Post by: swwaoutdoorsman on November 13, 2012, 07:46:31 PM
Post by: Mudman on November 13, 2012, 07:56:54 PM
Post by: swwaoutdoorsman on November 13, 2012, 08:01:33 PM
Post by: deerslyr on November 13, 2012, 08:03:20 PM
I live in silverlake and spent lots of time in the toutle and margret. I've seen lots of nice bulls and in my experience I have only seen a few that would possibly hit the 300" mark. Just wondering if anyone has actually killed anything in last couple years in the toutle or Margaret that would reach that mark.
I havent seen anything over 270 posted on this sight coming from either the margaret or toutle that I can think of?
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 13, 2012, 08:13:28 PM
Post by: gotcha on November 14, 2012, 05:09:03 AM
Post by: sirmissalot on November 14, 2012, 05:35:29 AM
Post by: chad s. on November 14, 2012, 06:15:13 AM
Post by: gotcha on November 14, 2012, 06:24:59 AM
Post by: bucklucky on November 14, 2012, 08:47:21 AM
Post by: akirkland on November 14, 2012, 09:05:47 AM
These are rosies. Were talking totally different type of elk here. Any who. There in there I can tell ya that.Rosies :yike: :violent1:
Post by: Mike450r on November 14, 2012, 09:08:56 AM
UMMM, They are not Roosies .
:yeah: A lot of people tend to think any western Wa. elk is a roosevelt. Go into the Margaret and take some pictures of elk, then go down to South Bend and take some pictures of elk. Compare the two sets of pictures and you will see the difference.
Post by: Huntbear on November 14, 2012, 09:41:55 AM
That said, if you want a bruiser bull in the Margaret, you are going to have to go into the backcountry and spend some days. My brother has pictures of a 7x9 bull that would easily go 1000 lbs, just this last summer. You just have to know where to look.
Yes, they cross back and forth from the Loowit to the Margaret, and back... they know where they are safe.
IF you want to be able to walk 1/4 mile from the truck and shoot a great bull in the Margaret, you will be sorely disappointed. If you are willing to go 3-6 miles in on some steep rough country and be picky, you can shoot a masher. Those bulls know where the pressure comes from, and they avoid it like the plague. There are elk up there that have never seen a human...
Post by: sirmissalot on November 14, 2012, 10:25:34 AM
Post by: Huntbear on November 14, 2012, 10:30:51 AM
Been that way for a long long time. My buddies 4x4 last year had typical Rocky Mtn. antlers... My brothers this year had typical Rosie antlers, but with a more Rocky Mtn. body type.. True rosies will crown at the top after they get so big... Rocky Mtn. elk do not.
Post by: kentrek on November 14, 2012, 10:37:17 AM
my budy got a 280 (giver or take) bull with a longbow tho
Post by: gotcha on November 14, 2012, 02:14:23 PM
Post by: mrmoskillz on November 14, 2012, 02:51:16 PM
Post by: bowhunterty on November 14, 2012, 04:24:09 PM
Post by: deerslyr on November 14, 2012, 04:52:40 PM
this is why its called a cascade rosie..
my budy got a 280 (giver or take) bull with a longbow tho
pics :dunno:
Post by: kentrek on November 14, 2012, 05:00:49 PM
this is why its called a cascade rosie..
my budy got a 280 (giver or take) bull with a longbow tho
pics :dunno:
im not gona post pics of his bull,sorry
great bull tho with a long bow,like 7 yard shot, it had mostly a rocky mtn horn set up
Post by: gotcha on November 14, 2012, 05:25:10 PM
Post by: kentrek on November 14, 2012, 05:29:12 PM
Post by: gotcha on November 14, 2012, 05:38:05 PM
Post by: lokidog on November 14, 2012, 05:38:39 PM
Post by: JCKILLSHOT on November 14, 2012, 05:45:47 PM
Post by: kentrek on November 14, 2012, 05:47:39 PM
Ya that's him. We were in same area. We got ours as well in that same class. He is a big dude. He got lucky and meet the right people to take him in by vehicle if ya know what I mean.
congrats on your bull, but ya i havnt even heard the story from him or his caller yet so ill understand then, thats not surprising they got lucky an sweet talked somebody for a ride tho :chuckle:
Post by: lokidog on November 14, 2012, 05:52:06 PM
If I'm threadjacking too much, please let me know OP.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on November 14, 2012, 05:54:33 PM
So here's a real Margaret Bull, not 300 but is it a rosie or mix and what makes you think that? I do have a pic of one I would guess would go 350 shot w/in 1/2 mile of the main road, but I am having a hard time finding my scanned copy.:tup: :tup:
If I'm threadjacking too much, please let me know OP.
Post by: lonedave on November 14, 2012, 09:02:19 PM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi174.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fw107%2Flonedave%2F2012%2520hunting%2FDSCN1851.jpg&hash=e260665fc58b04d654cdd4d73153b35a297f2dbb)
Post by: Mudman on November 15, 2012, 06:42:55 AM
Post by: fireweed on November 16, 2012, 04:07:05 PM
Post by: Huntbear on November 16, 2012, 04:21:35 PM
Thats a good toutle bull, congrats! My dad and I had a real nice 6x6 scouted out but he was shot the second day in the Loowitt. Bummer. He did pass a few spikes and never got his bull. Thats fine because he wanted a mature bull. NOT A GIMMIE TAG. Winston is probably better, just more hunters. :twocents:
If someone shot that bull in the Loowit, I certainly hoped you called it in and reported a poaching... the Loowit is closed to all hunting, trapping, etc.. has been since the mountain blew up.
As for the backcountry, my brother and I watched a huge bull bedded down behind a log... his whale tail was huge, and that was thru 10x binos at over 1200 yards... brother was seriously drooling about wanting a Margaret tag.. Not sure why you folks can not find the big bulls, but they are there, if you know where to look...
Post by: Mudman on November 16, 2012, 04:40:44 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on November 16, 2012, 04:44:16 PM
Thats a good toutle bull, congrats! My dad and I had a real nice 6x6 scouted out but he was shot the second day in the Loowitt. Bummer. He did pass a few spikes and never got his bull. Thats fine because he wanted a mature bull. NOT A GIMMIE TAG. Winston is probably better, just more hunters. :twocents:
If someone shot that bull in the Loowit, I certainly hoped you called it in and reported a poaching... the Loowit is closed to all hunting, trapping, etc.. has been since the mountain blew up.
The tribes still hunt the Loowit.
Post by: Huntbear on November 16, 2012, 04:49:45 PM
Another hunter told us the guy had a mudflow tag? Second hand knowledge so im not presuming he poached. I hope he was legit. Gold ford 150 2002ish. Nice bull but maybe a 300 bull. I havent ever seen a monster st helens bull, including the guys laying in the mudflow/loowitt.
Lets talk once the antlers start growing again next year... will give you some great spots.. make sure you take a very good camera.
Post by: Mudman on November 16, 2012, 04:55:03 PM
Post by: swwaoutdoorsman on November 18, 2012, 04:55:17 AM
Had the Whittier tag this year. Saw 50-75 bulls in that unit and in the Loowit/Margaret nearby. Nothing even approaching 300. Only a very few 6x6. And nothing in the unit worth packing out. Did pass up a medium 5x6 first day. Seems the bigger bulls I've seen killed this year are more "in the brush" on farms at lower elevations. It is strange that the high country, where hunting is very limited didn't have any big bulls. Biggest bull I have seen was an even 7x7 wintered at Coldwater around 1993. Got him on video. USFS named him Bruce.:yeah:
Post by: Mudman on November 18, 2012, 09:09:26 AM
Post by: Bluesdude on November 19, 2012, 11:18:25 AM
Had the Whittier tag this year. Saw 50-75 bulls in that unit and in the Loowit/Margaret nearby. Nothing even approaching 300. Only a very few 6x6. And nothing in the unit worth packing out. Did pass up a medium 5x6 first day. Seems the bigger bulls I've seen killed this year are more "in the brush" on farms at lower elevations. It is strange that the high country, where hunting is very limited didn't have any big bulls. Biggest bull I have seen was an even 7x7 wintered at Coldwater around 1993. Got him on video. USFS named him Bruce.
Hey Fireweed, did you have the modern Bull tag for Whittier? if so, My brother and I talked to you and your wife/girlfriend on Opening day 10/20. We had his cow elk already and talked to you briefly in the snow at our camp off the lakes trail.
Todd
Post by: Bob33 on November 19, 2012, 11:35:14 AM
If someone shot that bull in the Loowit, I certainly hoped you called it in and reported a poaching... the Loowit is closed to all hunting, trapping, etc.. has been since the mountain blew up.The Whittier elk permit is in Loowit. Cougar hunting is also allowed in Loowit.
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Post by: lokidog on October 30, 2015, 08:12:08 AM
Beautiful bull. I know the guy that got it. I believe he was actually after a different one when this one came to him. Right above the hiway.
I had him at about 80 yards up the road from me, circled to get ahead and discovered he dove into a bowl. I decided to cut below him in case he was trying to get under the bridge. Having seen the hunter, and I think two buddies up above, I figured if I busted him, I might push the bull past the guy. I think he had a 20 yard shot on it. It was nice of him to let me get a photo with it. Do you know what it scored? He was lucky he had two guys with him as that thing was a monster in body size as well.
Post by: swwaoutdoorsman on October 31, 2015, 10:54:10 AM
Finally found the picture of the bull I pushed to another hunter in 2001 in Margaret. This thing was huge as I could not reach my smallish hands around the bases.
Is the 350" bull you referred to earlier in this threa?
Post by: swwaoutdoorsman on October 31, 2015, 10:56:22 AM
Margret this year. What do think he scores. For reference im 6'5" 330lbs.
225-230"
Post by: lokidog on October 31, 2015, 11:03:15 AM
Finally found the picture of the bull I pushed to another hunter in 2001 in Margaret. This thing was huge as I could not reach my smallish hands around the bases.
Is the 350" bull you referred to earlier in this threa?
It was the photo I was looking for, I'm no good at scoring and he was bigger in my memory. ;)
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