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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: AOD on October 25, 2012, 04:18:37 PM
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Curious on what people think? I have weighed almost a dozen that were gutted. Just weighed last nights deer whole....these are tiny deer...much smaller than mulies and whities right?
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Depends on where the BTs are at. I've seen some that are probably close to 250--275 lbs live. They tend to live in the high country. The ones that live in towns may only be around 150 lbs live.
Seen WTs between 90 and 220 lbs. Couldn't tell you enough about mulies.
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The one I shot last year, and another my brother shot a few years back were both well over 200lbs. They were both in the foothills at about 800ft.
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We got almost 100 lbs of good meat off of my brothers blackie he shot last year. it was huge!
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They vary in size just like whitetails. Just because your deer are small it doesn't mean they all are. The three biggest blacktails I've weighed were between 215 and 230lbs gutted.
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That's like asking what is the average weight of a human. Deer like all cervids very from genetic make up to how much beer they drink. :chuckle: really though they can very a lot.
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I got 70 lbs of boned out meat off the one I just got, and I kept the tenderloins and back straps. It would have gone over 200 live.
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I got 65lbs of processed meat without the front left quarter and neck that was destroyed when I shot it. I'd guess 200lbs live weight.
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damn sounds kinda like bears all of them are 400 lbs,200 lbs is a huge blackie :chuckle:
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Depends on where the deer r. We've killed a few over 200lbs the largest was 275lbs before fielddressing it. Two of them were big 2 pts. One 2 pt we weighed after field dressing it at 175 lbs, add the guts and it is over 200. There r some big ones.
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Geez. My bucks probably average closer to 150 live weight. And to me those have been bigger bodied bucks. We got one that was probably a solid 180 and he was a toad. Still got MAYBE 60lbs of meat off him, which is a lot to me for a blacktail.
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Our island BTs have ranged from 30 to 54 pounds of meat, every scrap I could possibly get off, except maybe some of the thin rib meat.
Haven't weighed a whole one but know that I can lift a 160 pound person off their feet and have had a hard time lifting a few on the rope to hang them, but I could.
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Depends on where the deer r. We've killed a few over 200lbs the largest was 275lbs before fielddressing it. Two of them were big 2 pts. One 2 pt we weighed after field dressing it at 175 lbs, add the guts and it is over 200. There r some big ones.
Funny, I've killed 50+ deer, WT's, MD, and BT's and the biggest bodied deer was a 2 pt blacktail. I got him around the 5500' level. I didn't get to weigh him but he had to be pushing 300 lbs. Big ol' nasty buck. Toughest deer I ever ate.
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Mature (4 years or older) anywhere between 150 and 220lbs live weight I would say.
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They vary in size just like whitetails. Just because your deer are small it doesn't mean they all are. The three biggest blacktails I've weighed were between 215 and 230lbs gutted.
:yike: you have gotten some big ones! :o The last three spike elk i have shot have been 215-228 hanging weight.
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Over the last 35 years I have weighed 6 that were over 190 lbs gutted. Heaviest was 222 lbs gutted. All from west lewis county
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I have seen a couple blacktail that would go an honest 200+lbs. Not calling anyone liars but I'd like to see pictures of these 250-300lb deer. I've killed a couple big bodied mule deer bucks that probably wouldn't have weight 300lbs. Again, not calling anyone a liar would just love to see a 300lb blacky.
I'm headed to Wyoming now to look for a 300lb high country muley to compare to.
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One of my bigger blacktails was an old 18 inch 2x3, had to bone him out as I was way back. I weighed the boned out meat and was 130. Yes that was boned meat , I made 2 trips to get him out . I had another buck that scored 127 that was 197 gutted so right around that 250 maybee 260 pound mark live . Wife killed a 10 1/2 year old blacktail 2 years ago we brought out guts and all just for chits and giggles as it was a good sized buck , probably the 6th biggest boddied blacktail we have killed and he was 220 live , 175 gutted and 155 hanging meat . I had another old 3 point that went 186 gutted, and a big heavy 4 point that was bigger than any other blacktails I have gotten weights on and was from Lincoln Creek .
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Great answers! A interesting fact is that body mass of deer species usually increases the further north the animal is located. Example California BT<Oregon BT<Washington BT<BC BT as far as body weight goes. In whatcom county I have never weighed one that went less than 205 gutted. Finally got a live weight on one...guesses?
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That's like asking what is the average weight of a human. Deer like all cervids very from genetic make up to how much beer they drink. :chuckle: really though they can very a lot.
worldwide average human weight is 136.7 pounds....
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You guys that can get the LIVE weight of a deer have my respect...... :chuckle:
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LOL!
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You guys that can get the LIVE weight of a deer have my respect...... :chuckle:
wimp :chuckle: :chuckle:
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LOL LOkidog....love it. :chuckle:
This thread has the potential to be epic. Where is Dman?
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sorry have to go here :chuckle: California coastal blacktail I took many yrs ago :yike: :chuckle:
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AOD has a pic posted above and I killed a buck similiar to it. 14 inch wide 3x3 with eyeguards that I figure to be 3.5-4 yrs old. Just finished butchering him up and ended up with 24 pounds of steaks and 42 pounds of burger. 66 pounds of meat total and that included rib and al the neck meat. Figure it weighted near 150pounds on the hoof.
Couple years ago my son shot a buck and we hauled 95 pounds of boned out meat off that hill. left rib meat and bloodshot meat there. prolly 10 pounds worth. It was an easy 200 plus pounds on the hoof. have seen a dozen or so bucks as big or maybe a little bigger body wise. They can get very big. I shoot all my bucks west of I-5.
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Been at this along time... 40 plus years... There are a few 200lb. plus pound BL bucks in our area... I don't think I can honestly say I have seen to many over that size here... GMU 651,672,648 636... They are here but, seem to be to smart when I'm out looking for them... My biggest one came from the middle of Stump Lake in 1976... 3x4 22 inches wide 209lbs.with the guts out...Very water logged buck...weighed the buck on hay bail scales...not sure how accurate they were...
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I have shot many blackies and most are probably around the 150 mark. I did get a forkie that was 17 inches wide several years ago and he was a toad. I couldn't drag him by myself.
This topic does remind me of growing up in Michigan. The whitetail are way bigger there than any of the ones I've seen in Wa. but they also have to pack on more weight for the winter. I remember cutting 2 to 3 inches of fat off some and over here they don't even have any fat.
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damn sounds kinda like bears all of them are 400 lbs,200 lbs is a huge blackie :chuckle:
400 lbs is a huge bear. 200? Most mature bears in this state are 180 +/- a few pounds. Doesn't take a huge frame for a fall bear to go 250. Especially over on the Penninsula, every bear I used to see over there was a fatty.
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My family has taken a few over 250lbs, one of them was my mom's 3x3 which was 245lbs hanging before it was skinned out. they all came from unit 460. And I've seen a few that looked closer to 300lbs but it's hard to judge a deer until it's on the ground or on a scale.
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Just tonight my son-in-law shot a 3x4 that dressed out at 177lbs. I will post pictures when I have access to a computer and internet. The mature bucks around here get big. He was totally on fire, this was his third deer. Very proud mother-in-law!!!
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Where are the 500 pound guesses? Those are my favorite. Sorry AOD, we had a thread about this about 3 years ago. It was a doozy
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This is my biggest bodied buck and the biggest one I've seen in person. My buddy laying next to it is 220lb range, that should be a good comparison. We were unable to weigh it, quartered it and almost a 3 mile pack out but I'm confident this was in the 200lb range.
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Hope your buddy doesn't get ticks on him from that deer. My bear and whitetail were full of them this year.
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Here I will show ya a true 200 lb plus Blacktail ...So that way you can truely see what a big bodied Blacktail looks like ... :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Hope your buddy doesn't get ticks on him from that deer. My bear and whitetail were full of them this year.
That buck was full of them. Almost covered his brisket, big fat blood filled ones.
That's a giant bow hunter
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this buck was 175 or 185 as you see him
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274# is the biggest BT I have personally weighed, have seen one bigger that could not get to the scale before quartering, i'll see if i can conjure up a picture for ya.
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My dad has shot 2 that were 200lbs, about 20years ago. Some of these big high country ones mentioned could be muley/blackies? Anyone over 200 is a bigggggg one! But yes they can get 200+. I would average a mature blackie around 180, 70ilbs meat.?
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The buck I posted the picture of weight 279# before being gutted. 52# of guts, 227# gutted.
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My dad has shot 2 that were 200lbs, about 20years ago. Some of these big high country ones mentioned could be muley/blackies? Anyone over 200 is a bigggggg one! But yes they can get 200+. I would average a mature blackie around 180, 70ilbs meat.?
This sounds about exactly right. For a MATURE blacktail buck. I'm in Wyoming staying at a buddies house who is a taxidermist and have yet to see a muley buck come in that's 300lbs. The lowlands open Thursday though so the big Cornfed bucks will be showing up soon, still doubt I will see a true 300lb buck.
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I killed one that hanging skinned at Mt. View Meats was 145. Figured around the 200lb live weight mark. Mature buck.
MS
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My dad's big blacktail was hanging carcas with head on 145 lbs. Guess it to be around 225-250 live weight. He was a hog taken out by hearts lake years ago.
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Thats a true giant Rasbo !! :tup:
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I hope BLR243 chimes in on this with his masher 3 point? he shot several years ago. Looked a good bit bigger than any of the ones posted on here if I remember correctly
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Asking for an average is tough without specifying location. What's the average weight of a whitetail? People from Florida would have a very different answer than people from Wisconsin. Then the people from Florida would say the Wisconsin guys are shooting whitetail/muley hybrids, or their scales are wrong, or they're liars, because the biggest deer in their neighborhood was XXXlbs and their dad has never shot one over XXXlbs.
There's a good chance I won't weigh another big blacktail. Anymore I leave the bones up on the hill with the guts.
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We have shot and weighed about a half dozen bucks that were over 200 lbs gutted.
We didn't weigh this one, but it was much bigger then them body wise.
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