Post by: krism83 on October 28, 2012, 09:00:18 PM
Due to limited options at the gun shop to choose from right now, I am going to pick up a Mauser 98 in .30-06
Switch the factory barrel out for a Shilen 26" bull barrel in .300 win mag (or .25-06 haven't decided yet)
Throw on a Millet TRS1 4x16 scope
Stock trigger out for a Timney featherweight adjustable trigger
Haven't found a replacement stock for it yet, but wont need it quite yet
If you more experienced builders have any suggestions please let me know, this will be the first go round for me so input is very welcomed.
Post by: Jim the Plumber on October 28, 2012, 09:16:59 PM
The Remington 700's are truly the way to go. your overall cost will be less with the Remington from the endless amount of new and used parts available.
Post by: krism83 on October 28, 2012, 09:30:58 PM
Post by: krism83 on October 28, 2012, 09:32:55 PM
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on October 28, 2012, 09:37:24 PM
Post by: krism83 on October 28, 2012, 09:41:21 PM
Not 7mm Mag because I have two already lol.
Post by: Huntbear on October 28, 2012, 10:16:47 PM
How about a stock???
You can build a Savage rifle and actually have a switch barrel for about what you will have in the mauser, by the time you buy a new barrel, have it chambered, etc....
Post by: Jim the Plumber on October 28, 2012, 10:31:30 PM
Bi-Mart has the SS ADL's with a cheapo scope, on sale for $400.00.00 or so.
If you are a WAC member, hit the November 17-18th show in Puyallup.
Post by: krism83 on October 28, 2012, 10:32:12 PM
Stock I haven't looked at yet, I was going to roll with the factory stock until I could get and or find one that will fit. I haven't done anything to any of the original equipment on it yet, I can't pick it up till tuesday after they open up again and I have my paycheck in the bank.
Building off of a Savage action from what I hear is significantly cheaper and easier but I am not joking when I say that the ONLY Savage in the shop Saturday was a Savage 10 in .243.
The Shilen CS person I talked to said that the only thing I will need to pay extra for on the barrel is reaming and head spacing.
Post by: krism83 on October 28, 2012, 10:35:01 PM
Post by: Jingles on October 28, 2012, 10:37:16 PM
http://rifle-stocks.com/ (http://rifle-stocks.com/)
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on October 28, 2012, 11:02:22 PM
243win or 6mm BR would be fine choices.
If you're looking to compete in F-class, then check out http://usfclass.com (http://usfclass.com) & http://www.6mmbr.com/fclass.html (http://www.6mmbr.com/fclass.html)
-Steve
Post by: Biggerhammer on October 28, 2012, 11:06:03 PM
So it was close to 360.00 out the door. Subtract 110.00 or so from the total, from the sale of the parts and look what you have into the action. The .300 Win mag is a excellent chambering, after all the years of shooting them. I feel the 11 twist is the way to go and has performed the best for me but I like the 165-190gr bullets for the .300. the 190gr Berger's were perfection in the 11 twist.
Post by: Jim the Plumber on October 28, 2012, 11:55:48 PM
I was going to join the WAC last time I went but like an idiot I forgot some significant piece of the puzzle for joining so I couldn't. Maybe I will stop by after school on Saturday depending on how late they run. Are you going to be out there Jim?I'll have a table in the Saturday only area.
I'll have a few of my Precision Tactical targets on display as well as an RBros rifle (or 2).
If you have a CPL, it makes it allot easer and faster to get a WAC membership.
Post by: FALFire on October 29, 2012, 06:13:02 AM
Savage pre-fit barrels are the cheapest and easiest to go with and for the Remington 700, there are now Criterion pre-fit Rem/Age barrels that use the same barrel nut way of head spacing so no gunsmith is required. Savage bolt heads can easily be swapped out, no gunsmithing required. Stocks are available from Bell and Carlson, Manners, HS Precision, McMillan and many others, Mauser stocks.....not so plentiful. Triggers for Remington or Savage are by the truck loads and easily found used for great prices.
In my opinion, you are wasting your money on anything Mauser modified. :twocents:
Post by: coachcw on October 29, 2012, 06:25:21 AM
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Post by: Zardoz on October 29, 2012, 01:40:26 PM
Post by: X-Force on October 29, 2012, 01:53:09 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on October 29, 2012, 02:04:36 PM
Will someone please tell me what WAC is? Thanks
Kinda like I didn't know what, STD's were when I was younger............ :chuckle:
Post by: FALFire on October 29, 2012, 02:19:39 PM
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on October 29, 2012, 02:23:30 PM
Definitely go with a Remington based platform. In the end, you will have far more money tied up in the Mouser and still won't have the strength of the Remington.
:yeah:
Post by: huntinguy on October 29, 2012, 07:11:57 PM
Well I have a fasination with odd ball calibers which is where the 25-06 comes in, but for cost effectiveness the fall back is .300 win mag.
Not 7mm Mag because I have two already lol.
280 remington or 7mm express. Nice round heavyer than the 25-06 and lighter than the 300win mag.
Post by: runningboard on October 29, 2012, 08:03:10 PM
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Post by: Jim the Plumber on October 29, 2012, 10:56:16 PM
no no GRENDEL says it allLOL, that's funny..
Post by: krism83 on October 30, 2012, 08:56:35 PM
I do love odd ball calibers, but this one i think I am going to do in a standard universal format so that I don't have to buy new dies to make up loads to test out on it.
Post by: toothfangclaw on October 30, 2012, 09:17:15 PM
Well I went and did a little searching around town the other night after work and it looks like I can find a good 770 model Remington for about 329 and then sell the barrel and glass that are on it for a few dollars to make back some of the money for the build. What that also means is I have to go back and look at different barrels to put on which should actually be easier because i believe (correct me if im wrong) some companies actually make drop ins for Remington models.
I do love odd ball calibers, but this one i think I am going to do in a standard universal format so that I don't have to buy new dies to make up loads to test out on it.
Iirc a Remington 770 has a pressed in barrel. At least a 710 does.
Post by: Jim the Plumber on October 30, 2012, 09:21:10 PM
Well I went and did a little searching around town the other night after work and it looks like I can find a good 770 model Remington for about 329 and then sell the barrel and glass that are on it for a few dollars to make back some of the money for the build. What that also means is I have to go back and look at different barrels to put on which should actually be easier because i believe (correct me if im wrong) some companies actually make drop ins for Remington models.NO! The 770 is a pile. There are NO parts avalible for the 770. You want to find a 700.
I do love odd ball calibers, but this one i think I am going to do in a standard universal format so that I don't have to buy new dies to make up loads to test out on it.
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on October 30, 2012, 09:25:00 PM
Post by: Caseyd on October 30, 2012, 09:36:24 PM
Well I went and did a little searching around town the other night after work and it looks like I can find a good 770 model Remington for about 329 and then sell the barrel and glass that are on it for a few dollars to make back some of the money for the build. What that also means is I have to go back and look at different barrels to put on which should actually be easier because i believe (correct me if im wrong) some companies actually make drop ins for Remington models.NO! The 770 is a pile. There are NO parts avalible for the 770. You want to find a 700.
I do love odd ball calibers, but this one i think I am going to do in a standard universal format so that I don't have to buy new dies to make up loads to test out on it.
:yeah:
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on October 30, 2012, 09:58:25 PM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,107112.msg1398893.html#msg1398893 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,107112.msg1398893.html#msg1398893)
or
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,100431.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,100431.0.html)
Post by: krism83 on October 30, 2012, 10:23:58 PM
Yes they can be found, yes there are parts readily available, and yes they are the easiest to build off of. However they aren't the cheapest to get started off of, and this is a "budget build" so I am looking to go for possibly lower quality for my first one to keep cost down.
Don't get me wrong I am still looking over all my options and possibilities right now and I appreciate all of the advice so far, but as far as keeping cost down I don't know how plausible that is going to be at this point in time.
Post by: toothfangclaw on October 30, 2012, 10:45:55 PM
I own a rem 710, and it shoots fine for me. I can shoot moa @200 yards with cheap federal ammo. But if you are looking for customizing, a 710-770 is not the way to go.
Post by: krism83 on October 30, 2012, 10:50:40 PM
Post by: toothfangclaw on October 30, 2012, 10:54:28 PM
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on October 30, 2012, 10:57:42 PM
Well the gun shop has a ton of 70's and 700's on the shelves, but they are all at or around 500 bucks which blows like half of my build budget and the other half goes to the glass I'm putting on it.
Yes they can be found, yes there are parts readily available, and yes they are the easiest to build off of. However they aren't the cheapest to get started off of, and this is a "budget build" so I am looking to go for possibly lower quality for my first one to keep cost down.
Don't get me wrong I am still looking over all my options and possibilities right now and I appreciate all of the advice so far, but as far as keeping cost down I don't know how plausible that is going to be at this point in time.
Here is a question for ya, have you contacted a gunsmith to actually do the work that can't be done by yourself? It sounds like there is going to be some level of smithing required, so I would sugguest asking for a qoute on the cost of building what you are looking for on the Mauser and the Remington.
You might be looking at false economics. Yes, the Mauser may/will be cheaper to get at the front end of this build, but it may turn into a higher cost vs return at the backend.
That being said, it's your project and your wallet, in the end if you are happy with the results....that's all that matters. Looking forward to following this build and seeing the results.
Post by: FALFire on October 31, 2012, 07:35:06 AM
Post by: wraithen on October 31, 2012, 07:45:10 AM
Try to find a long action Stevens 200 with a .473 bolt face.....270, 30-06, 25-06 but really it does not matter just as long as it is a long action. They are cheap and pretty easy to find, I just purchased one for 220 bucks with a scope in excellent condition from a gun shop.
These are honestly your best bet. less money to a smith. dont worry that these are the low end savages, the actions are the same. DO NOT get an axis or whatever the other name is. these are not going to work. the stevens line is a good action with a crappy stock. they are very inexpensive. I think savage figured out ppl were buying these just for the actions and thats why they discontinued them.
Post by: JPhelps on November 01, 2012, 03:59:05 PM
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Post by: yorketransport on November 02, 2012, 09:24:17 PM
You get all of that for the cost of the parts and no labor charges or wait time. There are lots of folks, myself included, who could help you assemble your parts when they're all ready. Remingtons are good actions, but not always the best to build off of if you have budget limitations. I'm not saying that the Savage is the best action, but I'll promise that a top quality barrel on a Savage will shoot just as well as a comparable barrel on a Remington, Mauser, Winchester or Ruger action.
Andrew
Post by: deerslyr on November 03, 2012, 01:15:52 AM
Post by: landcbeitner on November 06, 2012, 11:12:35 AM
Mauser in 308 (on left)...
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc39%2Fcassandrabeitner%2FLucas%2520New%2520Stuff%25201%2F007-2.jpg&hash=ba5bc741909dc4ec8ed5ec3d4c37f1d46d03fcb6)
Mosin Nagant in 260 rem
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi24.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc39%2Fcassandrabeitner%2FLucas%2520New%2520Stuff%25201%2F016-1.jpg&hash=c56e89d36800c359c5b49cbd0b58f321f1ad24d4)
And although it's on the back burner... there's a Lee Enfield SMLE (6.5 Creedmoor) in the works!
Post by: jaychris on November 06, 2012, 11:29:06 AM
So I saw a post on here about a "budget build rifle" and decided to give it a shot myself.
Due to limited options at the gun shop to choose from right now, I am going to pick up a Mauser 98 in .30-06
Switch the factory barrel out for a Shilen 26" bull barrel in .300 win mag (or .25-06 haven't decided yet)
Throw on a Millet TRS1 4x16 scope
Stock trigger out for a Timney featherweight adjustable trigger
Haven't found a replacement stock for it yet, but wont need it quite yet
If you more experienced builders have any suggestions please let me know, this will be the first go round for me so input is very welcomed.
Post by: jaymark6655 on November 06, 2012, 11:59:35 AM
Well the gun shop has a ton of 70's and 700's on the shelves, but they are all at or around 500 bucks which blows like half of my build budget and the other half goes to the glass I'm putting on it.Don't get a whole rifle. Try and find just the action. It needs to be a 700. :tup:
Yes they can be found, yes there are parts readily available, and yes they are the easiest to build off of. However they aren't the cheapest to get started off of, and this is a "budget build" so I am looking to go for possibly lower quality for my first one to keep cost down.
Don't get me wrong I am still looking over all my options and possibilities right now and I appreciate all of the advice so far, but as far as keeping cost down I don't know how plausible that is going to be at this point in time.
Post by: coachcw on November 06, 2012, 12:46:18 PM
Post by: krism83 on November 17, 2012, 06:08:58 PM
Had a few dollars with me to spend on something but nothing I found in my range really looked like it would hold up and the ones that would were out of my range.
A couple guys said build off of a Remington 70/700 action, a couple more said build off of a Howa or Tikka action, but more importantly EVERYONE said the Mauser 98 action was a terrible idea. So I have decided to scrap the "budget" portion of this build and just "big" with it.
No jaychris I wont be doing any matches with this rifle as of right now. This will be my long range intro piece. One I can get comfortable shooting at longer distances then 400 yards and see where it takes me. I want to get a lot of trigger time in on this gun before I even think of doing competitions.
Post by: high country on November 18, 2012, 05:30:23 PM
I would gather your parts and now, as barrels can take several months to get your mitts on.