Post by: Salmo on October 29, 2012, 09:35:47 PM
Thanks!!
Post by: Huntbear on October 29, 2012, 09:38:15 PM
Great site for load data especially for the oddball calibers
Post by: Salmo on October 29, 2012, 09:58:42 PM
Thanks for the link though!
Post by: Dan-o on October 29, 2012, 10:15:36 PM
Odd ball? hardly, :chuckle:
Thanks for the link though!
Clearly, the 6.5-06 is NOT an oddball chambering. It would need to develop quite a few more fans to be categorized as an oddball! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
What a neat round, though. Just another chambering I'd love to own.
Post by: b23 on October 29, 2012, 10:22:22 PM
Lapua 30-06 necked down to 6.5 will do 3200fps with a 140 Berger out of a 6.5-06 Ack. Imp. I would guess a non improved version would be 100ish FPS slower. There isn't much case capacity gained with improving the 06 case but you'll rarely ever have to trim a case.
Post by: b23 on October 29, 2012, 10:25:16 PM
Post by: Salmo on October 29, 2012, 10:57:15 PM
For what bullet and which brass are you using?
Lapua 30-06 necked down to 6.5 will do 3200fps with a 140 Berger out of a 6.5-06 Ack. Imp. I would guess a non improved version would be 100ish FPS slower. There isn't much case capacity gained with improving the 06 case but you'll rarely ever have to trim a case.
I like 140's in the 6.5. Brass? whatever shoots the best.
Post by: Salmo on October 29, 2012, 10:58:17 PM
Also, nearly all reloading manuals have the 6.5-06 listed.
The manuals I own list .260 velocitys. WTF?
Post by: Huntbear on October 29, 2012, 11:02:01 PM
Odd ball? hardly, :chuckle:
Thanks for the link though!
Oddball to me is anything I can not walk into Bi Mart and buy a box of ammo.. my .257 Ackley Improved is in the same category.
Post by: Salmo on October 29, 2012, 11:37:46 PM
Post by: high country on October 30, 2012, 02:47:20 PM
Here is what to expect at 1800fps-ish impact velocities with the 142 smk when you smash it into an elk.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi193.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fz16%2Fgyonemura%2FIMAG0004.jpg&hash=2a629d911c0441339baa1ba0dc28e714ac4f74bd)
Post by: 7ultra on October 30, 2012, 03:07:08 PM
Post by: high country on October 30, 2012, 03:28:14 PM
Post by: 7ultra on October 30, 2012, 10:56:48 PM
Post by: high country on October 30, 2012, 11:19:21 PM
well i beg to differ i have a 264 win mag that has been handed down for years and it has over a thousand rounds easily through it and it still shoots 1/2 to 3/4 in groups and does over 3100 fps with 140gr
3100 is not far out of reach for the 06' cases. If you are happy with 1/2-3/4" then good enough. I personally choose the 6.5 stuff for accuracy. I would rather send a 142 at 2900 into .2" then send it at 3100 into .75".....hell after killing a few elk at range (500-750) I can't see any reason to sweat the little bit of speed.
Post by: Caseyd on October 30, 2012, 11:22:32 PM
Post by: high country on October 30, 2012, 11:25:01 PM
Post by: coachcw on October 31, 2012, 06:53:42 AM
Post by: b23 on October 31, 2012, 01:19:01 PM
If you could get good tough Lapua brass for the 264 I think it would be capable of more FPS but with the brass that is currently available for the 264 it can't be pushed very hard before you stretch the primer pockets. The 6.5-06 or 6.5-284 with Lapua brass will shoot right with a 264 winnie but with 6 less grains of powder.
Post by: et1702 on October 31, 2012, 02:03:47 PM
Lots of good info here! I have a Rem Model 673 in 300 SAUM. Since it is a short action, I have been considering converting the gun to a 6.5 Creedmore. Is this possible? If so, is it just a barrel change? Sorry, not trying to highjack the thread, just interested in the 6.5 Creedmore, as it appears easier to reload than the 6.5 Laupa.
Thanks,
ET
Post by: high country on October 31, 2012, 02:22:20 PM
Lots of good info here! I have a Rem Model 673 in 300 SAUM. Since it is a short action, I have been considering converting the gun to a 6.5 Creedmore. Is this possible? If so, is it just a barrel change? Sorry, not trying to highjack the thread, just interested in the 6.5 Creedmore, as it appears easier to reload than the 6.5 Laupa.
Thanks,
ET
The ultra based action is not the best start. The bolt face is too big and the feed rails may not like the creed.
Post by: high country on October 31, 2012, 02:25:16 PM
In theory, the 6.5-284 is more accurate than a 6.5 based off the 06 case due to its shorter powder column. I'd pick the 6.5-284 over a 6.5-06 or 6.5-06AI because there is zero extra work involved with a 6.5-284. No necking down or fire forming. Just load and shoot!
If you could get good tough Lapua brass for the 264 I think it would be capable of more FPS but with the brass that is currently available for the 264 it can't be pushed very hard before you stretch the primer pockets. The 6.5-06 or 6.5-284 with Lapua brass will shoot right with a 264 winnie but with 6 less grains of powder.
The benefit to the 6.5-06 is that it feeds slick as snot every time, there is no issues of cold weather ignition failures and the micro difference in accuracy is exactly that. If you want to see amazing, look at the 6.5 lapua, creed and 260imp....them little buggers get a lot done in a small package.
Post by: et1702 on October 31, 2012, 02:25:56 PM
Lots of good info here! I have a Rem Model 673 in 300 SAUM. Since it is a short action, I have been considering converting the gun to a 6.5 Creedmore. Is this possible? If so, is it just a barrel change? Sorry, not trying to highjack the thread, just interested in the 6.5 Creedmore, as it appears easier to reload than the 6.5 Laupa.
Thanks,
ET
The ultra based action is not the best start. The bolt face is too big and the feed rails may not like the creed.
What about the Rem 260? or another 6.5 caliber that would work with the Model 7 Rem action?
Thanks,
ET
Post by: high country on October 31, 2012, 03:09:20 PM
Post by: coachcw on November 01, 2012, 06:43:13 AM
Post by: Salmo on November 01, 2012, 06:18:14 PM
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on November 01, 2012, 07:56:04 PM
1 in 8 twist is the best bet for the 6.5 i'm getting 3100 with the 140's and rl19 out of a long action in 6.5x284 :tup:
My bad, 3190 with a 140.....
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on November 01, 2012, 08:03:48 PM
Post by: Salmo on November 01, 2012, 08:56:49 PM