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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: Glockster on November 21, 2012, 10:11:29 AM
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Harvest vs. Kill....what do you call it and why?
I kill deer, ducks, grouse, geese, snipe, rabbits, fish and shellfish every year. I harvest tomatoes and buy the rest of my vegetable matter from he store.
I enjoy killing and eating deer the most.
Personally I believe we should call it what it is....killing....it is what we really do. It also puts a deer on the level of a tomato in terms of "specialness", for lack of a better term. Why are hunters of all people afraid to call it what it really is?
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:chuckle: :chuckle: i don't really pay attention. but i definately don't say harvest... the pheasant is not a damb pumpkin!! :chuckle: :chuckle:
i usually say,... "I went hunting and SHOT a pheasant"
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Being from Arkansas, I do not say killed. More like "kilt".
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harvest is more PC
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:yeah: :chuckle: I never say harvest. It is usually shot, but once in a while I will say killed.
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:yeah: :chuckle: I never say harvest. It is usually shot, but once in a while I will say killed.
:yeah:
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I say, and this is not correct grammar, "I got a deer".
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No, I "catch" all of my animals. :chuckle: I say that I "got's me a deer" or I shot (with a gun) or stuck (with a bow) and leave it at that. I found that if there are any liberals in the room that the word "killed" brings them into the conversation in a negative way, then the whole thing goes down hill fast.
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I'll say harvest if talking to a non-hunter. Otherwise shot, arrowed, bagged, dumped, dropped, slammed, whacked, or killed.
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I just said this in another post :chuckle:
I say Kill, Killin, Kilt, Bloodlust, Slaughter, Stuck, Shot, Murder, Mayhem, Destroy, All the above. Never say harvest...ever. We all call it and deal with things differently.
I work in Oregon with a bunch of tree hunggin hippies , so I like messin with people and tell them if I don't get the Bloodlust out of my system during hunting season I'm gunna have go slaughter all the animals in a pet store...They get all twisted up about me saying that...I find it funny they get twisted up. they all like the deer meat I bring in though, odd how that works.
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usually by the time you hike 50 mile in search of one you wanna Kill it !
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I only say harvest if it dies in my garden.
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Sometimes I say "I harvested a state raised free range deer". Most of the time I say "I got a deer", or " I shot a deer", ect....
To me "harvest" is more fitting because it comes with the thoughts of using and eating what was harvested.
"killed" is more in line with carp, rats, moles, mice, coyotes, ect..... Those critters that you kill with no real intent on using them.
But either is fine for me. Seems a bit like splitting hairs. In the end its dead, and I'm going to eat it.
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I LOVE it when a lib-tard jumps into one of my hunting conversations with their smarter, holier than thou attitudes :IBCOOL:
I have converted 3 of them this year alone. Honestly, most of them are highly educated, just sheltered and mis informed city dwellers with no concept of where food comes from. Most of them believe we kill animals and just take the "trophy" souvenir horns. I could see where someone would get that impression based on all the hunting TV hero shows out there.....none of them show any gutting, butchering or meat care, or other 'dirty work' whatsoever.
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harvest is more PC
LOL, I think I said, "Hey I got a deer." last year after I called up my uncle to tell him. This year I am switching to, "I murdered that sumeb..."
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Kill. If it was a deer I raised on my farm with specific food plots and bedding areas set up to grow deer I would probably consider it harvesting.
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Kill, because that is what it is. I even say kill when pulling something out of the garden because that is what is happening. :dunno:
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Kill.... I don't use a rifle, shotgun, bow, ect, to harvest my corn...
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I say killed or shot..The only time I PC is when I'm on my Personal Computer..
Hunterman(Tony)
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Kill.... I don't use a rifle, shotgun, bow, ect, to harvest my corn...
And if I did my wife would be pissed!!
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Sometimes I say "I harvested a state raised free range deer". Most of the time I say "I got a deer", or " I shot a deer", ect....
To me "harvest" is more fitting because it comes with the thoughts of using and eating what was harvested.
"killed" is more in line with carp, rats, moles, mice, coyotes, ect..... Those critters that you kill with no real intent on using them.
But either is fine for me. Seems a bit like splitting hairs. In the end its dead, and I'm going to eat it.
:yeah:
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how about bagged? i bagged a buck :dunno:
maybe you could say harvest if you took a buck that was grown in a high fenced area :chuckle:
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kill, i kill everything. deer, elk , strawberrys, bugs, corn. i kill it all
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I GOT ONE.
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kill
speaking of killing a spider seems to have left the safety of the ceiling I must now hunt it down and smash it into a smear on the floor.....we have a rule stay on ceiling I dont kill you :tup:
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I usually I got my deer, shot it, tagged it. I guess in my opinion if you harvested your deer u either raised it, bought it's genetics, or high fenced it where someone else raised it. Harvesting is for gardeners.
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when my daughter was young she could not except that when i went hunting i would kill a deer , so she would say "daddy I hope you catch a deer". So when ever I go hunting now I try to "catch a deer" :chuckle:
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when my daughter was young she could not except that when i went hunting i would kill a deer , so she would say "daddy I hope you catch a deer". So when ever I go hunting now I try to "catch a deer" :chuckle:
:yeah: Lol my daughter says the same thing and I go along with it but I think she's starting to realize I'm shooting and killing them. But my girlfriend will ask did you catch anything and I'll look at her and say are you fricking kidding me, I don't ever catch anything I kill them. But now she just does that crap to piss me off! :bash: :chuckle:
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I just said this in another post :chuckle:
I say Kill, Killin, Kilt, Bloodlust, Slaughter, Stuck, Shot, Murder, Mayhem, Destroy, All the above. Never say harvest...ever. We all call it and deal with things differently.
I work in Oregon with a bunch of tree hunggin hippies , so I like messin with people and tell them if I don't get the Bloodlust out of my system during hunting season I'm gunna have go slaughter all the animals in a pet store...They get all twisted up about me saying that...I find it funny they get twisted up. they all like the deer meat I bring in though, odd how that works.
Murder: The unlawful killing of one human by another.
I hope you don't murder :dunno:
:sry:
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You "harvest" a crop.
You "bag" groceries.
You "kill" a buck. :mgun:
Hunting is a matter of life and death. No need to tiptoe around the reality. The deer dies. "You done gone off and kilt it." :tup:
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I just said this in another post :chuckle:
I say Kill, Killin, Kilt, Bloodlust, Slaughter, Stuck, Shot, Murder, Mayhem, Destroy, All the above. Never say harvest...ever. We all call it and deal with things differently.
I work in Oregon with a bunch of tree hunggin hippies , so I like messin with people and tell them if I don't get the Bloodlust out of my system during hunting season I'm gunna have go slaughter all the animals in a pet store...They get all twisted up about me saying that...I find it funny they get twisted up. they all like the deer meat I bring in though, odd how that works.
Murder: The unlawful killing of one human by another.
I hope you don't murder :dunno:
:sry:
That's the noun. As a verb it means: to kill or slaughter inhumanly or barbarously.
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I will hardly ever say Killed, and never harvest. I always try to use the words "took" or "taken". Just seems less brutal when talking to others.
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when my daughter was young she could not except that when i went hunting i would kill a deer , so she would say "daddy I hope you catch a deer". So when ever I go hunting now I try to "catch a deer" :chuckle:
:yeah: Lol my daughter says the same thing and I go along with it but I think she's starting to realize I'm shooting and killing them. But my girlfriend will ask did you catch anything and I'll look at her and say are you fricking kidding me, I don't ever catch anything I kill them. But now she just does that crap to piss me off! :bash: :chuckle:
My wife does the same thing - "did you catch anything?" It used to get a rise out of me. :chuckle: :chuckle:
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I just said this in another post :chuckle:
I say Kill, Killin, Kilt, Bloodlust, Slaughter, Stuck, Shot, Murder, Mayhem, Destroy, All the above. Never say harvest...ever. We all call it and deal with things differently.
I work in Oregon with a bunch of tree hunggin hippies , so I like messin with people and tell them if I don't get the Bloodlust out of my system during hunting season I'm gunna have go slaughter all the animals in a pet store...They get all twisted up about me saying that...I find it funny they get twisted up. they all like the deer meat I bring in though, odd how that works.
Murder: The unlawful killing of one human by another.
I hope you don't murder :dunno:
:sry:
That's the noun. As a verb it means: to kill or slaughter inhumanly or barbarously.
I think yall missed the second part of my post when I said I work in Oregon with a bunch of hippies. I say what I do to get their panties in a bunch cause its funny to me. commin back from hunting saying "I murdered me a couple deer (or other furry critters)" make them want to call PETA on me. As long as its fun for me thats all that matters :chuckle:
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I say both. I am the only hunter in my family. Half of my family suports me half doesnt care. My Grandma calls me the harvester of the family. I hunt, grow a garden and gather mushrooms. Hell, I even enjoy canning. I enjoy butchering. my Grandma admires my ability. She calles me the harvester...and what she says goes. To the folks who dont like hunting (specificly my Uncle Pat)...I KILL! Both terms are fine to me.
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Meat is murder....tasty tasty murder. :chuckle:
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"Where did the ugly term "harvesting" come from? To speak of "harvesting" other living creatures, whether deer or elk or birds or cottontail rabbits, as if they were no more than a crop, exposes the meanest, cruelest, most narrow and homocentric of possible human attitudes toward the life that surrounds us. The word reveals the pervasive influence of utilitarian economics in the modern mind-set; and of all the sciences, economics is the most crude and obtuse as well as dismal. Such doctrine insults and violates both humanity and life; and humanity will be, already is, the victim of it." E. Abbey
You and I, may, or may not, agree with his philosiphy or path in life and the countless fools he's nurtured, but it needs to be read and known by hunters everywhere. You might be pleasently, or not, surprised with his "upbringing".
"In earnest. There lies the key to the ethical issue. Earnestness. Purpose. That sly sophist Ortega y Gasset wroth, somewhere, that "one kills in order to have hunted." Not good enough. Thoreau would say, one kills in order to eat. The killing is justified by the need and must be done in a spirit of respect, reverence, gratitude. Otherwise hunting sinks to the level of mere fun, "harvesting animals," divertissement, sadism, or sport. Sport!" E. Abbey
Personnally I like to raise the hackels of some "anti's" as well, but this does not have any upside for our future! I do it, only when ALL the ears are known to me, for fun. For Fun. Harvest will never come from my mouth in the pursuit of any wild creature. Harvesting is for gardens and things that are not free, nor have free will, nor are the Wild we pusue in "Earnest". :twocents:
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shoot shot and got....Harvest is for the pc dudes on tv....
my favorite term is, the one used by most female non hunters i know, they like to say catch, did ya catch a deer, lol. i like to say, yeah, i did, i caught one, took a picture with it, then pulled the bullet out, patched him up and released him. :chuckle:
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I had never really thought about it.
I seem to use the "whack" terminology.
I tell my wife "I'm gonna go whack a critter"
"whacked" is past tense (like the animal is dead)
I won't go into present tense, "whacking" , this is a family site :chuckle:
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Kill, because I'm not politically correct and I won't try to please the greenies.
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:chuckle: Here's what the Nuge thinks! At least just one of many.
http://www.celebritytweet.com/TedNugent/link/268442750280683522/ (http://www.celebritytweet.com/TedNugent/link/268442750280683522/)
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I'll say harvest if talking to a non-hunter. Otherwise shot, arrowed, bagged, dumped, dropped, slammed, whacked, or killed.
:yeah:
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If the animals were being taken, like they are in Europe, where certain numbers of male, female, young, and those deformed are taken to keep the population balanced and to keep the"Gene Pool" strong, then it would be "Harvesting". As it is, we shoot the biggest damn buck we can or hunt for "freezer meat". In order to take the animal home, all know you, first, have to kill it. The animal is NOT human, so the terminalogy, "Murder", does NOT apply.
When talking to a non-hunter, perhaps the, newer, terminology should be what I am reading on this forum a lot; "give them a "Dirt Nap"". I, myself, am just trying to find one so I can convince them to come home with me. :twocents: