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Title: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: AOD on October 25, 2012, 04:18:37 PM
Curious on what people think? I have weighed almost a dozen that were gutted. Just weighed last nights deer whole....these are tiny deer...much smaller than mulies and whities right?
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: JimmyHoffa on October 25, 2012, 04:38:21 PM
Depends on where the BTs are at.  I've seen some that are probably close to 250--275 lbs live.  They tend to live in the high country.  The ones that live in towns may only be around 150 lbs live.
Seen WTs between 90 and 220 lbs.  Couldn't tell you enough about mulies.
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: Turner89 on October 25, 2012, 04:45:08 PM
The one I shot last year, and another my brother shot a few years back were both well over 200lbs. They were both in the foothills at about 800ft.
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: tjthebest on October 25, 2012, 04:52:53 PM
We got almost 100 lbs of good meat off of my brothers blackie he shot last year. it was huge!
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: fish vacuum on October 25, 2012, 04:56:03 PM
They vary in size just like whitetails. Just because your deer are small it doesn't mean they all are. The three biggest blacktails I've weighed were between 215 and 230lbs gutted.
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: buck man on October 25, 2012, 05:04:36 PM
That's like asking what is the average weight of a human.  Deer like all cervids very from genetic make up to how much beer they drink. :chuckle: really though they can very a lot.
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: Ripper on October 25, 2012, 05:22:28 PM
I got 70 lbs of boned out meat off the one I just got, and I kept the tenderloins and back straps. It would have gone over 200 live.
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: crazysccrmd on October 25, 2012, 05:31:27 PM
I got 65lbs of processed meat without the front left quarter and neck that was destroyed when I shot it. I'd guess 200lbs live weight.
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: rasbo on October 25, 2012, 05:34:25 PM
damn sounds kinda like bears all of them are 400 lbs,200 lbs is a huge blackie :chuckle:
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: steen on October 25, 2012, 07:31:27 PM
Depends on where the deer r.  We've killed a few over 200lbs the largest was 275lbs before fielddressing it.  Two of them were big 2 pts.  One 2 pt we weighed after field dressing it at 175 lbs, add the guts and it is over 200.  There r some big ones.
Title: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: sirmissalot on October 25, 2012, 07:36:06 PM
Geez. My bucks probably average closer to 150 live weight. And to me those have been bigger bodied bucks. We got one that was probably a solid 180 and he was a toad. Still got MAYBE 60lbs of meat off him, which is a lot to me for a blacktail.
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: lokidog on October 25, 2012, 07:52:01 PM
Our island BTs have ranged from 30 to 54 pounds of meat, every scrap I could possibly get off, except maybe some of the thin rib meat.

Haven't weighed a whole one but know that I can lift a 160 pound person off their feet and have had a hard time lifting a few on the rope to hang them, but I could.
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: 3nails on October 25, 2012, 07:52:39 PM
Depends on where the deer r.  We've killed a few over 200lbs the largest was 275lbs before fielddressing it.  Two of them were big 2 pts.  One 2 pt we weighed after field dressing it at 175 lbs, add the guts and it is over 200.  There r some big ones.
Funny, I've killed 50+ deer, WT's, MD, and BT's and the biggest bodied deer was a 2 pt blacktail. I got him around the 5500' level. I didn't get to weigh him but he had to be pushing 300 lbs. Big ol' nasty buck. Toughest deer I ever ate.
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: FLIZZ on October 25, 2012, 08:32:26 PM
Mature (4 years or older) anywhere between 150 and 220lbs live weight I would say.
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: sled on October 25, 2012, 08:53:31 PM
 
They vary in size just like whitetails. Just because your deer are small it doesn't mean they all are. The three biggest blacktails I've weighed were between 215 and 230lbs gutted.
:yike:  you have gotten some big ones! :o  The last three spike elk i have shot have been 215-228 hanging weight.
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: Ingwe on October 25, 2012, 09:14:04 PM
Over the last 35 years I have weighed 6 that were over 190 lbs gutted. Heaviest was 222 lbs gutted. All from west lewis county
Title: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: sirmissalot on October 26, 2012, 08:50:30 AM
I have seen a couple blacktail that would go an honest 200+lbs. Not calling anyone liars but I'd like to see pictures of these 250-300lb deer. I've killed a couple big bodied mule deer bucks that probably wouldn't have weight 300lbs. Again, not calling anyone a liar would just love to see a 300lb blacky.

I'm headed to Wyoming now to look for a 300lb high country muley to compare to.
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: bucklucky on October 26, 2012, 09:06:13 AM
One of my bigger blacktails was an old 18 inch 2x3, had to bone him out as I was way back. I weighed the boned out meat and was 130. Yes that was boned meat , I made 2 trips to get him out .  I had another buck that scored 127 that was 197 gutted so right around that 250 maybee 260 pound mark live . Wife killed a 10 1/2 year old blacktail 2 years ago we brought out guts and all just for chits and giggles as it was a good sized buck , probably the 6th biggest boddied blacktail we have killed and he was 220 live , 175 gutted and 155 hanging meat . I had another old 3 point that went 186 gutted, and a big heavy 4 point that was bigger than any other blacktails I have gotten weights on and was from Lincoln Creek .
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: AOD on October 26, 2012, 09:19:34 AM
Great answers! A interesting fact is that body mass of deer species usually increases the further north the animal is located. Example California BT<Oregon BT<Washington BT<BC BT as far as body weight goes. In whatcom county I have never weighed one that went less than 205 gutted. Finally got a live weight on one...guesses?
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: AOD on October 26, 2012, 09:21:30 AM
That's like asking what is the average weight of a human.  Deer like all cervids very from genetic make up to how much beer they drink. :chuckle: really though they can very a lot.
worldwide average human weight is 136.7 pounds....
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: lokidog on October 26, 2012, 09:27:52 AM
You guys that can get the LIVE weight of a deer have my respect......   :chuckle:
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: AOD on October 26, 2012, 09:59:23 AM
LOL!
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: rasbo on October 26, 2012, 10:09:34 AM
You guys that can get the LIVE weight of a deer have my respect......   :chuckle:
wimp  :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: boneaddict on October 26, 2012, 10:10:41 AM
LOL LOkidog....love it. :chuckle:


This thread has the potential to be epic.   Where is Dman?
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: rasbo on October 26, 2012, 10:20:35 AM
sorry have to go here :chuckle: California coastal blacktail I took many yrs ago :yike: :chuckle:
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: Salmo on October 26, 2012, 10:31:03 AM
AOD has a pic posted above and I  killed a buck similiar to it.  14 inch wide 3x3 with eyeguards that I figure to be 3.5-4 yrs old.  Just finished butchering him up and ended up with 24 pounds of steaks and 42 pounds of burger.  66 pounds of meat total and that included rib and al the neck meat.  Figure it weighted near 150pounds on the hoof. 

Couple years ago my son shot a buck and we hauled 95 pounds of boned out meat off that hill.  left rib meat and bloodshot meat there.  prolly 10 pounds worth.    It was an easy 200 plus pounds on the hoof.   have seen a dozen or so bucks as big or maybe a little bigger body wise.  They can get very big.  I shoot all my bucks west of I-5.
 
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: dbor on October 26, 2012, 10:39:05 AM
Been at this along time... 40 plus years... There are a few 200lb. plus pound BL bucks in our area... I don't think I can honestly say I have seen to many over that size here... GMU 651,672,648 636... They are here but, seem to be to smart when I'm out looking for them... My biggest one came from the middle of Stump Lake in 1976... 3x4 22 inches wide 209lbs.with the guts out...Very water logged buck...weighed the buck on hay bail scales...not sure how accurate they were...
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: shoot-em-dead on October 26, 2012, 10:48:48 AM
I have shot many blackies and most are probably around the 150 mark. I did get a forkie that was 17 inches wide several years ago and he was a toad. I couldn't drag him by myself.

This topic does remind me of growing up in Michigan. The whitetail are way bigger there than any of the ones I've seen in Wa. but they also have to pack on more weight for the winter. I remember cutting 2 to 3 inches of fat off some and over here they don't even have any fat.
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: Jonathan_S on October 26, 2012, 12:17:16 PM
damn sounds kinda like bears all of them are 400 lbs,200 lbs is a huge blackie :chuckle:

400 lbs is a huge bear.  200?  Most mature bears in this state are 180 +/- a few pounds.  Doesn't take a huge frame for a fall bear to go 250.  Especially over on the Penninsula, every bear I used to see over there was a fatty.
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: bankwalker on October 26, 2012, 01:51:26 PM
My family has taken a few over 250lbs, one of them was my mom's 3x3 which was 245lbs hanging before it was skinned out. they all came from unit 460. And I've seen a few that looked closer to 300lbs but it's hard to judge a deer until it's on the ground or on a scale.
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: steen on October 26, 2012, 11:06:38 PM
Just tonight my son-in-law shot a 3x4 that dressed out at 177lbs.  I will post pictures when I have access to a computer and internet.  The mature bucks around here get big. He was totally on fire, this was his third deer.  Very proud mother-in-law!!!
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: boneaddict on October 27, 2012, 06:45:35 AM
Where are the 500 pound guesses?   Those are my favorite.   Sorry AOD, we had a thread about this about 3 years ago.  It was a doozy
Title: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: sirmissalot on October 27, 2012, 07:31:30 AM
This is my biggest bodied buck and the biggest one I've seen in person. My buddy laying next to it is 220lb range, that should be a good comparison. We were unable to weigh it, quartered it and almost a 3 mile pack out but I'm confident this was in the 200lb range.

Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: steen on October 27, 2012, 07:43:29 AM
Hope your buddy doesn't get ticks on him from that deer.  My bear and whitetail were full of them this year.
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on October 27, 2012, 08:22:11 AM
Here I will show ya a true 200 lb plus Blacktail ...So that way you can truely see what a big bodied Blacktail looks like ... :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: sirmissalot on October 27, 2012, 08:49:04 AM
Hope your buddy doesn't get ticks on him from that deer.  My bear and whitetail were full of them this year.

That buck was full of them. Almost covered his brisket, big fat blood filled ones.

That's a giant bow hunter
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: rasbo on October 27, 2012, 08:55:03 AM
this buck was 175 or 185 as you see him
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: johnsc6 on October 30, 2012, 12:07:52 PM
274# is the biggest BT I have personally weighed, have seen one bigger that could not get to the scale before quartering, i'll see if i can conjure up a picture for ya.
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: Mudman on October 30, 2012, 01:55:04 PM
My dad has shot 2 that were 200lbs, about 20years ago.  Some of these big high country ones mentioned could be muley/blackies?  Anyone over 200 is a bigggggg one!  But yes they can get 200+.  I would average a mature blackie around 180, 70ilbs meat.?
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: AOD on October 30, 2012, 01:56:25 PM
The buck I posted the picture of weight 279# before being gutted. 52# of guts, 227# gutted.
Title: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: sirmissalot on October 30, 2012, 07:26:38 PM
My dad has shot 2 that were 200lbs, about 20years ago.  Some of these big high country ones mentioned could be muley/blackies?  Anyone over 200 is a bigggggg one!  But yes they can get 200+.  I would average a mature blackie around 180, 70ilbs meat.?

This sounds about exactly right. For a MATURE blacktail buck. I'm in Wyoming staying at a buddies house who is a taxidermist and have yet to see a muley buck come in that's 300lbs. The lowlands open Thursday though so the big Cornfed bucks will be showing up soon, still doubt I will see a true 300lb buck.
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: MuleySniper on October 30, 2012, 07:29:01 PM
I killed one that hanging skinned at Mt. View Meats was 145.  Figured around the 200lb live weight mark. Mature buck.
MS
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: jrebel on October 30, 2012, 07:30:59 PM
My dad's big blacktail was hanging carcas with head on 145 lbs.  Guess it to be around 225-250 live weight.  He was a hog taken out by hearts lake years ago.
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on October 30, 2012, 07:36:13 PM
Thats a true giant Rasbo !!  :tup:
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: deerslyr on October 30, 2012, 07:36:46 PM
I hope BLR243 chimes in on this with his masher 3 point? he shot several years ago. Looked a good bit bigger than any of the ones posted on here if I remember correctly
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: fish vacuum on October 31, 2012, 01:10:35 AM
Asking for an average is tough without specifying location. What's the average weight of a whitetail? People from Florida would have a very different answer than people from Wisconsin. Then the people from Florida would say the Wisconsin guys are shooting whitetail/muley hybrids, or their scales are wrong, or they're liars, because the biggest deer in their neighborhood was XXXlbs and their dad has never shot one over XXXlbs.
There's a good chance I won't weigh another big blacktail. Anymore I leave the bones up on the hill with the guts.
Title: Re: What is the live weight of a mature blacktail?
Post by: billythekidrock on October 31, 2012, 05:20:54 AM
We have shot and weighed about a half dozen bucks that were over 200 lbs gutted.

We didn't weigh this one, but it was much bigger then them body wise.
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