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Title: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: jerez on November 25, 2012, 10:00:20 PM


My friend went out this morning and shot only one but it was one i havent seen around here. :dunno:










Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: Limhangerslayer on November 25, 2012, 10:02:12 PM
Red
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Post by: Fowlweather25 on November 25, 2012, 10:03:04 PM
Head
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Post by: h2ofowlr on November 25, 2012, 10:06:54 PM
Red Head!
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Post by: lokidog on November 25, 2012, 10:08:03 PM
Nice, that's one I've never gotten.  Not sure I have even seen one while hunting.
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Post by: cue772 on November 25, 2012, 11:27:22 PM
Nice! We used to get into them good in SW Oklahoma.

Good to see one .. thanks for sharing.
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Post by: PolarBear on November 25, 2012, 11:29:42 PM
Dead Red Head
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Post by: Skagit_Hunter on November 26, 2012, 06:40:10 AM
Nice bird..... But why shoot something you don't know what it is :dunno: Could get you in trouble someday. :twocents:
Title: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: Tealer on November 26, 2012, 06:45:39 AM
That is one of the Easiest birds to ID there is.
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Post by: C-Money on November 26, 2012, 06:50:55 AM
Pretty bird! I am in the group that has never got one.
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: h2ofowlr on November 26, 2012, 08:05:41 PM
Google the next one prior to posting it incase you shoot a greb or a cormorant and post it.   :tup:  Duck ID should be required prior to one being able to buy a duck stamp.   :twocents:
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Post by: 3nails on November 26, 2012, 08:20:40 PM
Dead Red Head in truck bed.
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Post by: elkaholic on November 26, 2012, 08:33:03 PM
Looks like a spotted..... Oh never mind, red head! Good looking duck!
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: Spuddieselwwu on November 26, 2012, 09:09:10 PM
Google the next one prior to posting it incase you shoot a greb or a cormorant and post it.   :tup:  Duck ID should be required prior to one being able to buy a duck stamp.   :twocents:

 :yeah:
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: crow killer on November 26, 2012, 10:07:23 PM
Heard there's certain season and certain things you have to by to kill divers!! Be careful about that
Title: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: Tealer on November 27, 2012, 06:43:55 AM
Heard there's certain season and certain things you have to by to kill divers!! Be careful about that

Really? What's that?
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: lokidog on November 27, 2012, 07:07:13 AM
Heard there's certain season and certain things you have to by to kill divers!! Be careful about that

Really? What's that?

Just for "sea ducks" on the west side, includes scoters, harlequins, golden eyes, and old squaw.
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: CP on November 27, 2012, 07:42:50 AM
That’s it?  That’s all the bashing he gets? 

Duck ID posts used to result in at least 5 pages of beratement .

It’s a kinder, gentler waterfowl board these days.
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: Jingles on November 27, 2012, 07:51:33 AM
 :yeah:
Nice bird..... But why shoot something you don't know what it is :dunno: Could get you in trouble someday. :twocents:
Title: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: Tealer on November 27, 2012, 08:12:10 AM
Heard there's certain season and certain things you have to by to kill divers!! Be careful about that

Really? What's that?

Just for "sea ducks" on the west side, includes scoters, harlequins, golden eyes, and old squaw.


I have had the sea duck cards for years. Just curious why divers needed something special?

There seems to be a bunch of guys on this board that don't comprehend the regs, or any sort of duck ID.
Title: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: Tealer on November 27, 2012, 08:18:37 AM
That’s it?  That’s all the bashing he gets? 

Duck ID posts used to result in at least 5 pages of beratement .

It’s a kinder, gentler waterfowl board these days.

Every time I go to bust a guys balls it gets locked or deleted.

 I can see how some birds are tough to ID, but this one is beyond easy. There is a pic of it in the bird regs!!!!!
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: Bullets_n_Octane on November 27, 2012, 08:42:11 AM
I agree with ensuring you're ID'ing waterfowl properly, but as far as looks go, It falls under "duck" in the regs on the Westside. Has the same body build as say a Mallard or Widgeon, so without actually seeing the color, which most waterfowlers know is sometimes impossible, you may not "KNOW" what it is that you're shooting, just that it is a duck. It looks nothing like a Sea Duck, so therefore if you're limit is low, or you havent shot anything yet, it's gonna get shot. Not to say WE HAVE ALL DONE it before, but if all of us 'Upstanding-20/20-eagle eye vision-top notch waterfowlers' DO PROPERLY ID the bird... chances are the guy in the next blind is gonna shoot it.

Just don't see how when a guy asks other huintin guys a question, suddenly we are all Gamies, or Hunting Jesus, then vindicate him for the little things... just my  :twocents:
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: h2ofowlr on November 27, 2012, 09:12:01 AM
There are a lot of ways to figure out what it is by looking around on the Internet, game regs, waterfowl ID books.  When one shoots something and doesn't know what they shot, then places it on a public forum they should get knock along the side of the head.  Just plane stupid and asking for trouble.  I see these threads every season.  If they are smart enough to create a profile and play around on the Internet, they should have some sort of clue their are better approaches to shooting first and asking questions later.
If it's to dark to ID birds, wait until it gets light.  Watch wing speed, flight formation, calls "sounds" they make and shape.  Scouting locations will also give you a good idea of what the area is holding for birds.  If you see birds you can't ID, take a picture while still alive and post it.  Guys will help them out.  If you shoot it just because it flies, then post it one deserves to get talked to!
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: TheSkyBuster on November 27, 2012, 01:40:04 PM
That’s it?  That’s all the bashing he gets? 

Duck ID posts used to result in at least 5 pages of beratement .

It’s a kinder, gentler waterfowl board these days.

The waterfowl bashing has temporarily been moved to the Upland Birds board,  Stay Tuned, the Waterfowl board will be back to normal as soon as the "hunter who peppered us" topic gets locked.   :chuckle:
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: cue772 on November 27, 2012, 03:59:04 PM
That’s it?  That’s all the bashing he gets? 

Duck ID posts used to result in at least 5 pages of beratement .

It’s a kinder, gentler waterfowl board these days.

Every time I go to bust a guys balls it gets locked or deleted.

 I can see how some birds are tough to ID, but this one is beyond easy. There is a pic of it in the bird regs!!!!!

Yeah.. I am not sure how this get asked here either. The redhead is not uncommon.. and even though there may not be a significant amount here... EVERY identification guide will include a redhead practically on the first page.
Title: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: Tealer on November 27, 2012, 05:28:57 PM
I agree with ensuring you're ID'ing waterfowl properly, but as far as looks go, It falls under "duck" in the regs on the Westside. Has the same body build as say a Mallard or Widgeon, so without actually seeing the color, which most waterfowlers know is sometimes impossible, you may not "KNOW" what it is that you're shooting, just that it is a duck. It looks nothing like a Sea Duck, so therefore if you're limit is low, or you havent shot anything yet, it's gonna get shot. Not to say WE HAVE ALL DONE it before, but if all of us 'Upstanding-20/20-eagle eye vision-top notch waterfowlers' DO PROPERLY ID the bird... chances are the guy in the next blind is gonna shoot it.

Just don't see how when a guy asks other huintin guys a question, suddenly we are all Gamies, or Hunting Jesus, then vindicate him for the little things... just my  :twocents:

If your using the color of the bird your nuts. Every bird looks different in flight. Wether it's wing beats or the shape of the bird. Even the way the fly is different.

Redheads have a two bird limit a day, in some places they are thick as fleas. Very easy to shoot over your limit.

Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: JLS on November 27, 2012, 05:35:08 PM
I agree with ensuring you're ID'ing waterfowl properly, but as far as looks go, It falls under "duck" in the regs on the Westside. Has the same body build as say a Mallard or Widgeon, so without actually seeing the color, which most waterfowlers know is sometimes impossible, you may not "KNOW" what it is that you're shooting, just that it is a duck. It looks nothing like a Sea Duck, so therefore if you're limit is low, or you havent shot anything yet, it's gonna get shot. Not to say WE HAVE ALL DONE it before, but if all of us 'Upstanding-20/20-eagle eye vision-top notch waterfowlers' DO PROPERLY ID the bird... chances are the guy in the next blind is gonna shoot it.

Just don't see how when a guy asks other huintin guys a question, suddenly we are all Gamies, or Hunting Jesus, then vindicate him for the little things... just my  :twocents:

I'd just as soon the next guy shoots the illegal bird as me. 

The importance you put on bird ID is up to you,  but it makes me cringe watching guys blaze away at ducks not really knowing what they are.  Be a bummer to nail something that is closed. :twocents:
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: BigKav on November 28, 2012, 08:15:59 AM
I can't stop shaking my head, every time I read this post.

Shooting first and asking questions second is worthy of a face punch. Know what you are killing.

I've not shot close ducks because I couldn't identify them (I'm still new and learning silhouettes.)
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: boneaddict on November 28, 2012, 08:26:55 AM
I can't stop shaking my head, every time I read this post.

Shooting first and asking questions second is worthy of a face punch. Know what you are killing.

I've not shot close ducks because I couldn't identify them (I'm still new and learning silhouettes.)

he did note he didn't shoot it.  it was his friends.   My friends have shot things I didn't know what were but they did.  Might be the case here.
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: cue772 on November 28, 2012, 08:47:56 AM
I can't stop shaking my head, every time I read this post.

Shooting first and asking questions second is worthy of a face punch. Know what you are killing.

I've not shot close ducks because I couldn't identify them (I'm still new and learning silhouettes.)

I wouldn't go so far as to say his friend needs to be punched in the face.. sheesh. But we don't need to ignore poor hunting practices either. I have a hard time with identification while in flight at times..  due to a number of different reasons. A pair of binos have been helpful and if you are new to duck hunting, can give you some practice identifying ducks at a distance.
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: 92xj on November 28, 2012, 09:03:10 AM
OP asked what kind of duck his friend shot. 
Answer - Redhead.

The assumptions you people have made make you look like idiots. 
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: Bullets_n_Octane on November 28, 2012, 09:39:39 AM
I agree with everyone about identifying, 100%. I just kinda chuckle at how everyone bashes people on here when they post somethin stupid, and I'm not sayin they don't need a lecture. I think at one point in our lives, if not more, we have done something  slightly stupid... You'd think people just would'nt post it. lol.

Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: Dhoey07 on November 28, 2012, 09:47:16 AM
Maybe we need a thread with a bunch of dead duck close up shots with their name  :dunno: Might help out some newbies  :tup:
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: grundy53 on November 28, 2012, 09:53:51 AM
Maybe we need a thread with a bunch of dead duck close up shots with their name  :dunno: Might help out some newbies  :tup:
:yeah:
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: Spuddieselwwu on November 28, 2012, 09:56:38 AM
Maybe we need a thread with a bunch of dead duck close up shots with their name  :dunno: Might help out some newbies  :tup:

Great idea!
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: boneaddict on November 28, 2012, 09:57:49 AM
THats actually a good suggestion, unlike lighting a guy up because he asked a question.   Try to learn something around here and get BLASTED for it.  Talk about IDing your target before you shoot. 
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: lokidog on November 28, 2012, 10:14:10 AM
I had a warden look at some ducks on my tailgate one day, he didn't know what the drake pintail was (of course it was in eclipse).   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: CP on November 28, 2012, 11:58:31 AM
Anyone wanting to brush up on their ID skills should check out this web site:

http://www.ducks.org/hunting/waterfowl-id (http://www.ducks.org/hunting/waterfowl-id)
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: Bullets_n_Octane on November 28, 2012, 12:21:51 PM
I had a warden look at some ducks on my tailgate one day, he didn't know what the drake pintail was (of course it was in eclipse).   :rolleyes:

I had an eclisped Widgeon Drake last time I was out, the Gamie at the launch was trying to tell me it was a new species, and told me I should see about having it named after the lake or my name... I couldn't help but LOL... he didn't find it funny...

I also like the idea of pic thread on Duck ID'ing...
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: Kola16 on November 28, 2012, 02:02:16 PM
Well Bone...now you have more pics to take when all of those bucks shed their horns  :chuckle: :IBCOOL:
Title: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: Tealer on November 28, 2012, 04:35:18 PM
I agree with everyone about identifying, 100%. I just kinda chuckle at how everyone bashes people on here when they post somethin stupid, and I'm not sayin they don't need a lecture. I think at one point in our lives, if not more, we have done something  slightly stupid... You'd think people just would'nt post it. lol.

So here's the thing, a ticket for over the limit or 'closed' species sticks with you. If you get another they get worse. It will also get you turned around at the Canadian border. I know one bird sounds small but it has consequences. I hate guys who don't put forth enough effort to ID their target.


The op's buddy shot it, and nether could ID it?

Does the average fowler have any idea what they are shooting?
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: SquirrelHunter on November 28, 2012, 07:16:34 PM
I myself am new the the waterfowl sport, and still have a little trouble ID'ing waterfowl in the air. If I cant confirm what it is I dont shoot, I also like to watch them fly, look at the belly in mid air and the back and let them land to help ID them, allows you to see the characteristics of the bids from all angles.  To many times have i been out with guys and a duck flys by and the first thing they say is "what kind of bird is that?", or the common "its a mallard" when actually its a ringneck or widgon.  :chuckle:
I like the way they do it in some hunting areas with geese and ID'ing them. Maybe you should have to pass an ID course before hunting ducks as well.
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: Fishnclifff on November 28, 2012, 08:24:04 PM
If they are brown----they are down. :chuckle:
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: duckkillerclyde on November 28, 2012, 08:26:21 PM
I agree with ensuring you're ID'ing waterfowl properly, but as far as looks go, It falls under "duck" in the regs on the Westside. Has the same body build as say a Mallard or Widgeon, so without actually seeing the color, which most waterfowlers know is sometimes impossible, you may not "KNOW" what it is that you're shooting, just that it is a duck. It looks nothing like a Sea Duck, so therefore if you're limit is low, or you havent shot anything yet, it's gonna get shot. Not to say WE HAVE ALL DONE it before, but if all of us 'Upstanding-20/20-eagle eye vision-top notch waterfowlers' DO PROPERLY ID the bird... chances are the guy in the next blind is gonna shoot it.

Just don't see how when a guy asks other huintin guys a question, suddenly we are all Gamies, or Hunting Jesus, then vindicate him for the little things... just my  :twocents:

If your using the color of the bird your nuts. Every bird looks different in flight. Wether it's wing beats or the shape of the bird. Even the way the fly is different.

Redheads have a two bird limit a day, in some places they are thick as fleas. Very easy to shoot over your limit.

 :yeah: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: duckkillerclyde on November 28, 2012, 08:34:16 PM
Whatever happened to KNOW YOUR TARGET AND BEYOND?

 :bash:
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: jerez on November 28, 2012, 09:33:48 PM
wow i cant belive it my buddy knew what kind of bird it was but he told me to post it on here to see how many people would just talk $**7 he said there is alot of people here looking to be some kind of leo.I didnt belive him now i know why he didnt post it under his profile.
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: JLS on November 28, 2012, 09:37:39 PM
Troll much?

Sorry, but for him to portray that he shot a duck without really knowing what it was makes him look the fool.

Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: BigKav on November 29, 2012, 08:02:17 AM
 :yeah:

Troll much?

Sorry, but for him to portray that he shot a duck without really knowing what it was makes him look the fool.
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: 92xj on November 29, 2012, 08:05:34 AM
Troll much?

Sorry, but for him to portray that he shot a duck without really knowing  what it was makes him look the fool.

Where did this happen in the thread?  I missed it somewhere.

To me, the OP asked what kind of duck his buddy killed.  Nowhere did I get that he killed the duck without knowing what it was. 
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: BigKav on November 29, 2012, 08:08:30 AM
Either way, if he's trolling, he's an idiot. If his friend shot it without knowing what it was (probably what really happened), he's an idiot. If the guy who posted it didn't know what it was, and HIS BUDDY shot it, HIS BUDDY would have told him what it was if he knew what it was. Then this guy wouldn't be asking.
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: boneaddict on November 29, 2012, 08:53:53 AM
Quote
Either way, if he's trolling, he's an idiot.

I know, I am almost sad I stuck up for him.   Almost.....
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: boneaddict on November 29, 2012, 08:54:30 AM
anotehr good thread came out of it though.   

Every once in awhile when you are digging through the trash you find a Willy Wonka ticket....
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: Kola16 on November 29, 2012, 09:15:34 AM
anotehr good thread came out of it though.   

Every once in awhile when you are digging through the trash you find a Willy Wonka ticket....

Totally lost  :chuckle: :dunno: :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: h2ofowlr on November 29, 2012, 11:41:25 AM
wow i cant belive it my buddy knew what kind of bird it was but he told me to post it on here to see how many people would just talk $**7 he said there is alot of people here looking to be some kind of leo.I didnt belive him now i know why he didnt post it under his profile.

Wow!  Some people just don't get it.  Just don't post your swan that you thought was a snow goose or your seagul that you thought was a leucistic mallard.  You would still be a knucklehead for shooting it if you didn't know what it was.  They should throw you guys in the same line up as those that shoot 2-points in 3-point min area.  It was a deer with horns so, you shot it.   :bash: :bash:
Take picture or describe it, or learn bird ID before blast it period.  Then no crap talking.  Only get blasted because you shoot it first, then post it on a forum with no idea what it is.  Brilliant.   :bash: :bash:
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: Blacktail135 on November 29, 2012, 08:02:00 PM
 This post set off my last post the other day (not reply) that was laced with stupid stuff and emocion's. It was like (to me) trying to decipher what the heck "Valley Girl's" were saying. Those of you that don't know what a Valley Girl is, Google it! Also reminded me of 3 stories I've heard over the year's. 1) When my Father-in-law was working on the force he was approached by a couple of "dweeb's" that were elk hunting, asking what an elk looked like.  2) The "elk hunter's" that stopped at the Lyman store showing off their cow elk......in their rig....a dead mule. 3) The grouse hunter's showing off their grouse......the farmer's Guinea fowl! A couple of these stories may be just a myth but....where there's smoke there's fire, eh. Know what your doing, man. Your, whether you know it or not, representing us all....as hunter's.
Title: Re: WHAT KIND OF DUCK IS THIS
Post by: Kola16 on November 29, 2012, 09:05:07 PM
1) When my Father-in-law was working on the force he was approached by a couple of "dweeb's" that were elk hunting, asking what an elk looked like.  2) The "elk hunter's" that stopped at the Lyman store showing off their cow elk......in their rig....a dead mule. 3) The grouse hunter's showing off their grouse......the farmer's Guinea fowl! A couple of these stories may be just a myth but....where there's smoke there's fire, eh.

 :yike: :yike: :yike: :bdid: I hope 2 and 3 are myths.
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