Post by: pianoman9701 on October 15, 2012, 11:33:17 AM
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Post by: hogsniper on October 15, 2012, 11:36:19 AM
Post by: Curly on October 15, 2012, 11:37:52 AM
Post by: bobcat on October 15, 2012, 11:39:57 AM
The buck in my avatar was taken with a Power Point bullet.
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 15, 2012, 11:41:59 AM
Winchester Power Points are really accurate in my 270, and they're in the same price range as the Core Lokts.
The buck in my avatar was taken with a Power Point bullet.
Always liked that picture BC. I will try both the Power Points and the AccuBonds. Thanks guys.
Post by: jrebel on October 15, 2012, 11:46:24 AM
Winchester Power Points are really accurate in my 270, and they're in the same price range as the Core Lokts.
The buck in my avatar was taken with a Power Point bullet.
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah:
I shoot the Winchester Super X power points and out of my .270 and they are accurate, cheap and leave devestating holes.
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 15, 2012, 11:48:11 AM
Winchester Power Points are really accurate in my 270, and they're in the same price range as the Core Lokts.
The buck in my avatar was taken with a Power Point bullet.
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah:
I shoot the Winchester Super X power points and out of my .270 and they are accurate, cheap and leave devestating holes.
Cool beans. Thanks.
Post by: Huntbear on October 15, 2012, 11:56:11 AM
Post by: Curly on October 15, 2012, 12:17:58 PM
edit: nevermind..........I do see it there now. Here is a link. :tup: Link (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/632108/federal-premium-vital-shok-ammunition-280-remington-140-grain-nosler-accubond-box-of-20)
edit #2: oops......Status:
Discontinued by Manufacturer
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 15, 2012, 12:21:47 PM
Post by: bobcat on October 15, 2012, 12:25:58 PM
Post by: Bob33 on October 15, 2012, 12:29:22 PM
I'm not getting consistent results at 300 yards and over with Core-Lokt.What does that mean? Please explain. What game. What bullet weight. What distance. What results?
Post by: coachcw on October 15, 2012, 12:39:24 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on October 15, 2012, 12:50:47 PM
Federal Power Shok, the blue box stuff, is in the same price range as Core Lokt. I find them to be superior for consistency. Major John Plaster who wrote "The Ultimate Sniper" does as well. He cited a blind test where Federal had the most consistent powder charge, grain weight, case sizing, etc than the other major brands.
I don't reload either, nor do I have any plans to start soon. But, I do save all my brass and have for years. Someday I may reload or do it with a friend, and it will be nice to have a good supply of once-fired brass on hand that is already formed to my gun.
Post by: Huntbear on October 15, 2012, 01:31:46 PM
These guys seem to have em in stock
http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=&products_id=498 (http://www.doubletapammo.com/php/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=&products_id=498)
Post by: DRDANTDC on October 15, 2012, 04:51:34 PM
I am wondering the exact same thing P-man. I get great accuracy but not happy with how the bullets have reacted on impact.Yep, I totally agree!
Post by: PlateauNDN on October 15, 2012, 05:05:37 PM
Winchester Power Points are really accurate in my 270, and they're in the same price range as the Core Lokts.
The buck in my avatar was taken with a Power Point bullet.
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah:
I shoot the Winchester Super X power points and out of my .270 and they are accurate, cheap and leave devestating holes.
just seen this and have to agree with the above. I use the same bullet in my .270 and have not been disappointed. Dropped my bull from last year with one well placed round. :tup:
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 15, 2012, 05:08:15 PM
I'm not getting consistent results at 300 yards and over with Core-Lokt.What does that mean? Please explain. What game. What bullet weight. What distance. What results?
This is on a range at 100, 200, and 300 yards. I zero in at 200 and am shooting within 2" of the bull/4" group. 100, I'm shooting 4" high /2" group. 300, It's 6" low, then 8" low, then 2" low. My rest is steady. my pull is smooth and steady. The ammo is .280 (7mm express suitable) 150 gr.
Post by: RG on October 15, 2012, 05:10:51 PM
Man, with a 7mm bullet, you need to be shooting Accubonds. That bullet just screams performance. I know it does in a .338 WM. Those Federal premiums are not cheap, but they will give you the performance you want. It has few equals..
I handload for my .280 but when I switched to Accubonds my groups shrunk in half. It's the most accurate bullet of anything I've tried in that caliber. I shoot the 140's.
Post by: gadwall on October 15, 2012, 05:26:47 PM
Post by: jackelope on October 15, 2012, 05:29:44 PM
Post by: Huntbear on October 15, 2012, 05:31:17 PM
I'm not getting consistent results at 300 yards and over with Core-Lokt.What does that mean? Please explain. What game. What bullet weight. What distance. What results?
This is on a range at 100, 200, and 300 yards. I zero in at 200 and am shooting within 2" of the bull/4" group. 100, I'm shooting 4" high /2" group. 300, It's 6" low, then 8" low, then 2" low. My rest is steady. my pull is smooth and steady. The ammo is .280 (7mm express suitable) 150 gr.
PM sent.
Post by: kentrek on October 15, 2012, 06:08:16 PM
There's no need for Bergers unless you plan on shooting at 1/4 mile and further on a regular basis.
i disagree..we'v had pretty good results with the burgers at close range
also i wouldn't expect to great of results with ANY factory ammo even as close as 400 yards
box to box consistency as well as round to round consistency has never been all that well according to my crono
i have heard good things bout HSM products tho
Post by: jrebel on October 15, 2012, 07:15:50 PM
Post by: Bob33 on October 15, 2012, 07:27:15 PM
Beware of anyone telling you "this ammo is accurate" or "this ammo is awful". That may be true for their rifles, but not necessarily for yours. You need to talk to your rifle and find out what it likes. What that means if you're not a reloader is that you must try several different ammunitions. Once you find what it likes, buy a couple boxes and you're good for 40 years. ;)
If nothing shoots well, then it's time to look at the equipment, and possibly even the shooter.
Factory ammo these days is better than ever. I've seen countless examples of guns shooting sub MOA groups with factory ammo consistently, from lot to lot.
Post by: Rick on October 15, 2012, 07:36:29 PM
Beware of anyone telling you "this ammo is accurate" or "this ammo is awful". That may be true for their rifles, but not necessarily for yours.
Thats a fact.
Most guys love Accubonds. I've tried them in 4 of my rifles and the only one they shot well out of is my '06. The rest shot patterns with Accubonds.
Post by: Kola16 on October 15, 2012, 07:49:25 PM
Beware of anyone telling you "this ammo is accurate" or "this ammo is awful". That may be true for their rifles, but not necessarily for yours.
Thats a fact.
:yeah: That is why home reloads are so effective. You can reload the bullet to fit your gun.
Post by: kentrek on October 15, 2012, 07:55:10 PM
Not to get to far off topic, but I have to dissagree with the above post about factory ammo. If you find a round that your gun likes it will continue to perform as well or better than most shooters can shoot. I have always bought this ammo for said gun and never had variance form box to box. If you are a bench rest shooter then obviously you will be reloading or using custom, but for most hunters...factory ammo is plenty good if your gun likes it. I can take my savage 270 with 150 grain Winchester Super X and kill animals to 400 yards all day long.
i was finding speed spikes of up to 150 fps (dont remember the exact number) but combine that with elevation an that could easily make ya miss an animal at 400
also this was with three diferent rifles and 2-3 different types of ammo each..i cant afford to test em all tho
Post by: RadSav on October 15, 2012, 08:13:45 PM
I'm not getting consistent results at 300 yards and over with Core-Lokt.
This is on a range at 100, 200, and 300 yards. I zero in at 200 and am shooting within 2" of the bull/4" group. 100, I'm shooting 4" high /2" group. 300, It's 6" low, then 8" low, then 2" low. My rest is steady. my pull is smooth and steady. The ammo is .280 (7mm express suitable) 150 gr.
Looks like your 300 yard grouping is consistant with your 100 and 200 yard grouping. Perhaps even better at 300 than the closer distances. If you are shooting 2" groups at 100 yards shouldn't you be expecting 8" groups at 300 :dunno:
As Bob33 has already mentioned it may have more to do with your gun not liking the load or your gun just simply shoots 2 MOA. I have an older 7mm Browning A-Bolt that will shoot sub MOA with most 140 grain factory loads. But that same gun shoots about 3 MOA with anything over 160 grains. In comparison I have a 270WSM Sako that loves just about every frick'n thing that goes in the tube.
Post by: RG on October 15, 2012, 11:08:31 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 16, 2012, 06:00:15 AM