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Title: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: Kc_Kracker on November 30, 2012, 08:25:52 AM
so am i understanding this right, if you choose modern and you can only hunt the listed modern seasons and when its over its over, and you cannot hunting with any other weapon during any other weapons times

Am I understanding right that if you choose archery, when your archery hunting dates are not active, you can hunt archery during muzzy & modern seasons too?
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: bobcat on November 30, 2012, 08:27:39 AM
No that's not right.

With an archery tag you can only hunt archery seasons.
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: gasman on November 30, 2012, 08:29:28 AM
No that's not right.

With an archery tag you can only hunt archery seasons.


 :yeah:

But you can hunt with Archery equipment with a muzzy or modern tag, during muzzy and modern season.
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: Kc_Kracker on November 30, 2012, 08:30:04 AM
oh ok i thought so and had someone trying to tell me different
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: jaymark6655 on November 30, 2012, 08:38:42 AM
If you choose Archery, you can only hunt archery season.

If you choose muzzleloader, you can only hunt muzzleloader season.

If you choose modern, you can only hunt modern.

Now what equipment you can use in each season varies, for example if you have a modern tag, during modern season you can use your bow to hunt.
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 30, 2012, 08:46:08 AM
So then, why does the WDFW have multiseason tags ?
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: jaymark6655 on November 30, 2012, 08:47:19 AM
So then, why does the WDFW have multiseason tags ?
To make more money.

The person with such a tag is allowed to hunt all three seasons.
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
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Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 30, 2012, 08:56:29 AM
So then, why does the WDFW have multiseason tags ?
To make more money.

The person with such a tag is allowed to hunt all three seasons.

I know about screwing us about making money.
Buy why do they have it so you can use archery during rifle as was posted ? I know you can't because everybody would do it, right ?
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: 92xj on November 30, 2012, 08:56:50 AM
I think I have this right.....

If you choose Archery, you can only hunt archery season with archery equipment only.

If you choose muzzleloader, you can only hunt muzzleloader season with legal muzzleloading equipment or archery equipment.

If you choose modern, you can only hunt modern. But can hunt it with any legal weapon (rifle, archery, ML, etc.)

Multi season tag allows you to hunt Archery season with archery equipment only, if you dont fill your tag, you can then hunt muzzleloader season with a legal muzzleloader or archery equipment, and if you dont fill your tag then you may hunt the modern season with any legal weapon (rifle, archery, ML, etc.)

Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: 92xj on November 30, 2012, 09:00:08 AM
So then, why does the WDFW have multiseason tags ?
To make more money.

The person with such a tag is allowed to hunt all three seasons.

I know about screwing us about making money.
Buy why do they have it so you can use archery during rifle as was posted ? I know you can't because everybody would do it, right ?

I doubt it.
You may use archery equipment during modern, you can NOT use an archery tag to hunt during modern.
Guys that use archery equipment during modern (without the multi season tag) are only hunting with archery because they are diehard archery guys, or dont have a rifle or want to archery hunt and area that they feel is a better time of year to hunt. They are not hunting the archery season as well as the modern season on their one tag.  Only the multi season tag would allow you to do that.
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: Fl0und3rz on November 30, 2012, 09:00:40 AM
So then, why does the WDFW have multiseason tags ?
To make more money.

The person with such a tag is allowed to hunt all three seasons.

I know about screwing us about making money.
Buy why do they have it so you can use archery during rifle as was posted ? I know you can't because everybody would do it, right ?

You can hunt the season for which you have the tag.   That is, if you have archery, muzzle loader, or modern tag, you can only hunt those three seasons, respectively.  Now, what equipment you can use is a different question. Archery and muzzle loaders are valid equipment during modern, but you would still have to have the modern tag, and you could not choose to hunt archery or muzzle loader season with the modern tag.
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: huntnphool on November 30, 2012, 09:16:09 AM
so am i understanding this right, if you choose modern and you can only hunt the listed modern seasons and when its over its over, and you cannot hunting with any other weapon during any other weapons times

Am I understanding right that if you choose archery, when your archery hunting dates are not active, you can hunt archery during muzzy & modern seasons too?
Just purchase a multi season tag and use your archery gear in whichever season you want, no confusion for you that way, just be sure to wear your hunter orange clothing. :chuckle:
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: h20hunter on November 30, 2012, 09:20:27 AM
Just put in for the multi and antlerless permits and don't use any of it....
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: boneaddict on November 30, 2012, 09:58:18 AM
I do it mostly because I enjoy bowhunting, but the special permits I want to apply for are for modern guys.  The last couple years with the multi season tag being almost a gimme, makes it easy. 
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: jaymark6655 on November 30, 2012, 10:01:28 AM
Personally I like the late archery since, earlier in the year seems to be to hot.  I have a hunter orange hoodie, tried to hunt modern and was sweating before taking two steps from the car....thought to myself any animal with fur would be hiding in a cool spot and sleeping in this heat.  Switched to hunter orange t-shirt, didn't see a thing all season.
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: Chesapeake on November 30, 2012, 10:04:37 AM
I think I have this right.....

If you choose Archery, you can only hunt archery season with archery equipment only.

If you choose muzzleloader, you can only hunt muzzleloader season with legal muzzleloading equipment or archery equipment.

If you choose modern, you can only hunt modern. But can hunt it with any legal weapon (rifle, archery, ML, etc.)

Multi season tag allows you to hunt Archery season with archery equipment only, if you dont fill your tag, you can then hunt muzzleloader season with a legal muzzleloader only, and if you dont fill your tag then you may hunt the modern season with any legal weapon (rifle, archery, ML, etc.)


This guy has it, but with the multi-season tag you can use muzzy and bow during muzzy just like normal.

The incentive tag adds a whole nother layer to this that I'm not sure even I have a grip on. As I understand it:
You can hunt Sept ?? to Decemper 31. In any unit that has hunting for your species except those they say you cant in the packet.
If there is an active hunt in the unit you must abide by that hunts rules. If there isnt an active hunt you must abide by Modern firearm rules.

So at any given time from the first part of September well into January in some units, you could run into a hunter carrying pretty well any weapon type and he could very well be legaly hunting elk or deer. If you add in waterfowl, cougar, bear, grouse, coyotes, ect..... You could pretty well run into a hunter with any weapon type, any time of the year, and they very likely could be legaly hunting something.

Some of us take advantage of this, but most seem to only hit the woods in October and November. The rest of the year you hardly see anyone save for turkey season and the high buck. Then I run into them Primetime Outdoors guys and their cameras.  :) :tup:
 
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: CAMPMEAT on November 30, 2012, 11:19:44 AM
How about the " Farmers Permits " ?  Those are year 'round......... :chuckle:
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: MADMAX on November 30, 2012, 11:33:30 AM
Some guys use archery during modern season in firearm restriction or no shooting areas like the end of the Coyle
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: brackens on November 30, 2012, 11:40:28 AM
So, if i buy a modern tag and a multi-season tag, I can hunt with my rifle during archery? 
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: bobcat on November 30, 2012, 11:42:51 AM
So, if i buy a modern tag and a multi-season tag, I can hunt with my rifle during archery?

No.    :bash:
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: Holg3107 on November 30, 2012, 11:45:00 AM
Quote
So, if i buy a modern tag and a multi-season tag, I can hunt with my rifle during archery? 

REALLY!!!!!!!!  :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash: :bash:
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: brackens on November 30, 2012, 11:45:33 AM
LOL.  I am kidding, I understand that you would need to hunt with the appropriate weapon for that season but can hunt in all three.  Sorry  ;)  I still think that the raffle and special permit process is hard to follow but I have this down.

So, if i buy a modern tag and a multi-season tag, I can hunt with my rifle during archery?

No.    :bash:
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on November 30, 2012, 11:47:18 AM
The only legal way for a felon to hunt is with archery equipment, unless they've had their firearm rights restored.  I've encountered felons with archery equipment during modern and muzzy because that was the season their friends/family hunt. 
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: brackens on November 30, 2012, 11:48:25 AM
I have a cousin that does this as well.

The only legal way for a felon to hunt is with archery equipment, unless they've had their firearm rights restored.  I've encountered felons with archery equipment during modern and muzzy because that was the season their friends/family hunt.
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: Turner89 on November 30, 2012, 11:49:27 AM
I think I have this right.....

If you choose Archery, you can only hunt archery season with archery equipment only.

If you choose muzzleloader, you can only hunt muzzleloader season with legal muzzleloading equipment or archery equipment.

If you choose modern, you can only hunt modern. But can hunt it with any legal weapon (rifle, archery, ML, etc.)

Multi season tag allows you to hunt Archery season with archery equipment only, if you dont fill your tag, you can then hunt muzzleloader season with a legal muzzleloader or archery equipment, and if you dont fill your tag then you may hunt the modern season with any  legal weapon (rifle, archery, ML, etc.)
:yeah:  Can't be said any more clear than this
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: Roperfive88 on November 30, 2012, 12:34:41 PM
I think I have this right.....

If you choose Archery, you can only hunt archery season with archery equipment only.

If you choose muzzleloader, you can only hunt muzzleloader season with legal muzzleloading equipment or archery equipment.

If you choose modern, you can only hunt modern. But can hunt it with any legal weapon (rifle, archery, ML, etc.)

Multi season tag allows you to hunt Archery season with archery equipment only, if you dont fill your tag, you can then hunt muzzleloader season with a legal muzzleloader or archery equipment, and if you dont fill your tag then you may hunt the modern season with any  legal weapon (rifle, archery, ML, etc.)
:yeah:  Can't be said any more clear than this
:yeah: In the regs it says what weapons you can use on the side where it says Hunting Method Next to all the regular season dates for archery, muzzy, and modern.
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: csaaphill on November 30, 2012, 12:58:52 PM
You can hunt with archery equipment in Modern season or with a Muzzle loader in modern. I have for several years used archery equipment in Modern just because it's too damned hot in the reg arch season so I chose modern tag. very much at a disadvantage though. I liked the late arch season, but the areas were always too far. No you can not use archery in muzzle loading only seasons. Money may very well be the reason for the multiple season tags, but lots like myself if we did not kill a deer elk in one season we wanted to be able to hunt in other seasons as well. I believe at one time until they made us chose just one tag for weapon choice you could strait up. not this permit crap though. I would more like it over the counter where I could buy all those tags individually. If this was the case I think the state would make far more money on that. What they could do is lower the price a bit on each tag, but package it like the do the Deer, Elk, Bear, Cougar tags. Then offer different options to purchase all one two or whatever combo one might want.
However this year and I may have missed it they did away with the combo Deer, Elk, and Bear combo why? I like that combo since I'm not much on cougar hunting although I have boughten the full meal deal before.
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: Chesapeake on November 30, 2012, 01:56:04 PM
I think I have this right.....

If you choose Archery, you can only hunt archery season with archery equipment only.

If you choose muzzleloader, you can only hunt muzzleloader season with legal muzzleloading equipment or archery equipment.

If you choose modern, you can only hunt modern. But can hunt it with any legal weapon (rifle, archery, ML, etc.)

Multi season tag allows you to hunt Archery season with archery equipment only, if you dont fill your tag, you can then hunt muzzleloader season with a legal muzzleloader or archery equipment, and if you dont fill your tag then you may hunt the modern season with any  legal weapon (rifle, archery, ML, etc.)
:yeah:  Can't be said any more clear than this

Yep, after his very small edit, it looks good to go.

Someone should sticky his post on the banner so folks know.
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: pd on November 30, 2012, 05:27:56 PM
I think I have this right.....

If you choose Archery, you can only hunt archery season with archery equipment only.

If you choose muzzleloader, you can only hunt muzzleloader season with legal muzzleloading equipment or archery equipment.

If you choose modern, you can only hunt modern. But can hunt it with any legal weapon (rifle, archery, ML, etc.)

Multi season tag allows you to hunt Archery season with archery equipment only, if you dont fill your tag, you can then hunt muzzleloader season with a legal muzzleloader or archery equipment, and if you dont fill your tag then you may hunt the modern season with any  legal weapon (rifle, archery, ML, etc.)
:yeah:  Can't be said any more clear than this

Yep, after his very small edit, it looks good to go.

Someone should sticky his post on the banner so folks know.

Boy, am I glad you guys had this conversation.  I must admit that I mis-understood the Multi Season Permit.  In other words:

"The Multi Season Permit simply extends the legal number of days for a person to hunt, beyond just the archery/muzzleloader/modern seasons.  In return for the favor, we get to pay $180."

Now, do I have it correct??
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: ghosthunter on November 30, 2012, 05:38:09 PM
You run into this a lot in Hunter Ed. Felons who want to hunt with their modern tag buddies.

One of our party had a retraining order agonist him by his ex girl friend . It included no firearms for two years. He brought his bow and hunted a muzzy elk tag. So he could come to camp.
Title: Re: someone explain this to me, modern vs arch hunting times
Post by: fish vacuum on December 01, 2012, 02:32:19 AM
Look at your deer tag. It will say "archery," "muzzle loader," or "modern firearm." That's the season you get to hunt. During that season, you are allowed to use a lesser weapon if you choose.
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