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Title: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: denali on November 13, 2012, 10:10:48 PM
“We’ll manage them,” Peone said. “We’re not in a position where we can allow our ungulate populations to drop to a point where it’s not providing that sustenance opportunity for our membership. There’s a constant need for elk, deer and moose meat. I think it’s wrong not to manage wolves.”

Sirous’s comments were similar.

“It’s about being in balance,” he said. “If you remove all the predators from the equation you’ll find other impacts happen as well. Nature has a good way of setting up that balance for us to follow.”

Krausz was equally adamant.

“There’s definitely a need to manage these animals, and we know that,” he said. “We’re not going to sit idly by and cross our fingers and hope for the best. I’m ultimately responsible for managing big game and providing subsistence opportunities for tribal members and their families for the long haul. That includes managing predator populations, whether it’s black bear, gray wolf or cougar.”

Krausz was equally adamant. “There’s definitely a need to manage these animals and we know that. We’re not going to sit idly by and cross our fingers and hope for the best. I’m ultimately responsible for managing big game and providing subsistence opportunities for tribal members and their families for the long haul. That includes managing predator populations whether it’s black bear, gray wolf or cougar.

I wish we could hear similar straight talk from the WDFW. but after being beaten down on the Wedge pack issue I don't expect to any time soon :bash:







http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2012/11/12/colville-tribes-manage-wolves-with-own-program-145337 (http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2012/11/12/colville-tribes-manage-wolves-with-own-program-145337)
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: KFhunter on November 13, 2012, 10:12:11 PM
where do I get a permit to hunt the rez for wolf?  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: TommyH on November 13, 2012, 10:30:12 PM
This is big, this is great! Its a step WDFW will have to follow.......or should!
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: Killmore on November 14, 2012, 08:26:40 AM
Kodo's to the Colville's
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: Skillet on November 14, 2012, 08:30:39 AM
Can the tribes manage predators on all "ceeded lands" or just their designated reservations?  If they can manage on ceeded lands...
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: cem3434 on November 14, 2012, 08:32:54 AM
Tim's a good dude and if he says they are going to manage them, then the wolves are going to get the hurt put on them.  :IBCOOL: I hope the Natives kill them all!
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: pianoman9701 on November 14, 2012, 08:34:46 AM
This is big, this is great! Its a step WDFW will have to follow.......or should!

It's nice to have dreamers on HuntWA! If only.
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: Special T on November 14, 2012, 11:47:07 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing how this turns out... I hope the Colville tell everyone when they catch a collard animal so that we can try and hold the WDFW/ USFS accountable.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: BuckNAze on November 18, 2012, 06:33:28 PM
Theyre working on being able to hunt wolves on the north half. Hopefully the plan goes into effect as i know where some are. Sure br nice to.get a wolf pelt! The north half may be in the future when thr state decides to manage them
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 26, 2012, 06:34:00 PM
Theyre working on being able to hunt wolves on the north half. Hopefully the plan goes into effect as i know where some are. Sure br nice to.get a wolf pelt! The north half may be in the future when thr state decides to manage them

You know who to get ahold of for the north half, remember !
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: PlateauNDN on November 27, 2012, 09:42:15 AM
good for them and i'm slowly waiting to hear about our future hunting capabilities.  I'd love to pay a visit to the teanaway pack some time in the future, since it's the only confirmed pack in our area.  I'd like a black pelt wolf headdress. :tup:
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: boneaddict on November 27, 2012, 11:19:05 AM
The difference when the man heading the wildlife department is a HUNTER

Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: HuntNFish on November 27, 2012, 11:31:32 AM
The difference is when the man heading the wildlife department is a HUNTER

Couldn't have said it better myself.
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: JoeE on November 29, 2012, 04:15:33 AM
Joe Peone is a hell of a hunter. I've never seen a better collection of trophies than he and his boys have at their home. I think boneaddict posted some of their pictures on here a long time ago. I'm glad the tribe is actually planning on doing something about the wolves.
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: bearpaw on November 29, 2012, 04:21:46 AM
The difference is when the man heading the wildlife department is a HUNTER

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 :yeah:

Joe will keep the wolves at a compatable level.  :tup:
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 29, 2012, 06:13:58 AM
Well, Peone is the head Tribal Game Warden too. I bet most on here don't know that.
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: bearpaw on November 29, 2012, 06:26:10 AM
Well, Peone is the head Tribal Game Warden too. I bet most on here don't know that.

I think many do know that. If not, they do now.  :chuckle:

I wished Joe was one of the top managers in Olympia, the guy knows how to provide opportunity for his people.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 29, 2012, 07:04:50 AM
Well, Peone is the head Tribal Game Warden too. I bet most on here don't know that.

I think many do know that. If not, they do now.  :chuckle:

I wished Joe was one of the top managers in Olympia, the guy knows how to provide opportunity for his people.  :twocents:

I just thought I'd put that out there so people can't say this guy doesn't know squat.  :tup:
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: BuckNAze on November 29, 2012, 07:05:54 AM
As far as I know Joe is not head of the game wardens dept. Natural Resource officers are through a different dept. That being said Im hoping to go get me a wolf this weekend or sometime in the near future. I know where theyve been hanging out
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: boneaddict on November 29, 2012, 07:08:36 AM
I thought Finley was.
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: bearpaw on November 29, 2012, 07:09:53 AM
As far as I know Joe is not head of the game wardens dept. Natural Resource officers are through a different dept. That being said Im hoping to go get me a wolf this weekend or sometime in the near future. I know where theyve been hanging out

I'm not sure what his title is, but I wished he was working in Olympia!  :tup: :tup: :tup:

I hope you get a couple wolves, good luck.  :tup:
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: bearpaw on November 29, 2012, 07:11:34 AM
As far as I know Joe is not head of the game wardens dept. Natural Resource officers are through a different dept. That being said Im hoping to go get me a wolf this weekend or sometime in the near future. I know where theyve been hanging out

When you are ready to wolf hunt you should ask on here for recent sightings, I know that I will offer any current info that I know.  :hello:
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: boneaddict on November 29, 2012, 07:15:11 AM
My only beef with Joe at this point in life is that he is after the Methow for hunting( I suppose adding it to the Ceded land). I mean I can't really fault him for trying or sticking to their mission statement....

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Mission:
The Fish & Wildlife Department’s overall goal is to maintain and protect viable populations of native and desired non-native species of fish and wildlife, and their supporting habitats, while providing sufficient numbers to meet the cultural, subsistence, recreational and economic needs of the tribal membership.
 • To acquire land (Tribal and private) to manage for the sole benefit of selected species

....but I really don't think we need more tribal issues.
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: jackmaster on November 29, 2012, 07:24:19 AM
i will be honest i dont always agree with some of the tribal stuff, especially when it comes to netting salmon, but i can tell you this i hope other tribes follow suit and start "managing wolves" to, hell i would be happy to tag along just to pack it out for ya, or if you get tired of gunning then maybe i could whack a few  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: boneaddict on November 29, 2012, 07:26:21 AM
Wolves and sealions.......   Our departments won't do anything about them
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: PlateauNDN on November 29, 2012, 04:40:42 PM
My only beef with Joe at this point in life is that he is after the Methow for hunting( I suppose adding it to the Ceded land). I mean I can't really fault him for trying or sticking to their mission statement....

Quote
Mission:
The Fish & Wildlife Department’s overall goal is to maintain and protect viable populations of native and desired non-native species of fish and wildlife, and their supporting habitats, while providing sufficient numbers to meet the cultural, subsistence, recreational and economic needs of the tribal membership.
 • To acquire land (Tribal and private) to manage for the sole benefit of selected species

....but I really don't think we need more tribal issues.

We have a similar clause like that and it pertains to all Ceded Land that was once the territories of the 14 Confederated Tribes and Bands of the Yakama Nation.  There are allotments that are outside of our Ceded Areas that were held either privately or by the Tribe itself that were "re-acquired" by the State or Counties that are also being sought by the Tribe to buy back. 

There are Tribes not only in WA. State but across the country that are slowly and piece by piece buying back land that was once theirs before it was "acquired" by the Government and expanding their reservations.  It's a long and grueling process and I have family members that have bought homes and land and have gone through the process for years to get it brough into Trust under the Tribe.  Lots of paperwork and years of waiting and more paperwork before the process can be finalized.

Almost forgot, good luck BuckNaze and post up pics if you get one. :tup:  better get ahold of some friends and family up there and see if they're going to partake in this so I can tag along. :tup:
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: huntnphool on November 29, 2012, 04:54:40 PM
Well, Peone is the head Tribal Game Warden too. I bet most on here don't know that.
:chuckle:
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on November 29, 2012, 05:16:58 PM
Im glad the tribes are planning to do what the Wdfw is not willing to do hopefully they can make a serious dent in the population, and curtail further damage to the herds in their area.
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: KFhunter on November 29, 2012, 05:19:27 PM
I wonder if the wolf groups would have standing to petition a federal judge to stop it.
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 29, 2012, 05:20:50 PM
As far as I know Joe is not head of the game wardens dept. Natural Resource officers are through a different dept. That being said Im hoping to go get me a wolf this weekend or sometime in the near future. I know where theyve been hanging out

........and I've always thought for 12 years he was. Thanks for setting me straight.   :tup:
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: inchtowntracking on November 29, 2012, 05:58:01 PM
As far as I know Joe is not head of the game wardens dept. Natural Resource officers are through a different dept. That being said Im hoping to go get me a wolf this weekend or sometime in the near future. I know where theyve been hanging out

........and I've always thought for 12 years he was. Thanks for setting me straight.   :tup:

Yes we are under a different program. We are part of the parks and recreation. Joe is the head of fish and wildlife. They make the rules and we enforce them.
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 29, 2012, 07:18:15 PM
As far as I know Joe is not head of the game wardens dept. Natural Resource officers are through a different dept. That being said Im hoping to go get me a wolf this weekend or sometime in the near future. I know where theyve been hanging out

........and I've always thought for 12 years he was. Thanks for setting me straight.   :tup:

Yes we are under a different program. We are part of the parks and recreation. Joe is the head of fish and wildlife. They make the rules and we enforce them.

Thanks Mark !!  :tup:
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on November 29, 2012, 07:36:06 PM
Big  :tup: for Peone!!!!! :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: boneaddict on November 29, 2012, 07:40:12 PM
My Uncle was the head of wildlife for a long time, and Joe was the head of Fish, as stated, I think they are one now, and Joe is the head of them.   My uncle is the one that brought elk back to the rez.   I got to see the process in Kodachromes one night.  The genetics of the one particular bull they brought in was UNREAL! 
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: MtnMuley on November 29, 2012, 09:33:41 PM
Hmmm....is Joe even employed by the tribe anymore? ;)
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: huntnphool on November 29, 2012, 09:37:15 PM
Hmmm....is Joe even employed by the tribe anymore? ;)
:chuckle:
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: JoeE on November 29, 2012, 10:37:50 PM
Yes Joe still works for the tribe. What am I missing here?
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: huntnphool on November 29, 2012, 11:12:52 PM
Yes Joe still works for the tribe. What am I missing here?
are you sure?
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: JoeE on November 29, 2012, 11:26:47 PM
No, I'm not sure now?
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: inchtowntracking on December 01, 2012, 06:29:21 PM
 Going out tomorrow hopefully I can put the foxpro to work.
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: PlateauNDN on December 02, 2012, 10:36:26 AM
Did I miss something???  You guys are already hunting those mutts?  Better make a few calls and see if I can tag along with somebody.
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: bearpaw on December 02, 2012, 10:50:49 AM
Going out tomorrow hopefully I can put the foxpro to work.

Put your rifle to work too... :tup:
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: inchtowntracking on December 02, 2012, 04:10:43 PM
Yeah it opened up this last week. I hit some of the popular spots and couldn't get any answers and no tracks to be found.
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: boneaddict on December 02, 2012, 05:33:56 PM
I think alot of them had some preseason trimming.   I didn't run into NEARLY the amount of sign I did last year.  No encounters or sightings.
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: Ridgeratt on December 02, 2012, 05:35:15 PM
Yeah it opened up this last week. I hit some of the popular spots and couldn't get any answers and no tracks to be found.

How far North can you Roam?
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: inchtowntracking on December 02, 2012, 06:13:37 PM
One guy seen eight not to long ago. And they stayed right there, and didn't act scared. From what the new regs say it is just on the Rez righ now from what I understand.
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: inchtowntracking on December 02, 2012, 06:14:48 PM
I think alot of them had some preseason trimming.   I didn't run into NEARLY the amount of sign I did last year.  No encounters or sightings.

Curious to hear where u was seeing them at.
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: huntnphool on December 02, 2012, 07:25:35 PM
Hmmm....is Joe even employed by the tribe anymore? ;)
JoeE, where you at?
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: JoeE on December 03, 2012, 10:54:35 PM
I'm right here. My contact over there is my dad in Inchelium and he hasn't heard anything about it, but It looks like he definetely did get fired though I still don't know what for..
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: PlateauNDN on December 04, 2012, 09:08:50 AM
 :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:  guess who's going to be tagging along and hopefully filming a wolf hunt with a Colville relative??????  I can't wait to get the call and hopefully get on film a wolf hunt........ :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: Colville Tribes Manage Wolves With Own Program
Post by: huntnphool on December 04, 2012, 09:22:03 AM
:IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:  guess who's going to be tagging along and hopefully filming a wolf hunt with a Colville relative??????  I can't wait to get the call and hopefully get on film a wolf hunt........ :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:
That would be cool Plat. :tup:
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