Post by: Carl on December 19, 2012, 06:48:01 AM
I’ve always wanted an AR (like a lot of folks on here), but couldn’t spend the $$. And buying one now seems like a lost cause.
So, my question is: Can I still buys the pieces and build one or is there a crazy run on these parts too? Along the same lines, is it a plausible idea to buy the Upper and Lower (I’m not versed on the parts yet), before they are illegal and wait until later to buy the rest? I’m looking for a way to secure an AR before it’s too late at the least cost. Purpose - coyotes, general plinking, not looking for 1,000 yarder, probably .223.
Thanks for the ideas, :tup:
Carl
Post by: lee on December 19, 2012, 07:36:23 AM
Post by: BullMagnet76 on December 19, 2012, 07:42:51 AM
Post by: Carl on December 19, 2012, 09:47:34 AM
I’m trying to educate myself as quickly as possible on all the pieces! I see Stag has a “Complete Upper” stating Stag Arms Upper Halves come complete with bolt carrier assembly and charging handle. Stag Arms Upper Halves are all factory test fired and zeroed.
And 5.56 Nato Chamber, Forged and Mil Spec., Detachable Handle/Front Post, 16" Chrome Lined 1/9 Twist For $545
From the little I know right now, the 16” barrel is versatile, but a 20” would be better for hunting. Is that right? The 1/9 twist is better for heavier bullets. :dunno:
I read on our forum that head spacing might be an issue so buy a complete upper rather than piece it together.
I’m looking for some generalities here. I think my requirements are simple: Shooting < 300 yards, yotes, ground squirrels, fun, good but not top quality ($$).
So any suggestions will be welcome as to manufacturer, barrel length and twist, uppers and lowers, etc.
I didn’t know it was possible to shoot 5.56 and .223 from the same rifle (if it’s stamped accordingly), but that seems like a very useful option too.
I hate to ask for so much advice, but time is limited evidently! :chuckle:
Thanks SO much,
Carl
Post by: Huntbear on December 19, 2012, 09:50:18 AM
Post by: Carl on December 19, 2012, 10:29:58 AM
I can't leave the office right now so I'm desperately searching the sites for lowers.
So ANY lower will do??
(I do have an FFL dealer.)
Thanks again,
Carl
Post by: lee on December 19, 2012, 11:11:33 AM
Call Surplus Arms & Ammo near McChord. (253)-691-6636
If they still have any, .... there $79 bucks and are made locally by Aero Precision.
I have assembled 3 rifles on these receivers. Went together GREAT.
Not sure if'un its true or not but I have read that there are only something like 5 receiver manufactures nationwide. They make receivers for many different rifle companys just by changing the name on the reciever.
Lee
Post by: MichaelJ on December 19, 2012, 11:16:39 AM
Not sure if'un its true or not but I have read that there are only something like 5 receiver manufactures nationwide. They make receivers for many different rifle companys just by changing the name on the reciever.
Lee
Not true... While there are a few big companies that indeed make a lot of forged milspec lowers, there are many companies out there making their own billet lowers as well.
Mike
Post by: jennyfell55 on December 19, 2012, 11:18:24 AM
Call Surplus Arms & Ammo near McChord. (253)-691-6636
If they still have any, .... there $79 bucks and are made locally by Aero Precision.
I have assembled 3 rifles on these receivers. Went together GREAT.
Lee
I second that! I built my AR with a Surplus lower receiver and it works great! The guys in the shop were also really helpful and answered any questions I could think of! It's now probably my favorite thing to shoot and it shoots fantastically!! I couldn't be happier :tup:
Post by: JimmyHoffa on December 19, 2012, 11:56:20 AM
From the little I know right now, the 16” barrel is versatile, but a 20” would be better for hunting. Is that right? The 1/9 twist is better for heavier bullets. :dunno:The 20 should give you a little more range than the 16. I think the twist will depend on how heavy you want to go, if you will be shooting heavy most of the time like the 120 gr...may want 1:7.
I didn’t know it was possible to shoot 5.56 and .223 from the same rifle (if it’s stamped accordingly), but that seems like a very useful option too.
You can safely shoot .223 in a 5.56 rifle, but are cautioned about using 5.56 in a .223 rifle. The cartridge external dimensions are equivalent, however there are differences. The 5.56 brass is thicker and it is loaded to higher pressure. The 5.56 rifles have chambers/throats that are cut slightly different than a .223 set up. Usually the throat is longer to keep pressure down near the beginning.
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Not sure if'un its true or not but I have read that there are only something like 5 receiver manufactures nationwide. They make receivers for many different rifle companys just by changing the name on the reciever.Lots of manufacturers of the different components now. Some are even using composites for the lowers. But if you have CNC, you can get all the design specs and build your own lowers (registered of course). After the 2008 election, tons of AR suppliers really sprang up.
Post by: saltwaterhillbilly on December 19, 2012, 12:42:41 PM
Post by: chrisb on December 19, 2012, 01:24:28 PM
Thanks gentlemen. :tup:
I’m trying to educate myself as quickly as possible on all the pieces! I see Stag has a “Complete Upper” stating Stag Arms Upper Halves come complete with bolt carrier assembly and charging handle. Stag Arms Upper Halves are all factory test fired and zeroed.
And 5.56 Nato Chamber, Forged and Mil Spec., Detachable Handle/Front Post, 16" Chrome Lined 1/9 Twist For $545
From the little I know right now, the 16” barrel is versatile, but a 20” would be better for hunting. Is that right? The 1/9 twist is better for heavier bullets. :dunno:
I read on our forum that head spacing might be an issue so buy a complete upper rather than piece it together.
I’m looking for some generalities here. I think my requirements are simple: Shooting < 300 yards, yotes, ground squirrels, fun, good but not top quality ($$).
So any suggestions will be welcome as to manufacturer, barrel length and twist, uppers and lowers, etc.
I didn’t know it was possible to shoot 5.56 and .223 from the same rifle (if it’s stamped accordingly), but that seems like a very useful option too.
I hate to ask for so much advice, but time is limited evidently! :chuckle:
Thanks SO much,
Carl
$545 is almost robbery for an upper IMO. Check out Palmetto State Armory, they are always running specials on them for much less.
Post by: NW-GSP on December 19, 2012, 01:30:02 PM
Post by: Carl on December 19, 2012, 01:42:18 PM
$545 is almost robbery for an upper IMO. Check out Palmetto State Armory, they are always running specials on them for much less.
Yup, I checked them early today and all sold out too!
I'm only looking for a lower and no one has any. :bash:
Carl
Post by: grundy53 on December 19, 2012, 01:49:58 PM
Post by: hughjorgan on December 19, 2012, 02:12:02 PM
Post by: Carl on December 19, 2012, 02:17:44 PM
I guess my hunt for an AR is over. :cryriver:
Thanks for the help guys.
Carl
Post by: et1702 on December 19, 2012, 02:24:05 PM
http://www.dpmsinc.com/Forged-AR15-Lower-Receiver-Assembly-Unassembled_p_1487.html (http://www.dpmsinc.com/Forged-AR15-Lower-Receiver-Assembly-Unassembled_p_1487.html)
DPMS seems to think they can still get you one in 7 to 10 days!
ET
Post by: et1702 on December 19, 2012, 02:27:55 PM
http://www.rguns.net/rifles/rifles-semiauto-ar15-lowers-556rguns-stripped.shtml (http://www.rguns.net/rifles/rifles-semiauto-ar15-lowers-556rguns-stripped.shtml)
Here's one in Desert Digital camo that is AVAILABLE.
ET
Post by: HighCountryHunter88 on December 19, 2012, 02:30:48 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on December 19, 2012, 02:33:07 PM
Post by: Carl on December 19, 2012, 03:13:30 PM
www.spokaneguntrader.com (http://www.spokaneguntrader.com) has a couple complete AR's for sale.
Thanks CampMeat, :tup: but I can't swing the full price right now.
Carl
Post by: bearhunter99 on December 19, 2012, 03:17:56 PM
Post by: marlin on December 19, 2012, 03:53:21 PM
Post by: mebco09 on December 19, 2012, 05:03:42 PM
Everywhere I tried is sold out of lowers – stripped or complete. They can’t keep their web sites up to date.
I guess my hunt for an AR is over. :cryriver:
Thanks for the help guys.
Carl
Calm down brother. It is going to take a while for barry to get all the republicans in the house to agree to ban 'assault weapons'. In the meantime, the AR producers are going to go into overdrive building stripped lowers. I bet in a few weeks the price and availability is better. BUT, once you have one in front of you, don't hesitate. Buy it. I would buy anything under $200. IMO
Post by: Carl on December 19, 2012, 06:10:29 PM
Post by: Austrian Hunter on December 19, 2012, 06:23:42 PM
Post by: gotshot on December 19, 2012, 06:30:15 PM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 19, 2012, 06:45:20 PM
When will they realize that gun laws only make it harder for honest people to get a gun. You think the criminal element gives a rip?
Post by: Carl on December 19, 2012, 08:54:02 PM
bought my wife a Ruger last night and only had to wat half an hour but did have concealed permit.
I have a concealed carry too. If I get a lower in front of me, maybe that will speed thing up.
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 19, 2012, 09:00:56 PM
bought my wife a Ruger last night and only had to wat half an hour but did have concealed permit.
I have a concealed carry too. If I get a lower in front of me, maybe that will speed thing up.
CWP only helps with handgun purchases. Has no bearing on rifle or shotgun purchases.
Post by: KopperBuck on December 19, 2012, 09:22:02 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on December 19, 2012, 09:30:14 PM
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on December 19, 2012, 09:30:39 PM
My background went through in less than 30 seconds. The salesman about fell over, he had people waiting 3-4 hrs. Got lucky I guess.
Yep, you hit it right! Sometimes it took 3 hours just to get an open line, then there was a long wait even when you got through. Today was absolutely insane!
Post by: joesmithz28 on December 21, 2012, 04:29:33 PM
Post by: huntnphool on December 21, 2012, 04:42:56 PM
Post by: Caseyd on December 21, 2012, 04:48:08 PM
I've been wanting to build a AR57, since it holds 50 rounds in the top clip I'm assuming it will be on the ban list?
Yes