as they had jumped
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: 400out on September 22, 2012, 08:32:12 AM: and you know this how ;)
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: Houndhunter on September 22, 2012, 09:06:20 AM: You can hear them say it on the way down.....

ok bad joke, but its a pretty sad deal when some one chooses to end their life. Lucky I've never had any close do that, but I know itd be pretty tough to cope with. That kid that died up north some where recently, news said he fell off a cliff to his death, was actually a suicide as well.
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: NW-GSP on September 22, 2012, 09:25:24 AM: Quote from: 400out on September 22, 2012, 08:32:12 AM
and you know this how ;)

Saw it on a history channel show I think. They had interviews with survivors
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: JohnVH on September 22, 2012, 10:00:15 AM: they have to say that, otherwise they probably get a padded room for a while
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: Hunterman on September 22, 2012, 10:21:41 AM: I have always said that if I was stricken with a terminal disease, when it comes time I would end it. I will not put my family through the pain..

Hunterman(Tony)
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: WonkyWapiti on September 22, 2012, 10:50:21 AM: I've had to respond to a number of these suicides in the woods and it's never fun. I figure alot of people think they'd rather head off to the hills to do it rather than do it at home where the family will find them and have to deal with all of the aftermath of that.
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: Wazukie on September 22, 2012, 11:11:00 AM: Quote from: Hunterman on September 22, 2012, 10:21:41 AM
I have always said that if I was stricken with a terminal disease, when it comes time I would end it. I will not put my family through the pain..

Hunterman(Tony)

Over the last 15 years I have dealt with a lot of deaths, both suicide and others. Not sure how you "ending' your own life would be better for you family. The emotional and psychological effects of suicide on the family is usually much greater then when someone dies from a terminal disease . Just my experience.
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: Hermit on September 22, 2012, 11:36:06 AM: Lets see......... Enduring days, months, years in screaming gnawing never ending pain and sickness or going to sleep in the wilderness and letting my family deal with a few picked over white bones in a couple years? I'll have to agree with Hunterman.
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: Wazukie on September 22, 2012, 11:41:32 AM: Well, either way, when your family needs a good counselor, I am available. Got to tell you though, I have personally lived through both and I can assure you that death is never easy.
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: Hermit on September 22, 2012, 02:17:21 PM: I've had a very close family member kill herself......AFTER calling me to make sure I was alright and making sure I would get some money. And I've faced the possibility myself {pancreatic cancer}.........It's a decision you have to make for yourself, you can't make it for someone else.
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: boneaddict on September 22, 2012, 05:03:54 PM: We had a co-worker blow his head off about 3 weeks ago. As a supervisor I took the call. Pretty wierd. He certainly had issues and had a poor work performance, but WOW. His wife dumped him so he made sure she paid. He went into the center of the house after destroying it, and soiled the whole center of the house. She won't go back in it. He knew his son would be the one to find him. I think that sucked. The first thought that came to my mind was he was selfish for doing that to them. Still sorting it out in myh mind.
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: Alchase on September 24, 2012, 08:17:04 AM: Suicide,
I can not think of a more selfish act a person can perform.
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: Gringo31 on September 24, 2012, 08:45:43 AM: Quote
Suicide,
I can not think of a more selfish act a person can perform.

:yeah:

Peope say its to ease the pain of their family. I call BS. I is only about them. THEY don't want to deal with it, play the cards they are dealt. THEY want the easy way out.

Not me, I only get to die once and I want to experience it.....as slow as it may be.
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: Hermit on September 24, 2012, 04:36:59 PM: Your right...... I'd of done it in a minute if things went differently. Piss on the family, they'll get over it. Whats selfish is having the audacity to think you have the right to make that decision for someone else.
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: Gobble Doc on September 24, 2012, 06:02:11 PM: Having gone through this a year ago with a relative I will say that the survivor's don't just "get over it". Knowing now what kind of impact that suicide has on family is hard to describe. If I end up with a terminal illness some day the last thing I want to leave behind is more grief and questions for everyone to deal with. I hope no one thinks they are doing anyone else a favor to end things for themself.
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: Hermit on September 24, 2012, 06:58:25 PM: I've been through it...... I know "you don't just get over it". I'd NEVER tell someone that I know better than them. You can't even imagine what some people go through, they know better than anyone when it's time to go. I had a very close family member kill herself, when the age and pain got too much. And I'd have done the one way hike if my cancer had not been caught when it did. And I have a high threshold for pain. A good day is when I get a little sleep and don't wake up screaming........ Sooooo, don't tell me when I've had enough, that'll be my decision.......My wife would move on richer than now, and soon no one would even know I ever existed.
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: goosewhacker on September 24, 2012, 08:04:47 PM: A good friend of mine decided to off himself in elk camp. Granted it was not during elk season, but the summer before. I camped there that season but it has totally ruined that camp and the group that hunted out of there. I can't go back there. I see the tree that he sat against where he put the shotgun in his mouth and I just can't go back. Just can't do it. Why did he do it? Personal humiliation over a stupid thing he had done. That being said, if I had a terminal illness I would do the same thing, but I sure wouldn't do it it a place special to so many other people. It's tough to find remains in the woods, but what better place to go if that's what you need to do...
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: saylean on September 24, 2012, 08:22:17 PM: glad to see the family get closure. She picked a pretty area to go.
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: Hermit on September 24, 2012, 09:19:33 PM: Yeah, you wouldn't want to off yourself in your long time hunting camp.....Or your best friends back yard......Maybe your ex-wifes husbands Cadillac.........
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: boneaddict on September 25, 2012, 04:55:00 AM: Quote
glad to see the family get closure. She picked a pretty area to go.

That she did Saylean.
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: pilebuck on September 25, 2012, 07:08:03 AM: Last year in the naches i found a guy in his car not good.We were heading back to camp on the last day of early archery picked up our cow at squaw rock in a good mood and were ready to take up camp we were in a good mood had our elk and had a great 2 weeks coming back i had noticed a red volvo parked at hells crossing for a week.I new when i seen it there it just looked out of place passing it every morning thru the week it was parked there i told my hunting buddy theres something weird he said their probally fishing or backpacking i said no it didnt fit well every morning i would say there is the red volvo still there so coming back up 410 he was driving my jeep had our elk in the back we passed hells crossing and he looked hard and said he seen somebody in the car we turned around and i jumped out of my cj and the guy was dead had a 10/22 on his side and did the dirty deed what a ending to a good hunting season.A very selfish act and i have delt with friends before doing it and they suffer all of you say a terminal illness you would. Well man up and go out with dignity :tup:i have a illness and when it comes time i will go out like a man and tell my family its ok i am alright and see them with my last breath instead of having some strangers find me dead in the brush just my feelings :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: saylean on September 25, 2012, 07:45:30 AM: I pulled a body out of the lake sammamish (actually 1 of 2 the whole time I lived there, 1 suicide, 1 drowning). He parked at the park next to the house, smoked a cigarette at the dock and we found him the next morning out front. I dove in after him, but could tell once I grabbed him there was no helping him. The family was thankful. Turns out he had lost his job like a year before, was telling his wife he was still going to work, but hadnt... :dunno:
Id rather not suicide by drowning, but thats me.
Goofy.
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: pilebuck on September 25, 2012, 09:06:02 AM: :yeah:
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: runamuk on September 25, 2012, 09:15:34 AM: So far everyone that has told me they were gonna do it .....didn't.....(has happened more times than most would suspect)

when it comes to terminal illness I am on the fence as I would never let an animal suffer the way some seem to feel a human should :twocents:

so far in my family everyone dies surrounded by family, we may suck ass at weddings and marriage but we rally when it comes to death and dying
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: NW-GSP on September 25, 2012, 09:54:05 AM: Quote from: runamuk on September 25, 2012, 09:15:34 AM
So far everyone that has told me they were gonna do it .....didn't.....(has happened more times than most would suspect)

when it comes to terminal illness I am on the fence as I would never let an animal suffer the way some seem to feel a human should :twocents:

so far in my family everyone dies surrounded by family, we may suck ass at weddings and marriage but we rally when it comes to death and dying

So far everyone I have heard say that they would have not done it.
The people I have known that did do it did it unexpectedly

It's almost like when you have two guys yelling and talking crap, they usually do not end up throwing blows. It usually is a guy that says nothing and just walks up and throws a punch

Always pay attention to the guy that keeps a eye on you but will avoid eye contact
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: runamuk on September 25, 2012, 10:17:28 AM: Quote from: NW-GSP on September 25, 2012, 09:54:05 AM
Quote from: runamuk on September 25, 2012, 09:15:34 AM
So far everyone that has told me they were gonna do it .....didn't.....(has happened more times than most would suspect)

when it comes to terminal illness I am on the fence as I would never let an animal suffer the way some seem to feel a human should :twocents:

so far in my family everyone dies surrounded by family, we may suck ass at weddings and marriage but we rally when it comes to death and dying

So far everyone I have heard say that they would have not done it.
The people I have known that did do it did it unexpectedly

It's almost like when you have two guys yelling and talking crap, they usually do not end up throwing blows. It usually is a guy that says nothing and just walks up and throws a punch

Always pay attention to the guy that keeps a eye on you but will avoid eye contact

well I figure if talking to me is enough to prevent it then please by all means spill....I am a blackhole when it comes to other peoples stuff, maybe that is why I am so open about myself :dunno:

and yes the couple people I know who tried said nothing
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: rosscrazyelk on September 25, 2012, 10:23:44 AM: I had a friend in the teanaway that was camped at indian camp a couple years ago. He was archeery hunting. Had a real friendly guy camped next to him. Went out hunting in the morning when he came back the guy was hanging in the tree. sad
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: mrmoskillz on September 25, 2012, 10:35:23 AM: About 5 years ago we went camping at battleground lake for my birthday and in the morning my wife woke me up saying she found a dead body. I didnt beleive her and went to see for myself and sure enough there was her dead body laying on the trail to the bathroom. The wife was taking my son to the bathroom when she found it she screamed and when my son asked why she said oh there was a dead fish and got him outta there. The night before we were playing cards and heard a real scary scream and I said that sounded like the Blair witch and figure it was her we heard. The lady who killed herself showed up the day b4 in a van and unloaded a lazy boy chair and sat and read her book. we thought it was odd she didnt have a tent or anything. I think it was selfish of her to kill herself in a public park with kids around. later we found out she left a note and she ate a bunch of pills. it was a mess she had foam coming out her month and kids were jumping over her on their bikes b4 the police showed up. I still have the image of her laying there burnt in my brain. Sad but true.
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: bigdave on September 25, 2012, 10:39:59 AM: "kids were jumping over her on their bikes b4 the police showed up"

What the Hell!!!!???? You have got to be kidding. :yike:

It is a strange world we live in. :dunno:
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: KFhunter on September 25, 2012, 10:40:53 AM: Quote from: bigtex on September 22, 2012, 07:04:33 AM
Very sad. Unfortunately our public lands see a lot of suicides, people go to places they love to end their lives. There are a couple NPS units back east which see several suicides a month in the summer months...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2127414/The-suicide-forest-Japan-Mystery-Mount-Fuji-beauty-spot-100-bodies-year.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2127414/The-suicide-forest-Japan-Mystery-Mount-Fuji-beauty-spot-100-bodies-year.html)
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: mrmoskillz on September 25, 2012, 10:41:17 AM: No kidding.
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: pilebuck on September 25, 2012, 10:49:35 AM: Japan what a horriable job its nice to hear people who care not all the tuff guy crap lol
Title: Re: Suicide in the Pasayten
Post by: sooperfly on October 04, 2012, 02:59:33 PM: Confirmed with DNA, as expected. RIP.

http://www.omakchronicle.com/nws/n121002b.shtml (http://www.omakchronicle.com/nws/n121002b.shtml)