Post by: Tman on November 17, 2012, 03:59:27 PM
Post by: Tonasketstickflinger on November 17, 2012, 04:01:41 PM
Post by: RifleRidge on November 17, 2012, 04:12:22 PM
Where we are from we have a neighbor that lives on a county road and his house is the only house on the county road... sits right in the middle of prime hunting.
The county allows him to gate it and lock it to keep hunters out!..this road is surrounded by several 100's of acres containing Prime elk and deer hunting...
We scouted it one day and kinda wondered why we could not be allowed to hunt the county land, as we are tax payers like every other home owner is...... :dunno:... just my :twocents:
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 17, 2012, 04:20:00 PM
Unless somebody actually shoots an animal, you should try to not let it get to you.
Post by: dscubame on November 17, 2012, 04:23:07 PM
Sounds like what a "Sunday drive" is all about.
Post by: sled on November 17, 2012, 04:25:02 PM
Sorry but i think that most people are doing just that. :twocents:
Post by: JimmyHoffa on November 17, 2012, 04:32:19 PM
Post by: dscubame on November 17, 2012, 04:36:05 PM
Second cry me a river icon in less than 30 sec., on a roll.
Post by: deaner on November 17, 2012, 04:37:18 PM
Post by: 206 on November 17, 2012, 04:39:38 PM
Post by: dscubame on November 17, 2012, 04:40:30 PM
Post by: GEARHEAD on November 17, 2012, 04:59:32 PM
i got one arrested last year for loaded gun in vehicle and trespass. this year i got two arrested, both for same. i hunt trespassing road hunting slobs as much as i hunt deer. becoming a hobby in my neck of the woods for alot of us. finally getting some enforcement out here. cant wait for the decoy next year.....you know who you are, im sure a few of you are on here, that was your only warning.
Post by: RifleRidge on November 17, 2012, 05:02:12 PM
I am always hunting......always.
:tup: I will be talking my husband and say to him " Does not matter what time of the year it is, I
am always looking for deer , must be in my blood " :dunno:
Post by: RifleRidge on November 17, 2012, 05:04:28 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on November 17, 2012, 05:09:16 PM
I am always hunting......always.:chuckle: Hunting season is always...the seasons in the regs are the killing seasons.
Post by: Jingles on November 17, 2012, 05:13:02 PM
Don't feel bad I have little or no use for road hunters either.
Yes it is nice tpo be scouting deer year round but don't be an azzhat and scout on private property unless you have permission ahead of time then don't be a lazy azzhat and at least get out of your da*ned vehicle
Post by: dscubame on November 17, 2012, 05:17:57 PM
Post by: GEARHEAD on November 17, 2012, 05:32:17 PM
Post by: dscubame on November 17, 2012, 05:33:02 PM
the intent is clear, if its during a hunting season and i suspect the wearing of orange even involved, they are hunting. glassing is what you say when you get questioned by a local, or by law enforcement. oh, i forgot, another common one i get, is , i'm just looking for cell phone reception.
Could not disagree more.
Post by: Tman on November 17, 2012, 05:58:44 PM
Post by: Antlershed on November 17, 2012, 06:01:06 PM
the intent is clear, if its during a hunting season and i suspect the wearing of orange even involved, they are hunting. glassing is what you say when you get questioned by a local, or by law enforcement. oh, i forgot, another common one i get, is , i'm just looking for cell phone reception.So if I am on my way home from hunting and see a deer in someones field I can't even stop to look at it? What if it is a nice buck and I just want to look at him? Do I have to take my orange off first or is it still not ok since it is during hunting season? :rolleyes:
Post by: Tman on November 17, 2012, 06:01:23 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 17, 2012, 06:15:27 PM
and...the original thread was not intended to simply sound like i have an issue with glassing my property. Its the constant traffic of guys in orange vests driving up and down my road turning around and sitting in front of my driveway when the whole dang road is private. I know the intent and frankly dont care for it. It isnt hunting...
They must be from the Seattle area............ :chuckle: and never have seen a deer.
Post by: GEARHEAD on November 17, 2012, 06:23:10 PM
Post by: dscubame on November 17, 2012, 06:41:54 PM
dscu.. So I suppose it would be alright with you if me and a few buds put on our orange and sat in your driveway?
On the public road in front of my property ok, but not in my driveway. I see it year around but not necessarily the orange part just during hunting season.
Post by: Hunterman on November 17, 2012, 06:44:46 PM
:IBCOOL: It ain't hunting unless it's from a road :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Hunterman(Tony)
Post by: Cascade_fisher on November 17, 2012, 06:46:07 PM
and...the original thread was not intended to simply sound like i have an issue with glassing my property. Its the constant traffic of guys in orange vests driving up and down my road turning around and sitting in front of my driveway when the whole dang road is private. I know the intent and frankly dont care for it. It isnt hunting...
If its private put up a gate with a sign. It's not like hunting season is very long in this state so it wouldn't be that big an inconvenience to me if it bothers you that bad.
Post by: Buckslaya on November 17, 2012, 07:00:19 PM
Post by: jrebel on November 17, 2012, 07:07:29 PM
Post by: 400out on November 17, 2012, 07:10:10 PM
Post by: RifleRidge on November 17, 2012, 07:10:57 PM
Always looking at game! Don't care where it is!
:tup: :yeah:
Post by: Antlershed on November 17, 2012, 07:27:42 PM
Ya'll should get off his case, he's not saying that people are stopping to look at a deer standing out in his yard, he is saying they are stopping and glassing his yard. There is a big difference.So if I use the naked eye it is ok, but as soon as I use binoculars I am hunting? Just want to make sure I have all the "rules" down...
Post by: RifleRidge on November 17, 2012, 07:29:15 PM
Ya'll should get off his case, he's not saying that people are stopping to look at a deer standing out in his yard, he is saying they are stopping and glassing his yard. There is a big difference.So if I use the naked eye it is ok, but as soon as I use binoculars I am hunting? Just want to make sure I have all the "rules" down...
I thought some rules were meant to be broken.... :dunno: :twocents:
Post by: 400out on November 17, 2012, 07:32:53 PM
I live at the end of a county road. I cant even keep track of how many hunters drive up and down the road at 5mph. THEN STOP AND GLASS MY FIELD. Whats the deal? Why would any hunter drive up and down roads that are completely private property, then glass property they dont have permission to hunt. What the heck, gonna shoot a deer in my front yard!!! I might lose my mind if it continues. Sorry guys. Had to vent. :bash:Must take him a long time to mow :dunno:
Post by: 400out on November 17, 2012, 07:35:15 PM
Post by: bradslam on November 17, 2012, 07:42:03 PM
Post by: scout/sniper on November 17, 2012, 07:43:44 PM
Sorry it sounds to me like someone that has land and doesn't like poeple to drive down the county rd and look at the deer in his land! Get over it and used to it cause no matter what is said I'll never stop doing it! maybe just open it to hunting :dunno:This attitude is why my property and most others will never be open to the public.
Post by: MountainWalk on November 17, 2012, 07:46:04 PM
Post by: jrebel on November 17, 2012, 07:51:27 PM
Post by: HornHoarder on November 17, 2012, 07:52:26 PM
Post by: idahohuntr on November 17, 2012, 08:45:39 PM
Now, if folks are poaching, hang em' high...but I will tell you that I often drive county roads and glass wildlife on private land. I might even be wearing orange if I'm driving between hunting spots. Bottom line, most hunters have a passion for wildlife and enjoy seeing game even if they know they can't shoot it. Since the wildlife and the roads are owned and managed with public resources...I see no good reason for private landowners to complain about legal wildlife viewing.
Post by: deaner on November 17, 2012, 08:47:40 PM
my area is south of spokane about 20 miles, 90 percent of the hunters, a term i use loosely are intending to trespass and drive around all day with that intent.. this year one even decided to get into a head on collision with a neighbor. i hate their guts frankly.just because somebody is looking at deer doesnt mean theyre hunting. id never shoot from a truck or trespass to take an animal but damn it i love to look at deer
i got one arrested last year for loaded gun in vehicle and trespass. this year i got two arrested, both for same. i hunt trespassing road hunting slobs as much as i hunt deer. becoming a hobby in my neck of the woods for alot of us. finally getting some enforcement out here. cant wait for the decoy next year.....you know who you are, im sure a few of you are on here, that was your only warning.
Post by: bankwalker on November 17, 2012, 08:48:28 PM
I live on a "road" which is more of a driveway to my house and neighbors horse barn....my house is the only house. And its ALL private property around my house. My neighbors property is posted every 20 yards "no trespassing""no hunting" and he has timber. My side of the road is all cattle pasture that is posted.
We get a few people who drive down and turn around during hunting season. And they all creep down the road watching the timber on my neighbors property. It is extremely well posted property but people still watch it like they're hunting.
We've even had a couple guys get out, jump the fence, and walk past the timber to look at the elk through the trees up on his clear cut hill. All while I sat right there shooting my bow on his property (I have permission to be there, and hunt....if he'd take the no hunting signs down :drool: )...these guys didn't care that I might have been the land owner as I sat 50yds from them jumping the fence and walking 200yds onto private property.
I never mind the people who drive down the road because it's a road. And I don't mind the people watching for animals.........BUT i do mind what I see people do after they see the animals they are looking for. It blows my mind at times
Post by: Jingles on November 17, 2012, 08:54:53 PM
Post by: RifleRidge on November 17, 2012, 08:57:44 PM
Post by: RoyBoy on November 17, 2012, 09:00:55 PM
I could be wrong and please correct me if I am. I thought somehow that if the property is posted " no hunting" even the land owner by law could not hunt that land either... Some guy from the local NRA was talking to me about that... Just hear say, speculation... :dunno:
yeah that use to be the law atleast. i think it still is.
Post by: lokidog on November 17, 2012, 09:04:02 PM
It is well established that wildlife is owned by the people of the state. If folks are driving down a public road looking at public wildlife that happens to be standing on private land....too bad for the sniveling landowner! Those people driving on that county road...they pay taxes to build and maintain that road...if they want to drive up and down it that is their choice.
Now, if folks are poaching, hang em' high...but I will tell you that I often drive county roads and glass wildlife on private land. I might even be wearing orange if I'm driving between hunting spots. Bottom line, most hunters have a passion for wildlife and enjoy seeing game even if they know they can't shoot it. Since the wildlife and the roads are owned and managed with public resources...I see no good reason for private landowners to complain about legal wildlife viewing.
:yeah:
If, indeed, it is a dead end road, and all properties are private along it, and this viewing bothered me, I'd get together with my neighbors and put up a big sign at the entrance to this road that there is no public access and all land is private.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on November 17, 2012, 09:19:50 PM
Post by: deaner on November 17, 2012, 09:22:04 PM
Post by: RoyBoy on November 17, 2012, 09:25:32 PM
okay tman, say youre driving down a rural road to your hunting area, and out of the side of your eye you see a bunch of deer in somebodys field, youre telling me you wont slow down to look? and if you do slow down to look and see antler, you wont stop and glass? come on now. looking and shooting are two completely different things.
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah:
Post by: predatorpro on November 17, 2012, 09:36:03 PM
Post by: Deep Forks on November 18, 2012, 04:18:09 AM
I wonder how some of these folks that see nothing wrong with it or better yet stop on the road when no traffic is around run over into the ditch and take a dump would like it if we came over thir neighborhoods and *censored* in their yards Yes it happens. Wish I had a way to get addresses for license plates because I would do just that and leave a message returned the favorIf someone stopped on a road like you describe they need to be slapped, held until the LEO's arrive and committed to a moron halfway house. I can't fathem this being done, but have seen proof of such ignorance. :bash: So yes there are morons that do the unthinkable, but pulling over to glass or observe a critter isn't one of them. :twocents:
Post by: elkhunter00 on November 18, 2012, 05:53:26 AM
I could be wrong and please correct me if I am. I thought somehow that if the property is posted " no hunting" even the land owner by law could not hunt that land either... Some guy from the local NRA was talking to me about that... Just hear say, speculation... :dunno:
yeah that use to be the law atleast. i think it still is.
It's not the law, if I put up a sign that said "no littering", could I then not have a garbage pile on my own land?
Post by: arees on November 18, 2012, 06:53:10 AM
1) Does this private property border some public land that the animal might also be using?
2) Is the animal good enough to make it worth finding the land owner out of season and asking for permission to hunt during a future year?
3) Does this area have good genetics that make it worth concentrating on the surrounding public land?
4) Am I blocking traffic?
There is a big gap between reality and everyone driving near your house is a g-d poacher.
Post by: scout/sniper on November 18, 2012, 06:59:55 AM
i always stop and glass out across fields when i am driving, its perfectly legal and i enjoy looking at deer and other animals in peoples fields, how are you suppose to find good spots and go ask for permission? not every piece of private property is owned by someone who hates people looking at deer in their field and even allow people to hunt on itIt's not the people who just want to observe that are the problem.
My friend up the road has property visible from the road that always has elk in it. Every year some jackhole parks in front of his house and walks up there with a rifle and has to be led out at gunpoint. This puts us on alert to anyone who stops and glasses property.
We don't call the sheriff up here!
Post by: 400out on November 18, 2012, 07:13:58 AM
Now that makes sense, trespassers! Not lookers, do I need to repost the OP :dunno: It clearly stated : stopped in the road anD glassed my field!i always stop and glass out across fields when i am driving, its perfectly legal and i enjoy looking at deer and other animals in peoples fields, how are you suppose to find good spots and go ask for permission? not every piece of private property is owned by someone who hates people looking at deer in their field and even allow people to hunt on itIt's not the people who just want to observe that are the problem.
My friend up the road has property visible from the road that always has elk in it. Every year some jackhole parks in front of his house and walks up there with a rifle and has to be led out at gunpoint. This puts us on alert to anyone who stops and glasses property.
We don't call the sheriff up here!
I feel your pain but it's part of where we live, I have a similar problem with the local cats cruising the fence and scoping out the herds of birds on my land! :bash: :bash: :bash: I have put up signs and even ran them off! They know I don't like them! The other day the wife called me and said that a group had clossed my fence and killed something! I raced home but the damage was done and they were gone :bash: :bash: Now I just wait until I see one then I run outside like a drunken hillbilly yelling every name I can think of!
I hate them cats
Post by: scout/sniper on November 18, 2012, 07:21:41 AM
How high are your signs?
I hate them cats
I had this problem and found that the signs were too high. Try putting them about 3" above the ground where the cats can see them while stalking.
It helped me.
Post by: netcoyote on November 18, 2012, 07:38:35 AM
Maybe you should sell your land and move to the city. Sorry, but thats part of country and rural living. Gonna have to get used to it.
MountainWalk nailed it. I've got land in a suburb. Can't remember the last time a couple guys in a pickup, dressed in orange stopped in front of my house and glassed my front yard. I got other complaints that go along with suburban living. No place is perfect. You guys with large parcels should be thankful for what you have.
That said, I certainly am NOT condoning trespassing or shooting across someone's property. Anyone doing that should be punished to the fullest extent. But getting upset about someone looking at wild game in your field is a waste of energy. Get over it.
Post by: predatorpro on November 18, 2012, 08:22:50 AM
why do you care if some one is looking at a frikkin animal? i understand the trespassing part thats obvious! but getting mad at someone looking is stupid, thats like the jerk that starts a fight with someone cuz they looked at them wrong...hope i never get ran down by you while im looking at a nice animal! god forbid us hunters like watching wildlife...i always stop and glass out across fields when i am driving, its perfectly legal and i enjoy looking at deer and other animals in peoples fields, how are you suppose to find good spots and go ask for permission? not every piece of private property is owned by someone who hates people looking at deer in their field and even allow people to hunt on itIt's not the people who just want to observe that are the problem.
My friend up the road has property visible from the road that always has elk in it. Every year some jackhole parks in front of his house and walks up there with a rifle and has to be led out at gunpoint. This puts us on alert to anyone who stops and glasses property.
We don't call the sheriff up here!
Post by: Hunting7mm on November 18, 2012, 10:09:38 AM
Post by: 400out on November 18, 2012, 10:46:57 AM
Post by: Curly on November 18, 2012, 10:49:36 AM
I could be wrong and please correct me if I am. I thought somehow that if the property is posted " no hunting" even the land owner by law could not hunt that land either... Some guy from the local NRA was talking to me about that... Just hear say, speculation... :dunno:
yeah that use to be the law atleast. i think it still is.
Never been a law like that in this state that I know of.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on November 18, 2012, 10:54:30 AM
I've never read the actually law that is claimed for this, but have heard about it. Supposedly it even keeps the landowners from hunting their own land, so they would post the 'no hunting without written permission' and then just not give anyone permission.I could be wrong and please correct me if I am. I thought somehow that if the property is posted " no hunting" even the land owner by law could not hunt that land either... Some guy from the local NRA was talking to me about that... Just hear say, speculation... :dunno:
yeah that use to be the law atleast. i think it still is.
Never been a law like that in this state that I know of.
Post by: Curly on November 18, 2012, 11:19:27 AM
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on November 18, 2012, 11:43:51 AM
Post by: NWBREW on November 18, 2012, 12:39:55 PM
I can understand stopping, and glassing some animals if you pass through an area heading to your destination. I do the same thing, but it seems that some people cannot contain themselves if they have a weapon in the vehicle. I have three nice holes in my 3D deer target in my backyard because some *censored* couldn't contain himself. I huntSome guy will drive though miles of private property glassing the deer then they cannot contain themselves when they see a nice buck so they figure they can shoot it, and no one will know any different. the eastside on private property, and this happens almost daily with the landowners propertys we hunt. I am sure most people are respectful, but there are enough idiots out there to make anyone who has property that holds animals pretty damn defensive about anyone hanging out around our places scoping out animals.
That was the case this weekend at my place in the NE corner. >:( >:( >:( >:( Yes, I called it in and Yes, it is being adderessed.
I have even drove down the driveway only to find a gut pile at the bottom....shot from the road I am sure of.
Post by: Rdnkgirl88 on November 18, 2012, 02:44:57 PM
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on November 18, 2012, 09:21:18 PM
I can understand stopping, and glassing some animals if you pass through an area heading to your destination. I do the same thing, but it seems that some people cannot contain themselves if they have a weapon in the vehicle. I have three nice holes in my 3D deer target in my backyard because some *censored* couldn't contain himself. I huntSome guy will drive though miles of private property glassing the deer then they cannot contain themselves when they see a nice buck so they figure they can shoot it, and no one will know any different. the eastside on private property, and this happens almost daily with the landowners propertys we hunt. I am sure most people are respectful, but there are enough idiots out there to make anyone who has property that holds animals pretty damn defensive about anyone hanging out around our places scoping out animals.
I have seen allot of your posts about this with the penalities getting more tuff for these guys lets hope the word gets out when a few get popped. It is really out of control in some areas the land we hunt in the S.E. isn't anywhere near public land, or feel free to hunt. That didn't stop some dumb ass from pulling over to a CRP area my wife, and son were hunting this year, and take three shots at a mule deer doe with them directly behind the deer in orange. Something else for some of you to keep in mind many of these people that have animals shot on their property are non-hunters so they lump us all together when they see you pull up in orange with your bino's out the window you cannot blame them for being hostile.
Post by: scout/sniper on November 19, 2012, 07:29:19 AM
I think you are the one who nailed it.
I have seen allot of your posts about this with the penalities getting more tuff for these guys lets hope the word gets out when a few get popped. It is really out of control in some areas the land we hunt in the S.E. isn't anywhere near public land, or feel free to hunt. That didn't stop some dumb ass from pulling over to a CRP area my wife, and son were hunting this year, and take three shots at a mule deer doe with them directly behind the deer in orange. Something else for some of you to keep in mind many of these people that have animals shot on their property are non-hunters so they lump us all together when they see you pull up in orange with your bino's out the window you cannot blame them for being hostile.
The point of my last post is that anyone stopping and glassing is a potential idiot that will shoot an animal on someones land because it happens all the time. It keeps landowners on their guard.
Post by: hendog on November 19, 2012, 10:44:50 AM
Post by: sebek556 on November 19, 2012, 10:53:33 AM
Post by: scout/sniper on November 19, 2012, 11:30:34 AM
I have a shared driveway, and it honestly looks like a logging road through the woods or something. But after you go in a few hundred yards you see the first home and so on. This year I have seen 6 vehicles with disabled hunter placards flying hunting my driveway :yike: I know no one has given any permission. The one guy I stopped and told him to turn around and get out of here. Yelled at me that I need to learn the regs, he is disabled and can road hunt. I told yah road hunt all you want but not on private property, but still he argued with me that since he was disabled he could do it. He got mad when I pulled out my phone and called the game office put in on speaker and asked them the laws when it comes to disabled hunters. :chuckle::yeah: And yet is a big mystery why we don't want people stopping and casing our property :rolleyes:
Post by: lokidog on November 19, 2012, 01:33:41 PM
Post by: KopperBuck on November 19, 2012, 01:39:57 PM
Not necessarily the same, but similar - fishing on Hayden Lake and had a landowner come flying down the hill to his dock and scream at me that I need to be fishing somewhere else. It was private property. Was calm throughout the situation, asked what I should do. He told me to fish somewhere else. I said so it's ok to fish someone else's dock, but not yours. He then gave me "how would you like it if my boys parked their cars in front of your house." I said "much like our present situation, what they'd bed doing is perfectly legal," and gave him my address. Again, I was calm, until I saw his wife taking pictures of us and my boat from up on the house. LOL.
Post by: huntlakewood on November 19, 2012, 01:47:03 PM
Post by: CedarPants on November 19, 2012, 02:18:43 PM
I live at the end of a county road.
Or does it belong to you as stated later in the discussion?
Its the constant traffic of guys in orange vests driving up and down my road
I think clarifying that point will help with some of the disagreement going on here
Post by: huntnnw on November 19, 2012, 09:37:23 PM
Post by: brokehunter on November 19, 2012, 11:23:57 PM
I live at the end of a county road. I cant even keep track of how many hunters drive up and down the road at 5mph. THEN STOP AND GLASS MY FIELD. Whats the deal? Why would any hunter drive up and down roads that are completely private property, then glass property they dont have permission to hunt. What the heck, gonna shoot a deer in my front yard!!! I might lose my mind if it continues. Sorry guys. Had to vent. :bash:
I am willing to bet that if you put up life-size cut outs of dudes wearing speedos all over your field, that might solve your problem of trucks stopping to glass! Then again, some may stop still anyway :chuckle: :twocents:
Post by: BK Dave on November 19, 2012, 11:28:03 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on November 20, 2012, 02:50:37 AM
Seems there are quite a few shameless road hunters here on this site actually! I find it quite humorous at times.
I don't think that's really what we're witnessing on this thread :dunno:
I've stopped to look at bucks I couldn't shoot before - doesn't make me a road hunter.
Somebody else said something to the effect of, "I don't look at any deer I can't shoot..." Don't you enjoy nature? I have pulled over to watch deer and elk in State Parks, am I a road hunter for that?
When I was ten years old, I only got to hunt for four days because of my dad's work schedule. We saw no bucks on our hunting land. He took me to a "No Hunting" field one afternoon so I got to see some deer and practice with my binoculars. Pretty harmless examples :dunno:
Post by: BK Dave on November 20, 2012, 01:32:26 PM
Seems there are quite a few shameless road hunters here on this site actually! I find it quite humorous at times.
I don't think that's really what we're witnessing on this thread :dunno:
I didn't necessarily mean this thread, just in general. I recall a couple other threads recently boasting road kills an all the adda boys' related.
I would guess that 75% of hunters don't hike more than 1/2 mile from they're trucks...
Post by: JLS on November 20, 2012, 01:39:43 PM
I've never read the actually law that is claimed for this, but have heard about it. Supposedly it even keeps the landowners from hunting their own land, so they would post the 'no hunting without written permission' and then just not give anyone permission.I could be wrong and please correct me if I am. I thought somehow that if the property is posted " no hunting" even the land owner by law could not hunt that land either... Some guy from the local NRA was talking to me about that... Just hear say, speculation... :dunno:
yeah that use to be the law atleast. i think it still is.
Never been a law like that in this state that I know of.
This is absolutely false. A landowner can post his land "No Hunting" and allow whatever Tom, Dick or Harry to hunt it, himself included.
Post by: Curly on November 20, 2012, 02:10:15 PM
:yeah:I've never read the actually law that is claimed for this, but have heard about it. Supposedly it even keeps the landowners from hunting their own land, so they would post the 'no hunting without written permission' and then just not give anyone permission.I could be wrong and please correct me if I am. I thought somehow that if the property is posted " no hunting" even the land owner by law could not hunt that land either... Some guy from the local NRA was talking to me about that... Just hear say, speculation... :dunno:
yeah that use to be the law atleast. i think it still is.
Never been a law like that in this state that I know of.
This is absolutely false. A landowner can post his land "No Hunting" and allow whatever Tom, Dick or Harry to hunt it, himself included.
It's just one of those myths that seem to get repeated (for whatever reason) and a lot of people believe it to be true.
Post by: scout/sniper on November 20, 2012, 02:21:09 PM
1/2 Mile? You are being very generous!
I would guess that 75% of hunters don't hike more than 1/2 mile from they're trucks...
Post by: BK Dave on November 20, 2012, 02:24:34 PM
Ya got me! I was trying not to rattle to many cages....1/2 Mile? You are being very generous!
I would guess that 75% of hunters don't hike more than 1/2 mile from they're trucks...
500yrds might be more accurate?
Post by: JimmyHoffa on November 20, 2012, 02:35:54 PM
:yeah:I hear about this one often.
It's just one of those myths that seem to get repeated (for whatever reason) and a lot of people believe it to be true.
Like I said, though, I've never read anything to confirm it (cause it doesn't exist :dunno:). None of the laws I've read about it I've found have made any mention of it. Just one of those things I hear a lot but can't find the B&W text on. In a way like how many people swear to me there are laws that state baiting deer is illegal--but at least I know where to go for the law that says it isn't to confirm for myself.
Post by: 724wd on November 20, 2012, 04:14:28 PM
Ya got me! I was trying not to rattle to many cages....1/2 Mile? You are being very generous!
I would guess that 75% of hunters don't hike more than 1/2 mile from they're trucks...
500yrds might be more accurate?
and that's a problem, why? shoot, one area i hunt there isn't 500 yards between roads. not everyone hikes in 20 miles for a deer. some of us hunt farmland with roads all over and shoot pretty nice deer! :dunno:
Post by: MtnMuley on November 20, 2012, 04:18:21 PM
Post by: wafisherman on November 20, 2012, 04:19:58 PM
Seems there are quite a few shameless road hunters here on this site actually! I find it quite humorous at times.
I don't think that's really what we're witnessing on this thread :dunno:
I've stopped to look at bucks I couldn't shoot before - doesn't make me a road hunter.
Somebody else said something to the effect of, "I don't look at any deer I can't shoot..." Don't you enjoy nature? I have pulled over to watch deer and elk in State Parks, am I a road hunter for that?
When I was ten years old, I only got to hunt for four days because of my dad's work schedule. We saw no bucks on our hunting land. He took me to a "No Hunting" field one afternoon so I got to see some deer and practice with my binoculars. Pretty harmless examples :dunno:
I slow down to check out deer as well. Show the kids and all that jazz. But I do the speed limit unless I see something I want to check out... But sounds like these guys are already crawling along glassing the private property. To me, that is kinda odd, and I can see how you'd think you could be dealing with poachers in that context. I'd definately consider setting out a fake deer and then put up a few trail cams near the road and near the deer... :tup:
Post by: BK Dave on November 20, 2012, 04:46:16 PM
Not a problem, just an observation :-pYa got me! I was trying not to rattle to many cages....1/2 Mile? You are being very generous!
I would guess that 75% of hunters don't hike more than 1/2 mile from they're trucks...
500yrds might be more accurate?
and that's a problem, why? shoot, one area i hunt there isn't 500 yards between roads. not everyone hikes in 20 miles for a deer. some of us hunt farmland with roads all over and shoot pretty nice deer! :dunno:
Post by: furiouzgeorge on November 20, 2012, 07:59:53 PM
Post by: BK Dave on November 20, 2012, 08:03:41 PM
Post by: furiouzgeorge on November 20, 2012, 08:04:46 PM
I am a redneck
I have rubber-necked deer (it's a bit hard not to when you're training your eyes to spot them)
The only road hunters I tolerate have orange placards on their windshields (my Dad).
LAST SNOBBY REMARK:
There is PLENTY of time in the off season to stop and glass deer, and I'll bet most land owners wouldn't mind it if it wasn't happening ten times a day.
Post by: idahohuntr on November 20, 2012, 08:56:30 PM
How would these folks feel if you glassed their living-rooms?
Oh...where to start. Your analogy above is entirely inappropriate and demonstrates that you have little understanding of the North American model of wildlife conservation. As I've stated previously, IF someone shoots a deer illegally (from the road, on private land etc.) then hang em high. HOWEVER, if they are on a public road watching PUBLIC wildlife then who are you or any landowner to judge them? I'm a taxpaying citizen and if I want to drive on the public's roads and view the public's wildlife that is my prerogative. Your statement that viewing wildlife from a road portrays hunters in a bad light may not be accurate...I think it shows that hunters have a sincere interest in wildlife...even if they can't harvest them (assuming of course they keep it to just watching and don't cross the line and illegally harvest one). To compare viewing wildlife owned by the PUBLIC with someone viewing a privately owned living room is completely misguided. We all own the wildlife...an individual(s) owns the living room. This is not Europe where wildlife is owned by some monarch, this is the USA. Many private landowners live where they do to enjoy wildlife, why should they be the only ones who get to enjoy this PUBLIC resource? Maybe these landowners should consider how fortunate they are to live where they do and not complain if others want to enjoy wildlife in a non-consumptive manner. Have I clearly made my point that the wildlife is OWNED BY THE PUBLIC!!! :bash:
Post by: BK Dave on November 20, 2012, 09:26:51 PM
Seems instead of doing your own homework and putting in the hard work or scouting and planning need not apply. It's a liberal belief that's what's yours is mine and what's mine is mine own.
Guessing you voted for Obama...
Post by: JLS on November 20, 2012, 09:27:13 PM
How would these folks feel if you glassed their living-rooms?
Oh...where to start. Your analogy above is entirely inappropriate and demonstrates that you have little understanding of the North American model of wildlife conservation. As I've stated previously, IF someone shoots a deer illegally (from the road, on private land etc.) then hang em high. HOWEVER, if they are on a public road watching PUBLIC wildlife then who are you or any landowner to judge them? I'm a taxpaying citizen and if I want to drive on the public's roads and view the public's wildlife that is my prerogative. Your statement that viewing wildlife from a road portrays hunters in a bad light may not be accurate...I think it shows that hunters have a sincere interest in wildlife...even if they can't harvest them (assuming of course they keep it to just watching and don't cross the line and illegally harvest one). To compare viewing wildlife owned by the PUBLIC with someone viewing a privately owned living room is completely misguided. We all own the wildlife...an individual(s) owns the living room. This is not Europe where wildlife is owned by some monarch, this is the USA. Many private landowners live where they do to enjoy wildlife, why should they be the only ones who get to enjoy this PUBLIC resource? Maybe these landowners should consider how fortunate they are to live where they do and not complain if others want to enjoy wildlife in a non-consumptive manner. Have I clearly made my point that the wildlife is OWNED BY THE PUBLIC!!! :bash:
Amen brotha! :tup:
So it's okay for me to cruise the roads scoping out wildlife as long as it's not hunting season :rolleyes:
Post by: JLS on November 20, 2012, 09:28:50 PM
Yes here in the PNW everybody has adopted a behavior of entitlement!
Seems instead of doing your own homework and putting in the hard work or scouting and planning need not apply. It's a liberal belief that's what's yours is mine and what's mine is mine own.
Guessing you voted for Obama...
That's one of the silliest things I've read. Today, I went scouting so I could be supercool and put in my hard work just like all of the really cool superhunters. On the way home I had the AUDACITY to slow down and glass some deer in an area that I couldn't even hunt. I'm sure I violated somebody, somewhere.... :rolleyes:
Post by: huntnnw on November 20, 2012, 09:30:26 PM
Tman, I've gotta say that I'm ashamed of the response on this thread. Most are ok, but some are really stupid. It's obvious that a few of these guys on here are glassing your field ;-). While I find it perfectly legal, it's not very helpful to the cause of making hunters look less like rednecks who shoot from their trucks!!! We're supposed to be careful about the reputation we portray to the public because we ARE the minority and we can be legislated out of our privilege to hunt in this state, or have that privilege restricted beyond reasonable enjoyment. I'm suspicious of anyone glassing my place whether they are hunters or not. How would these folks feel if you glassed their living-rooms? While I accept the fact that public roads bordering private land should be open for use by all, most public roads are two lane which would make wildlife viewing a bit of a traffic hazard. Not to mention most of the above posters are better off watching the road than rubber-necking to find deer. Let's be honest guys, we've all seen the dude cruising along a field or patch of timber with his head stuck out his window hoping to catch a glimpse of Bambi. It's more than obvious when I see them that they are NOT just into wildlife viewing. I'll give you all the benefit of a doubt and assume that you are, but PLEASE don't further damage the reputation of hunters in the process. If you are hunting please do your leg work before the season starts so you can have ample time to talk to the land-owner without the pressure of an open hunting season looming over you. All in all, maybe Tman's over-reacting. But I've very rarely seen sporting and responsible hunters behind the wheel 'cruising' around other folks property. The sporting and responsible guys are either already quartering their deer or anywhere between 500 yards to 10 miles in!
:yeah: I think the others who are trying to say its legal are trying to justify to themselves that its okay, cause they do it
Post by: BrushChimp on November 20, 2012, 09:36:14 PM
Tman, I've gotta say that I'm ashamed of the response on this thread. Most are ok, but some are really stupid. It's obvious that a few of these guys on here are glassing your field ;-). While I find it perfectly legal, it's not very helpful to the cause of making hunters look less like rednecks who shoot from their trucks!!! We're supposed to be careful about the reputation we portray to the public because we ARE the minority and we can be legislated out of our privilege to hunt in this state, or have that privilege restricted beyond reasonable enjoyment. I'm suspicious of anyone glassing my place whether they are hunters or not. How would these folks feel if you glassed their living-rooms? While I accept the fact that public roads bordering private land should be open for use by all, most public roads are two lane which would make wildlife viewing a bit of a traffic hazard. Not to mention most of the above posters are better off watching the road than rubber-necking to find deer. Let's be honest guys, we've all seen the dude cruising along a field or patch of timber with his head stuck out his window hoping to catch a glimpse of Bambi. It's more than obvious when I see them that they are NOT just into wildlife viewing. I'll give you all the benefit of a doubt and assume that you are, but PLEASE don't further damage the reputation of hunters in the process. If you are hunting please do your leg work before the season starts so you can have ample time to talk to the land-owner without the pressure of an open hunting season looming over you. All in all, maybe Tman's over-reacting. But I've very rarely seen sporting and responsible hunters behind the wheel 'cruising' around other folks property. The sporting and responsible guys are either already quartering their deer or anywhere between 500 yards to 10 miles in!
:yeah: I think the others who are trying to say its legal are trying to justify to themselves that its okay, cause they do it
Ditto.
Post by: BK Dave on November 20, 2012, 09:44:49 PM
Guess I'm usually gettIng back to my truck so long after dark I haven't had much time to road hunt.Yes here in the PNW everybody has adopted a behavior of entitlement!
Seems instead of doing your own homework and putting in the hard work or scouting and planning need not apply. It's a liberal belief that's what's yours is mine and what's mine is mine own.
Guessing you voted for Obama...
That's one of the silliest things I've read. Today, I went scouting so I could be supercool and put in my hard work just like all of the really cool superhunters. On the way home I had the AUDACITY to slow down and glass some deer in an area that I couldn't even hunt. I'm sure I violated somebody, somewhere.... :rolleyes:
But maybe next year I'll get up around noon and head out to my spot and cruse real slow past open farmers fields just incase I see some public critters I can take pictures of wink wink wink
Post by: MTMule on November 20, 2012, 09:52:17 PM
As far as road hunting, not sure why it bothers people so much. Ive killed deer sitting, walking, and driving. All my biggest deer were killed driving in the rut. I hunt out of state mostly, and of all my years experience, there is no better way to hunt the rut if you don't know the area. Especially since not everyone has big farms with 30-40 deer per square mile. Most public lands are lucky to have 10 per square mile.
I personally have no interest in sitting up in the stand all day getting ready to kill bob lucky 8 that I watched and fed since birth, but I sure as hell will drive past and look. If you don't like it, to bad. You dont own the deer or the roads. Not everyone, in fact most arent doing it with the intent to kill.
Post by: MuleyJam on November 20, 2012, 09:55:16 PM
Post by: huntnnw on November 20, 2012, 10:00:52 PM
Post by: BK Dave on November 20, 2012, 10:21:17 PM
I don't see anything wrong with glassing deer in someones field. Especially in Washington when you can go a full day without seeing one.
As far as road hunting, not sure why it bothers people so much. Ive killed deer sitting, walking, and driving. All my biggest deer were killed driving in the rut.
Not everyone, in fact most arent doing it with the intent to kill.
Ummmmmm. Just you then???
Post by: MTMule on November 20, 2012, 10:52:32 PM
Ummmmmm. Just you then???
Not sure what you even mean by that., but I guess you caught me.
If you mean look at deer in someones big field without the intent to kill then yes.
If you mean road hunt on public land and kill big deer yearly, then yes.
I do my fair share of walking, but I always get a kick out of guys walking 5-10 miles a day and must of them never seeing a deer. If you know the deer is there then cool, go after it. If you are out of your area with no scouting, you would have to be out of your mind to start charging over hills blind.
You can call it what you want, but no one can tell me road hunting isnt the best during the rut. Ive killed too many big deer to be told otherwise. Just some advice from an old timer.
Post by: NWBREW on November 21, 2012, 01:42:56 AM
Hmmm. County road. You don't own the wildlife. Better get used to it or move. Completely legal. :twocents:
That is a bunch of BS right there. My place is on a county road....it's paved and is surrounded by private property. What is legal about that?
I guess there are two types of road hunters though. One that drives mountain non maintained roads surrounded by state land and such (more power to them).........and ones that don't care where they are, shoot deer on private property and have no problems about tresspassing. I don't care if they have a tag or not, it is not legal and.......it really pisses me off. I have had my place for 20+ years tell me why I should have to drive into my own place to find a gut pile from a deer shot from a county road. Sorry to vent but that's my :twocents:
I'm all good with the lookers......it is the shooters I have a beef with.
Post by: PolarBear on November 21, 2012, 01:52:29 AM
Post by: NWBREW on November 21, 2012, 01:59:59 AM
The problem is people out driving in all private areas during a open season, a few bad apples have ruined this for people that are completely innocent, but its more than a few bad apples. When u see the same damn rigs doing loops around the area all day long its not hard to figure out what they are doing! they are waiting to see a buck in that right spot where they can shoot. I watched this chit every year where I lived.
You said it right there......it was friken ridiculous. Back and forth, 5 miles per hour over and over again.
Post by: MountainWalk on November 21, 2012, 02:08:21 AM
I live and work on one of the biggest farms in Jefferson county.. Folks are always stopping to check things out. Cows, bulls, ducks. eagles, coyotes, bear, even deer! A lot are hunters. Some are birders, and some just love nature. Hardly any problems. Seems like a lot of the land owners here complaining forget that they are not the only ones who enjoy nature. That deer you see every day does not belong to you. INNOCENT BEFORE PROVEN GUILTY
Post by: PolarBear on November 21, 2012, 02:13:25 AM
Post by: MountainWalk on November 21, 2012, 02:18:44 AM
Post by: scout/sniper on November 21, 2012, 06:20:50 AM
The problem is people out driving in all private areas during a open season, a few bad apples have ruined this for people that are completely innocent, but its more than a few bad apples. When u see the same damn rigs doing loops around the area all day long its not hard to figure out what they are doing! they are waiting to see a buck in that right spot where they can shoot. I watched this chit every year where I lived.:yeah:
Post by: scout/sniper on November 21, 2012, 06:23:21 AM
I don't mind when they pull over or slow down just to look, but when they get out of their rig with guns in hand, yeah, I have a big problem with that.:tup: Amen!
Post by: huntnnw on November 21, 2012, 06:55:06 AM
Post by: idahohuntr on November 21, 2012, 07:42:03 AM
Yes here in the PNW everybody has adopted a behavior of entitlement!This is one of the most absurd things I have ever read. This isn't a stupid political issue. It is not a "liberal belief" that wildlife and county roads are public resources...it is an American belief...and you are backwards on entitlements...why should a landowner get to see deer and use county roads that exist because of my TAX and License dollars?? If thats your argument I could make the case that all private landowners are nothing but welfare recipients getting public resources for virtually free...but I'm not because such an argument is as dumb as what you suggest in your post above. For a THIRD time, if someone illegally kills a deer (from the road, on private land etc.) then hang em high! Some on here seem to be angry landowners who have problems with poachers...I would be mad as hell if someone poached a deer on my land so I am clearly not suggesting that illegally killing a deer is ok. With respect to your comments that I must not scout or work hard when it comes to hunting you are severely misguided. I hunt and SCOUT in multiple western states every year. I have hunted several weeks this year. I have been on 4 successful bull elk hunts and 7 successful deer hunts this year. One bull and one buck were mine, the rest I helped friends and family find, kill, and pack out. I assure you I work and scout and plan as hard as just about anyone can who still has to work for a living. I love hunting and I love seeing wildlife wherever I am at and if I'm on a public road and see wildlife I will probably stop and look at it. If you are a private landowner and don't like that...tell somebody who cares.
Seems instead of doing your own homework and putting in the hard work or scouting and planning need not apply. It's a liberal belief that's what's yours is mine and what's mine is mine own.
Guessing you voted for Obama...
Post by: TheHunt on November 21, 2012, 07:50:41 AM
Correct?
Post by: Jingles on November 21, 2012, 08:04:21 AM
Post by: BK Dave on November 21, 2012, 09:56:02 AM
Ummmmmm. Just you then???
Not sure what you even mean by that., but I guess you caught me.
If you mean look at deer in someones big field without the intent to kill then yes.
If you mean road hunt on public land and kill big deer yearly, then yes.
I do my fair share of walking, but I always get a kick out of guys walking 5-10 miles a day and must of them never seeing a deer. If you know the deer is there then cool, go after it. If you are out of your area with no scouting, you would have to be out of your mind to start charging over hills blind.
You can call it what you want, but no one can tell me road hunting isnt the best during the rut. Ive killed too many big deer to be told otherwise. Just some advice from an old timer.
Ya know I have more respect for the guys that hike those 5-10 miles a day and spend 2-3 yrs between getting an animal. And even when they arrow or shoot a Doe or a Cow 3 miles down in some hell hole and it takes ya 8hours to drag it out to the nearest road, only to have another 2 miles back to the truck. And on that walk you run into the Game Warden who asked you where ya got your critter? And you can look him in the eyes and tell him your story, and he doesn't even question it, because he can see the tired truth of a real hunter.
As apposed to others that blast something from a logging road and quickly load it in there truck or stuff it in the back seat or wait till the cover of darkness. And every once in a to few while, one of you gets pinched. Then ya come on these forums and BITCH about that Mean oll' Gamie who just had it out for you' or it's a "technicality"
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Post by: 724wd on November 21, 2012, 11:25:04 AM
i've road hunted, i've hiked my butt off, i've ridden 4 wheelers all over stubble, i've hunted public and private... and been successful at all of them! you should quit worrying about the other guy and concentrate on your hunt.
as to trespassers and poachers? well, i dont think ANYONE likes them! i'm not advocating shooting an animal in a field you don't have permission to be in, but to get upset about people driving down the county road and stopping to look at animals? really? :bash: maybe they've got a 90 year old man in the rig on his last "hunt" and they want to show him some animals. if there's no guns sticking out the window, give it a rest! :rolleyes:
Post by: BK Dave on November 21, 2012, 11:28:08 AM
Post by: Tman on November 21, 2012, 11:50:48 AM
Huntnw posts nailed it on the head....
Post by: PolarBear on November 21, 2012, 12:05:51 PM
I say leave the road hunting to the elderly, disabled and kids, otherwise if you are able bodied you are just being lazy. :twocents: :peep:
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on November 21, 2012, 12:09:50 PM
That's the one thing the anti's have right...they stick together!
Post by: MountainWalk on November 21, 2012, 12:11:19 PM
Post by: CedarPants on November 21, 2012, 02:39:05 PM
One day everyone here can at least hope to achieve your elite status so that we can look down on others with constant judgement.
Until then, from one fellow hunter to another - Happy Thanksgiving
Post by: MTMule on November 21, 2012, 02:45:48 PM
Ummmmmm. Just you then???
Not sure what you even mean by that., but I guess you caught me.
If you mean look at deer in someones big field without the intent to kill then yes.
If you mean road hunt on public land and kill big deer yearly, then yes.
I do my fair share of walking, but I always get a kick out of guys walking 5-10 miles a day and must of them never seeing a deer. If you know the deer is there then cool, go after it. If you are out of your area with no scouting, you would have to be out of your mind to start charging over hills blind.
You can call it what you want, but no one can tell me road hunting isnt the best during the rut. Ive killed too many big deer to be told otherwise. Just some advice from an old timer.
Ya know I have more respect for the guys that hike those 5-10 miles a day and spend 2-3 yrs between getting an animal. And even when they arrow or shoot a Doe or a Cow 3 miles down in some hell hole and it takes ya 8hours to drag it out to the nearest road, only to have another 2 miles back to the truck. And on that walk you run into the Game Warden who asked you where ya got your critter? And you can look him in the eyes and tell him your story, and he doesn't even question it, because he can see the tired truth of a real hunter.
As apposed to others that blast something from a logging road and quickly load it in there truck or stuff it in the back seat or wait till the cover of darkness. And every once in a to few while, one of you gets pinched. Then ya come on these forums and BITCH about that Mean oll' Gamie who just had it out for you' or it's a "technicality"
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If road hunting isn't your thing then fine. It's an extremely effective way to hunt, and no one can tell me otherwise. As long as you shoot it on public land then I don't see the problem.
Ive killed my biggest blacktail by scouting and walking in on him. Ive killed my biggest whitetail and mule deer by road hunting in the rut. I dont have the time or money to scout out of state and to me it's down right stupid to walk into some place ten miles without knowing whats in there. If thats your thing and you just want to be outdoors. Ok cool, but dont look down on someone who road hunts. The deer are moving a lot during the rut. Covering as much ground as possible is best in my eyes and has worked to great success. You still have to spot it, which I have found most can't, and you still have to get out and put the stalk in on it.
And like I have said before, I have killed deer sitting, walking, and driving for many, many years. Nothing beats road hunting in the rut if you dont know the area. Ive seen it all and don't need any convincing. People have to understand that 90% of the hunters out there road hunt. It truly is that high. You may think you are special by jumping in the woods, but you are not. You are just another hunter. The best you can hope for is the satisfaction of knowing you worked ten times harder, and that is cool with me. I can respect that.
I will say one more thing. I love hunting out of state, and one of the main reasons I choice to road hunt when out of state, besides finding it stupid to walk in blind, or the fact the deer are moving a lot in the rut and its best to cover ground. I LOVE to see all the country. Love driving around and seeing as much land as possible, and YES, LOVE to stop and look at deer in someones farm. Will I stop doing that? No. It's never even crossed my mind to shoot into someones field. Don't let the 1% of illegal hunters out there make you disrespect guys like me.
Post by: BK Dave on November 21, 2012, 03:13:45 PM
Fine, you've said your piece and I mine.
Ummmmmm. Just you then???
Not sure what you even mean by that., but I guess you caught me.
If you mean look at deer in someones big field without the intent to kill then yes.
If you mean road hunt on public land and kill big deer yearly, then yes.
I do my fair share of walking, but I always get a kick out of guys walking 5-10 miles a day and must of them never seeing a deer. If you know the deer is there then cool, go after it. If you are out of your area with no scouting, you would have to be out of your mind to start charging over hills blind.
You can call it what you want, but no one can tell me road hunting isnt the best during the rut. Ive killed too many big deer to be told otherwise. Just some advice from an old timer.
Ya know I have more respect for the guys that hike those 5-10 miles a day and spend 2-3 yrs between getting an animal. And even when they arrow or shoot a Doe or a Cow 3 miles down in some hell hole and it takes ya 8hours to drag it out to the nearest road, only to have another 2 miles back to the truck. And on that walk you run into the Game Warden who asked you where ya got your critter? And you can look him in the eyes and tell him your story, and he doesn't even question it, because he can see the tired truth of a real hunter.
As apposed to others that blast something from a logging road and quickly load it in there truck or stuff it in the back seat or wait till the cover of darkness. And every once in a to few while, one of you gets pinched. Then ya come on these forums and BITCH about that Mean oll' Gamie who just had it out for you' or it's a "technicality"
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If road hunting isn't your thing then fine. It's an extremely effective way to hunt, and no one can tell me otherwise. As long as you shoot it on public land then I don't see the problem.
Ive killed my biggest blacktail by scouting and walking in on him. Ive killed my biggest whitetail and mule deer by road hunting in the rut. I dont have the time or money to scout out of state and to me it's down right stupid to walk into some place ten miles without knowing whats in there. If thats your thing and you just want to be outdoors. Ok cool, but dont look down on someone who road hunts. The deer are moving a lot during the rut. Covering as much ground as possible is best in my eyes and has worked to great success. You still have to spot it, which I have found most can't, and you still have to get out and put the stalk in on it.
And like I have said before, I have killed deer sitting, walking, and driving for many, many years. Nothing beats road hunting in the rut if you dont know the area. Ive seen it all and don't need any convincing. People have to understand that 90% of the hunters out there road hunt. It truly is that high. You may think you are special by jumping in the woods, but you are not. You are just another hunter. The best you can hope for is the satisfaction of knowing you worked ten times harder, and that is cool with me. I can respect that.
I will say one more thing. I love hunting out of state, and one of the main reasons I choice to road hunt when out of state, besides finding it stupid to walk in blind, or the fact the deer are moving a lot in the rut and its best to cover ground. I LOVE to see all the country. Love driving around and seeing as much land as possible, and YES, LOVE to stop and look at deer in someones farm. Will I stop doing that? No. It's never even crossed my mind to shoot into someones field. Don't let the 1% of illegal hunters out there make you disrespect guys like me.
Have a happy Thanksgiving
Post by: PolarBear on November 21, 2012, 05:51:46 PM
PolarBear you crack me up with your constant need to let everyone know that your hunting methods reign supreme as compared to the lazy masses.Whatever, I am superior to nobody! I don't really care how others hunt as long as it is legal. I just have my own standards and they are jut that, my own.
One day everyone here can at least hope to achieve your elite status so that we can look down on others with constant judgement.
Until then, from one fellow hunter to another - Happy Thanksgiving
Happy Thanksgiving!
Post by: predatorpro on November 21, 2012, 06:13:42 PM
geeze! your just a worthless road hunter! how dare you even think you have the right to look at wildlife from a road! who do you think you are GOD? i even walk the highway from wenatchee to quincy to my hunting spot because im so much better than you! :chuckle: lol i hunt a ton of private property...and you wanna know why? because i stopped and glassed it first and then i went and asked for permission and normally get it and shortly after i normally call in a coyote! 8) what a concept! according to some of you on here that pretty much makes me a poaching road hunter some how....how do i live with myself! guess im just a lowlife criminal who needs put in prison for life according to the thought process of some of the people on hereYes here in the PNW everybody has adopted a behavior of entitlement!
Seems instead of doing your own homework and putting in the hard work or scouting and planning need not apply. It's a liberal belief that's what's yours is mine and what's mine is mine own.
Guessing you voted for Obama...
That's one of the silliest things I've read. Today, I went scouting so I could be supercool and put in my hard work just like all of the really cool superhunters. On the way home I had the AUDACITY to slow down and glass some deer in an area that I couldn't even hunt. I'm sure I violated somebody, somewhere.... :rolleyes:
Post by: predatorpro on November 21, 2012, 06:14:46 PM
Post by: furiouzgeorge on November 21, 2012, 07:08:14 PM
Post by: Kowsrule30 on November 21, 2012, 07:50:15 PM
On a funny note a fellow road hunter pulled up while I was boning out a spike on the side of the road.... He asked wth I was doing.... I explained how easy it was to bone out now then load and move all the quarters.... He chuckled and went on to tell me how to load them whole and get them to the butcher!!!
Post by: csaaphill on November 21, 2012, 11:22:38 PM
I'ts not illegal at least not yet and glassing deer just because its on posted land is some how imoral?
Looks like someone want us/me to follow what they think is right an only them.
Did I somehow wake up in Russia or something or China ya they own us but did I?
Me and a friend this year on opening say spoted some deer out behind a fence and still stoped and glassed OMFG.
One was a pretty nice 3pt wanted to shoot but didn't we looked moved on then went somewhere else. Tell me how this is wrong or imoral somehow?
As for the anti roadhunting on here how dare you judge others. Last I looked were all hunters leave the you have to act like me crap alone and stand together. Don't nit pick each other GEEZ!!!!!!!!!!!
You people that do this kind of crap pee me off. Your entitled to your opinion, but what your not entitled to is tell me or others how to act.
Road hunters don't bother me never have I never understand why it does so many others. What that going to be ilegal now? Or glassing deer even if it's on posted land Comon isn't there other issues you can whine about rather than this?
How about writing your legislater about hound hunting and try to get that back. Or if you want to whine and bitch lets talk about the tree hugers on here or stand hunters lets pick on them. Or baiters I bet I can name a whole lot of practisees out there that some people don't like. You pick on others they also have the right to pick back. Hell lets all sign a petition to end bow hunting, or muzle loading. Hell lets go all the way lets all back anti hunting groups and end the whole fricking thing all together. Seems like that is the only way you guys are going to be happy anyhows.
Nit pick the whole thing down to what you guys like and we all lose. Up to you though. :twocents:
Post by: csaaphill on November 21, 2012, 11:34:48 PM
actually ya that lets do that lets make it law saying if you post land no huntign then you can't hunt neither. :tup: :tup: :tup: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:I could be wrong and please correct me if I am. I thought somehow that if the property is posted " no hunting" even the land owner by law could not hunt that land either... Some guy from the local NRA was talking to me about that... Just hear say, speculation... :dunno:
yeah that use to be the law atleast. i think it still is.
Let me say I bet all you people say that glassing at deer on county or public road is somehow wrong would shut up huh?
Post by: predatorpro on November 21, 2012, 11:36:16 PM
I suposed to care or follow this why?i agree! all these anti road hunters on here i gurantee have shot an animal while driving to a spot, even tho they act like they never have! they are full of crap! im really gettin sick of this site and all the arrogant narcistic people on it that all they do is bitch about EVERYTHING! everyone is entitled to a rant here and there....but bitching cuz someone drove down a public road and stopped is getting stupid....i seriously doubt every person you see stop on YOUR public road is some tweaker staking out your house! or some poacher! have you had anything stolen lately that would have anything to do with the people stopping on the road? have you had any recent poachers that you have seen poach anything on your property? you live in a world full of other people incase you didnt know so get use to seeing them! cuz people will be driving down YOUR road tell the end of time, im thinkin i might just go drive down your road and stop every 200 yards and look for deer!
I'ts not illegal at least not yet and glassing deer just because its on posted land is some how imoral?
Looks like someone want us/me to follow what they think is right an only them.
Did I somehow wake up in Russia or something or China ya they own us but did I?
Me and a friend this year on opening say spoted some deer out behind a fence and still stoped and glassed OMFG.
One was a pretty nice 3pt wanted to shoot but didn't we looked moved on then went somewhere else. Tell me how this is wrong or imoral somehow?
As for the anti roadhunting on here how dare you judge others. Last I looked were all hunters leave the you have to act like me crap alone and stand together. Don't nit pick each other GEEZ!!!!!!!!!!!
You people that do this kind of crap pee me off. Your entitled to your opinion, but what your not entitled to is tell me or others how to act.
Road hunters don't bother me never have I never understand why it does so many others. What that going to be ilegal now? Or glassing deer even if it's on posted land Comon isn't there other issues you can whine about rather than this?
How about writing your legislater about hound hunting and try to get that back. Or if you want to whine and bitch lets talk about the tree hugers on here or stand hunters lets pick on them. Or baiters I bet I can name a whole lot of practisees out there that some people don't like. You pick on others they also have the right to pick back. Hell lets all sign a petition to end bow hunting, or muzle loading. Hell lets go all the way lets all back anti hunting groups and end the whole fricking thing all together. Seems like that is the only way you guys are going to be happy anyhows.
Nit pick the whole thing down to what you guys like and we all lose. Up to you though. :twocents:
Post by: PolarBear on November 21, 2012, 11:43:53 PM
Post by: csaaphill on November 22, 2012, 12:15:18 AM
I don't see anything wrong with glassing deer in someones field. Especially in Washington when you can go a full day without seeing one.Hey man didn't you kill that one big mofo mule deer and post it here seems like I seen it.
As far as road hunting, not sure why it bothers people so much. Ive killed deer sitting, walking, and driving. All my biggest deer were killed driving in the rut. I hunt out of state mostly, and of all my years experience, there is no better way to hunt the rut if you don't know the area. Especially since not everyone has big farms with 30-40 deer per square mile. Most public lands are lucky to have 10 per square mile.
I personally have no interest in sitting up in the stand all day getting ready to kill bob lucky 8 that I watched and fed since birth, but I sure as hell will drive past and look. If you don't like it, to bad. You dont own the deer or the roads. Not everyone, in fact most arent doing it with the intent to kill.
I beleive if so you did admitt to road hunting him? Nice and I beleive some of the purists on here like your deer didn't they not sure I can dig it up but think some on here may have said so.
If I'm wrong then sorry but ya your right it has it's place. I've actually only killed deer out in the woods or fields. all feel free to hunt though not posted or doing anything ilegal. :tup:
Some of the best ways were to cut a track then go after it. Oh well nice to see someone defend our right to glass. and or road hunt if that's what someone likes.
Post by: Tman on November 22, 2012, 10:45:18 AM
But for those of you that think its ok to road hunt pvt farmlands, what the hell makes you think thats ok? How about I drive by your front yard where your kids play and hunt. wtf...really? pleas post your addresses so we can start. If you want property to hunt, move out of the city, or enjoy the lands that are legally available.
Post by: GEARHEAD on November 22, 2012, 10:53:34 AM
Post by: MountainWalk on November 22, 2012, 10:57:01 AM
Post by: csaaphill on November 22, 2012, 10:57:57 AM
the thread wasnt originally intended to turn into a bashing of road hunters. If you wanna road hunt in timberland or other public property, enjoy, I wont have to share the woods with ya.Your post was about glassing not road hunting. Glassing deer isn't ilegal even on pvt land. its the others that started a rant on road hunting and all.
But for those of you that think its ok to road hunt pvt farmlands, what the hell makes you think thats ok? How about I drive by your front yard where your kids play and hunt. wtf...really? pleas post your addresses so we can start. If you want property to hunt, move out of the city, or enjoy the lands that are legally available.
As far as I know noone hasn't said tresspassing was ok just glassing and that is what you originally said.
Post by: ICEMAN on November 22, 2012, 11:00:42 AM
IMHO, county roads which run through private tracts of land are there for all of us to use. If I see an amazing site on your personal private property and I choose to stop and put my window mount scope on the animals, this is my perogative as a tax payer. Please to not assume that I am intending to break a law.
Are wild game animals the private property owners personal property, or the general publics wildlife?
Post by: PolarBear on November 22, 2012, 11:01:05 AM
Post by: BK Dave on November 22, 2012, 11:02:55 AM
Here in Western Wa. We don't need anymore Bad publicity, why push the envelope?
Post by: csaaphill on November 22, 2012, 11:08:01 AM
Post by: B-Nut on November 22, 2012, 11:12:53 AM
In the end,
Poaching = :bdid:
Watching awesome wildlife = :tup:
Post by: JimmyHoffa on November 22, 2012, 11:21:49 AM
IMHO, county roads which run through private tracts of land are there for all of us to use. If I see an amazing site on your personal private property and I choose to stop and put my window mount scope on the animals, this is my perogative as a tax payer. Please to not assume that I am intending to break a law.Yes, but if you just assume nobody is breaking the law....then the lawbreakers get a pass. It is a pita to stop what you are doing every time you hear a car slowing down or stopping out by the road.
So, even if you're not in a rural area...say downtown puketropolis and you hear a car pull up in your driveway or in the street in front of your house...then hear car doors, people talking, the dogs barking, etc.; do you check it out or just assume it is just people up to lawful activities. So, when you check these things they could be the meter reader, a survey crew, long-lost buddies, magazine salespeople, mormons, tweekers casing the joint, mailman, hunters....and on and on. In most people's cases this might be a once a week occurence so not really a huge disruption. I think I deal with this maybe 2-3 times a week--no huge inconvenience. If you don't keep checking then the tweekers/poachers eventually get their window of opportunity--missing gas cans, lawn mower is gone, firewood disappears, animal gets shot in your yard, car gets prowled, neighbor gets burglarized. Now during deer season imagine you have cars stopping 10-12 times a day--it gets old having to break from your project to have to go check and see what all the commotion is about outside. I still think the OP might want to just plant some kind of privacy screen along that fence line.
Post by: runamuk on November 22, 2012, 11:31:57 AM
Can't we all just get along? :chuckle:NO
:)
Post by: PolarBear on November 22, 2012, 11:38:27 AM
Post by: boneaddict on November 22, 2012, 11:42:06 AM
Post by: csaaphill on November 22, 2012, 11:43:41 AM
Post by: MtnMuley on November 22, 2012, 11:46:34 AM
Strictly talking about filming and taking pictures. My comment is not directed about hunting these animals. Sorry if it was misleading.Hmmm. County road. You don't own the wildlife. Better get used to it or move. Completely legal. :twocents:
That is a bunch of BS right there. My place is on a county road....it's paved and is surrounded by private property. What is legal about that?
I guess there are two types of road hunters though. One that drives mountain non maintained roads surrounded by state land and such (more power to them).........and ones that don't care where they are, shoot deer on private property and have no problems about tresspassing. I don't care if they have a tag or not, it is not legal and.......it really pisses me off. I have had my place for 20+ years tell me why I should have to drive into my own place to find a gut pile from a deer shot from a county road. Sorry to vent but that's my :twocents:
I'm all good with the lookers......it is the shooters I have a beef with.
Post by: MtnMuley on November 22, 2012, 11:48:45 AM
I have 0 animals on my walls mounted in any fashion from any sort of road hunting..its not hunting in my eyes and what the definition means to myself..it means homework, scouting and preparation..to each his own
Exactly the same way I feel about killing deer over bait. Just as legal as road hunting, but not "hunting" in my eyes..to each his own. ;)
Post by: PolarBear on November 22, 2012, 11:53:14 AM
Post by: grundy53 on November 22, 2012, 12:02:57 PM
It's this same ignorant attitudes of entitled Lazy hunters that ruin it for everybody, these are the very same folks that drag all there Trash TVs and old Fridges out into the Public woods, shoot the Ish out of them, then Complain when the roads get all gated up!!
Here in Western Wa. We don't need anymore Bad publicity, why push the envelope?
It's these same ignorant statements that lump a whole group of people together then accuse them of committing various crimes that make "TRUE GOD LIKE HUNTERS" sound like pompous asses. Get over yourself and your holier then thou attitude.
Happy Thankshiving all!
Post by: coachcw on November 22, 2012, 12:03:46 PM
Post by: runamuk on November 22, 2012, 12:11:05 PM
Oh come on! I guess that I will not honk at you when I come through your town on the second. Ptthhhhhhh........ :P:chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on November 22, 2012, 12:30:30 PM
Post by: PolarBear on November 22, 2012, 12:34:10 PM
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on November 22, 2012, 12:37:28 PM
Post by: grundy53 on November 22, 2012, 12:38:26 PM
The woods would be too crowded without road hunters...:yeah:
Post by: WDFW Hates ME!!! on November 22, 2012, 01:01:42 PM
But what we real hunters don't really think about is how crowded it would really be with the road hunters in the woods.
Post by: grundy53 on November 22, 2012, 01:09:52 PM
I actually love road hunters, they push the critters deep into isolated pockets where I will be waiting for them. the problem with road hunters is after hauling your big buck towards your truck, waiting for them to pass so they don't see you coming out of the woods with a big buck. They tend to want to ask you a ton of questions or will park right next to you and follow your trail in and hunt your spot. :chuckle::chuckle:
Post by: romaknows on November 22, 2012, 01:10:46 PM
Post by: Rdnkgirl88 on November 22, 2012, 05:40:50 PM
Lets not forget there are lots of oldtimers and people who just cant hike around, that driving roads is their only option , they deserve to be out just as much everyone else. :tup:
Post by: BK Dave on November 22, 2012, 05:57:37 PM
A person is guilty of unlawful use of a loaded firearm if the person negligently shoots a firearm from, across, or along the maintained portion of a public highway (RCW 77.15.460).
It is unlawful to shoot a bow and arrow from a vehicle or from, across, or along the maintained portion of a public highway. See WAC 232-12-054.
Persons with a disabled hunter permit may shoot from a vehicle if the hunter is in compliance with WAC 232-12-828, Hunting of game birds and animals by persons of disability.
A public highway is one maintained specifically for the use of the public, REGARDLESS OF SURFACE.
Shooting from a private road is legal if access has been granted by the landowner and other firearm restrictions and safety issues have been addressed.
What part of those Law is so confusing? I've been 20miles back on Logging roads and have seen deer and grouse decoy traps set up by LEOs! I'm just dumb founded that Anybody thinks its legal? Why are we even having this argument!!!!!
Post by: grundy53 on November 22, 2012, 06:16:59 PM
Post by: MountainWalk on November 22, 2012, 06:19:23 PM
Post by: boneaddict on November 22, 2012, 06:48:32 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on November 22, 2012, 06:49:59 PM
Why did someone lock this, I was enjoying the people watching.
:yeah: :dunno:
Post by: boneaddict on November 22, 2012, 06:51:20 PM
Post by: csaaphill on November 22, 2012, 10:34:01 PM
ok lock it already
Post by: PolarBear on November 22, 2012, 10:59:40 PM
Post by: csaaphill on November 23, 2012, 12:00:40 AM
Wait until you have a group of "hunters" park in your driveway to glass deer or elk in your field and leave their trash behind. Like I said before, I don't have a problem if you are cruising down the county road or stop in the road but when you pull in my driveway you are trespassing and we have enough tweekers breaking into places around here that if you are parked in my posted "private drive" expect to get a visit from me.\lol look in my drive way all you want nothing here but mexicans. er one or two whitepeople lol.
ya thats fair I wouldn't drive down a pvt drive anyhows. I might walk down it to ask permission though.
Post by: scout/sniper on November 23, 2012, 05:25:57 AM
Wait until you have a group of "hunters" park in your driveway to glass deer or elk in your field and leave their trash behind. Like I said before, I don't have a problem if you are cruising down the county road or stop in the road but when you pull in my driveway you are trespassing and we have enough tweekers breaking into places around here that if you are parked in my posted "private drive" expect to get a visit from me.:yeah: Bad people always cast a shadow on the good ones.
Post by: boneaddict on November 23, 2012, 01:16:34 PM