Post by: huntnnw on December 21, 2012, 06:22:34 AM
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Post by: h20hunter on December 21, 2012, 07:16:34 AM
Post by: jackelope on December 21, 2012, 07:30:35 AM
Quote from: bigbullshedhunter on December 06, 2012, 07:44:17 PM (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=112062.msg1471968#msg1471968)
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Just wanna get some thoughts on the idea of it. Ain't nothin out there big enough to trap elk antlers. Jst deer
It's not legal, but it is sure creative. So here is your crosswalk. Under RCW 77.08.010(65) the department defines what it means “to hunt”.......: "To hunt" and its derivatives means an effort to kill, injure, capture, or harass a wild animal or wild bird.
WAC 232-12-287 states that you can’t possess wildlife found dead and antlers possessed must be naturally shed. RCW 77.15.410(a) and (b) speaks to illegal hunting in regards to time, manner and area/closed season. Bottom line, this type of device at a minimum would be considered harassment ultimately end up in illegal take/possession. For instance, what would happen if a bull that was not ready to shed was entrapped in this device overnight when the trap was not attended. The animal could become critically exhausted and expire. The person setting the trap could be cited for illegally hunting of big game based on the statute definitions. OG
WAC 232-12-287 Possession of dead wildlife. (1) Except as authorized by permit of the director or by subsection (2) of this section, it is unlawful to possess wildlife found dead. This rule does not prohibit the possession of naturally shed antlers of deer, elk, or moose.
(2) An individual may remove and dispose of wildlife found dead on his or her property or an adjoining public roadway. Before removing the wildlife, the individual shall, by telephone, notify the department or the Washington state patrol communications office, and shall provide his or her name, address, telephone number, and the description and location of the wildlife. The individual may remove the wildlife for disposal only, and may not retain the wildlife for personal use or consumption. Other laws and rules may apply to the disposal, including rules of the department of health (WAC 246-203-120). Wildlife removed under this section remain the property of the state.
[Statutory Authority: RCW 77.12.047. 03-16-087 (Order 03-175), § 232-12-287, filed 8/5/03, effective 9/5/03. Statutory Authority: RCW 77.12.040. 95-10-026, § 232-12-287, filed 4/26/95, effective 5/27/95; 81-12-029 (Order 165), § 232-12-287, filed 6/1/81. Formerly WAC 232-12-180.]
RCW 77.08.010
Definitions.
The definitions in this section apply throughout this title or rules adopted under this title unless the context clearly requires otherwise.
(65) "To hunt" and its derivatives means an effort to kill, injure, capture, or harass a wild animal or wild bird.
RCW 77.15.410
Unlawful hunting of big game -- Penalty.
(1) A person is guilty of unlawful hunting of big game in the second degree if the person:
(a) Hunts for, takes, or possesses big game and the person does not have and possess all licenses, tags, or permits required under this title; or
(b) Violates any department rule regarding seasons, bag or possession limits, closed areas including game reserves, closed times, or any other rule governing the hunting, taking, or possession of big game.
(2) A person is guilty of unlawful hunting of big game in the first degree if the person commits the act described in subsection (1) of this section and:
(a) The person hunts for, takes, or possesses three or more big game animals within the same course of events; or
(b) The act occurs within five years of the date of a prior conviction under this title involving unlawful hunting, killing, possessing, or taking big game.
(3)(a) Unlawful hunting of big game in the second degree is a gross misdemeanor. Upon conviction of an offense involving killing or possession of big game taken during a closed season, closed area, without the proper license, tag, or permit using an unlawful method, or in excess of the bag or possession limit, the department shall revoke all of the person's hunting licenses and tags and order a suspension of the person's hunting privileges for two years.
(b) Unlawful hunting of big game in the first degree is a class C felony. Upon conviction, the department shall revoke all of the person's hunting licenses or tags and order the person's hunting privileges suspended for ten years.
(4) For the purposes of this section, "same course of events" means within one twenty-four hour period, or a pattern of conduct composed of a series of acts that are unlawful under subsection (1) of this section, over a period of time evidencing a continuity of purpose.
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Post by: Devinshoe on December 21, 2012, 08:00:36 AM
Post by: headshot5 on December 21, 2012, 08:20:00 AM
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This is the post OG made yesterday. Food for thought if nothing else.
Luckily it is a voluntary shed trap, and the deer can avoid it if it makes them uncomfortable or feel harassed.
Post by: shedcrazy on December 21, 2012, 08:44:40 AM
Post by: runamuk on December 21, 2012, 08:57:28 AM
Post by: h20hunter on December 21, 2012, 09:09:59 AM
Post by: PolarBear on December 21, 2012, 09:11:57 AM
Post by: Broken Arrow on December 21, 2012, 09:24:10 AM
Seriously?
Shed trap post
Shut up.....!
Post by: PolarBear on December 21, 2012, 09:52:33 AM
PB, read above. We got the regs from LE yesterday. It's illegal to use a shed trap.Good! Thank you.
Post by: dmartin on December 21, 2012, 11:08:29 AM
Post by: HornHoarder on December 21, 2012, 11:29:17 AM
Post by: dmartin on December 21, 2012, 12:01:20 PM
The above statement you posted seems like you are enforcing the law.. "you have been quoted".. all I'm saying is people will do it either way so in the future, put nice find :tup: and move on. You're not trying to keep them from getting in trouble you guys are preaching that "Using shed traps will get you fined and you'll lose your hunting rights besides. Good luck posting this on a public forum."
Post by: Dr. Death on December 21, 2012, 12:11:15 PM
I just love how everyone is a cop, or attorney or judge... whats the deal :dunno: and I'm sure its NOT a shed trap, its to keep the deer out of the flowers... :chuckle:
Post by: antlerking on December 21, 2012, 12:23:29 PM
Post by: dmartin on December 21, 2012, 12:26:22 PM
Post by: Maverick on December 21, 2012, 01:18:19 PM
Post by: Bigtine96 on December 21, 2012, 01:21:17 PM
im confused on how we got on antler traps on this page? he didnt ever mention a trap for this shed :dunno:
I'm thinking he edited it when people started calling him out.
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on December 21, 2012, 01:27:32 PM
In regards to "naturally shed".. A snare that falls off in a trap is still naturally shed.
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on December 21, 2012, 01:29:03 PM
Post by: Arteman on December 22, 2012, 10:51:48 PM
Post by: madmack76 on December 22, 2012, 11:10:00 PM
Post by: PolarBear on December 22, 2012, 11:17:32 PM
Post by: deaner on December 23, 2012, 12:43:20 AM
Post by: danderson on December 23, 2012, 07:36:18 AM
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on December 23, 2012, 08:55:50 AM
the guy posted a pic of a nice shed, not a buck tangled up in a shed trap. leave it be. come to think of it, ive never seen a pic of a buck caught in a shed trap, and ive seen a lot of messed up $*&^ online.
:yeah:
Post by: huntnnw on December 24, 2012, 06:31:08 AM
Post by: MLBowhunting on December 26, 2012, 10:42:05 AM