Post by: steeleywhopper on December 19, 2012, 10:59:37 PM
Post by: KFhunter on December 19, 2012, 11:10:28 PM
Maybe once this dies down a little, I'll be in the market this next fall sometime unless a smoking deal comes my way.
Post by: huntnphool on December 19, 2012, 11:11:56 PM
Post by: silverdalesauer on December 20, 2012, 12:00:09 AM
Post by: MidgetIdjit on December 20, 2012, 01:45:14 AM
if you were going to get a good one that would protect your assets which one would it be?
I bought a Sturdy last year. Cost a bit but I'd prefer to pay a bit more for a safe that can't be pried apart with screwdrivers or the welds busted with a sledgehammer.
How much do you want to pay?
Post by: steeleywhopper on December 20, 2012, 02:54:25 AM
Post by: LEN on December 20, 2012, 04:11:15 AM
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Post by: newbie76 on December 20, 2012, 05:32:11 AM
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Post by: MADMAX on December 20, 2012, 05:43:45 AM
Got mine (liberty colonial 30) for just under $1500 total delivered and bolted in place
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on December 20, 2012, 06:01:07 AM
I would pay up to 1500.00Cabelas has good deals on Liberty safes which are made in USA.Costco safes are not.
I bought mine a couple weeks back, woodsman 30 $999 24...$879
Classic 30 $1410 could have had it for $1219 when I bought the woodsman. Also had a $75 off on purchase of 999 or more and 50 pts so It was under $900 Costco had a 48 gun Winchester (China, I believe) for $799 at that time. Besides the import issue, I was worried about the weight of that one.
Post by: Knocker of rocks on December 20, 2012, 06:53:12 AM
It's nice to buy local (REI, Costco and Amazon exempted)
Post by: matt345 on December 20, 2012, 06:55:44 AM
Post by: royalbull on December 20, 2012, 07:07:22 AM
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on December 20, 2012, 07:14:54 AM
Post by: et1702 on December 20, 2012, 07:19:57 AM
Looks like you are from Snohomish. Take a drive to Monroe and check out "Elite Lock and Safes." Great shop in shopping center just behind the Shell station on Hwy 2 and Woods Creek road. Small shop, but good selection (and good prices) of high quality safes.
ET
Post by: gallion_t on December 20, 2012, 07:23:33 AM
I would pay up to 1500.00Cabelas has good deals on Liberty safes which are made in USA.Costco safes are not.
I bought mine a couple weeks back, woodsman 30 $999 24...$879
Classic 30 $1410 could have had it for $1219 when I bought the woodsman. Also had a $75 off on purchase of 999 or more and 50 pts so It was under $900 Costco had a 48 gun Winchester (China, I believe) for $799 at that time. Besides the import issue, I was worried about the weight of that one.
Does the Woodsman have 4-way locking bolts?
I am also in the market for a safe and that is of high importantance to me. I was going to order the Bighorn B6030EL from costco after Christmas, but they just pulled it from their website this week so now im back to shopping.
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on December 20, 2012, 07:28:58 AM
Post by: KimberRich on December 20, 2012, 07:57:07 AM
Best safe out there in my opinion, made in the US, and you can customize it to exactly what you want.
Contact Western Safe in Mukilteo. They'll deliver it and set it up for free and he's a hell of a nice guy.
Post by: Wacenturion on December 20, 2012, 08:03:28 AM
NW Safe in Enumclaw :tup:
:yeah: Bought a browning Prestige model there a couple years ago. Upper end Browning which on sale was less than the lower-mid range Brownings at Wholesale etc. I like Browning safes because you can store 10 guns without scopes (shotguns, .22's etc.) on the inside door before you even get into the inside storage Great service, delivery and set up. Lots to look at and great prices. If you don't check them out before you buy....your loss. :twocents:
Post by: gallion_t on December 20, 2012, 09:00:38 AM
Fort Knox. :twocents:
Best safe out there in my opinion, made in the US, and you can customize it to exactly what you want.
Contact Western Safe in Mukilteo. They'll deliver it and set it up for free and he's a hell of a nice guy.
Where is Western Safe located at in Mukilteo? I work there and use to live there and have never heard of them before. I did a quick search and nothing popped up. I would be really interested in looking at what they have.
Post by: high country on December 20, 2012, 11:59:52 AM
Post by: huntnphool on December 20, 2012, 12:54:28 PM
When you get to narrowing the choices down, I like to grab the door and see how quickly I can move it....like I were fanning a fire. A good safe will have a HEAVY door. Most safes are literally opened like a can from the door. And no matter what.....bolt it down, and if you can bolt it down tight against the off hinge side, even better.I've got a Liberty Washington that has a door like that, heavy as hell.
Post by: et1702 on December 20, 2012, 01:10:26 PM
Get a CANNON gun safe. US Made w/transferrable warranty.
Cannon Vs. Competitors (one X is Canon only, two XX is offered by Cannon & Competitors)
Why Cannon Safes are superior
Who We are Cannon Competitor
45 Years of Manufacturing Experience X
Three High Volume Factories X
Industry Leader for Security X
Industry Leading Paint Process X
USA Made Cannon and Traditional Series X
The Cannon Warranty* Cannon Competitor
Lifetime Residential Repair & Replacement Warranty X
Free Cross Country Shipping when safe is replaced X
100% No Cost Replacement of safe after a fire X
100% No Cost Replacement Of Safe after Burglary attack X
Free On-Site safe Repairs for Burglary attack X
100% No Cost Replacement of Safe after a natural Flood X
Free On-Site Repairs for natural Floods X
Warranty Transfers if safe is sold X
Cannon Security Features Cannon Competitor
UL® RSC security rating exceeds CA DOJ requirements. X
Full length Jeweler Lug to prevent prying attacks X
Self locking détente system to lock bolts X
Anti Pry Tabs protect from prying attacks X
Commercial Grade Type 1 Electronic Locks X
Surefire Multiple Re-Lockers X X
3 Layers 6o Rockwell C Scale Steel Hard-Plate to Protect the Lock X
Double Steel Doors for Added Security & Fire Protection X
Internal Hinges with lifetime warranty X
Cannon Fire Protection Cannon Competitor
ETL® Certified Fire Ratings X
Three fin proprietary intumescent seal to keep out smoke X
2 step door on premium models X
Cannon Interior Features Cannon Competitor
Patented Custom Gun Rack System X
Lint Free Upholstery X X
Barrel Down & Stock Down Storage Options X
Padded Interior Flooring X
Oak fascia board on Traditional interiors X
Automatic Multidirectional LED Interior Lights X
Interior Electrical Outlets X
Multiple Gun Capacity Options X X
Multiple Size Options X X
Additional Benefits Cannon Competitor
Multiple Color Options X X
Long-Term Savings X
*Excludes Safari Series, H1, H2 and Wall Vault
Post by: WilliamIV on December 20, 2012, 04:36:18 PM
Post by: sled on December 20, 2012, 04:41:01 PM
NW Safe in Enumclaw :tup:BE SAfe is worth the drive! :tup:
Post by: Snopczynski on December 20, 2012, 11:44:37 PM
The first couple I saw are:
Liberty Pro Vaults are a Liberty Centurion, they are US Made. Watchout for the centurions with internal hinges though, they are chinese made. A full line dealer will have US made product, and off brand dealer like lowes will have the chinese stuff.
We are competitive with Cabelas pricing, as a matter of fact, we will beat anyones pricing on the same product.
We do offer delivery like costco to your home for less than what costco would deliver the same safe for. As a matter of fact, we also significantly drop the price of the safe if you want to pick it up, thus you save even more.
I can think of quite a few reasons why Liberty, Superior, Summit, and Browning Pro Series safes in my opinion are a better value than a Cannon safe. The biggest one being the body welding and door shell welding. 2nd being the warranty. Google Search "Cannon Safe problem", you would be horrified by what you find.
The woodsman does not have 4 way locking bolts, it is only covered on two sides of the door.
You do get what you pay for, but we do try to carry the best safe made in every tier or class that each manufacturer offers. Currently I stock 7 different brands of gun safes, I have over 100 gun safes on display in the showroom, and I have somewhere between 500-600 safes in stock in my store in Enumclaw.
I feel the best gun safe you can buy (if your basing this off security and fire protection) is a Graffunder. The best safes you can buy are TL30X6's, these can also be purchased and converted over to gun safe interiors. We carry a line called Original Safe Platinums for the TL30X6's.
Post by: jaymark6655 on December 21, 2012, 06:30:34 AM
They seem to have about the same construction. Liberty as a warranty that can transfer will and comes with free in home work and parts for installation of a new safe in the event of fire or attempted break in.
Personally I just like the fire rating, unless someone else knows one that is higher. You have to figure, fire department could show up too late, decide not to put fire but rather contain it, or something out of there control (on another call or lack of water, who knows :dunno: )
Post by: TheHunt on December 21, 2012, 06:42:09 AM
I am with NW Safe in Enumclaw. If you guys have questions, I can answer them.
I feel the best gun safe you can buy (if your basing this off security and fire protection) is a Graffunder. The best safes you can buy are TL30X6's, these can also be purchased and converted over to gun safe interiors. We carry a line called Original Safe Platinums for the TL30X6's.
Don't the NW Safe in Enumclaw have an annual sale? Can you share some additional information on that sale?
Post by: high country on December 21, 2012, 06:45:45 AM
Post by: jaymark6655 on December 21, 2012, 07:10:50 AM
Fire ratings are good, but the truth is smoke and water will be the killer if it isn't fire itself.All the good safes have a seal that expands. Doesn't matter how much smoke and water there is if your nice wood stocks or any paperwork you might keep in there hit there ignition temp.
Post by: high country on December 21, 2012, 07:27:48 AM
You can add cinder block walls and threaded steel pipe sprinklers to keep it all safe. The block can be masked to look like something other than a looters gold mine;)
Post by: jaymark6655 on December 21, 2012, 07:41:47 AM
Not too big on the sprinkler systems, seen alot of bad "floods" when somebody manages to accidently activates one in their house.
Worse I ever seen was an oil furnace backfire, everything was covered in oil soot smoke.
Most guns probably can do okay with smoke and water as long as you can get to them and clean them in a resonable amount of time.
Everything else, I recommend a waterproof/airtight container inside the safe. I don't think any gun safes are water proof.
Post by: Snopczynski on December 21, 2012, 08:07:35 AM
We do usually have one in may and september. Howevere, if you wait from september until may, the manufacturers have price increases every year in January and february. So the safes will go on sale in may, but they won't be as discounted as they would be up to december & January range before the price increase. We have a year end clearance going right now, I would take advantage of it. We got word from two of the factories of the increases already.I am with NW Safe in Enumclaw. If you guys have questions, I can answer them.
I feel the best gun safe you can buy (if your basing this off security and fire protection) is a Graffunder. The best safes you can buy are TL30X6's, these can also be purchased and converted over to gun safe interiors. We carry a line called Original Safe Platinums for the TL30X6's.
Don't the NW Safe in Enumclaw have an annual sale? Can you share some additional information on that sale?
You guys would be suprised how long a house fire near the fire station will still burn. There was a fire in Bonney lake that started at night while the home owners were sleeping. They got out and the FD showed up within 10 minutes (3 miles away). The house had open flames for HOURS, and the FD was on site for a good 6 hours until they had the hot spots put out. The fire got so hot it melted the wheels on the cars in the garage. It all has to do with what combustibles you have in the house as too how long the fire will burn. From experience, safes under 60 minutes tend to get damaged very badly in a total loss house fire. The higher above 60 minutes you go, the better, and better the inside of the safe will look. Safes like the Superiors and Summits have two fire seals on the door to help keep smoke, soot, and water out of them. Safes are tested for when the temp inside rises above 350 degrees. Above 350 is when paper starts to char. Paper ignites at 418 degrees, powder ignites at 550 degrees. Technically ammo and powder would be ok in a safe if you had a good fire rating. I don't keep my powder, or most of my ammo in my safe. I don't have the room. The inside of safes get steamed from moisture coming out of the fire liner. You want to get them open asap, the longer you wait, the bigger the chance of loss you have on the firearm finishes.
Post by: eburg127 on December 22, 2012, 09:06:54 AM
Post by: brush hunter on December 23, 2012, 09:34:40 AM
Post by: Hunting Cowboy on December 23, 2012, 09:56:35 AM
NW Safe in Enumclaw :tup:
I agree! I bought a Liberty Safe from them a few years ago. I have not regretted it. Suggestion......By bigger than you think you need. I highly recommend NW Safe Co.
Post by: KimberRich on January 17, 2013, 02:16:36 PM
Fort Knox. :twocents:
Best safe out there in my opinion, made in the US, and you can customize it to exactly what you want.
Contact Western Safe in Mukilteo. They'll deliver it and set it up for free and he's a hell of a nice guy.
Where is Western Safe located at in Mukilteo? I work there and use to live there and have never heard of them before. I did a quick search and nothing popped up. I would be really interested in looking at what they have.
Per the Fort Knox Website:
Western Safe LLC
PO Box 1191
Mukilteo, WA 98275
1-866-480-5669
sales@westernsafellc.com
Post by: Doc Sauce on January 17, 2013, 02:38:47 PM
Watch their videos, watch them cut holes in their safe just to try to break into the thing... and watch them break into the popular safes too. It's amazing.
http://www.sturdysafe.com/ (http://www.sturdysafe.com/)
I do not work for them. I just did my reading and made objective observations. I tried to cut out "salesmanship" and just look at the "beef".
Whatever you get, secure it. No safe will protect anything after being dragged away by a truck and worked on with no time limit.