Post by: 264winmag on October 08, 2012, 06:51:02 PM
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on October 08, 2012, 07:06:02 PM
Post by: 264winmag on October 08, 2012, 07:10:04 PM
Yeah the throat can get worn out in those after lots of shooting. Great caliber, I have one my granddad gave me and I don't ever want to retire it! Throw a new barrel on and keep on truckin!
Your right! I should do that. I figured the throat was bad. And with plenty of new options for ammo that wasn't around a few years ago unless you paid hefty price for someone to load some, it's worth re-barreling.
now i can get VLD's and Nosler for it which excites me!
Post by: Fishing Fool on October 08, 2012, 07:17:33 PM
Post by: Jim the Plumber on October 08, 2012, 08:28:30 PM
Money well spent.
Post by: 264winmag on October 09, 2012, 02:35:32 PM
..Quick question, sir, have you ever cleaned the barrel with a good copper cleaner? I've seen quite a number of "shot out" barrels brought back to life with a serious scrubbing with a good copper cleaner. Just my 2 cents, FF
NO, I have not done that. What cleaner do you rec?
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 09, 2012, 02:39:33 PM
Post by: h20hunter on October 09, 2012, 02:48:35 PM
Post by: Bob33 on October 09, 2012, 02:56:48 PM
What were the groups previously? If they were reasonable groups such as something under 3", and they suddenly went to 9" then I would eliminate the barrel as the culprit. A dirty barrel won't add 6" overnight to 100 yard groups.
It sounds to me as if the possibilities are (a) the shooter had a bad day and flinched, or (b) the scope has failed.
Post by: 264winmag on October 09, 2012, 03:05:07 PM
"It had never done that before".
What were the groups previously? If they were reasonable groups such as something under 3", and they suddenly went to 9" then I would eliminate the barrel as the culprit. A dirty barrel won't add 6" overnight to 100 yard groups.
It sounds to me as if the possibilities are (a) the shooter had a bad day and flinched, or (b) the scope has failed.
I don't blame you for thinking that. No flinching ever at range. I can hold crosshairs with in bull no movement what so ever!
I was also thinking the same thing, this can't happen over night.
Rifle has not been shot for 3 years. Prior to that it was grouping at 1.5" at 100yds with the crappy winchester superX ammo.
I also tried a different scope real quick with the same result.
I hear ya! makes no sense.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 09, 2012, 03:07:59 PM
Post by: 264winmag on October 09, 2012, 03:08:31 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on October 09, 2012, 03:09:27 PM
"It had never done that before".
What were the groups previously? If they were reasonable groups such as something under 3", and they suddenly went to 9" then I would eliminate the barrel as the culprit. A dirty barrel won't add 6" overnight to 100 yard groups.
It sounds to me as if the possibilities are (a) the shooter had a bad day and flinched, or (b) the scope has failed.
I agree. Factory ammo? Hand loads? Even a poor dirty barrel will shoot better as it is warmed up and will often still shoot well under 6". Don't give up on that Winny just yet. Clean with Sweets, but also examine your ammo. A shot out barrel will often still stabilize heavier/longer bullets. If you're shooting 90-110gn'rs, then bump up to some 135gn or so and see how she does. Let someone else shoot it too.
-Steve
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on October 09, 2012, 03:11:06 PM
No way am I flinching 6" high 3" left on shot, then 7"right and 6 " low on the next, then 5"high and 3" to right on next, then one in the BULL . LOL i'm stumped
If you're sure of that... Then think 'Scope' issue.
-Steve
Post by: 264winmag on October 09, 2012, 03:15:27 PM
I am positive of that! I never flinch! I can tell you where the crosshairs were when the gun goes off!No way am I flinching 6" high 3" left on shot, then 7"right and 6 " low on the next, then 5"high and 3" to right on next, then one in the BULL . LOL i'm stumped
If you're sure of that... Then think 'Scope' issue.
-Steve
I immediatly mounted a different scope thinking the same thing. same result.
OK this is embarassing but might be the problem! I was shooting 140gr win SupX that was probably 5 or more years old! hmmmm :rolleyes: 140 is the heaviest I can get for factory ammo
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on October 09, 2012, 03:49:35 PM
I think you're going to have difficulty finding factory ammo heavier than 140gn.
-Steve
Post by: Bob33 on October 09, 2012, 04:16:05 PM
Post by: ckr on October 09, 2012, 04:26:44 PM
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on October 09, 2012, 07:24:30 PM
Accuracy with mine, I found that lengthening the cartridge tightened it up significantly. Now under and 1" at 100. I reload mine so they are just short enough to fit in the mag.
Post by: grousetracker on October 09, 2012, 09:54:18 PM
Post by: 264winmag on October 09, 2012, 11:07:43 PM
Post by: TwoSixFourWins on October 11, 2012, 05:40:17 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 11, 2012, 05:49:25 PM
Post by: snowshoes22 on October 11, 2012, 05:56:18 PM
Post by: Three_Oh_Eight on October 14, 2012, 03:35:32 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 14, 2012, 03:59:53 PM
Post by: thinkingman on October 15, 2012, 08:57:29 AM
I had a problem like that a few years ago, shots all over the place. Found out it was the scope, sent it back because it had a lifetime warrenty, fixed the problem. :dunno:That was going to be my guess too.
If it wears a gold ring and suddenly loses accuracy, that's the problem.
Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 15, 2012, 12:16:04 PM
I had a problem like that a few years ago, shots all over the place. Found out it was the scope, sent it back because it had a lifetime warrenty, fixed the problem. :dunno:That was going to be my guess too.
If it wears a gold ring and suddenly loses accuracy, that's the problem.
My scope was a Burris, sent it in and had it back in 2 weeks. Of course those were the gold ol' days...
Post by: coachcw on October 16, 2012, 06:27:20 PM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on October 16, 2012, 07:04:20 PM