Post by: go4itlab on October 18, 2012, 08:04:24 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on October 18, 2012, 08:35:47 PM
Post by: robescc on October 18, 2012, 09:19:23 PM
Post by: go4itlab on October 18, 2012, 09:19:45 PM
Post by: blacktailer on October 18, 2012, 09:29:57 PM
Post by: go4itlab on October 18, 2012, 09:36:28 PM
Post by: TeacherMan on October 18, 2012, 09:52:28 PM
Side note: all my traps I cable to a tree with 1/8 cable. I carry a swedger with me in the field and when I'm ready to retrieve my traps I actually have to cut the cable with my cable cutters. Most people can't cut 1/8" cable in the field. I have people every year try and just give up. Maybe a good idea to do this with your trail cameras.
Post by: pips4bucks on October 18, 2012, 09:54:44 PM
Post by: go4itlab on October 18, 2012, 10:52:45 PM
PM sent, If your not getting dirty in the cacliner, stop by sometime in the Crude Shelter and visit me.
Kurt
Post by: go4itlab on October 18, 2012, 11:04:02 PM
The thought has crossed my mind, and leave a note inside or hold a note up to the cam saying r sure you got every cam. If not I got your picture and the rig you drove in with, including your plate. Be excepting a visit from the sherif, you LOAD!!!!
Post by: TeacherMan on October 18, 2012, 11:08:34 PM
TeacherMan,
The thought has crossed my mind, and leave a note inside or hold a note up to the cam saying r sure you got every cam. If not I got your picture and the rig you drove in with, including your plate. Be excepting a visit from the sherif, you LOAD!!!!
that would be priceless to see their face :chuckle:
Post by: spike50 on October 18, 2012, 11:25:58 PM
Post by: shanevg on October 19, 2012, 08:29:22 AM
Again - I have no problem with people hunting public land, I just don't get why you need to steal someone's trail cam. Hopefuly I run into them in the spot soon so I can confront them.
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 19, 2012, 08:46:32 AM
Don't take me wrong, but if this was on public land, there is really nothing you can do to keep him out of your blind. I wouldn't hunt it but it wouldn't be wrong. As far as the camera, you shouldn't steal it but if it was on public land, what do you expect? Things are too crazy today for me to trust someone to not use or take the stuff I leave on public land. Sorry you lost out on the trail cam.
Well, I have to respectfully disagree with you. Ethics would dictate that you leave someone else's ground blind and camera alone. If you checked and no one was there, there's no reason not to hunt that area, but using or stealing someone else's stuff is unacceptable. As a matter of fact, if you are under the impression that someone has left something there and intends to come back for it, taking it is theft and punishable.
Post by: Bean Counter on October 19, 2012, 08:53:37 AM
Here in the southwest, where water is scarce, hunting over water holes is more popular than the PNW. A camera isn't bothering me and doesn't affect my hunt, but a ground blind might. Its first come, first served, on a daily basis, for hunting over watering holes. You can't put up a ground blind to dibs a water tank for an entire season or even just the next day. I've come upon watering holes where there's a ground blind that wasn't in the spot I wanted to set up, so I left it alone. If the owner shows up after I do, according to the Game and Fish Dept, they are supposed to leave the area and let me hunt it, regardless of whether their blind is there. I've also come to water holes with ground blinds set up which were exactly in the spot that I did want to hunt. I didn't steal them, but I did take them apart and toss it aside. I am curious as to whether ethics of other hunters say I should have left it alone(?).
I heard the gammie for a unit nearby will go out in plain clothes and sit at a watering hole early in the morning. Occasionally a hunter will show up and say "this is MY water hole." The gammie is reputed to ticket such hunters! I like that :tup:
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 19, 2012, 08:59:18 AM
Ethics? Camera: yes. Ground blind: maybe.
Here in the southwest, where water is scarce, hunting over water holes is more popular than the PNW. A camera isn't bothering me and doesn't affect my hunt, but a ground blind might. Its first come, first served, on a daily basis, for hunting over watering holes. You can't put up a ground blind to dibs a water tank for an entire season or even just the next day. I've come upon watering holes where there's a ground blind that wasn't in the spot I wanted to set up, so I left it alone. If the owner shows up after I do, according to the Game and Fish Dept, they are supposed to leave the area and let me hunt it, regardless of whether their blind is there. I've also come to water holes with ground blinds set up which were exactly in the spot that I did want to hunt. I didn't steal them, but I did take them apart and toss it aside. I am curious as to whether ethics of other hunters say I should have left it alone(?).
I heard the gammie for a unit nearby will go out in plain clothes and sit at a watering hole early in the morning. Occasionally a hunter will show up and say "this is MY water hole." The gammie is reputed to ticket such hunters! I like that :tup:
Yes BC, but as you noted, this aint AZ. There's plenty of land to hunt and no need to touch someone else's stuff. I could see carefully taking down the blind and even leaving a note about it being public land. But since the guy is already a known thief, I wouldn't expect any courtesy from him regarding the blind either. I'm actually quite surprised he didn't take that, too.
Post by: scoyoc5 on October 19, 2012, 09:15:24 AM
Post by: JohnVH on October 19, 2012, 09:21:44 AM
also, do you see it in any of the lynden truck galleries here?
http://www.facebook.com/#!/NWTruckPulls/photos_albums (http://www.facebook.com/#!/NWTruckPulls/photos_albums)
Post by: blacktailer on October 19, 2012, 09:33:20 AM
Post by: Chesapeake on October 19, 2012, 09:37:08 AM
Take in with you some ladder sticks and place your trail cameras in the trees cable locked and 10 foot high or so.
This seems to greatly reduce or eliminate theft. I think most folks dont ever see them cause they are up out of the normal line of sight. And while alot of folks carry multi-tools that could be used to cut cables, few carry a ladder. Dont place them over bait, its too obvious.
Would be nice if folks just left stuff alone though and you didnt have to lock stuff up.
Post by: scoyoc5 on October 19, 2012, 09:51:18 AM
Post by: Jonathan_S on October 19, 2012, 09:51:37 AM
A suggestion for trail cam users.
Take in with you some ladder sticks and place your trail cameras in the trees cable locked and 10 foot high or so.
This seems to greatly reduce or eliminate theft. I think most folks dont ever see them cause they are up out of the normal line of sight. And while alot of folks carry multi-tools that could be used to cut cables, few carry a ladder. Dont place them over bait, its too obvious.
Would be nice if folks just left stuff alone though and you didnt have to lock stuff up.
I've considered the same thing but never tried it. How well does this work, and how do you ensure you angle it properly everytime? It seems like it would eliminate line-of-sight quite a bit. I suppose I'd rather have less pics than a stolen cam though.
Post by: Fl0und3rz on October 19, 2012, 09:54:59 AM
Quote
Unattended blinds are available to the public on a “first-come first-serve” basis. These rules were designed to provide an equal opportunity for all users.
2012 Regs. p. 88.
That said, I probably would not use another's blind or stand, unless it was in an area that I wanted to place a blind or stand. Instead, I would probably just hunt another area, or put up my own blind or stand. But the requirements are clear. You cannot "call" an area by setting a blind or stand, then leaving it unattended.
Sorry about your trail camera, that behavior should be punishable by more than what currently applies.
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 19, 2012, 10:40:40 AM
QuoteUnattended blinds are available to the public on a “first-come first-serve” basis. These rules were designed to provide an equal opportunity for all users.
2012 Regs. p. 88.
That said, I probably would not use another's blind or stand, unless it was in an area that I wanted to place a blind or stand. Instead, I would probably just hunt another area, or put up my own blind or stand. But the requirements are clear. You cannot "call" an area by setting a blind or stand, then leaving it unattended.
Sorry about your trail camera, that behavior should be punishable by more than what currently applies.
This has to do with permanent blinds set up by the state or by organizations like DU. This isn't referring to privately owned blinds, although it could be interpreted that way.
Post by: Bean Counter on October 19, 2012, 01:57:58 PM
my grandpa told me when i was a young buck " IF IS NOT YOURS DON'T TOUCH IT" !! I have applied that saying my entire life. If i set a ground blind up and someones decide to take it down I'm calling BS.. samething with a treestand. be respectfull of others property period!whats next towing my truck that's parked at the same gate??? leave a note call a game wardon and move on theres plenty of land.
Granted that we're off base from the OP but..
There IS plenty of public land, but if I get to it first that morning, I'm using it if I want. Call BS all you want. I don't care who taught who what personal ethic. The law is on my side, at least in my state. Someone leaving a ground blind in advance doesn't mean squat. I don't believe in sitting in another persons ground blind so if its in my way then yes I'm disassembling it and moving it. That kind of song and dance might fly in WA but if you try it in Arizona first you're going to get your ground blind seized and then you're going to get ticketed.
Quote from: 2012-12 Arizona Hunting and Trapping Regulations
p10: Hanging a tree stand or setting a blind near a waterhole does not entitle a person to exclusive hunting rights to that waterhole. Depending upon the location it may be unlawful to leave treestands hanging or ground blinds set for extended periods of time. They may be considered abandoned property and subject to seizure.
Post by: 6x6in6 on October 19, 2012, 02:11:08 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 19, 2012, 02:40:49 PM
my grandpa told me when i was a young buck " IF IS NOT YOURS DON'T TOUCH IT" !! I have applied that saying my entire life. If i set a ground blind up and someones decide to take it down I'm calling BS.. samething with a treestand. be respectfull of others property period!whats next towing my truck that's parked at the same gate??? leave a note call a game wardon and move on theres plenty of land.
Granted that we're off base from the OP but..
There IS plenty of public land, but if I get to it first that morning, I'm using it if I want. Call BS all you want. I don't care who taught who what personal ethic. The law is on my side, at least in my state. Someone leaving a ground blind in advance doesn't mean squat. I don't believe in sitting in another persons ground blind so if its in my way then yes I'm disassembling it and moving it. That kind of song and dance might fly in WA but if you try it in Arizona first you're going to get your ground blind seized and then you're going to get ticketed.Quote from: 2012-12 Arizona Hunting and Trapping Regulationsp10: Hanging a tree stand or setting a blind near a waterhole does not entitle a person to exclusive hunting rights to that waterhole. Depending upon the location it may be unlawful to leave treestands hanging or ground blinds set for extended periods of time. They may be considered abandoned property and subject to seizure.
BC, right now I'm picturing you getting up in my face like your governor in Obama's! :yike: :yike: I hear ya, baby!
Post by: 6x6in6 on October 19, 2012, 02:46:25 PM
there is a bunch of lifted dodges up here. Get any pics of it? I have some very good diesel connections..
also, do you see it in any of the lynden truck galleries here?
http://www.facebook.com/#!/NWTruckPulls/photos_albums (http://www.facebook.com/#!/NWTruckPulls/photos_albums)
I'd venture to guess that you and I now a lot of the same people who are regular pullers at Bertheson and Moses Lake, some of which are tuned at a certain diesel shop on the outskirts of NE Bellingham.....
Post by: scoyoc5 on October 19, 2012, 02:46:55 PM
my grandpa told me when i was a young buck " IF IS NOT YOURS DON'T TOUCH IT" !! I have applied that saying my entire life. If i set a ground blind up and someones decide to take it down I'm calling BS.. samething with a treestand. be respectfull of others property period!whats next towing my truck that's parked at the same gate??? leave a note call a game wardon and move on theres plenty of land.
Granted that we're off base from the OP but..
There IS plenty of public land, but if I get to it first that morning, I'm using it if I want. Call BS all you want. I don't care who taught who what personal ethic. The law is on my side, at least in my state. Someone leaving a ground blind in advance doesn't mean squat. I don't believe in sitting in another persons ground blind so if its in my way then yes I'm disassembling it and moving it. That kind of song and dance might fly in WA but if you try it in Arizona first you're going to get your ground blind seized and then you're going to get ticketed.Quote from: 2012-12 Arizona Hunting and Trapping Regulationsp10: Hanging a tree stand or setting a blind near a waterhole does not entitle a person to exclusive hunting rights to that waterhole. Depending upon the location it may be unlawful to leave treestands hanging or ground blinds set for extended periods of time. They may be considered abandoned property and subject to seizure.
lol
Post by: JohnVH on October 19, 2012, 02:48:12 PM
there is a bunch of lifted dodges up here. Get any pics of it? I have some very good diesel connections..
also, do you see it in any of the lynden truck galleries here?
http://www.facebook.com/#!/NWTruckPulls/photos_albums (http://www.facebook.com/#!/NWTruckPulls/photos_albums)
I'd venture to guess that you and I now a lot of the same people who are regular pullers at Bertheson and Moses Lake, some of which are tuned at a certain diesel shop on the outskirts of NE Bellingham.....
I know your right :tup:
Post by: 6x6in6 on October 19, 2012, 02:52:25 PM
When I'm across the street getting my morning latte, I have been known to call the short guy behind the front desk and poke fun at him about being displaced during the remodel. I laugh, he whines!there is a bunch of lifted dodges up here. Get any pics of it? I have some very good diesel connections..
also, do you see it in any of the lynden truck galleries here?
http://www.facebook.com/#!/NWTruckPulls/photos_albums (http://www.facebook.com/#!/NWTruckPulls/photos_albums)
I'd venture to guess that you and I now a lot of the same people who are regular pullers at Bertheson and Moses Lake, some of which are tuned at a certain diesel shop on the outskirts of NE Bellingham.....
I know your right :tup:
Post by: Chesapeake on October 19, 2012, 03:01:48 PM
A suggestion for trail cam users.
Take in with you some ladder sticks and place your trail cameras in the trees cable locked and 10 foot high or so.
This seems to greatly reduce or eliminate theft. I think most folks dont ever see them cause they are up out of the normal line of sight. And while alot of folks carry multi-tools that could be used to cut cables, few carry a ladder. Dont place them over bait, its too obvious.
Would be nice if folks just left stuff alone though and you didnt have to lock stuff up.
I've considered the same thing but never tried it. How well does this work, and how do you ensure you angle it properly everytime? It seems like it would eliminate line-of-sight quite a bit. I suppose I'd rather have less pics than a stolen cam though.
My buddy makes mounts that are just a piece of all thread that threads into the tripod screw adapter in the bottom of some cameras/bear boxes smashed/soldered into a length of copper tubing thats flattened and has a few holes drilled for screws. Take your cameras, cable locks, bear boxes (if you have), a cordless drill, and some sheetrock screws. You screw the tubeing mount into the base of the camera, climb the tree and screw the tubing to the tree with sheetrock screws. Then you can easily bend and twist the copper tube to aim the camera. Lock it up, then climb down and do your walk test. Climb back up and turn it on. Then take your ladder sticks and go.
Never seems to be an issue aiming the camera or getting pics.
Post by: robescc on October 19, 2012, 07:35:14 PM
As far as the ethics of not hunting someone else's blind, first come first serve on public land. Yes it sucks but that is how it is.
Post by: B-Nut on October 19, 2012, 07:38:49 PM
:bdid:
Post by: JohnVH on October 19, 2012, 07:38:52 PM
I just think that people shouldn't get all pissed off if someone leaves a camera on public land and it isn't there when they go to retrieve it. If someone does take it, how can it be proven they stole it?
Wow. Really? You sound like a thief. It's a fricken game camera, if you take it home with you it wouldn't work. Would it?
Post by: robescc on October 19, 2012, 07:46:43 PM
Post by: JohnVH on October 19, 2012, 07:50:57 PM
Post by: robescc on October 19, 2012, 07:54:58 PM
Post by: JohnVH on October 19, 2012, 07:59:09 PM
Post by: scoyoc5 on October 19, 2012, 08:35:53 PM
Post by: go4itlab on October 20, 2012, 05:13:31 PM
Post by: Whitpirate on October 20, 2012, 05:54:23 PM
QuoteUnattended blinds are available to the public on a “first-come first-serve” basis. These rules were designed to provide an equal opportunity for all users.
2012 Regs. p. 88.
That said, I probably would not use another's blind or stand, unless it was in an area that I wanted to place a blind or stand. Instead, I would probably just hunt another area, or put up my own blind or stand. But the requirements are clear. You cannot "call" an area by setting a blind or stand, then leaving it unattended.
Sorry about your trail camera, that behavior should be punishable by more than what currently applies.
This has to do with permanent blinds set up by the state or by organizations like DU. This isn't referring to privately owned blinds, although it could be interpreted that way.
True... But you can't leave a set of dekes out all night why would it be ok to leave a ground blind. Hell technically if we get down to it leaving the blind is littering.
Post by: go4itlab on October 20, 2012, 07:28:47 PM
Post by: scoyoc5 on October 20, 2012, 07:36:47 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on October 20, 2012, 07:37:44 PM
Post by: slim9300 on October 20, 2012, 07:48:05 PM
Update got the trail camera back :tup:, Thanks to all the Whatcom County Guys that helped with tracking it down!!!!! I'm hoping the guy that stole it thinks twice now about taking something that doesn't belong to him.
Sweet news! Glad to hear things ended well.
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Post by: Whitpirate on October 20, 2012, 07:57:27 PM
Post by: JohnVH on October 20, 2012, 08:03:25 PM
how did you get it back ? did he show up with it or did someone else ?:yeah:
Post by: go4itlab on October 20, 2012, 11:29:15 PM
Post by: shoot-em-dead on October 20, 2012, 11:43:42 PM
Post by: JohnVH on October 21, 2012, 09:08:18 AM
Post by: Curly on October 21, 2012, 09:20:24 AM
Look, I don't want anyone to take what I said wrong. I don't condone what happened. I just think that people shouldn't get all pissed off if someone leaves a camera on public land and it isn't there when they go to retrieve it. If someone does take it, how can it be proven they stole it? They could say it was abandoned. There is no way there could be theft charges brought against them.
As far as the ethics of not hunting someone else's blind, first come first serve on public land. Yes it sucks but that is how it is.
He wasn't on public land. But I still don't understand your logic? I leave my truck parked on public land all the time when I am hunting. Should I not be pissed if somebody steals it? People have all the right in the world to be pissed off whenever somebody takes something that does not belong to them no matter where it is taken from.
:yeah:
I don't understand the logic either. A guy should be totally pissed if he goes to check his cam and it is gone. I lag bolt mine to a tree in a bear box, and haven't had the misfortune of having it stolen yet, but I sure as hell am going to be pissed if it gets stolen.
What if a guy rides a mountain bike in somewhere, parks it and hunts for a while, comes back and the bike is gone? Should he just say "Oh, well.........it is public land. Too bad". ??? Thieves suck. It doesn't matter if it is easy for them to steal an item, they shouldn't be stealing. They ought to get their fingers lopped off if caught stealing. :twocents:
Post by: Arnbo on November 14, 2012, 10:30:24 AM
I have never had a camera stolen ,But last year the landowner showed up
Twice with his dog and wife.Funny thingishe swore that no one ,Not even him
Has been out in the wooded part of the land.Lots of scrapes on his pine trees around the pond but no shooters.
Post by: ldjbuff on November 14, 2012, 11:35:07 AM
We did that with a cell phone I found, I called the owner and told him I found his phone, but put pics of me in a speedo on it :chuckle:
Post by: slim9300 on November 14, 2012, 01:17:09 PM
I hope I find a trail cam, I would take like nasty shots with it, crotch butt etc, then put it back on the tree lol
We did that with a cell phone I found, I called the owner and told him I found his phone, but put pics of me in a speedo on it :chuckle:
Sounds like you get off on men looking at you naked. That's pretty 'special.' I hope you don't find one of my cams.
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Post by: jrebel on November 14, 2012, 01:35:11 PM
how did you get it back ? did he show up with it or did someone else ?:yeah:
was it a hunt wa member????
Post by: JohnVH on November 14, 2012, 01:37:00 PM
Post by: KFhunter on November 14, 2012, 01:52:54 PM
Post by: ldjbuff on November 14, 2012, 02:02:48 PM
I hope I find a trail cam, I would take like nasty shots with it, crotch butt etc, then put it back on the tree lol
We did that with a cell phone I found, I called the owner and told him I found his phone, but put pics of me in a speedo on it :chuckle:
Sounds like you get off on men looking at you naked. That's pretty 'special.' I hope you don't find one of my cams.
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Nope, just think its funny. And no not naked pics