Post by: UptheCreek on September 25, 2012, 07:30:22 PM
Post by: boneaddict on September 25, 2012, 07:32:21 PM
Post by: UptheCreek on September 25, 2012, 07:35:00 PM
Post by: Fowlweather25 on September 25, 2012, 07:37:03 PM
Post by: golfguy0912 on September 25, 2012, 07:45:36 PM
Post by: Bigtine96 on September 25, 2012, 07:46:16 PM
Post by: UptheCreek on September 25, 2012, 08:34:20 PM
Post by: antlerman on September 25, 2012, 08:50:21 PM
Post by: deerslyr on September 25, 2012, 08:52:57 PM
:dunno:
:chuckle: :chuckle: :bash:
Post by: Fowlweather25 on September 25, 2012, 09:10:59 PM
Post by: grade-creek-rd on September 25, 2012, 09:11:47 PM
G-C-R
Post by: Limhangerslayer on September 25, 2012, 09:23:37 PM
Post by: WonkyWapiti on September 25, 2012, 09:26:43 PM
Post by: HUNT on September 25, 2012, 09:30:40 PM
Post by: golfguy0912 on September 25, 2012, 09:30:48 PM
No thats a idaho buck
the one i heard was a WA buck, taken about 20 miles from where I live in the winter range during the archery season.
My dad and I both have late rut tags this year, with the quality of deer this early in the season we should be gauranteed a state recored between the two of us :chuckle:
Post by: Limhangerslayer on September 25, 2012, 09:33:57 PM
I have to double check my regs but muzzy opener should be on Saturday.
I know I will post the story and pics when I kill it on Saturday :chuckle:
Post by: crabcreekhunter on September 26, 2012, 12:24:50 AM
Post by: jrebel on September 26, 2012, 12:28:02 AM
Post by: huntnphool on September 26, 2012, 12:36:44 AM
Post by: ldjbuff on September 26, 2012, 06:06:11 AM
Tough to really do anything up there anyways, the nearest police station is 30 miles away. Just like this year, there were people hunting in our gated area, told them to leave had to almost show a pistol to get them to leave. Some people piss me off.
Sorry to high jack lol
Post by: jjhunter on September 26, 2012, 06:50:27 AM
Post by: BLUEBULLS on September 26, 2012, 06:57:37 AM
Washington has the top 3 or 4 (in the world) all time typicals for each weapon-type. There is no way that two animals were killed on the same property in 100 years that would top those bucks, let alone, crush them.
:yeah:
Post by: whacker1 on September 26, 2012, 07:10:09 AM
Buck was killed a little over 3 weeks ago. Not a rumor. I heard the same as UptheCreek that it could be the new state record archery nontypical mule deer. Lots of mass and deep forks.
:yeah:
Post by: MtnMuley on September 26, 2012, 07:54:25 AM
Washington has the top 3 or 4 (in the world) all time typicals for each weapon-type. There is no way that two animals were killed on the same property in 100 years that would top those bucks, let alone, crush them.
:lol4: I've just learned not to respond to comments like this........well, at least most of the time! :chuckle:
Post by: halflife65 on September 26, 2012, 08:03:06 AM
Post by: PlateauNDN on September 26, 2012, 08:23:13 AM
Post by: Huntbear on September 26, 2012, 08:25:53 AM
:peep: :peep: :peep: Hmm....nope, no pics so I concur, this story is not true. :tup: :tup:
I am with you Plat...
:con: :peep:
Post by: quadrafire on September 26, 2012, 08:38:15 AM
Post by: boneaddict on September 26, 2012, 08:39:34 AM
Post by: grundy53 on September 26, 2012, 08:39:41 AM
Post by: quadrafire on September 26, 2012, 08:41:19 AM
Hey Quad, have you seen any pics of this big buck? Me neitherNope
Post by: GEARHEAD on September 26, 2012, 08:44:10 AM
Post by: boneaddict on September 26, 2012, 08:44:58 AM
Post by: fillthefreezer on September 26, 2012, 08:45:57 AM
i heard the sun set yesterday, any reports if this is true.its true:
Post by: boneaddict on September 26, 2012, 08:47:18 AM
Post by: bloodhound on September 26, 2012, 08:51:00 AM
Post by: Alchase on September 26, 2012, 08:55:28 AM
Post by: boneaddict on September 26, 2012, 09:03:11 AM
not to rain on anyones parade,
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Its a nice buck but no way does it go 200", I'd say 170 class main frame with a dropper
THAT ABOUT SUMS it up perfectly. There is no way in hell its even close to the state record. Gross 180 if that.
Post by: MtnMuley on September 26, 2012, 09:23:13 AM
Post by: PlateauNDN on September 26, 2012, 09:29:18 AM
Post by: quadrafire on September 26, 2012, 09:35:24 AM
Post by: Shed Stud on September 26, 2012, 09:38:05 AM
Post by: ldjbuff on September 26, 2012, 09:40:42 AM
Washington has the top 3 or 4 (in the world) all time typicals for each weapon-type. There is no way that two animals were killed on the same property in 100 years that would top those bucks, let alone, crush them.
Ok you must know all. Not even worth getting into. This is why I hardly post on this site. I have helped a few guys on this site on spots, all have gotten into bucks right away. But again I don't know anything.
Post by: GUscottie on September 26, 2012, 09:42:56 AM
Post by: GEARHEAD on September 26, 2012, 09:46:43 AM
Post by: HUNT on September 26, 2012, 09:55:50 AM
Bet a pic doesn't get posted because of all the crap they will have to listen to. Wasnt' even the hunter that claimed the score from what I have read, but they will take the heat anyway :twocents:
Pretty much nailed that one.
Post by: Holg3107 on September 26, 2012, 09:59:40 AM
Sorry just wanted to sticky the thread.
Post by: rosscrazyelk on September 26, 2012, 10:20:02 AM
Post by: jjhunter on September 26, 2012, 10:38:38 AM
Washington has the top 3 or 4 (in the world) all time typicals for each weapon-type. There is no way that two animals were killed on the same property in 100 years that would top those bucks, let alone, crush them.
Ok you must know all. Not even worth getting into. This is why I hardly post on this site. I have helped a few guys on this site on spots, all have gotten into bucks right away. But again I don't know anything.
Your the kinda of guy who wipes his butt but leaves a little poop still in there.
Lol.
Post by: woodywsu on September 26, 2012, 11:00:56 AM
My opinion is at best 175 frame with 15" extras. Not a 220 buck :twocents: I would love to be proven wrong though. This buck was supposedly hanging with a much bigger frame buck but shooter wanted the drop tine buck.
It's a really nice buck regardless of score. Congrats
Post by: HUNT on September 26, 2012, 11:25:11 AM
Post by: woodywsu on September 26, 2012, 11:39:07 AM
Post by: huntnphool on September 26, 2012, 11:48:01 AM
I guess he is saying you don't even know how to wipe your own ars jj, better leave the mule deer scoring to the experts...............lmao :chuckle:Lol.Washington has the top 3 or 4 (in the world) all time typicals for each weapon-type. There is no way that two animals were killed on the same property in 100 years that would top those bucks, let alone, crush them.Ok you must know all. Not even worth getting into. This is why I hardly post on this site. I have helped a few guys on this site on spots, all have gotten into bucks right
away. But again I don't know anything.
Your the kinda of guy who wipes his butt but leaves a little poop still in there.
Post by: grundy53 on September 26, 2012, 11:50:46 AM
Post by: jrebel on September 26, 2012, 12:06:58 PM
Post by: jackmaster on September 26, 2012, 12:14:32 PM
I am eagerly waiting to find out the official score . Its a great buck none the less , congrats to the hunter . On a personal note I hope it is less than 191 3/8. Otherwise I get knocked out of the top 5.damn top 5, would you mind posting a pic of that deer, or point me to a thread that it has been posted in, would like to see that hog congrats :tup:
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on September 26, 2012, 12:18:33 PM
Post by: Kowsrule30 on September 26, 2012, 12:21:53 PM
Sure would like to see a picture of that buck.... wish I had an anonymous source...... :chuckle:
Me to!!!
Post by: popeshawnpaul on September 26, 2012, 12:56:36 PM
Post by: woodywsu on September 26, 2012, 12:59:36 PM
Someone needs to have some kahunas and post a pic...Maybe they are saving it for a magazine :chuckle:
Post by: elkoholic1 on September 26, 2012, 01:00:55 PM
Someone needs to have some kahunas and post a pic...
:yeah:
Post by: M_ray on September 26, 2012, 01:05:52 PM
JJ you using the Ben Frankilins to wipe your Ars again? I told you those are a bit harsh I use the pages out of the WA Big game records book They are softer especially the mule deer section! :chuckle:
Post by: huntnphool on September 26, 2012, 01:07:36 PM
I think the earlier post said Eastmans wanted to tour it. :rolleyes:Someone needs to have some kahunas and post a pic...Maybe they are saving it for a magazine :chuckle:
Post by: BLUEBULLS on September 26, 2012, 01:11:50 PM
Someone needs to have some kahunas and post a pic...
:yeah:
I tried to help here but I can't seem to find any pics of my kahunas... :chuckle:
Post by: RaffleMule on September 26, 2012, 01:24:27 PM
Post by: jjhunter on September 26, 2012, 01:28:03 PM
Well from the pic that was sent me it's a great 178 buck ... That about sums it up for me! :)
JJ you using the Ben Frankilins to wipe your Ars again? I told you those are a bit harsh I use the pages out of the WA Big game records book They are softer especially the mule deer section! :chuckle:
No way, man. I am saving those for my Governor's tag for mule deer... So I can beat that little 218 5/8" net typical currently holding the #1 spot. I'm a gonna crush it! Lol.
Post by: BLUEBULLS on September 26, 2012, 01:28:19 PM
I will throw out 191" TOTAL GROSS SCI(Everything he grew cause thats how I measure them). Sweet buck for sure.
And BlueBulls, I dare you. LOL
tried, it said the file was too large :chuckle:
sorry, now back to the buck... I've seen 2 pics, 1 looks 180's ish the other looks over 200" :dunno:
Post by: boneaddict on September 26, 2012, 01:37:45 PM
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Just wondering if any of you have heard about the possible new state typical muley record buck taken by a bow? I saw some pics of it and the word is that is measures out at 220" gross and could be in the lower 200 net. The deductions are from a 10 inch dropper
One can be damn proud of this buck, but heresay of 5 scorers putting it over 200 etc. Thats NUTZ or someone is using their stretchy tape again.
Post by: huntnphool on September 26, 2012, 01:43:34 PM
Post by: M_ray on September 26, 2012, 02:35:02 PM
I'd be tickled to have it its a nice buck for sure! :tup:
If MRay has it at 178' you can be assured it's at least 188'........ :chuckle:
Yeah I thought the buck in my avatar was 156 too, right? ;)
Post by: golfguy0912 on September 26, 2012, 02:40:30 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on September 26, 2012, 02:46:33 PM
Post by: elkoholic1 on September 26, 2012, 02:46:51 PM
5 pages and still no pictures... :yike:
:yeah: what up!!!
Post by: Austrian Hunter on September 26, 2012, 02:50:19 PM
Post by: h20hunter on September 26, 2012, 02:51:40 PM
Post by: UptheCreek on September 26, 2012, 03:07:58 PM
Post by: boneaddict on September 26, 2012, 03:10:53 PM
Post by: Bigbuckoholic on September 26, 2012, 03:40:52 PM
Post by: benhuntin on September 26, 2012, 04:00:03 PM
Post by: elkoholic1 on September 26, 2012, 04:16:41 PM
Post by: M_ray on September 26, 2012, 04:54:34 PM
Post by: CedarPants on September 26, 2012, 05:08:44 PM
Post by: antlerking on September 26, 2012, 05:16:09 PM
Post by: Holg3107 on September 26, 2012, 05:17:48 PM
Post by: bullfisher on September 26, 2012, 05:24:05 PM
Here is my skecth from the pic i have gotten, its the best i can do, I think it is pretty close!Wow. That things a toad! How'd they get it to smile like that?
Post by: deerslyr on September 26, 2012, 05:33:46 PM
:chuckle:
Post by: UptheCreek on September 26, 2012, 05:34:09 PM
Post by: 400out on September 26, 2012, 05:40:48 PM
Post by: Caseyd on September 26, 2012, 05:48:49 PM
Post by: Archery King on September 26, 2012, 06:11:29 PM
Post by: huntnphool on September 26, 2012, 06:12:54 PM
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on September 26, 2012, 06:13:46 PM
Post by: rtspring on September 26, 2012, 06:16:47 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on September 26, 2012, 06:20:02 PM
Here's a pic. Smallest buck ever, new WA record. Not the pic you guys are waiting for but it's all I could do on short notice.:chuckle: :chuckle: :brew: :cue: :kneel:
Post by: bullfisher on September 26, 2012, 06:30:34 PM
Post by: bearhunter99 on September 26, 2012, 06:34:45 PM
Post by: Archery King on September 26, 2012, 06:35:49 PM
Post by: UBA on September 26, 2012, 06:36:49 PM
Post by: Archery King on September 26, 2012, 06:37:55 PM
sorry
(fixed your link)
Post by: jrebel on September 26, 2012, 06:43:44 PM
Post by: UBA on September 26, 2012, 06:48:16 PM
Post by: BLUEBULLS on September 26, 2012, 06:48:47 PM
I am not good at scoring...but that is one heck of a nice buck!! Especially an archery buck. Congrats to the hunter. :tup: :tup:
Post by: stickbuck on September 26, 2012, 06:51:26 PM
The Facebook photo is sweet. Great buck bigger than anything I've shot.
:yeah: I'm sure everyone will debate the score until its final, but that thing is a stud WA buck for sure. I can only dream of a buck like that some day.
Post by: Bigtine96 on September 26, 2012, 07:03:39 PM
Post by: Archery King on September 26, 2012, 07:07:08 PM
Post by: mkcj on September 26, 2012, 07:07:58 PM
Post by: UptheCreek on September 26, 2012, 07:28:14 PM
Post by: Curly on September 26, 2012, 07:39:35 PM
Congrats. :tup:
Post by: X-Force on September 26, 2012, 07:40:47 PM
Post by: Archery King on September 26, 2012, 07:50:06 PM
Post by: golfguy0912 on September 26, 2012, 07:53:42 PM
Post by: huntnphool on September 26, 2012, 08:00:44 PM
Post by: BoomWhop on September 26, 2012, 08:02:57 PM
Post by: JLS on September 26, 2012, 08:03:26 PM
Post by: muleyslayer#1 on September 26, 2012, 08:10:02 PM
Post by: jjhunter on September 26, 2012, 08:12:15 PM
Post by: 400out on September 26, 2012, 08:19:40 PM
Post by: heavy hauler on September 26, 2012, 08:20:04 PM
Post by: M_ray on September 26, 2012, 08:28:17 PM
Post by: Hyde on September 26, 2012, 08:29:44 PM
Post by: grade-creek-rd on September 26, 2012, 08:30:12 PM
G-C-R
Post by: Huntbear on September 26, 2012, 08:38:21 PM
Post by: grade-creek-rd on September 26, 2012, 09:02:08 PM
http://www.nwbiggame.com/trophy_details.cfm?id=2274 (http://www.nwbiggame.com/trophy_details.cfm?id=2274)
It lists the non-typical WA archery #1 buck as being 203 3/8" out of...Chelan Co (shocker...that place never puts out big bucks).
G-C-R
Post by: huntnphool on September 26, 2012, 09:17:06 PM
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on September 26, 2012, 09:28:29 PM
Post by: coachcw on September 26, 2012, 09:31:24 PM
mule deer speacialist and are pretty good on elk too.! congrats to the hunter .
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Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on September 26, 2012, 09:36:45 PM
This is a 220" buck.
This is a 200+ buck....."the one that got away"...Sorry..had to throw a whitetail in the mix :chuckle:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1210.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc413%2Fdbhawthorne%2FMonster.jpg&hash=39f3de5d6f7ff5f0591760b614fd45fe8c8666be)
Post by: xXLojackXx on September 26, 2012, 09:44:54 PM
Here is a link to the NW Big Game Inc book (private company that offers a book of records).
http://www.nwbiggame.com/trophy_details.cfm?id=2274 (http://www.nwbiggame.com/trophy_details.cfm?id=2274)
It lists the non-typical WA archery #1 buck as being 203 3/8" out of...Chelan Co (shocker...that place never puts out big bucks).
G-C-R
Hard to tell from the angle, but the drop tine velvet buck doesnt look much smaller than that Chelan state record at all to me. i bet it's pushing 200' class if not over.
Post by: bloodhound on September 26, 2012, 09:50:15 PM
Post by: wilsongideon on September 26, 2012, 09:54:12 PM
Post by: M_ray on September 26, 2012, 09:56:47 PM
This buck is 34.5" wide The buck in question doesn't even look to reach his ears? even if all other things were considered ... what am I missing?
Post by: MtnMuley on September 26, 2012, 10:05:46 PM
Post by: popeshawnpaul on September 26, 2012, 10:07:06 PM
Post by: deerslyr on September 26, 2012, 10:24:36 PM
An awesome archery buck regardless
Post by: xXLojackXx on September 26, 2012, 10:29:32 PM
Post by: JLS on September 26, 2012, 10:35:08 PM
Awesome buck!!! But how did *censored* get twisted about it being 200, none the less 220? Like said a 170 main frame with some extras.
An awesome archery buck regardless
If that's a 170 frame I'll eat my hat.
Post by: deerslyr on September 26, 2012, 10:47:53 PM
Awesome buck!!! But how did *censored* get twisted about it being 200, none the less 220? Like said a 170 main frame with some extras.
An awesome archery buck regardless
If that's a 170 frame I'll eat my hat.
Hope you have tobasco sauce then?
Post by: mkcj on September 26, 2012, 11:08:05 PM
Post by: bobcat on September 26, 2012, 11:11:02 PM
Awesome buck!!! But how did *censored* get twisted about it being 200, none the less 220? Like said a 170 main frame with some extras.
An awesome archery buck regardless
If that's a 170 frame I'll eat my hat.
What kind of hat is it? You think it's bigger or smaller than 170?
Post by: firefighter4607 on September 27, 2012, 12:22:32 AM
Post by: boneaddict on September 27, 2012, 05:00:08 AM
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No doubt the guys at advantage will do a great job . they are
mule deer speacialist and are pretty good on elk too.! congrats to the hunter .
I am hoping they are better taxidermists than scorers.
Post by: boneaddict on September 27, 2012, 05:04:56 AM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv47%2Fboneaddict%2FMVC-004S.jpg&hash=db6daba90f26c293fb1e8741a94c0735f282d9b6)
Post by: 400out on September 27, 2012, 05:21:57 AM
Hey! Crop me outta that pic! :chuckle::chuckle:
Post by: Ridgerunner on September 27, 2012, 06:05:31 AM
Post by: coachcw on September 27, 2012, 06:25:49 AM
Bone first of all nice 40 inch buck . What I can say about advantage taxidermy is Chuck Berg takes alot of pride in his work and does a mullie justace if he scored the buck I would trust it as ridge said and we all know pic can be desieving that buck had deep forks for sure. It makes me think of a buck I saw acouple of years ago and had just over 200 field judged , maybe that old boy was bigger than I thaught . anyway we are due for some of BONES field pics arn't we ?QuoteNo doubt the guys at advantage will do a great job . they are
mule deer speacialist and are pretty good on elk too.! congrats to the hunter .
I am hoping they are better taxidermists than scorers.
Post by: CedarPants on September 27, 2012, 06:33:21 AM
Threads like these are what make me decide to not talk about my hunts on here, let alone share pics of them. :twocents:
Great buck, I don't give a crap what it scores - it's the buck of a lifetime. Congrats
Post by: nwhunter on September 27, 2012, 06:33:30 AM
Post by: Bigtine96 on September 27, 2012, 06:36:30 AM
Post by: boneaddict on September 27, 2012, 06:39:52 AM
I am due to get out. Probably why I am a bit surly. I am currently in the fall negotiation time with the Mrs. This year the union isn't budgeing. :) I have ONE day tomorrow after coming off a double today to put together either an elk or a moose adventure, or stay home and get more surly. We'll see.
Good to hear about the taxidermist. I don't know his work at all. I am deadset that this score is false though. I hear alot of stories of Taxis boosting scores, much like guides do to make their clients happy I guess. This almost seems like one of those cases. I hope not.
Cedarpants, I don't tend to spread misinformation. It has nothing to do with manhood. Claiming an awsome buck is one thing. Claiming a 200+ state record, or a 220 inch buck for that matter is another. That is indeed an awesome buck with a bow. You'd think I might understand that wouldn't you. I'd be giddy as a little schoolgirl to see that buck and or to tag it. That doesn't make it the STATE RECORD.
Bigtine is correct, except I expect this one to shrink about 30 inches instead of 6.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on September 27, 2012, 06:40:59 AM
Post by: coachcw on September 27, 2012, 06:44:26 AM
Post by: CedarPants on September 27, 2012, 06:48:29 AM
Post by: JLS on September 27, 2012, 06:53:31 AM
Awesome buck!!! But how did *censored* get twisted about it being 200, none the less 220? Like said a 170 main frame with some extras.
An awesome archery buck regardless
If that's a 170 frame I'll eat my hat.
What kind of hat is it? You think it's bigger or smaller than 170?
I could eat my wool hat, or one of my sweaty stinky ballcaps, or my fleece beanie? That deer is bigger than 170.
Post by: Woodchuck on September 27, 2012, 06:56:20 AM
Post by: bullfisher on September 27, 2012, 07:51:55 AM
Post by: whacker1 on September 27, 2012, 07:58:35 AM
Its definitely over 170 maybe not 200. Hard to tell from that pic. Is it just me or is the dude in the picture just huge? Put Randy Ulmer behind that deer and its 220 all day.
the hunter is a big dude. 6'4"ish and very broad shouldered.
Post by: Holg3107 on September 27, 2012, 09:09:31 AM
Post by: Gringo31 on September 27, 2012, 09:16:02 AM
Post by: elkoholic1 on September 27, 2012, 09:26:57 AM
Post by: 724wd on September 27, 2012, 09:58:39 AM
Post by: buck man on September 27, 2012, 10:54:22 AM
Post by: bearhunter99 on September 27, 2012, 10:55:40 AM
Post by: gutsnthegrass on September 27, 2012, 11:19:11 AM
Post by: Kowsrule30 on September 27, 2012, 12:18:15 PM
Not to smart to cut the cap off, the whole rack will shrink alot more now while drying. Should have left the whole skull, a friend of mine killed a 205" 2 years ago and cut the skull plate off. It shrunk 3 inches in width and 6 off the total gross.
My buddy told me this years ago and I wanted to test the theory... Dad and I both got spike bulls that year... We measured them.... I know sad but what can you do.... :chuckle: Capped one and left the other whole.... The capped one lost 2 1/4" in witdth!!!!! The whole head only a 1/2"....
Great buck no matter the score... I would never pass one up that size....
Post by: huntnphool on September 27, 2012, 01:29:28 PM
Everyone is entitled to their opinions on here, agree to disagree and move on, some of you guys really need to relax. :chuckle:
Post by: quadrafire on September 27, 2012, 01:38:20 PM
First of all, I don't think anyone said it's not a nice buck, nobody can argue that. Second, some of you guys act as those a 170's class buck in Washington is a insult. Few hunters in this state have ever tagged a 170 class Washington Muley, at least a "honest" 170 class that is. :chuckle:And then there are those of us that have never even Seen a 170 class buck, and wouldn't know it if we did.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions on here, agree to disagree and move on, some of you guys really need to relax. :chuckle:
:chuckle: smiley added
Post by: huntnphool on September 27, 2012, 01:40:20 PM
you'd know it Quad ;)First of all, I don't think anyone said it's not a nice buck, nobody can argue that. Second, some of you guys act as those a 170's class buck in Washington is a insult. Few hunters in this state have ever tagged a 170 class Washington Muley, at least a "honest" 170 class that is. :chuckle:And then there are those of us that have never even Seen a 170 class buck, and wouldn't know it if we did.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions on here, agree to disagree and move on, some of you guys really need to relax. :chuckle:
Post by: whacker1 on September 27, 2012, 01:53:52 PM
Post by: boneaddict on September 27, 2012, 01:54:57 PM
Post by: LDennis24 on September 27, 2012, 02:24:02 PM
Post by: huntnphool on September 27, 2012, 02:29:46 PM
Looks like it may go high 180's easy.Which is about where my original prediction put it, "a 170 class main frame with a dropper" ;)
Post by: blacktailer on September 27, 2012, 02:46:51 PM
MOST "Booner" bucks seen in this state are 160-170 inch deer. Then there is the occasional 150 :chuckle:
You hit the nail on the head with that one... Nobody is trying to take away from that being a heck of a great buck anywhere, let alone Wa. Headlines reading New State Record is always going to drum up a lot of comments and drama. I certainly don't see 200 inches of bone or anything close to it for that matter, but I have not seen it held it or measured it so I'll leave that to those who have pulled a tape on it. Would I be tickled to death to shoot a deer like that? Hell yes...
Post by: Karl Blanchard on September 27, 2012, 05:00:46 PM
Post by: link on September 27, 2012, 05:03:10 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on September 27, 2012, 05:04:00 PM
Does my HSLAH method of scoring elk work on deer?you'd know it Quad ;)First of all, I don't think anyone said it's not a nice buck, nobody can argue that. Second, some of you guys act as those a 170's class buck in Washington is a insult. Few hunters in this state have ever tagged a 170 class Washington Muley, at least a "honest" 170 class that is. :chuckle:And then there are those of us that have never even Seen a 170 class buck, and wouldn't know it if we did.
Everyone is entitled to their opinions on here, agree to disagree and move on, some of you guys really need to relax. :chuckle:
Post by: Caseyd on September 27, 2012, 05:09:21 PM
MOST "Booner" bucks seen in this state are 160-170 inch deer. Then there is the occasional 150 :chuckle:
What would that big 4x4 you had a picture of last year or year before score out at?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on September 27, 2012, 05:17:59 PM
Post by: boneaddict on September 27, 2012, 05:25:51 PM
That 4x4 I guessed maybe would go 190. I wasn't sure if hed make it or not as his fronts were a bit weak. I think we settled on short of the 190 mark.
Post by: link on September 27, 2012, 05:31:03 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on September 27, 2012, 05:38:21 PM
Looking at the field photo, I may have underestimated the 3's and 4's. I did give him 3" for the eyeguards. It is tough to tell on the mass though, being in velvet. A buck that has 18" of mass is a super heavy buck. I'm not going to pick it apart though. Scoring photos is not really scoring, its somewhat educated guessing!Agreed 100%! It sure is fun to guess though!
Post by: Caseyd on September 27, 2012, 05:59:01 PM
That 4x4 I guessed maybe would go 190. I wasn't sure if hed make it or not as his fronts were a bit weak. I think we settled on short of the 190 mark.
:tup: One of my favorite bucks
Post by: boneaddict on September 27, 2012, 07:59:38 PM
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Post by: 400out on September 27, 2012, 08:30:03 PM
Post by: M_ray on September 27, 2012, 09:01:19 PM
If the poster, hunter or friends would have posted "hey check out this great buck?" there wouldn't be one negative post about it, but if you are going to make a claim like this you better be right and it better look right too thats all I'm saying.
Here is what a real 220 buck looks like, before you guys get all up in arms again This WA buck is a stud of a buck I just cant stretch 220 out of it :dunno: Also they are calling this one a possible World Record Buck ... so you are going to tell me next that this WA buck is now close to a World Record? :nono:
http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2012/09/04/possible-world-record-mule-deer-with-a-bow-2012/ (http://blog.kingsoutdoorworld.com/2012/09/04/possible-world-record-mule-deer-with-a-bow-2012/)
Post by: Karl Blanchard on September 27, 2012, 09:07:08 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on September 27, 2012, 09:08:21 PM
Post by: boneaddict on September 27, 2012, 09:15:40 PM
Post by: quadrafire on September 27, 2012, 09:19:59 PM
Is pic #1 a match to it?
Post by: boneaddict on September 27, 2012, 09:23:07 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 27, 2012, 09:34:20 PM
I would agree with all the guys on here that I know can score very well. Why I am no master at the tape. I would bet money that buck would not break 200" I would guess around 180-190 a true stud but I see 190 at the very very high end. I have put my hands on more then a couple deer that tape out at 160-170. He is bigger then that but no 220.
Post by: autodink13 on September 27, 2012, 09:43:17 PM
Tall bucks with deep forks add up real fast! I kind of feel I'm being a little conservative on a couple of those measurements. :twocents:
Post by: M_ray on September 27, 2012, 09:56:57 PM
Mray explains it best 400. Just trying to keep it real.
What do I know Bone ??? Just look at my avaitar I kill little bucks! And that one is 22"-23" tall and has 25" mains :rolleyes:
Post by: M_ray on September 27, 2012, 09:59:35 PM
Post by: 300UltraMagShooter on September 27, 2012, 10:01:07 PM
Post by: quadrafire on September 27, 2012, 10:02:23 PM
Ya'll are crazy. Def 220 buck... :drool:I noticed that, but skipped over it. Looks like a dandy
Post by: autodink13 on September 27, 2012, 10:08:00 PM
Post by: Limhangerslayer on September 27, 2012, 10:11:59 PM
Post by: bobcat on September 27, 2012, 10:14:28 PM
The score is debatable, but the mounting job isn't :o. WTH?
Yeah I wondered about that myself. So they just took it and screwed it to a board? Too bad. Should have at least done a Euro mount with it.
Post by: ellensburgpo on September 27, 2012, 10:15:36 PM
The score is debatable, but the mounting job isn't :o. WTH?
Gonna go out on a limb here and say that's not the final mount...
Post by: M_ray on September 27, 2012, 10:32:57 PM
Ya'll are crazy. Def 220 buck... :drool:I noticed that, but skipped over it. Looks like a dandy
LOL Yeah they are both stud bucks! :tup:
Post by: JLS on September 28, 2012, 07:26:47 AM
The score is debatable, but the mounting job isn't :o. WTH?
Gonna go out on a limb here and say that's not the final mount...
I'm guessing it's just a way to secure it while they preserve the velvet and all the rack to dry.
Post by: big bucks on September 28, 2012, 09:56:30 PM
Post by: buckmaster_wa on September 28, 2012, 10:12:13 PM
So, what does a 220 buck look like? THis shed is the State Record and is currently 3rd in the world. It measures 96+ x2 =192 inches. 30 inch spread credit..... 222 (no deductions) I'll hold it to a 170 buck, and my 178 buck which is 33+ wide.
So Bone, Wouldnt that mean that the buck would have 30 inch main beams. Because you only get a spread credit that is equal to the main beam length right?
Post by: buckmaster_wa on September 28, 2012, 10:26:46 PM
Post by: boneaddict on September 29, 2012, 07:45:22 AM
Post by: Archery King on September 29, 2012, 01:14:47 PM
Post by: huntnphool on September 29, 2012, 01:42:19 PM
Post by: deerslyr on September 29, 2012, 02:19:16 PM
Which post did anyone say it scored 170?
I think most people confuse 170 main frame and total score.
Post by: widebear on September 29, 2012, 03:18:01 PM
Post by: UptheCreek on September 29, 2012, 03:26:52 PM
Post by: Mudman on September 29, 2012, 03:44:54 PM
Post by: boneaddict on September 29, 2012, 07:12:09 PM
Post by: bow-n-head on September 29, 2012, 07:48:57 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 29, 2012, 07:54:09 PM
170 frame. Exactly as Phool stated. Its bigger than 170. I usually talk NET when talking records, because eventhough it takes a net to land a fish, it also takes NET to be the State Record. I will be absolutely ecstatic to see this bucks final score in the record book. Its a very nice buck. Greater than 200 is a like a holy grail in this state if not the world. 220 is .......Well, UNREAL.
That is 100% spot on right there. The record books are in net "most of them" There is no way he will be over 200 net.
Post by: JLS on September 29, 2012, 08:28:00 PM
I cant wait for the offical card to come out so all of you can eat your words and JLS i guess is gonna eat a hat??? :twocents:
No way man. I said I'll eat my hat if it IS a 170 buck. I think it is much bigger.
Post by: Seabass on September 30, 2012, 09:10:36 PM
Post by: Ballance1 on October 01, 2012, 07:45:01 PM
Post by: Archery King on November 02, 2012, 04:45:23 PM
So now bring on some more haters cause god knows its coming. ....
Like i said when i originally posted the picture the buck DOES score well over 200", some of you need to realize that you cant judge every buck or bull by a pic and i hope this proves that
Post by: Archery King on November 02, 2012, 04:52:10 PM
Post by: JLS on November 02, 2012, 04:57:49 PM
Edit: I'll be Captain Obvious and restate the obvious, that is an INCREDIBLE buck.
Post by: boneaddict on November 02, 2012, 05:02:31 PM
Post by: Archery King on November 02, 2012, 05:03:14 PM
Post by: Archery King on November 02, 2012, 05:04:05 PM
Post by: mkcj on November 02, 2012, 05:10:37 PM
Post by: Archery King on November 02, 2012, 05:17:10 PM
Post by: bobcat on November 02, 2012, 05:43:00 PM
Post by: boneaddict on November 02, 2012, 05:49:00 PM
Post by: boneaddict on November 02, 2012, 05:58:20 PM
Typical is 203 and change as well archery which is the record I was referring to being broken. I saw it as a 180 typical.
Post by: RadSav on November 02, 2012, 06:05:36 PM
no the velvet stayed
I did not see where the 5% velvet deduction was applied :dunno:
Post by: huntnphool on November 02, 2012, 06:34:19 PM
I have some "official" score sheets myself and mine are measured in 1/8th's, what program is he using?
I am probably wrong but I still don't see it, great buck though. :twocents:
Post by: mkcj on November 02, 2012, 06:38:24 PM
Post by: jjhunter on November 02, 2012, 06:40:06 PM
Post by: Archery King on November 02, 2012, 06:41:15 PM
huntnphool just admit u were wrong holy crap man the buck was scored by an official pope & young scorer the guy has been doing it for years im pretty sure he is a little better at it than you! you have not even seen the buck!
Post by: jjhunter on November 02, 2012, 06:44:34 PM
Look at the differences as well. I see several discrepancies - is someone bad at math?
I guess it makes sense if those are "1/8ths"?
Post by: boneaddict on November 02, 2012, 06:46:44 PM
Look at the differences as well. I see several discrepancies - is someone bad at math?
Holy crap, I hadn't noticed that. Several places :dunno:
Post by: bearhunter99 on November 02, 2012, 06:57:35 PM
Post by: boneaddict on November 02, 2012, 07:03:13 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 02, 2012, 07:05:35 PM
I have seen a scorer do this before, the number after the decimal is the number in eighths so 3.6=3 6/8 and 4.2=4 2/8 which makes the difference 4/8 or .4That makes sense
Post by: bearhunter99 on November 02, 2012, 07:07:01 PM
Post by: boneaddict on November 02, 2012, 07:08:05 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 02, 2012, 07:12:13 PM
huntnphool just admit u were wrong holy crap man the buck was scored by an official pope & young scorer the guy has been doing it for years im pretty sure he is a little better at it than you! you have not even seen the buck!Sorry AK, I just don't see it but I'll tell you what. You make arrangements to have it dropped off and scored at the sportsman show in Puyallup this year. If it indeed scores 210" I'll pay to have it entered into the book right there myself. :tup:
Post by: Archery King on November 02, 2012, 08:11:01 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 02, 2012, 08:17:10 PM
It will be at the show in the eastmans deer tour exhibit so dont worry you will get to see it yourself.I'll be looking for it. ;)
Post by: HUNT on November 02, 2012, 08:21:09 PM
Dont sweat it. You are never going to convince everyone, regardless of the proof you have. It's just too bad that some try to cast a cloud over such a great animal and the experience. Congrats to Ryan. I can see why so many stories and great animals never get shared on here.
Post by: CedarPants on November 02, 2012, 08:42:01 PM
AK-
Dont sweat it. You are never going to convince everyone, regardless of the proof you have. It's just too bad that some try to cast a cloud over such a great animal and the experience. Congrats to Ryan. I can see why so many stories and great animals never get shared on here.
:yeah:
Post by: Kola16 on November 02, 2012, 08:46:14 PM
Post by: UptheCreek on November 02, 2012, 09:10:25 PM
Post by: huntnphool on November 02, 2012, 09:23:47 PM
It sure is funny that guys will still argue about a buck even after they see the official score sheet. I guess if a mule deer isn't 35 inches wide and being long armed in the picture then it must be only a 170 inch deer. Some guys are just plain crazy. Congrats to the hunter on a fine trophy!Nobody is saying its not a nice buck, we all are entitled to our own opinions on what people post up as scores.
Post by: widebear on November 02, 2012, 09:55:46 PM
AK-
Dont sweat it. You are never going to convince everyone, regardless of the proof you have. It's just too bad that some try to cast a cloud over such a great animal and the experience. Congrats to Ryan. I can see why so many stories and great animals never get shared on here.
No kidding HUNT. It's like a bunch of 6 year olds on here.
Poor UptheCreek gets on here and asked a QUESTION about a 200" buck and he gets blasted by the horn whores on here. Now it was scored officially and they still question it.
Unreal.
Now for some facts. It will be entered in the NW Big Game book and it will be #1 today. There isn't a category for Velvet Mule Deer in the 3rd edition printed in 2011. The official scorer called and asked about it,and "no one has ever entered one so send it in". So in 5 more years when the 4 edition comes out it might be #1 or #10. It is a 210" deer NET(no fish here) doesn't matter where it's at. It is what it is. No the pictures don't do it justice. But that doesn't matter either, well except to some phools.
The story and pictures will be in the Mule Deer issue or as Eastman's people call it "The Granddaddy Issue of the Year". It will hit the stands on Jan 15th. Now about the quote about the Eastman's Tour, it is being considered for the tour and in our mind, well we're not holding our breath.
Will it be in Puyallup's Sportsman show. We were thinking about it but after this forum don't know. We might get talked into taking it to Puyallup because the hunting partner that was involved in this hunt lives close by. What do you think RBlue? We will take it to the Big Horn Show in Spokane.
The last fact is my kid killed one hell of a deer. It scores 210. So keep casting the clouds over it if it makes you feel better.
Post by: Kola16 on November 02, 2012, 10:04:04 PM
AK-
Dont sweat it. You are never going to convince everyone, regardless of the proof you have. It's just too bad that some try to cast a cloud over such a great animal and the experience. Congrats to Ryan. I can see why so many stories and great animals never get shared on here.
No kidding HUNT. It's like a bunch of 6 year olds on here.
Poor UptheCreek gets on here and asked a QUESTION about a 200" buck and he gets blasted by the horn whores on here. Now it was scored officially and they still question it.
Unreal.
Now for some facts. It will be entered in the NW Big Game book and it will be #1 today. There isn't a category for Velvet Mule Deer in the 3rd edition printed in 2011. The official scorer called and asked about it,and "no one has ever entered one so send it in". So in 5 more years when the 4 edition comes out it might be #1 or #10. It is a 210" deer NET(no fish here) doesn't matter where it's at. It is what it is. No the pictures don't do it justice. But that doesn't matter either, well except to some phools.
The story and pictures will be in the Mule Deer issue or as Eastman's people call it "The Granddaddy Issue of the Year". It will hit the stands on Jan 15th. Now about the quote about the Eastman's Tour, it is being considered for the tour and in our mind, well we're not holding our breath.
Will it be in Puyallup's Sportsman show. We were thinking about it but after this forum don't know. We might get talked into taking it to Puyallup because the hunting partner that was involved in this hunt lives close by. What do you think RBlue? We will take it to the Big Horn Show in Spokane.
The last fact is my kid killed one hell of a deer. It scores 210. So keep casting the clouds over it if it makes you feel better.
You tell your kid that it is an amazing buck and that I am his number 1 fan :tup: :tup: :tup: And then get him to tell me exactly where he shot it :chuckle: But really, it is a great buck, and I think some are just jealous on here. I really wish that I could see it, but I live nowhere near Puyallup or Spokane :P If I did live near Puyallup, I would be begging you to take it.
Post by: huntnphool on November 02, 2012, 10:11:25 PM
Well I'm a subscriber so I'll look forward to reading about it if its not in the Tour. :tup:
The story and pictures will be in the Mule Deer issue or as Eastman's people call it "The Granddaddy Issue of the Year". It will hit the stands on Jan 15th. Now about the quote about the Eastman's Tour, it is being considered for the tour and in our mind, well we're not holding our breath.
Post by: whacker1 on November 02, 2012, 10:21:48 PM
AK-
Dont sweat it. You are never going to convince everyone, regardless of the proof you have. It's just too bad that some try to cast a cloud over such a great animal and the experience. Congrats to Ryan. I can see why so many stories and great animals never get shared on here.
No kidding HUNT. It's like a bunch of 6 year olds on here.
Poor UptheCreek gets on here and asked a QUESTION about a 200" buck and he gets blasted by the horn whores on here. Now it was scored officially and they still question it.
Unreal.
Now for some facts. It will be entered in the NW Big Game book and it will be #1 today. There isn't a category for Velvet Mule Deer in the 3rd edition printed in 2011. The official scorer called and asked about it,and "no one has ever entered one so send it in". So in 5 more years when the 4 edition comes out it might be #1 or #10. It is a 210" deer NET(no fish here) doesn't matter where it's at. It is what it is. No the pictures don't do it justice. But that doesn't matter either, well except to some phools.
The story and pictures will be in the Mule Deer issue or as Eastman's people call it "The Granddaddy Issue of the Year". It will hit the stands on Jan 15th. Now about the quote about the Eastman's Tour, it is being considered for the tour and in our mind, well we're not holding our breath.
Will it be in Puyallup's Sportsman show. We were thinking about it but after this forum don't know. We might get talked into taking it to Puyallup because the hunting partner that was involved in this hunt lives close by. What do you think RBlue? We will take it to the Big Horn Show in Spokane.
The last fact is my kid killed one hell of a deer. It scores 210. So keep casting the clouds over it if it makes you feel better.
Ryan Killed a hell of a buck, thank you for sharing it with us AK and others. Can't wait to see it in person.
Post by: RadSav on November 03, 2012, 01:44:23 AM
no the velvet stayed
I did not see where the 5% velvet deduction was applied :dunno:
I also thought the minimum for P&Y non-typical Muledeer was 12-4/8". I'm not trying to be a naysayer. Just wanting to know how it made it into the non-typical category and whether the 5% velvet deduction was represented in that score. Just so I can understand the full scope of the measuring on this fantastic buck.
I doubt I would have stripped the velvet either. Just wouldn't be the same deer mounted without it.
I am thrilled to see such an outstanding animal coming from a Washington State bowhunter. That is a stud of a buck. The likes of which I will probably never set eyes on in the field. I'm very, very happy for the hunter. What an accomplishment!
Post by: Mongo on November 03, 2012, 04:30:57 AM
Post by: PA BEN on November 03, 2012, 06:32:28 AM
Mule deer can have no more then 5 normal points, including brow point (G-1) and main beam tip (G-2) per side. That long drop tine is a deduct unless you chose non-typical. It's up to the owner to chose typical or non-typical.no the velvet stayed
I did not see where the 5% velvet deduction was applied :dunno:
I also thought the minimum for P&Y non-typical Muledeer was 12-4/8". I'm not trying to be a naysayer. Just wanting to know how it made it into the non-typical category and whether the 5% velvet deduction was represented in that score. Just so I can understand the full scope of the measuring on this fantastic buck.
I doubt I would have stripped the velvet either. Just wouldn't be the same deer mounted without it.
I am thrilled to see such an outstanding animal coming from a Washington State bowhunter. That is a stud of a buck. The likes of which I will probably never set eyes on in the field. I'm very, very happy for the hunter. What an accomplishment!
Post by: whacker1 on November 03, 2012, 06:38:18 AM
Good job RadSav, you know your p and y scoring. It needs 12.5 of nt points to be an official nt score. That is something I, and many others didn't know. AK and wide bear are right, the velvet stays on so it couldn't be a record anyways. I was hoping to keep it off the Internet until it was official to stop 15 pages of bs like this . Unfortunately when the wife put it on her face book the damage was done. The facts are its a big *censored*, and some of you should not try and score off of a pictures.
Congrats Ryan,
Can't wait to see it.
Neil
Post by: boneaddict on November 03, 2012, 07:30:37 AM
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unless you chose non-typical. It's up to the owner to chose typical or non-typical.What Radsav is wisely saying is that it doesn't make NT as it doesn't have enough extra. I've never been a velvet fan but understand precisely why he is keeping the velvet. I think thats great.
Post by: jjhunter on November 03, 2012, 07:41:36 AM
I don't think that anybody said that it was not a tremendous buck, the pictures are definitely deceiving. My buddy killed a 197" typical in CO a few years ago and I remember looking at the picture and thinking "you're on crack". It's a good thing that I didn't comment because when I held it in my hands, it was the real deal!
It's the bucks that are really solid everywhere that sneak up on you. We are always looking for a wide buck or a buck with a giant front end...a buck with a giant back end. This buck appears to be one of those bucks that is super solid in every category - its evident on the score sheet!
Congrats to the hunter. It would be a stud buck at 180" or 210"! And I can't wait for the story in Eastmans!
Post by: boneaddict on November 03, 2012, 07:46:18 AM
Post by: bobcat on November 03, 2012, 08:52:49 AM
I don't get why some are saying this thread is a bunch of "BS". :dunno:
Post by: bearpaw on November 03, 2012, 09:27:32 AM
I think this topic shows exactly why many hunters do not post their photos on this forum. From the beginning I suspected this buck would score better than most thought but I didn't want to get into the fray.
I know Larry Carey and have had him score trophies for my hunters in the past. He has been scoring trophies for decades and is very good and extremely experienced at scoring, there is no doubt in my mind that he is correct with his score.
Post by: bobcat on November 03, 2012, 09:34:57 AM
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I think this topic shows exactly why many hunters do not post their photos on this forum.
Really? Just because people are discussing what they THINK it might score? As others have said, it can be very difficult to judge a buck just from a picture. If a hunter gets upset just because someone on the Internet underestimated his buck, well then I'd say that guy has issues. Who cares if someone guesses a lower score on a buck than what it actually is?
Post by: cougarbart on November 03, 2012, 09:35:19 AM
Post by: Curly on November 03, 2012, 09:41:59 AM
QuoteI think this topic shows exactly why many hunters do not post their photos on this forum.
Really? Just because people are discussing what they THINK it might score? As others have said, it can be very difficult to judge a buck just from a picture. If a hunter gets upset just because someone on the Internet underestimated his buck, well then I'd say that guy has issues. Who cares if someone guesses a lower score on a buck than what it actually is?
What I found frustrating in this thread is someone stated that the taxi put a tape to it and came up with XXX", then a bunch of people were still not in belief of the taped amount. Why would you not believe a taxi that knows how to measure? And why would people go by a guess from a pic more so than someone that put a tape to them and actually held them in their hands? :dunno:
Post by: Kola16 on November 03, 2012, 09:44:21 AM
QuoteI think this topic shows exactly why many hunters do not post their photos on this forum.
Really? Just because people are discussing what they THINK it might score? As others have said, it can be very difficult to judge a buck just from a picture. If a hunter gets upset just because someone on the Internet underestimated his buck, well then I'd say that guy has issues. Who cares if someone guesses a lower score on a buck than what it actually is?
What I found frustrating in this thread is someone stated that the taxi put a tape to it and came up with XXX", then a bunch of people were still not in belief of the taped amount. Why would you not believe a taxi that knows how to measure? And why would people go by a guess from a pic more so than someone that put a tape to them and actually held them in their hands? :dunno:
:yeah: I think some don't like this thread because, even after an official scoring, they still did not want to give credit to this buck :dunno:
Post by: bobcat on November 03, 2012, 09:47:42 AM
I just don't see it as a big deal. So someone didn't believe it got scored correctly. So what. Maybe they need to see it in person to realize how big it really is.
Whatever the reason, it shouldn't keep people from posting their pictures and stories on this forum.
Post by: Curly on November 03, 2012, 10:11:45 AM
Pictures can be deceiving.
I just don't see it as a big deal. So someone didn't believe it got scored correctly. So what. Maybe they need to see it in person to realize how big it really is.
Whatever the reason, it shouldn't keep people from posting their pictures and stories on this forum.
Well, some people don't like to get into arguments or disagreements, so in their case it would be better to avoid the drama.
Post by: mikelonsford on November 03, 2012, 10:40:19 AM
Mike
Post by: Romulus on November 03, 2012, 06:20:59 PM
Post by: UptheCreek on November 03, 2012, 06:22:57 PM
Post by: boneaddict on November 03, 2012, 06:40:46 PM
believing what a taxidermist says.....well we should talk about some of the stories that show up on here due to what a taxidermist told their client. Taxidermy is an art that involves preserving a trophy, from fish to quail to monster bulls. It has nothing to do with measuring antlers. Yes, some take an interest and are quite good at it. Some, well, No.
Post by: Mongo on November 04, 2012, 08:06:20 PM
Bobcat the only issue I have with this is questioning the ability of my taxidermist, and even that was kinda minor. I think your misunderstanding how I use the term bs. When I'm at the bar talking to my body's I'm bsing, when my wife asks me were I'm going I tell her that I'm bsing with the neighbor. In my mind every topic on here is bs, so if that means I have issues I apologize. I found almost all of the comments positive and the ones that weren't, so what. If you knew me you would know I have very thick skin and it take a hell of a lot more then this to get under it. I did get a kick out of some being 30in off on the main frame but pics weren't the best and its tough to see the 40+ of mass. In my mind your all free to say what ever you want and can't wait to see the whitetail pics that are sure to come. Thanks again everybody.
Ryan
Post by: jackelope on November 04, 2012, 08:23:53 PM
Post by: M_ray on November 04, 2012, 10:54:39 PM
Lets all just keep in mind there are many that DO in fact embellish a score so for us that were in doubt it is not all that far fetched to question such claims. Congrats again on a great trophy no matter what the score and I hope I get to see it for myself at the Puyallup show!!! :tup:
Post by: gadwall on November 06, 2012, 07:31:45 PM
Give the respect where its due! That is a damn fine buck whether it is 170" or 200". Bow or rifle, who gives a *censored*, that is a awesome deer. Congrats to the hunter! What ever happened to going hunting and just having a great time whether you shoot something or not. It has become all about scores and that really sucks.
Thanks for that Guts. Maybe some of the guys on this thread that are upset will remember why we all started hunting in the first place.
Post by: Roperfive88 on November 07, 2012, 03:37:04 PM
Post by: sirmissalot on November 07, 2012, 03:48:59 PM
I think its funny how everyone thinks thier an expert. I look at the score sheet and do not see any measurements I would disagree with. That buck has deep forks and that goes along way. People get caught up in how wide a deer when it has verry little importance just a few inches. Add that 10 in dropper and it makes up for the ten inches the 20 in spread is missing. I have a friend that shot a 162" buck that has a 13 in inside spread but its has deep back forks and and long G4"s. I like the one picture that tried to compare a wide thin horned buck with weak forks compared the buck in question. You can see that there are alot more inches on the buck in this thread. I thinks if the people that discounted this buck put their hands on it they would think a little differently. Thats a Dandy buck :twocents:
Thats exactly what I've been thinking. People just look at a buck, squint one eye and throw out a number based on rack size and width, instead of adding up actual inches of horn. I'm no expert either but looking at the score sheet (the way any dispute over a score should go) I can see it. Yeah the pictures are deceiving, but I can see its there.
Post by: boneaddict on November 07, 2012, 08:23:58 PM
I think its funny how everyone thinks thier an expert. I look at the score sheet and do not see any measurements I would disagree with. That buck has deep forks and that goes along way. People get caught up in how wide a deer when it has verry little importance just a few inches. Add that 10 in dropper and it makes up for the ten inches the 20 in spread is missing. I have a friend that shot a 162" buck that has a 13 in inside spread but its has deep back forks and and long G4"s. I like the one picture that tried to compare a wide thin horned buck with weak forks compared the buck in question. You can see that there are alot more inches on the buck in this thread. I thinks if the people that discounted this buck put their hands on it they would think a little differently. Thats a Dandy buck :twocents:
Its harder than you think, and you are right, it would be easier if we could all put our hands on it, however here are some things to think about, The dropper is actually 7 inches (OK 7 and change) and you called it 10. Thats 3 inches on one point. THose kind of conclusions can also blow a score out of proportion. It is also difficult to adjust for velvet. Many of these issues factor into a discussion.
Post by: AOD on November 09, 2012, 05:00:05 PM
Post by: widebear on November 10, 2012, 07:08:17 AM
I know one thing...Larry Carey is not a math major :)
The decimal numbers are eights not tenths. Notice there isn't any .8 or .9's on the sheet. The computer spits out the final numbers. Larry just measures and fills in the blanks.
Post by: widebear on November 13, 2012, 01:22:23 PM