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Title: Best deer caliber
Post by: Labs07 on December 11, 2012, 01:56:15 PM
So as my children grow up they are taking their guns with them and I am left with only a 338 I use for Elk and a muzzle loader.  My wife has said it would be alright to get a deer rifle.  For the past decade I have shot my deer with a muzzle loader and like it but I have been doing a lot of hunting in Wyoming the past 4 years and most of the shots I am presented with are well over my comfortable distance for a muzzle loader.  Any suggestions on a great caliber that can take white tails as well as Mule deer?
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: headshot5 on December 11, 2012, 02:00:22 PM
270/30-06 Winchester if you don't reload.  Anything else if you do.


Modify:  to clarify if you reload, look into 260, 7-08, .280, .257R and so on.  All good choices.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Gringo31 on December 11, 2012, 02:01:19 PM
Quote
270 Winchester if you don't reload.  Anything else if you do.

 :yeah:

GREAT choice!
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: bradslam on December 11, 2012, 02:02:11 PM
This ought to get interesting...and I don't want to hear anything about the .257 Roberts only being suitable for rabbits and squirrels!
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 11, 2012, 02:03:20 PM
.22 LR if you're hunting in the dark, otherwise .30-06. :yike: :yike: JK
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Labs07 on December 11, 2012, 02:03:52 PM
I am a novice reloader as well!
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Jburke on December 11, 2012, 02:04:25 PM
You will not get a consensus on this question. Your 338 would work if you wanted to use that. Or any of the popular calipers. 06, 270, 300 win mag. I personally use an 06 and have shot both whitetail and mule deer with it out to at least 300 yards.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: jackmaster on December 11, 2012, 02:06:04 PM
30-06 great all around gun, or 300 wsm and just use lighter bullets for deer, and heavier ones for elk and bear  :twocents: or go with the 270 it is also a good flat shootn deer rifle
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Jingles on December 11, 2012, 02:06:47 PM
Get a hold of some reloading books and compare the 270 and the 30-06 you'll find they are very very similar in fact use the same brass just resized neck.... Myself I'd go with the 30-06 because you can get heavier bullets for it if you decide to reload and go after something larger. 06 reload everything from 110 grain to 220 grain
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Spuddieselwwu on December 11, 2012, 02:12:14 PM
7mm Rem Mag, or .300 win mag.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: ing on December 11, 2012, 02:13:47 PM
25-06 or 280
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Kowsrule30 on December 11, 2012, 02:18:24 PM
243
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: bobcat on December 11, 2012, 02:19:29 PM
270, 30/06, or 308.

Can't go wrong with any of those three.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: huntnphool on December 11, 2012, 02:29:35 PM
Any legal caliber that you can hit the kill zone with comfortably, every time, will work. I prefer the 7mm. :twocents:
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: addicted2hunting on December 11, 2012, 02:44:37 PM
.50 BMG..... 8) jk. .270 all the way for me!
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Curly on December 11, 2012, 02:45:46 PM
.280AI

(close to 7mm rem mag performance, without the recoil)
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: 300UltraMagShooter on December 11, 2012, 02:57:23 PM
Any gun from .17 all the way up will "kill" a deer.  It is up to you to decide how quickly/humanely you put them down and what calibre for you that will allow you to find your deer. 

Me, I obviously think .30 is the smallest cal that will put them down right there without any worries ever.  .270 and bigger is where I draw the line on big holes and DRT, but that is just personal preference.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Kowsrule30 on December 11, 2012, 02:59:17 PM
He already has a 338.. JMO but I doubt he's looking for another magnum or he'd just use the 338...    :dunno:   
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: C-Money on December 11, 2012, 03:00:15 PM
7mm-08, .270win, .280, 30-06 All great calibers. Take a good look at the 7mm-08, What a perfect little cartridge. Plenty of power and easy on the shoulder, and very accurate.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: birdwacker on December 11, 2012, 03:01:36 PM
7mm-08, .270win, .280, 30-06 All great calibers. Take a good look at the 7mm-08, What a perfect little cartridge. Plenty of power and easy on the shoulder, and very accurate.
:yeah:
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: MooseStock on December 11, 2012, 03:14:02 PM
7MM Rem Mag is tough to beat for both deer and elk...............Les
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: quadrafire on December 11, 2012, 03:19:33 PM
I am a novice reloader as well!
I am in that same boat.
 I have always used a 30-06, but a couple of fun calibers for reloading and both respectable all around deer killers are the .260 Rem, and 7x57 mauser. I picked up one of these each for my kids, now I shoot them more than they do.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: 300UltraMagShooter on December 11, 2012, 03:21:38 PM
He already has a 338.. JMO but I doubt he's looking for another magnum or he'd just use the 338...    :dunno:

Yep, and if he can shoot his 338, I'd just stick with that...  but then, maybe he needs a shoulder gun that can be shot off-hand easily?  Anyway, just depends on the situation.  I love my 300 rum though.  When I'm in the bush, I just take everything off and slip in some power level ammo.  Instand 30-06.  :)
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Holg3107 on December 11, 2012, 03:32:00 PM
Can of worms thread if I've ever seen one, but ill partake.

Since you have a magnum caliber for elk I would go smaller down to the .24-.27 calibers.

Something like a .243, .260, .270 ect... I'm a personal fan of the 6mm Remington (mainly because that's what I own and shoot). Maybe think about a .243 wsm or a .243 wssm in an AR platform. Really I would simply use this as an opportunity to do some research in the field and shoot some calibers you aren't familiar with. Good luck in your quest.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: upwind on December 11, 2012, 03:48:58 PM
I like the 25-06 or 270 .
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Huntbear on December 11, 2012, 03:51:15 PM
This ought to get interesting...and I don't want to hear anything about the .257 Roberts only being suitable for rabbits and squirrels!

 :yeah:
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Gamblin Guy on December 11, 2012, 03:55:15 PM
My daughter went 2 for 2 on does this year with the 6mm, one here and one in Montana, neither one went more than25 yards.  Everything mentioned so far will kill deer, really its just personal preference on the gun maker and caliber.

If you start looking at a 25WSSM, let me know, I've got a NIB unfired stainless Browning A-bolt I may be willing to part with, ballistically similar to a 25-06.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 11, 2012, 04:02:50 PM
Throws hat in for .270.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: tazman2800 on December 11, 2012, 07:26:33 PM
Can't beat the Browning A-bolt in 30.06
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on December 11, 2012, 07:38:29 PM
WELL ...Best throw my  :twocents: in  :chuckle: in order  .270 / 25-06 / 7mm-08 / 243 .... No need to go any bigger in my book but some just have to have the magnum power  :dunno: :chuckle: :tup:
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: 3Under on December 11, 2012, 07:50:22 PM
WELL ...Best throw my  :twocents: in  :chuckle: in order  .270 / 25-06 / 7mm-08 / 243 .... No need to go any bigger in my book but some just have to have the magnum power  :dunno: :chuckle: :tup:

I was expecting you to say 100 grain Wasp...
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Hoythunter on December 11, 2012, 08:12:36 PM
When I dont have a bow in hand I've used nothing other than a 7mm.  With that being said, I just picked up the Sako A7 .270 that I'm anxious to shoot.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: JLS on December 11, 2012, 08:21:51 PM
For Wyoming, and especially if antelope are also on the docket I think the 25-06 is quite possibly the perfect gun.  If you want to do elk too, get a .270 and don't look back.  Deer aren't that tough if you put it in the boiler room.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: norsepeak on December 11, 2012, 08:23:51 PM
 :yeah:
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: TommyGun496 on December 11, 2012, 08:25:22 PM
.257 Bob!
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: bobcat on December 11, 2012, 08:33:19 PM
Honestly you cannot beat a 270 Winchester for a deer cartridge. (I say that because that's what I shoot)  :)
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: cem3434 on December 11, 2012, 08:40:41 PM
Any legal caliber that you can hit the kill zone with comfortably, every time, will work. I prefer the 7mm. :twocents:

 :yeah: I use a 300 wsm on the Eastside and a 243 win or 270 win on the wetside. My wife uses a 243 wssm on the wetside and a 270 wsm on the Eastside. Its not about the caliber, rather its about shot placement. With that being said, the wsm's are a little more forgiving (to you, not the deer) if your shot is a little off.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: AlpineMuley on December 11, 2012, 08:46:26 PM
Any heard, built or fired a 6.5 x47 lapua?  I might be off on something for full description.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on December 11, 2012, 09:27:04 PM
You asked for only a deer rifle.... if you only want it for deer no need to soak up more recoil than necessary.... The following calibers would be a great balance of performance and and recoil on deer size game.

7mm-08
.260
7x57
6.5x55
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Dan-o on December 11, 2012, 09:37:02 PM
This ought to get interesting...and I don't want to hear anything about the .257 Roberts only being suitable for rabbits and squirrels!


I agree!   The 257 Roberts is also perfecly capable of taking opposum..... as long as you keep the range close.

 Iheard that someone once killed a coyote with a 257, but it took several shots to the vitals.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Dan-o on December 11, 2012, 09:41:46 PM
I do think that the 7MM-08 might be the coolest new deer cartride of the bunch.

Any of the calibers mentioned (with the obvious exception of the caliber who's name shall not be typed) will work just fine.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Huntbear on December 11, 2012, 09:55:45 PM
This ought to get interesting...and I don't want to hear anything about the .257 Roberts only being suitable for rabbits and squirrels!


I agree!   The 257 Roberts is also perfecly capable of taking opposum..... as long as you keep the range close.

 Iheard that someone once killed a coyote with a 257, but it took several shots to the vitals.

This coming from a person driving a Hot Pink Prius, and has Magnum Rifle Envy..   :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :o
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: splitshot on December 11, 2012, 10:01:10 PM
this is a loaded question.  25-06 then 260 then  it is the guy shooting that makes the diff.    mike w
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 11, 2012, 10:02:59 PM
You asked 'Best deer caliber', but we're all going to answer with 'cartridge'.   :chuckle:
 
OMG!  This has been written about and argued about since the 50's!   People used to love the 44-40, then the 30WCF came a long and has probably killed a lot more deer across this fine nation of ours than anything else. (30-30)  A lot could be said for the 35Rem too.  No hunters arsenal is complete without a good iron sited lever gun for the brush country and short range hunting. If I was in the market for one, I'd really look at a Marlin lever gun in 308Marlin Express. I don't think that round will unseat the 308win or the venerable 30-30, but I like the balistics represented by that round.
 
For a little more oumph, comes the 300 Savage, which is not something you see on store shelves every day. From that came the development of the 308win. Gee... Why is it popular? Because it is an accurate cartridge, not hard on the shoulder and just about every rifle manufacture chambers multiple models for it.
 
Shy of the magnum cartridges, the 30-06 is the near do-all in the lower 48. It is a versital cartridge that can load 150gn up to 220gn bullets. A great backup to your 338winMag that will do quite well for any deer sized animal.
 
That said, the 270win, 280rem, 243win, 257Roberts, are all great deer cartridges. (Yes, I said 243win)  There are others, but for a beginning reloader, I would not suggest jumping into any of the wildcats. A popular cartridge gets the job done and is readily available to the hunter. A popular cartridge also has a good following of components available to the reloader.
 
I have killed more deer with the 30-30 and 44mag than anything else. Runner up is 30-06.
 
-Steve
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: JLS on December 11, 2012, 10:04:04 PM
it is the guy shooting that makes the diff.   

 :tup:Absolutely.  Load up a .22-250 with a 55 grain Barnes X and you could kill any deer that walked.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Dan-o on December 11, 2012, 10:06:17 PM
This ought to get interesting...and I don't want to hear anything about the .257 Roberts only being suitable for rabbits and squirrels!


I agree!   The 257 Roberts is also perfecly capable of taking opposum..... as long as you keep the range close.

 Iheard that someone once killed a coyote with a 257, but it took several shots to the vitals.

This coming from a person driving a Hot Pink Prius, and has Magnum Rifle Envy..   :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :o


Hey Bud!

Good to see you're still monitoring.    :-)

And I know......   I still owe you a beer.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: bradslam on December 11, 2012, 10:09:53 PM
This ought to get interesting...and I don't want to hear anything about the .257 Roberts only being suitable for rabbits and squirrels!


I agree!   The 257 Roberts is also perfecly capable of taking opposum..... as long as you keep the range close.

 Iheard that someone once killed a coyote with a 257, but it took several shots to the vitals.

Page 3.  What took you so long?
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Dan-o on December 11, 2012, 10:13:59 PM
This ought to get interesting...and I don't want to hear anything about the .257 Roberts only being suitable for rabbits and squirrels!


I agree!   The 257 Roberts is also perfecly capable of taking opposum..... as long as you keep the range close.

 Iheard that someone once killed a coyote with a 257, but it took several shots to the vitals.

Page 3.  What took you so long?


Sorry.  Work got in the way.

Besides, I was in no rush to state the obvious.      :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Huntbear on December 11, 2012, 10:17:14 PM
This ought to get interesting...and I don't want to hear anything about the .257 Roberts only being suitable for rabbits and squirrels!


I agree!   The 257 Roberts is also perfecly capable of taking opposum..... as long as you keep the range close.

 Iheard that someone once killed a coyote with a 257, but it took several shots to the vitals.

This coming from a person driving a Hot Pink Prius, and has Magnum Rifle Envy..   :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :o


Hey Bud!

Good to see you're still monitoring.    :-)

And I know......   I still owe you a beer.

 :tup: :tup: :tup:
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: 300UltraMagShooter on December 11, 2012, 10:46:18 PM
we all go by our own experiences.

here  are mine

.243 deer every now and then DRT.  more  often than not, they run 40 yards or more... and have had several occassions that they not leave a blood trail at all.  lost at least 3 deer I know I hit.

.270 deer have all died after 30 yards or so although a couple have not bleed well.  I'd use a .270 or bigger any day of the week.

.30 and none have went past 30 yards yet.  most have been DRT.  (I'm sure any deer hit in guts with just about anything will run a long ways, but I can't remember ever hitting one there.)

All a matter of preference.   I'd use a 22-250 if it was all I had and not feel under gunned.  but given the choice, I'll stick with my .30.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Lincoln4 on December 12, 2012, 07:31:15 AM
Deer are pretty easy to kill...

The longer I hunt deer, the more I like the smaller bores.  Every deer I've hit with the .243 dropped like a sack of potatoes.  My daughter has shot one with a .260rem, DRT.  My wife and I have shot several with .308s, every one dropping in it's tracks, except one that we lost.  Now that I have perfected the trigger on my 6.8spc AR, I'm sure it will be plenty next fall...
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: johnnyaustin44 on December 12, 2012, 08:39:36 AM
I like the 257 Roy.  close to my 270 wsm but something about a small bullet on steroids that jacks me up.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: et1702 on December 12, 2012, 08:41:16 AM

25-06  :tup:
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Labs07 on December 12, 2012, 09:25:02 AM
I am not looking for a mag.  Just a caliber that is very accurate, mild to moderate recoil and something that I can easily reload or buy factory ammo for.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Fl0und3rz on December 12, 2012, 09:26:45 AM
I am not looking for a mag.  Just a caliber that is very accurate, mild to moderate recoil and something that I can easily reload or buy factory ammo for.

270 Win with 150's is mild enough for my 15 year old niece.  130's would be even better.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: C-Money on December 12, 2012, 09:29:28 AM
I am not looking for a mag.  Just a caliber that is very accurate, mild to moderate recoil and something that I can easily reload or buy factory ammo for.

7mm-08 is your caliber. Loaded with some 140 Accubonds, you are set for anything in North America with very mild recoil.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: bobcat on December 12, 2012, 10:20:25 AM
270, or if you prefer a short action, then a 308.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: jaymark6655 on December 12, 2012, 10:27:14 AM
Man 4 pages and only 2 mentions of .308 Win.  :o

My first ever rifle choice was .308
Not much recoil, can handle anything in the lower 48 (sort of), tons and tons of off the shelf range and a never ending supplying of different components for reloading.
Cheaper than 30-06.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 12, 2012, 10:36:52 AM
I am not looking for a mag.  Just a caliber that is very accurate, mild to moderate recoil and something that I can easily reload or buy factory ammo for.

So I'll follow up to my post...  The most popular deer cartridge on store shelves would probably be 270win, 308win, 30-06 and maybe 7-08.  If your local ammo supply depot doesn't carry those, Shop somewhere else! They don't deserve your business.  :chuckle:   Each of these fits what you've requested.
 
-Steve
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Royal47 on December 12, 2012, 10:38:17 AM
270, 30/06, or 308.

Can't go wrong with any of those three.

I would also add 7mm to this list.
 :yeah:
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Curly on December 12, 2012, 11:06:18 AM
260 Rem
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Lcl 66 Tinner on December 12, 2012, 11:14:37 AM
What kind of distances are we looking at? I shoot a 7mm Rem mag and would suggest that. The 7mm Rem mag was designed to have the power of a .30-06 and less recoil than a .300 and its a fairly flat shooter along with the .270. 7mm Rem mag shoots 600 yards all day with good knock down power. .270 is my next choice.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Skillet on December 12, 2012, 11:18:48 AM
I am not looking for a mag.  Just a caliber that is very accurate, mild to moderate recoil and something that I can easily reload or buy factory ammo for.

You've got the 338WM already for elk - all of these "crossover" caliber suggestions are moot.

You can easily reload for just about anything.  But, if I was making your decision I'd lean towards something with easily available factory ammo.  If you don't care about the "cool factor" of having an odd caliber, I'd be looking at one of the .308-based cartridges in either a .243 or 7mm-08.  I'd probably go with the 7mm-08 just for the added punch, and I'm seeing more and more of this on the shelf of small stores out in the sticks.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: D-Rock425 on December 12, 2012, 11:26:15 AM
 :yeah:
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Labs07 on December 12, 2012, 11:59:48 AM
So in Wyoming my shots on antelope have been around 250 to 350 yrds and the Elk I shot this year over there was 437 yrds.  Here in WA I have yet to shoot a deer or Elk over 150 yrds.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: coachcw on December 12, 2012, 12:27:48 PM
all around the .270 . the .260 is very accurate and in a full length rifle in 1in 8 twist would make a killer set up .
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: casey58 on December 12, 2012, 01:06:06 PM
I use a .243 and haven't had a deer run more then 20 yds. after the shot.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Labs07 on December 12, 2012, 03:34:28 PM
Thanks for all of the great input!  It seems like all have good points and will get the job done!  When I do purchase I will let you all know what I bought!
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: bobcat on December 12, 2012, 03:37:06 PM
Whatever you get, it will be perfect!

(As long as it's a 270 Winchester)
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: matt345 on December 12, 2012, 03:41:01 PM
Whatever you get, it will be perfect!

(As long as it's a 270 Winchester)
:yeah:
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Curly on December 12, 2012, 04:43:53 PM
.270 Win is pretty darn good, but perfect is a .280 Rem.  8) 
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: 7STW on December 12, 2012, 05:09:09 PM
.270 Winchester and 130 grain sciroccos.
Title: Best deer caliber
Post by: jackelope on December 12, 2012, 05:26:19 PM
I've seen more deer boom-flop dead where they stood from a .243 than I have from my assorted .30 cal stuff. That would include, in recent history, 5-6 deer to a .30-06 and 2 to a .300 win mag. Shot placement is king. The big magnums do usually make them more deader though.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: coachcw on December 12, 2012, 05:30:38 PM
there's a accumark ultralight in the classifides in 270 . i think he want 1050 for it . really a fine rifle and about half price.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Ozzi Bob on December 12, 2012, 05:34:53 PM
 :hello: 308 winchester for me. Short compact rifle, short barrel, buy ammo anywhere, kills great without ruining heaps of meat
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: 300UltraMagShooter on December 12, 2012, 07:59:20 PM
Get a .308!!!  Everything you point it at will be DRT
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: RadSav on December 12, 2012, 08:12:26 PM
1.125 for me!  Nothing better than a graphite and steel injection  ;)

When it comes to guns...anything in the safe will do the job.  My favorite changes depending on how long it's been since I pulled the trigger with one or the other.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: shootnrun on December 12, 2012, 10:44:20 PM
25-06 is what I carry. Bt, wt, muleys. It's killed 10 deer in the last 4 years 100-420 yards. All died with a single shot. Accubonds seem to do that tho  :dunno:

Next choice is the 6mm
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: wilsongideon on December 12, 2012, 11:16:13 PM
.308 is where its at  :tup: ...but there is a reason they sell 100 different calibers because they all do the job.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: wilsongideon on December 12, 2012, 11:17:29 PM
:hello: 308 winchester for me. Short compact rifle, short barrel, buy ammo anywhere, kills great without ruining heaps of meat
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah: :yeah:
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: curlewkiller on December 13, 2012, 07:30:26 AM
I guess this really depends on the terrain you hunt in WY.  Is it thick, if so 30-30, if more open .270, IMHO, is the best deer gun.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: quadrafire on December 13, 2012, 09:16:17 AM
Get a .308!!!  Everything you point it at will be DRT

Is see this in a lot of posts, what is DRT?
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Skillet on December 13, 2012, 09:17:13 AM
Dead Right There
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: quadrafire on December 13, 2012, 09:25:29 AM
ahhh! Thanks
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Buckblaster on December 13, 2012, 10:15:43 AM
I don't think there is a "BEST DEER CALIBER".   Thats kind of like asking what is the best candy bar?  Everyone has their own opinion.  Just pick which flavor works for you.  My favorite flavor is 7-08 topped with Snickers coated 139 gr Hornady Interbond (but I'm not saying it is "THE BEST").
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 13, 2012, 10:19:15 AM
I don't think there is a "BEST DEER CALIBER".   Thats kind of like asking what is the best candy bar?  Everyone has their own opinion.  Just pick which flavor works for you.  My favorite flavor is 7-08 topped with Snickers coated 139 gr Hornady Interbond (but I'm not saying it is "THE BEST").

What are you nuts? Payday is the best candy bar! God, it's like some people walk around asleep all day long! :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Tight Spin on December 13, 2012, 10:20:33 AM
For the open country of Montana and wyoming I like the 270 WSM
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: JohnVH on December 13, 2012, 10:24:27 AM
the absolute best killing gun, is the one you can shoot accurately with. Its 100% about shot placement. Alot of people with the bigger calibers are worse off, cause they are flinchers!
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Huntbear on December 13, 2012, 10:31:32 AM
I don't think there is a "BEST DEER CALIBER".   Thats kind of like asking what is the best candy bar?  Everyone has their own opinion.  Just pick which flavor works for you.  My favorite flavor is 7-08 topped with Snickers coated 139 gr Hornady Interbond (but I'm not saying it is "THE BEST").

What are you nuts? Payday is the best candy bar! God, it's like some people walk around asleep all day long! :chuckle: :chuckle:

You both are wrong.... BUTTERFINGER is the best candy bar....
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: pianoman9701 on December 13, 2012, 10:37:17 AM
I don't think there is a "BEST DEER CALIBER".   Thats kind of like asking what is the best candy bar?  Everyone has their own opinion.  Just pick which flavor works for you.  My favorite flavor is 7-08 topped with Snickers coated 139 gr Hornady Interbond (but I'm not saying it is "THE BEST").

What are you nuts? Payday is the best candy bar! God, it's like some people walk around asleep all day long! :chuckle: :chuckle:

You both are wrong.... BUTTERFINGER is the best candy bar....

I can see this blowing up into a shouting match any minute!
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Huntbear on December 13, 2012, 10:42:54 AM
I don't think there is a "BEST DEER CALIBER".   Thats kind of like asking what is the best candy bar?  Everyone has their own opinion.  Just pick which flavor works for you.  My favorite flavor is 7-08 topped with Snickers coated 139 gr Hornady Interbond (but I'm not saying it is "THE BEST").

What are you nuts? Payday is the best candy bar! God, it's like some people walk around asleep all day long! :chuckle: :chuckle:

You both are wrong.... BUTTERFINGER is the best candy bar....

I can see this blowing up into a shouting match any minute!

 :lol4: :lol4: :lol4: :lol4: :lol4:

And the .257 Roberts is the best deer caliber ever devised by man... it is simply in an elite class of deer killing that no  other caliber will ever attain.....   :peep: :peep: :bumpin: :bumpin:
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: runamuk on December 13, 2012, 10:45:04 AM
I don't think there is a "BEST DEER CALIBER".   Thats kind of like asking what is the best candy bar?  Everyone has their own opinion.  Just pick which flavor works for you.  My favorite flavor is 7-08 topped with Snickers coated 139 gr Hornady Interbond (but I'm not saying it is "THE BEST").

What are you nuts? Payday is the best candy bar! God, it's like some people walk around asleep all day long! :chuckle: :chuckle:

You both are wrong.... BUTTERFINGER is the best candy bar....

I can see this blowing up into a shouting match any minute!
butterfinger sucks and not in a good way


best deer caliber is still 7mmmmmmoh8 ;) it is also best bear and elk caliber as well  :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Kowsrule30 on December 13, 2012, 12:03:35 PM
243 is the best and SPREE's are the best hard candy....    :tup:   
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Curly on December 13, 2012, 12:26:15 PM
.280 Ackley ......  and 100 grand bars are the best. :tup:
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: KillerBeee on December 13, 2012, 02:54:29 PM
I already have a .270 and a .300WSM. If I were to get another, it would either be a .308 or a 30.06. Large range of available factory ammo and stone cold killers. All the rest are cool too. Maybe trade out my .300WSM for a .300 Wm???

     Belgian Dark Chocolate...The best? Cote D'OR...  Other wise Hersheys with almonds....
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Roperfive88 on December 13, 2012, 03:22:29 PM
.25-06
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: EDARD on December 13, 2012, 04:43:32 PM
338 RUM
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: JakeLand on December 13, 2012, 05:20:35 PM
for  deer  .308 flat shooting minimal kick and you can buy shells anywhere
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: MountainWalk on December 13, 2012, 05:25:33 PM
The one you shoot best and like best and appeals to you.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: OEFvet1986 on December 13, 2012, 05:56:55 PM
Ive been a 270 fan for a long time. Good ol 30-6 is also awesome
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Dan-o on December 13, 2012, 06:41:47 PM
Get a .308!!!  Everything you point it at will be DRT

Is see this in a lot of posts, what is DRT?


Technically, this is not accurate.

The term DRT actually started when many people witnessed a marksman shooting multiple deer with a 257 Roberts.    No matter how many times he shot them, the deer never went down.    The good news was that due to the overall impotence of the 257 Roberts, none of the deer were seriously injured.

Last the crowd saw, he threw the rifle into a garade can and shouted "DARNED ROBERTS TRASH".

It was quickly shortened to DRT.






Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: 300UltraMagShooter on December 13, 2012, 06:48:25 PM


Ya'll can say what ya'll want, but I really believe you'll lose less deer if you use a larger cal.

Maybe just bad experience clouding my judgment, but shooting a deer and it getting away with a rifle just is not acceptable.  I really want them to hit the dirt right there.  Not run 100 yards and then die with no blood trail.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Huntbear on December 13, 2012, 07:15:27 PM
Get a .308!!!  Everything you point it at will be DRT

Is see this in a lot of posts, what is DRT?

blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda, blah blah blah, yadda yadda yadda..
 257 Roberts.   blah blah blah blah blah  257 Roberts,  yadda yadda yadda blah blah blah


I am not sure what you tried to say here...  this is all I can hear from you now....  :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Dan-o on December 13, 2012, 07:18:24 PM
Touche'     
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Huntbear on December 13, 2012, 07:20:30 PM
Touche'   

 :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

Where's my beer????? 
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Dan-o on December 13, 2012, 07:23:47 PM
Touche'   

 :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

Where's my beer?????


In my fridge.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: hardcorecarnivore on December 14, 2012, 02:31:43 PM
I am not looking for a mag.  Just a caliber that is very accurate, mild to moderate recoil and something that I can easily reload or buy factory ammo for.

From what you stated, .308WIN would be hard to beat!  I prefer a little faster for better down range energy and trajectory, so I would go with the 270WIN with 130gr Hornady Interbond's if not a mag cal. 
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: RadSav on December 14, 2012, 02:50:42 PM
I am not looking for a mag.  Just a caliber that is very accurate, mild to moderate recoil and something that I can easily reload or buy factory ammo for.

From what you stated, .308WIN would be hard to beat!  I prefer a little faster for better down range energy and trajectory, so I would go with the 270WIN with 130gr Hornady Interbond's if not a mag cal.

Down range energy of either a 150 or 165 grain .308 will be considerably better than that of the 130 grain .270.  Down range velocities are generally within 100 fps depending on load.  I am a fan of both the .308 and .270 Win as deer killers. And both are more than capable out to 500 yards with the right bullets.  Just wanted to make that clarification about energy.  Minimal muzzle velocity just does not add up to increased energy over mass weight.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: bobcat on December 14, 2012, 03:17:26 PM
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Down range energy of either a 150 or 165 grain .308 will be considerably better than that of the 130 grain .270. 

That's not true at all. Besides, the calculated energy is just a number that's practically meaningless. Sure the number might be slightly greater due to the heavier bullet, but that doesn't mean it will kill any better. Not saying there's anything wrong with the 308. In fact I often recommend it. But it's not superior to the 270 and I guarantee a deer would never know the difference.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Curly on December 14, 2012, 03:53:40 PM
.280 Rem or .280 AI


.270 Win ranks way up there as the possible #1 deer cartridge.  However, I think there is a case to be made for the .280 Rem.  I think it is better than the .270 Win.  It isn't as popular as the .270, but there is still a lot of factory offerings (http://www.midwayusa.com/find?sortby=1&itemsperpage=20&newcategorydimensionid=15895) for the .280 Rem these days.

The Ackley Improved version is also a great choice for someone that reloads.  And the AI is even offered as a factory round (http://www.midwayusa.com/find?sortby=1&itemsperpage=20&newcategorydimensionid=10015) now.  The AI seems to be gaining popularity.  Some rifle manufacturers (http://www.kimberamerica.com/rifles/model-84l/montana) are even offering rifles in the chambering.

Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: RadSav on December 14, 2012, 04:16:06 PM
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Down range energy of either a 150 or 165 grain .308 will be considerably better than that of the 130 grain .270. 

That's not true at all. Besides, the calculated energy is just a number that's practically meaningless. Sure the number might be slightly greater due to the heavier bullet, but that doesn't mean it will kill any better. Not saying there's anything wrong with the 308. In fact I often recommend it. But it's not superior to the 270 and I guarantee a deer would never know the difference.

"That's not true at all""Sure the number might be slightly greater due to the heavier bullet"  Which is it?  Not true or slightly better?

Don't think I said anything about the .308 being superior to the 270.  Did I?  :dunno:  I thought I was just giving clarification to a statement of wanting the 270 because it delivered more downrange energy.

Shoot either one!  Both great hunting rounds.  Both plenty capable for deer and larger animals. Both are very accurate at hunting distances.  I could care less whether someone chose to use the 308 or 270 when hunting with me.  Just don't tell me my statement is "not true at all" and then follow with a statement two sentences later saying "it might be true."
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on December 14, 2012, 04:22:07 PM
you give me a .270 topped with a 140 gr bullet preferably a hornaday and there is no North American animal I will not kill  :dunno: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: wilsongideon on December 14, 2012, 04:26:24 PM
you give me a .270 topped with a 140 gr bullet preferably a hornaday and there is no North American animal I will not kill  :dunno: :chuckle:

Shot placement is key anyways not the caliber
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: bobcat on December 14, 2012, 04:45:25 PM

"That's not true at all""Sure the number might be slightly greater due to the heavier bullet"  Which is it?  Not true or slightly better?

Don't think I said anything about the .308 being superior to the 270.  Did I?  :dunno:  I thought I was just giving clarification to a statement of wanting the 270 because it delivered more downrange energy.

Shoot either one!  Both great hunting rounds.  Both plenty capable for deer and larger animals. Both are very accurate at hunting distances.  I could care less whether someone chose to use the 308 or 270 when hunting with me.  Just don't tell me my statement is "not true at all" and then follow with a statement two sentences later saying "it might be true."


I didn't say "it might be true."

It's not true, period.

I can say that with confidence, without having to look up the actual numbers, because what you said is the 308 has "considerably more energy."

And that's simply not true. No way. It may have slightly more, depending on the particular bullets you're comparing. But, basically they are the same. Neither one has "significantly" more of anything.

Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: RadSav on December 14, 2012, 05:13:52 PM
Neither one has "significantly" more of anything.

That I agree with ;)
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: spin05 on December 14, 2012, 06:03:07 PM
.270 ........
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Sneekee23 on December 15, 2012, 12:22:07 PM
264 winchester or 257 weatherby and if I am hunting the thick stuff 30 30...yep I said it.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Lobo on December 15, 2012, 01:53:11 PM
One more vote for .270 Winchester.  I like 130 grain bullets for deer.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: hendog on December 15, 2012, 03:04:39 PM
.308 w/ Hornady 165gn SST. Lights out!
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: C-Money on December 17, 2012, 10:20:32 AM
Thanks for all of the great input!  It seems like all have good points and will get the job done!  When I do purchase I will let you all know what I bought!

Did you make a purchase yet? :dunno:
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Labs07 on December 17, 2012, 02:40:14 PM
Alright all...I put a down payment on a Mcwhorter 270 Wby.  Now just looking for a scope....I have a Sawarski on my 338 and love it but I need something with mil dot or some system that helps me hold on for distance and or windage.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Holg3107 on December 17, 2012, 02:48:16 PM
DAMN!!! Just did a search for Mcwhorter 270 Wby, not a cheap piece of iron! Good call on the caliber, should do everything you want it to and more. I have a feeling the rest of your guns may become safe queens after this one arrives. For scope, I like the Leupold Mark 4 or Zeiss Victory  :twocents:. post a picture up when it comes in.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: 300UltraMagShooter on December 17, 2012, 02:52:07 PM
I've turned over a new leaf.  Think I'm gonna look for a .223 for deer hunting.

It's all about accuracy, right?

Nice choice on the .270.  Will server you well under 1200 yards.   :P
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: C-Money on December 17, 2012, 02:53:18 PM
Crap! Should be quite a fine rifle! Great call on the cartridge.  Guess you should go with the best you can get as far as the scope goes! I am a Leupold guy, made in USA!
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: Labs07 on December 17, 2012, 02:57:03 PM
They are a expensive gun but like I told my wife while talking her into it...."they will not loose value and it will be something I have the rest of my life so really in the scheme of things is is pretty cheap." I hope it is as accurate as they claim it to be!
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: RadSav on December 17, 2012, 04:30:41 PM
Nice round :tup:  If you can afford to shoot it it's a real winner in my opinion.  I'd been thinking of having Rich Reiley make me one before he retires.  I just need to find a good Sako action for him to build it on.
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: huntnphool on December 17, 2012, 04:36:53 PM
I have a Sawarski on my 338 and love it
Is that some new fangled Austrian optics? :chuckle:
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: huntnphool on December 17, 2012, 04:37:58 PM
Sorry Labs, couldn't resist :chuckle:
Title: Re: Best deer caliber
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on December 17, 2012, 10:01:39 PM
THIS THREAD IS DONE!
 
A simple question and too many people take it to extremes....  Threads should die on their own... I'm killing this one though.
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