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Title: Muzzleloader Question
Post by: BB on September 29, 2012, 06:02:39 PM
I read on a past thread that you can use a modern inline muzzleloader w/ 209 primer during modern gun season, just not during muzzleloader season....?  If that is true can you use a modern inline muzzleloader to hunter fall bear?  the regs are confusing... sorry..
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Question
Post by: JimmyHoffa on September 29, 2012, 06:12:08 PM
i think so.  as long as you don't have a muzzy deer/elk tag with your bear tag during a muzzy deer/elk season in a muzzy GMU I wouldn't think there would be any issues.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Question
Post by: muzbuster on October 01, 2012, 06:38:24 AM
i think so.  as long as you don't have a muzzy deer/elk tag with your bear tag during a muzzy deer/elk season in a muzzy GMU I wouldn't think there would be any issues.
:yeah:
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Question
Post by: BB on October 01, 2012, 09:18:01 PM
Thanks guys.
Title: Muzzleloader Question
Post by: sirmissalot on October 11, 2012, 06:58:28 AM
I was just going to ask this question, since the op seems to have been answered I will ask another that is similar. If i want to hunt during modern with a muzzleloader, in a firearm restricted area, I can use a scope and 209 primer right? Also the breech wouldn't have to be exposed to the elements I would suspect?

I live in a firearm restricted area and there is some decent hunting fairly close to home. To be able to use a good muzzleloader would really up my odds.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Question
Post by: boneaddict on October 11, 2012, 07:26:33 AM
Strickly modern, you'd be fine.    The fact its a restricted zone........now that makes it interesting.   Bobcat would probably be a good source to answer this question.  He knows the rules pretty well and is pretty well versed at blackpowder.   
Title: Muzzleloader Question
Post by: sirmissalot on October 11, 2012, 01:37:39 PM
Ok I'll just PM him, thanks bone.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Question
Post by: muzbuster on October 11, 2012, 01:43:20 PM
i think so.  as long as you don't have a muzzy deer/elk tag with your bear tag during a muzzy deer/elk season in a muzzy GMU I wouldn't think there would be any issues.
  :yeah::tup:
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Question
Post by: Russ McDonald on October 11, 2012, 01:44:48 PM
Strickly modern, you'd be fine.    The fact its a restricted zone........now that makes it interesting.   Bobcat would probably be a good source to answer this question.  He knows the rules pretty well and is pretty well versed at blackpowder.
If I read the  regs correctly.  I believe you could use that Muzzy with the 209 in a restricted zone but don't quote me on it.  I also think the regs are confusing at times.  :bash: :bash:
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Question
Post by: robodad on October 11, 2012, 02:38:51 PM
You can use scoped ML with 209 primer only in firearm restricted areas and only during modern season !! Same thing goes for crossbows !!
Title: Muzzleloader Question
Post by: sirmissalot on October 11, 2012, 08:25:30 PM
Heck yeah. Thanks guys
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Question
Post by: hunterrcc on October 13, 2012, 09:00:48 AM
You can use scoped ML with 209 primer only in firearm restricted areas and only during modern season !! Same thing goes for crossbows !!
I don't think crossbows are legal at all in our state for modern season even.  Just for disable hunters that have proper ok from the state to use crossbows that cant use regular bows!
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Question
Post by: lokidog on October 13, 2012, 10:30:27 AM
You can use scoped ML with 209 primer only in firearm restricted areas and only during modern season !! Same thing goes for crossbows !!
I don't think crossbows are legal at all in our state for modern season even.  Just for disable hunters that have proper ok from the state to use crossbows that cant use regular bows!

You are mistaken.  Crossbows are indeed legal in firearm restricted areas during modern rifle season.

Keep the questions going...  Can I put a camera on my bow during modern rifle season?   :chuckle:
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Question
Post by: Bob33 on October 13, 2012, 10:47:03 AM
It is illegal to hunt wildlife with a crossbow except in firearm restriction areas during modern firearm seasons. There is an exemption for disabled hunters with a valid permit.

Muzzleloading firearms used during a modern firearm season are not required to meet ignition, sight, or double barrel restrictions.

It is illegal to have any electrical equipment or electric device(s) attached to the bow or arrow while hunting.  Now if you can find a non-electric camera...
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Question
Post by: Russ McDonald on October 13, 2012, 12:39:18 PM
Here is one for electronics on your bow.  I have a Truglow 5 pin fiber optics sight out has a led light that shines on pins is that considered illegal?

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Title: Re: Muzzleloader Question
Post by: Bob33 on October 13, 2012, 12:42:37 PM
Here is one for electronics on your bow.  I have a Truglow 5 pin fiber optics sight out has a led light that shines on pins is that considered illegal?

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Any sight that uses electricity (and an LED requires electricity) is not legal.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Question
Post by: lokidog on October 13, 2012, 05:01:59 PM
Here is one for electronics on your bow.  I have a Truglow 5 pin fiber optics sight out has a led light that shines on pins is that considered illegal?

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Bob is correct, I think you can unscrew that led though.  My sight came with one as well, can't remember the brand though.

It does seem silly to allow the upgrade of a primitive weapon (putting a scope on a ML) during modern rifle season, that actually increases the effectiveness of said primitive weapon, but not allow a camera or lighted nocks during modern rifle when they have ZERO effect on effectiveness. 
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Question
Post by: hornhunter1987 on October 13, 2012, 09:48:38 PM
you can use pistols in a firearm restricted area right? so could i use a 22 pistol in a firearm restricted area? for rabbit hunting if your wondering.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Question
Post by: mtman on October 21, 2012, 01:36:54 PM
I don't think there would be a problem with you hunting fall bear with a scoped muzzleloader during muzzleloader season. As long as you didn't have a muzzy tag. That would be no different then somebody hunting bears with a modern during muzzy season its still legal.
Title: Re: Muzzleloader Question
Post by: lokidog on October 22, 2012, 06:55:50 PM
you can use pistols in a firearm restricted area right? so could i use a 22 pistol in a firearm restricted area? for rabbit hunting if your wondering.

Only if it is a revolver, pg 79.
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