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Title: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: Mudman on September 28, 2012, 03:04:56 PM: Okay heres the deal, I am not real impressed with the setup I have been using after seeing others arrow flight. Im shooting extreme z7 at 70lbs and 28inch draw. My arrow choice has been standard fletch beman ics hunter 340. Muzzy or thunderhead 100grain heads. QAD rest. Arrows weigh 420ish at current length. Arrow speed is around 280fps. I shoot well target but not so well with broadheads and not very tight past 50yards. I just think I can do better. I have been thinking shuttle 100grain and blazer vanes? I have noticed if I shoot 85g thunderheads I get much better groups at 40yards plus. I practice out to 80y hoping not to shoot past 60 ever. Any thoughts would be great, Radsav chime in!!
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: Instinct on September 28, 2012, 04:20:51 PM: Ive been useing easton nanos n fused 340s 100gr muzzy 3 blade w/ 4 fletch blazers out of my destroyer 350 at 65lbs. Does pretty good for me
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: Crunchy on September 28, 2012, 04:22:26 PM: I don't think the arrows will make a big difference since the ones you have are correctly spined for you draw weight. I would recommend the Shuttle Ts or Slick Tricks for broadheads. The vanes wont make much of a difference either. I shoot the Fusion vanes 3inch which fly nicely.
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on September 28, 2012, 04:38:05 PM: arrow choice is alright ...just need to screw in a 100 gr Wasp Boss and problem solved ... :twocents: Again just one out of thousand opinions on here ...I love being alone :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle: wait till November and I show ya why I hunt alone and all by myself ...hehehe
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: Buckmark on September 28, 2012, 04:41:37 PM: Quote from: BOWHUNTER45 on September 28, 2012, 04:38:05 PM
arrow choice is alright ...just need to screw in a 100 gr Wasp Boss and problem solved ... :twocents: Again just one out of thousand opinions on here ...I love being alone :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle: wait till November and I show ya why I hunt alone and all by myself ...hehehe
Cant believe it took this long for you to chime in with the wasps... :chuckle:
If you are alone are you not then all by yourself? :dunno:
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: Button Nubbs on September 28, 2012, 04:56:51 PM: Shuttle-t's put a hurtin on em. I'm lookin for new arrows also since they discontinued my favorites last year.
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: turkeyfeather on September 28, 2012, 05:12:31 PM: For me it's Easton nano n-fused with Blazer canes and a 100 grain Steel Force Sabertooth broadheads. The deer I shot a week and a half ago didn't go 20 yr :twocents:ds. I could literally see the blood pouring out as she was running away. Made a huge hole. :twocents:
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: RadSav on September 28, 2012, 05:34:01 PM: Quote from: Button Nubbs on September 28, 2012, 04:56:51 PM
Shuttle-t's put a hurtin on em. I'm lookin for new arrows also since they discontinued my favorites last year.

I'd rather put a killin' on them than a hurtin' :dunno: But maybe that's just me :chuckle:

Going to take me a while to write down what I'm thinking. Best I wait until after fixing some vittles. Later tonight I promise.
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: TheHunt on September 28, 2012, 05:44:08 PM: Carbon arrow is what I choose.

Shuttle-T lock is a great broadhead. The tip is designed to push the hide in to a point where th end start to cut. What happends is similar to cuping you hand. As the ends of the broadhead starts to cut it laces the wound channel more then what the blade has. I have killed four bulls with those broadheads and they all died pretty quickly with easy to follow blood trails.
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: D-Rock425 on September 28, 2012, 05:46:12 PM: Quote from: BOWHUNTER45 on September 28, 2012, 04:38:05 PM
arrow choice is alright ...just need to screw in a 100 gr Wasp Boss and problem solved ... :twocents: Again just one out of thousand opinions on here ...I love being alone :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle: wait till November and I show ya why I hunt alone and all by myself ...hehehe
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Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on September 28, 2012, 06:11:45 PM: I tried to ignore this but I could not stand it no longer :sry: :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: I am laughing right now So thats a good thing :tup: :chuckle:
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on September 28, 2012, 06:13:20 PM: I am still waiting for Radsav to show is new invention ... :dunno: ;)
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: Russ McDonald on September 28, 2012, 06:44:04 PM: I have carbon express with muzzy mx3's...put a decent whole in a doe I shot here in MN. It was a gut shot but still died. I wish Washington would go to mechanical some day. Saw what Grim Reapers did hands on here. Huge hole put mine to shame. Here is the link with pictures of what the mechanicals did and one of mine. http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,102231.15.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,102231.15.html)
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on September 28, 2012, 06:55:08 PM: If anyone watched the sportsmens channel last weekend you would of seen what happened with those mechanicals ,,,,2 shows in a row where the deer were lost ... :bash: :bash: :bash: One was hit in the shoulder and left a huge hole but never recovered and the second was hit high above the lungs and again a huge hole and not recovered :dunno: and both were shot from a tree stand ...and the best part for me was they showed trailcam pictures of the bucks after the season was over and went on to say the deer lived ...O.K but the holes just heeled up and no marks of being hit were found ...YEAH RIGHT :yike: :o
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: blacktailcody on September 28, 2012, 07:20:49 PM: Slick trick magnums baby.
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: Russ McDonald on September 28, 2012, 07:53:38 PM: Quote from: BOWHUNTER45 on September 28, 2012, 06:55:08 PM
If anyone watched the sportsmens channel last weekend you would of seen what happened with those mechanicals ,,,,2 shows in a row where the deer were lost ... :bash: :bash: :bash: One was hit in the shoulder and left a huge hole but never recovered and the second was hit high above the lungs and again a huge hole and not recovered :dunno: and both were shot from a tree stand ...and the best part for me was they showed trailcam pictures of the bucks after the season was over and went on to say the deer lived ...O.K but the holes just heeled up and no marks of being hit were found ...YEAH RIGHT :yike: :o
I would think same thing can happen with and fixed blade broadhead....it is called shot placement.....look at my thread with the pictures that buck was shot in the shoulder. I will say though that not all broadheads are created equal either.
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: RadSav on September 28, 2012, 07:56:10 PM: Sort of like asking NASCAR fans what car to drive. Never leads to much, but I'll try to help.

85 grain TH's should completely screw up your FOC and yet you say they flew better beyond 40 yards. So what that is telling you is that the planing surface of the blades is having a larger impact on your grouping than FOC. So I would not be asking myself what broadhead I should change to. I would be asking myself, "Why?" All has to do with how your arrow is flying, how it is tuned, where your positive and negative energies are and how surface area and aerodynamics are effected by those things.

I would venture to say you are shooting straight fletched vanes or damn near it. Perhaps very flexible vanes that are chattering at those speeds. Might be a certain speed that the vanes do not like. That is one of the things that makes the Blazer, Max Hunter and other stiff short vanes so good. You will probably be served better by changing the fletching and increasing your helical/offset than you would be changing broadheads. If your Thunderhead 100's do not fly well going to a smaller profile head is just putting a bandaide on a compound fracture. May stop the bleeding, but the bone is still broken.

I am quite anal about my arrows and my tuning. I go so far as to make my own brass inserts so I can hit the exact FOC that has proven best for me. I only use one single fletching jig so every arrow is fletched exactly the same as the rest. Yes it is overkill, but it makes my brain happy. And yet with all that my favorite broadhead profile is near identical to that of the Thunderhead 100. I can make and/or use whatever broadhead I want and yet that is the profile I prefer for myself. No change in my groups between broadheads and field points 30, 50 or 100 yards.

I've been making quite a few different heads. Some short and wide, some long and skinny and some similar to the WASP Bullet. Not a single one of them shoot any different out of my equipment than the other at any range. It's all in the tuning, FOC, spine match and force of gyroscopic precession.

I would definately focus on my arrow and tuning first. Then decide if you wanted to change broadhead profile once the bones have been reset and healed.
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: Mudman on September 28, 2012, 08:09:06 PM: Ok. I will switch to ics with blazers. Radsav you are right i am shooting standard 4 inch vanes. The thunderheads do fly better than the muzzy. I will do this first before monkey with heads. What is a realistic grouping to be expected at 60yards with broadheads for an average shooter? I am thinking 6inches.
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on September 28, 2012, 08:14:49 PM: I am just being me :chuckle: But its a proven fact a fixed blade will have a better chance of penetrating a shoulder than a mechanical . that's all I am saying :chuckle:
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: RadSav on September 28, 2012, 08:38:24 PM: Quote from: Mudman on September 28, 2012, 08:09:06 PM
Ok. I will switch to ics with blazers. Radsav you are right i am shooting standard 4 inch vanes. The thunderheads do fly better than the muzzy. I will do this first before monkey with heads. What is a realistic grouping to be expected at 60yards with broadheads for an average shooter? I am thinking 6inches.

Make sure they are helical or heavily offset. Maybe even 4 fletched. I use Blazers four fletched and Max Hunter's three fletched.

I think the average guy that has been shooting for a while with good form and tuned equipment should try to accomplish groupings of 1" per ten yards regularly. You will have your good days and your bad, but that is realistic for consistancy. You should never settle for your broadhead groups to be any larger than your field point groups. No reason they should be different if you are tuned properly and shooting without a lot of wind and rain.
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: Mudman on September 28, 2012, 08:53:45 PM: :tup:Thanks for info. 1 inch per ten yards, got that with field tips.
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: coachcw on September 28, 2012, 08:58:00 PM: maxima hunter 350s four fletch rh helical blazers ans 100 slick tricks . you will be hitting your field points . I cross x the fletchs to the string and line the blade up with the string . although I like the wieght forward maxima hunters there are many good arrow choices . get away from those store baught three fltech arrows and you will be happy.
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: Mudman on September 28, 2012, 09:03:05 PM: :tup:
Quote from: coachcw on September 28, 2012, 08:58:00 PM
maxima hunter 350s four fletch rh helical blazers ans 100 slick tricks . you will be hitting your field points . I cross x the fletchs to the string and line the blade up with the string . although I like the wieght forward maxima hunters there are many good arrow choices . get away from those store baught three fltech arrows and you will be happy.
I have been reading up on those arrows. Thanks.
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: Mudman on September 29, 2012, 02:26:35 PM: Okay carbon ex maxima hunter 350 blazers at a 29halfinch arrow with shuttle 125s. Shot a little to 40yards and so far very pleased! Question is what is proper technique for aligning broadhead with fletching? Inline or opposite or whatever flys best?
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: Button Nubbs on September 29, 2012, 02:30:36 PM: Dosent matter. :twocents:
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: RadSav on September 29, 2012, 04:05:51 PM: Quote from: Button Nubbs on September 29, 2012, 02:30:36 PM
Dosent matter. :twocents:

:yeah:

If your arrows are tuned there is no difference. If you arrows are flying poorly it does make them fly more consistently poor. That's all. No aerodynamic benefit.

When shooting "point of aim" a consistant alignment does give you a more consistant visual reference. But, that can be any reference to fletching you prefer.

My Bowtech's shoot best when the arrow is close to the riser. On those bows I do align the broadheads to better clear the riser since I draw the broadhead over my hand. That is the only time I worry about it when shooting a bowsight.
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: Axle on September 29, 2012, 06:52:15 PM: Quote
arrow choice is alright ...just need to screw in a 100 gr Wasp Boss and problem solved ... Again just one out of thousand opinions on here ...I love being alone

You are not alone. I use Wasp too. Been using them for years. :hello:
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on September 29, 2012, 06:58:22 PM: Quote from: Axle on September 29, 2012, 06:52:15 PM
Quote
arrow choice is alright ...just need to screw in a 100 gr Wasp Boss and problem solved ... Again just one out of thousand opinions on here ...I love being alone

You are not alone. I use Wasp too. Been using them for years. :hello:
holy sheet ...you are kidding right :dunno: :o :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: Axle on September 29, 2012, 07:00:58 PM: Quote
holy sheet ...you are kidding right

When I couldn't get the highly advertised brands to fly straight :bash:, someone said 'try the wasp'. I did and never looked back.
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on September 29, 2012, 07:02:54 PM: Thats what I am saying ...Now they have made the Boss and the Bullet and thats sweeter yet .. :tup:
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: RadSav on September 29, 2012, 07:09:10 PM: OH NO :yike: :yike: :yike:

Bowhunter45 has a friend. What is the world coming to :chuckle:
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on September 29, 2012, 07:10:11 PM: HELL YEAH ...Just mixed me a stiff one and I may have 2 ... :yeah: :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: BULLBLASTER on September 29, 2012, 07:41:21 PM: Quote from: RadSav on September 29, 2012, 07:09:10 PM
OH NO :yike: :yike: :yike:

Bowhunter45 has a friend. What is the world coming to :chuckle:

i think bh45 has a second user name... :chuckle: or else they are taking over the world! watch out!!! :tung:
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: RadSav on September 29, 2012, 07:53:42 PM: Quote from: BULLBLASTER on September 29, 2012, 07:41:21 PM
Quote from: RadSav on September 29, 2012, 07:09:10 PM
OH NO :yike: :yike: :yike:

Bowhunter45 has a friend. What is the world coming to :chuckle:

i think bh45 has a second user name... :chuckle: or else they are taking over the world! watch out!!! :tung:
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: windygorge on September 29, 2012, 08:14:10 PM: you guys crack me up.. :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: RadSav on September 29, 2012, 08:38:29 PM: Quote from: BOWHUNTER45 on September 29, 2012, 07:10:11 PM
HELL YEAH ...Just mixed me a stiff one and I may have 2 ... :yeah: :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

Brain finds himself drinking alone at home after being unhappy with the party venue :chuckle:
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: bloodhound on September 29, 2012, 10:40:32 PM: my beaman hunter 340's with blazer and helicals, tipped with 100g g5 strikers did my elk in this year with a chest shot right through the breast plate :tup:. blades are all bent and dull as heck, one blade broke at the back but stayed fully intact. also got enough penetration to to make the arrow disappear. when we gutted him the arrow was about an inch shy of the stomach. :tup:
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: RadSav on September 29, 2012, 10:44:27 PM: Aren't you suppose to be moose hunting Bloodhound?
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: windygorge on September 30, 2012, 05:01:43 AM: oh yea......beman hunters.. :tup:
my beman hunters missed an elk and two whitetails this year. stupid arrows.. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: Mudman on September 30, 2012, 08:49:06 AM: Ya my beman hunters long fletch with muzzy didnt discriminate either. My arrows missed a 7pt bull a 300lb bear 1 blacktail, 1 muley and 1 whitetail. All over the last two years and all clean miss under belly! WTF? I always miss low? Rangfinder now but I still missed this year. This is why im changing gear and practicing more at distance. Up down hills are alot of the issue as well. Lucky shot 3d course here I come! :chuckle:
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: Button Nubbs on September 30, 2012, 08:54:24 AM: Dropping your bow arm to see your shot?
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: Mudman on September 30, 2012, 08:56:47 AM: Quote from: Button Nubbs on September 30, 2012, 08:54:24 AM
Dropping your bow arm to see your shot?
Possibly? I recently had lasik eye surgery and it changed the dominant eye thing. I dont have dominant eye now they are equal and Im still adjusting.
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: bloodhound on September 30, 2012, 09:21:26 AM: Quote from: RadSav on September 29, 2012, 10:44:27 PM
Aren't you suppose to be moose hunting Bloodhound?

we are heading out today in a few hours! :tup:
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on September 30, 2012, 09:32:55 AM: Quote from: RadSav on September 29, 2012, 07:53:42 PM
Quote from: BULLBLASTER on September 29, 2012, 07:41:21 PM
Quote from: RadSav on September 29, 2012, 07:09:10 PM
OH NO :yike: :yike: :yike:

Bowhunter45 has a friend. What is the world coming to :chuckle:

i think bh45 has a second user name... :chuckle: or else they are taking over the world! watch out!!! :tung:
THATS FUNNY :chuckle:
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: 300rum on September 30, 2012, 09:33:49 AM: You need to see if you are blinking when you shoot. Try putting a camera on a tri-pod in front of you or have someone watch. What you want to be able to do is "call your shot", you need to know where the pin was at the exact time the string slipped out of your release. In order to do this you must have your eyes open and not blink. In time you will be able to call the shot and know exactly where your pin was at the exact moment you released your string, you won't need to see anything else, such as the arrow in flight. Calling your shot has to do with any shooting activity and is the pinnicale of follow-through, although it actually happens before follow-through. Most people blink when they shoot, which is natural, and they don't really have a clue what happened before it happens. Once you can keep your eyes open and are able to watch your follow-through you will see (exactly) what is happening and you will be able to correct it.

Quote from: Mudman on September 30, 2012, 08:56:47 AM
Quote from: Button Nubbs on September 30, 2012, 08:54:24 AM
Dropping your bow arm to see your shot?
Possibly? I recently had lasik eye surgery and it changed the dominant eye thing. I dont have dominant eye now they are equal and Im still adjusting.
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on September 30, 2012, 09:34:17 AM: Quote from: BULLBLASTER on September 29, 2012, 07:41:21 PM
Quote from: RadSav on September 29, 2012, 07:09:10 PM
OH NO :yike: :yike: :yike:

Bowhunter45 has a friend. What is the world coming to :chuckle:

i think bh45 has a second user name... :chuckle: or else they are taking over the world! watch out!!! :tung:
Never forget ( The law Man ) :drool: :yike:
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on September 30, 2012, 09:36:25 AM: Quote from: windygorge on September 30, 2012, 05:01:43 AM
oh yea......beman hunters.. :tup:
my beman hunters missed an elk and two whitetails this year. stupid arrows.. :rolleyes:
had to be the broadheads :chuckle:
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: muleyslayer#1 on September 30, 2012, 09:57:57 AM: Carbon Express Mayhems and Shuttle Ts. Shot my deer the 22nd, ran 25 and fell over :tup: :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: bwhntr2819 on September 30, 2012, 10:13:26 AM: I've been using the Beman MFX micro diameter arrows with hidden inserts. Maybe I drank the kool aid but I think this really helps with broad head alignment. My G5 Montecs hit right on with my field tips. And talk about devastating penetration.
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: Mudman on September 30, 2012, 10:41:25 AM: Ya good tips. I dont know but im thinking about all the advice, thanx. Uh I dont have problem target shooting, only on animals. I can and do follow arrow thru shot and see it drop in front of animal and hit below belly. Im wondering if i punch the trigger a bit, I also changed to equalizer bone collector hook release last year. I know I am always nervouse the animal is going to move and I will lose shot ever since an elk stepped as I shot and I hit too far back? Can trigger punch cause a low shot? I shoot targets well and only had the buck fever one time shooting at bear.
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: MIKEXRAY on September 30, 2012, 10:54:34 AM: I've had my Z7 for a couple of years. I have the Trophy Taker drop away, Beman ICS hunter elites with Blazers & G5 Stryker broad heads 100 gr. I couldn't be happier with broad head flight or accuracy . They do whistle as they go down range, so far hasn't been a problem with animals.
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: hughjorgan on September 30, 2012, 11:36:46 AM: Quote from: Mudman on September 30, 2012, 10:41:25 AM
Ya good tips. I dont know but im thinking about all the advice, thanx. Uh I dont have problem target shooting, only on animals. I can and do follow arrow thru shot and see it drop in front of animal and hit below belly. Im wondering if i punch the trigger a bit, I also changed to equalizer bone collector hook release last year. I know I am always nervouse the animal is going to move and I will lose shot ever since an elk stepped as I shot and I hit too far back? Can trigger punch cause a low shot? I shoot targets well and only had the buck fever one time shooting at bear.

You are probably dropping your bow arm to see your arrow...
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: Mudman on September 30, 2012, 02:11:13 PM: Quote from: hughjorgan on September 30, 2012, 11:36:46 AM
Quote from: Mudman on September 30, 2012, 10:41:25 AM
Ya good tips. I dont know but im thinking about all the advice, thanx. Uh I dont have problem target shooting, only on animals. I can and do follow arrow thru shot and see it drop in front of animal and hit below belly. Im wondering if i punch the trigger a bit, I also changed to equalizer bone collector hook release last year. I know I am always nervouse the animal is going to move and I will lose shot ever since an elk stepped as I shot and I hit too far back? Can trigger punch cause a low shot? I shoot targets well and only had the buck fever one time shooting at bear.
I must say I am liking these 350maximas with 125g tips. My arrow weight is 430 and foc is way better and flight is great at 60-70yard shots. 40yard groups seem improved about 1 inch at 4inch grouping now!

You are probably dropping your bow arm to see your arrow...
You know I think your right!!! :tup: Never thought of that. I really think I am because i worry about animal moving and seeing my arrow to verify a good shot. Thanks guys. I need to concentrate on proper follow thru when hunting and not worry about seeing arrow so much. I think this eye surgery presented more issues than I thought as it was a dramatic change. 90second laser as my eyes were bad. The recovery with eyes constantly changing /healing lead to me developing bad habit.
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: RadSav on September 30, 2012, 02:38:24 PM: Quote from: muleyslayer#1 on September 30, 2012, 09:57:57 AM
Carbon Express Mayhems and Shuttle Ts. Shot my deer the 22nd, ran 25 and fell over :tup: :IBCOOL:

Might want to clarify that :dunno: Shooting Shuttle-T's one might think you shot it on the 22nd and it ran until the 25th before falling over :chuckle:
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: Button Nubbs on September 30, 2012, 04:44:25 PM: That's right, it only hurts em right? :chuckle:
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: Mudman on September 30, 2012, 06:05:34 PM: I saw that deer in the emergency room waiting for stitches and birth control!!! He was behind a bunch of illegal immigrants! That was on the 24th, must have denied him for being american or something? :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: 300rum on September 30, 2012, 06:11:39 PM: That's why you need to learn to call your shot....

Quote from: hughjorgan on September 30, 2012, 11:36:46 AM
Quote from: Mudman on September 30, 2012, 10:41:25 AM
Ya good tips. I dont know but im thinking about all the advice, thanx. Uh I dont have problem target shooting, only on animals. I can and do follow arrow thru shot and see it drop in front of animal and hit below belly. Im wondering if i punch the trigger a bit, I also changed to equalizer bone collector hook release last year. I know I am always nervouse the animal is going to move and I will lose shot ever since an elk stepped as I shot and I hit too far back? Can trigger punch cause a low shot? I shoot targets well and only had the buck fever one time shooting at bear.

You are probably dropping your bow arm to see your arrow...
Title: Re: What arrow and broadhead should I switch too?
Post by: Mudman on September 30, 2012, 06:15:01 PM: I will get buddy to watch me shoot. I cant set a camera up while hunting. Will check it out, thanx.