Post by: shanevg on January 06, 2013, 02:29:22 PM
Check out the comment that Paul Szigety posted on my video last night. I couldn't believe seeing something like this and I haven't removed this one yet. Obviously this is a threat against me. What I'm wondering is if any of you know if this is reportable to the cops? I would assume a threat like this is illegal and his account is linked directly to his Google+ account which tells where he lives (WA DC of all places), as well as his email address etc.
Comment:
Paul Szigety 17 hours ago
I pack a fully loaded smith & wesson 686P whenever I hike ... If we ever cross paths (Ive hiked to the summit of Mt. Baker and plan on doing it again at some point in my life) and I see you taking shots at animals .... in season or not .... my targets on you for sure ... I don't miss either ...
Shane's Mt. Baker Wilderness (WA State) Black Bear - October 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYojm1fuFIo#ws)
What do you guys think? What's the best way to respond?
Post by: MADMAX on January 06, 2013, 02:30:36 PM
Post by: DoubleJ on January 06, 2013, 02:31:07 PM
Post by: NW-GSP on January 06, 2013, 02:31:54 PM
Post by: csaaphill on January 06, 2013, 02:32:43 PM
Post by: Austrian Hunter on January 06, 2013, 02:35:48 PM
Post by: NWBREW on January 06, 2013, 02:36:42 PM
Post by: csaaphill on January 06, 2013, 02:38:51 PM
Internet tough guy and all that Ive heard of antis killing hunters so be carefull out there.
Post by: bearpaw on January 06, 2013, 02:40:20 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 06, 2013, 02:41:48 PM
Call the fbi, that is a direct threat, no beating around the bush there.No doubt!
Post by: shanevg on January 06, 2013, 02:44:06 PM
On a side note - according to his Google+ account he works for Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation which is a government organization. I may even be able to get him to lose his job for this one. :)
https://plus.google.com/u/0/105840602409793530460/about (https://plus.google.com/u/0/105840602409793530460/about)
http://www.pbgc.gov (http://www.pbgc.gov)
Post by: dreamunelk on January 06, 2013, 02:45:13 PM
Call your local sheriff and see what they say.
Post by: JLS on January 06, 2013, 02:46:08 PM
Post by: Bob33 on January 06, 2013, 02:47:34 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on January 06, 2013, 02:48:26 PM
Want to hear how this one turns out.
Post by: huntnphool on January 06, 2013, 02:49:10 PM
Not that I don't want to turn him in. I just don't know who to turn him in to. Do I call the Lynden PD? The FBI? How do you even get in touch with the FBI?call them all!
On a side note - according to his Google+ account he works for Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation which is a government organization. I may even be able to get him to lose his job for this one. :)
https://plus.google.com/u/0/105840602409793530460/about (https://plus.google.com/u/0/105840602409793530460/about)
http://www.pbgc.gov (http://www.pbgc.gov)
Post by: Curly on January 06, 2013, 02:49:37 PM
Post by: MADMAX on January 06, 2013, 02:52:53 PM
Post by: runamuk on January 06, 2013, 02:56:22 PM
That is scary. If he is serious about his threat, I'd assume he would be willing to shoot any hunter he happens to come across. FBI definitely needs to pay him a visit.google fbi they have a division that deals with internet threats if I remember right because I used it related to a dog forum where we were getting threatened with death by alf and elf types
Post by: Bean Counter on January 06, 2013, 02:58:04 PM
Also, I don't know if people can delete their comments on Youtube or not, but you might start with doing a Print Screen or something and saving the evidence if that will be necessary.
Post by: Bob33 on January 06, 2013, 03:02:46 PM
There is a link for contacting the FBI.
Post by: bearpaw on January 06, 2013, 03:19:11 PM
Post by: Brushbuster on January 06, 2013, 03:22:06 PM
Post by: Bob33 on January 06, 2013, 03:24:23 PM
1110 Third Avenue
Seattle, WA 98101-2904
seattle.fbi.gov
(206) 622-0460
Post by: KopperBuck on January 06, 2013, 03:24:43 PM
Post by: 3nails on January 06, 2013, 03:26:48 PM
Post by: Time Immemorial on January 06, 2013, 03:28:06 PM
Maybe I should turn them in for internet threats :tup:
Post by: Skyvalhunter on January 06, 2013, 03:30:32 PM
Post by: deaner on January 06, 2013, 03:31:33 PM
Post by: Bob33 on January 06, 2013, 03:31:49 PM
Get threats on here all tha time :dunno:Have you had death threats?
Maybe I should turn them in for internet threats :tup:
This is a serious post. Please keep your comments on topic.
Post by: bearpaw on January 06, 2013, 03:33:22 PM
Get threats on here all tha time :dunno:
Maybe I should turn them in for internet threats :tup:
If you are getting actual threats on the forum please advise us, we will put a stop to that.
Post by: hrd2fnd on January 06, 2013, 03:37:13 PM
Get threats on here all tha time :dunno:If you're at all serious with your comment, then yes by all means you should. threats of any form need more people to be aware o f especially threats from the internet.
Maybe I should turn them in for internet threats :tup:
Post by: jaymark6655 on January 06, 2013, 03:48:55 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 06, 2013, 03:58:32 PM
Post by: h20hunter on January 06, 2013, 04:01:07 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 06, 2013, 04:05:16 PM
Post by: DoubleJ on January 06, 2013, 04:06:36 PM
http://www.pbgc.gov/ (http://www.pbgc.gov/)
Wonder if the federal gov't would be interested to know that one of their employees is making death threats towards other people?
Post by: Doc Sauce on January 06, 2013, 04:06:45 PM
Post by: Time Immemorial on January 06, 2013, 04:09:15 PM
Post by: 300UltraMagShooter on January 06, 2013, 04:11:23 PM
Post by: 762Armo on January 06, 2013, 04:23:06 PM
Post by: Gundy on January 06, 2013, 04:28:43 PM
Post by: DoubleJ on January 06, 2013, 04:31:10 PM
@ Paul_szigety is his twitter handle for anyone who would like to drop him a line ;)
Now, don't go harassing the guy. That's illegal too.
Post by: Gundy on January 06, 2013, 04:36:05 PM
@ Paul_szigety is his twitter handle for anyone who would like to drop him a line ;)
Now, don't go harassing the guy. That's illegal too.
LOL!!!! No law in the land says you cant send a message to a guy via twitter...for Christ sake!
Post by: JohnVH on January 06, 2013, 04:40:00 PM
Post by: jrebel on January 06, 2013, 04:45:34 PM
Post by: CementFinisher on January 06, 2013, 05:00:57 PM
Post by: MadHatter on January 06, 2013, 05:02:18 PM
That being said, I would report it to your local LE department and the FBI. Take a screen shot of it, in the event that he decides to delete it. This needs to be reported in case you are put into a situation with this guy and something happens so it is documented. That way you have a trail. When you report it, if it is substantiated I would also take the report and go to your local superior court and file for an order of protection. That will protect you as well in the event that you have a run in, and if something does happen you can show that you took the steps needed with the legal system to protect yourself.
I would also make sure that you take a screen grab of his picture for yourself so you can keep an eye on your surroundings to make sure that he isn't around you. While I wouldn't be paranoid about it, I would defiantly commit his face to memory. If you don't carry already I would start, you just never know with some of these environmental whacko's.
Post by: buckhorn2 on January 06, 2013, 05:09:46 PM
Post by: TONTO on January 06, 2013, 05:26:13 PM
Post by: BullMagnet76 on January 06, 2013, 05:53:48 PM
Turn him in to the cops for internet threats
:yeah:
Post by: Kc_Kracker on January 06, 2013, 06:37:17 PM
Comment:
Paul Szigety 17 hours ago
I pack a fully loaded smith & wesson 686P whenever I hike ... If we ever cross paths I hope you dont have your scope with you because ill be toast unless im within close range, looks like your a great shot shane from that amazing video so i better talk smack from FAR FAR away. Ill be the guy running away with th4e brown stain in the back of my hippie knickers
hey shane i fixed it for him :tup:
by all means call the Seattle field office for the FBI
1110 3rd Avenue
Seattle, WA 98101-2904
Phone: (206) 622-0460
E-mail: Seattle.fbi@ic.fbi.gov
http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulcszigety (http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulcszigety)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/paul_c_szigety/8305298248/#in/photosof-paul_c_szigety/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/paul_c_szigety/8305298248/#in/photosof-paul_c_szigety/)
https://twitter.com/paul_szigety (https://twitter.com/paul_szigety)
https://plus.google.com/105840602409793530460/posts (https://plus.google.com/105840602409793530460/posts)
hes all over the net one search and all you see is this schmucks pic :o
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on January 06, 2013, 06:56:54 PM
-Steve
Post by: Kc_Kracker on January 06, 2013, 07:01:47 PM
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on January 06, 2013, 07:07:44 PM
Post by: Bob33 on January 06, 2013, 07:11:53 PM
If someone didn't hack his account then this guy is a true idiot.Definite possibility. Sure does not appear to be the type but who knows.
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on January 06, 2013, 07:15:59 PM
If someone didn't hack his account then this guy is a true idiot.Definite possibility. Sure does not appear to be the type but who knows.
After going and reading his other posts on other videos I am convinced this guy made the threat himself. Right after he commented on Shane's video he commented on another Mt Baker video and it is mainly talking about him visiting Mt. Baker.
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on January 06, 2013, 07:17:00 PM
Post by: Bob33 on January 06, 2013, 07:17:49 PM
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on January 06, 2013, 07:19:10 PM
GoPro HD HERO Camera: Epic Mt. Baker Backcountry 2011 [HD] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygEFhh1MPOE#noexternalembed-ws)
Post by: longrangekiller on January 06, 2013, 07:31:45 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 06, 2013, 07:41:58 PM
Post by: Doc Sauce on January 06, 2013, 08:56:22 PM
It is kind of strange that he hates how we shoot and kill animals, but his paycheck comes from an institution which Tomahawks and JDAMS buildings, killing all kinds of PEOPLE as well as animals...
Post by: RifleRidge on January 06, 2013, 08:57:43 PM
turn it over to the cops
:yeah: DITTO THAT ....
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on January 06, 2013, 09:08:23 PM
Post by: TheHunt on January 06, 2013, 09:52:18 PM
Post by: S&W38spc on January 06, 2013, 10:00:11 PM
Not that I don't want to turn him in. I just don't know who to turn him in to. Do I call the Lynden PD? The FBI? How do you even get in touch with the FBI?I think its awesome you are finding out everything about this loser before turning him in! :tup:
On a side note - according to his Google+ account he works for Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation which is a government organization. I may even be able to get him to lose his job for this one. :)
https://plus.google.com/u/0/105840602409793530460/about (https://plus.google.com/u/0/105840602409793530460/about)
http://www.pbgc.gov (http://www.pbgc.gov)
Post by: huntingfool7 on January 06, 2013, 10:06:26 PM
Post by: silverdalesauer on January 06, 2013, 10:10:54 PM
Post by: Todd_ID on January 06, 2013, 10:18:31 PM
Post by: rtspring on January 06, 2013, 10:22:21 PM
Post by: Todd_ID on January 06, 2013, 10:35:12 PM
Where did my post go?I deleted it. Check your PM's.
Post by: rtspring on January 06, 2013, 10:39:29 PM
Post by: shanevg on January 07, 2013, 09:54:21 AM
I would love to see if/when a federal agent or police officer comes to visit him at work about his threat to shoot someone. :)
Post by: lokidog on January 07, 2013, 09:56:33 AM
I have contacted Lynden PD and submitted an online request to the Seattle FBI office. If the Lynden PD route doesn't go anywhere I will keep pursuing different options including calling Seattle FBI office and contacting HR Department at his place of work and letting them know that someone with a Google+ account linked to their business is threatening to shoot people. It'll be interesting to see how this turns out.
I would love to see if/when a federal agent or police officer comes to visit him at work about his threat to shoot someone. :)
:tup:
Post by: JLS on January 07, 2013, 09:57:41 AM
I have contacted Lynden PD and submitted an online request to the Seattle FBI office. If the Lynden PD route doesn't go anywhere I will keep pursuing different options including calling Seattle FBI office and contacting HR Department at his place of work and letting them know that someone with a Google+ account linked to their business is threatening to shoot people. It'll be interesting to see how this turns out.
I would love to see if/when a federal agent or police officer comes to visit him at work about his threat to shoot someone. :)
Good job, I bet he'll end up with his tail in the wringer.
Post by: NWBREW on January 07, 2013, 10:00:38 AM
Your not just doing this for yourself but for everyone else as well. Thank you.
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 07, 2013, 10:01:43 AM
I have contacted Lynden PD and submitted an online request to the Seattle FBI office. If the Lynden PD route doesn't go anywhere I will keep pursuing different options including calling Seattle FBI office and contacting HR Department at his place of work and letting them know that someone with a Google+ account linked to their business is threatening to shoot people. It'll be interesting to see how this turns out.
I would love to see if/when a federal agent or police officer comes to visit him at work about his threat to shoot someone. :)
Be careful how much you dog this guy. Sun Tsu said to give your enemy an escape route because when someone is fighting on desperate ground and there is no hope, they're much more dangerous.
If this guy is a whack job, he may have other things to come at you with. I've dealt with this recently. I'm not suggesting you don't do anything, but I am suggesting you make a measured and appropriate response. I would encourage other participants in this thread not to get involved by contacting his employer or him personally.
Post by: Pathfinder101 on January 07, 2013, 10:09:21 AM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on January 07, 2013, 10:14:02 AM
Thomas Lee Dillon (July 9, 1950[1][2] – October 21, 2011) was a serial killer who shot and killed five men in southeastern Ohio, beginning April 1, 1989 and continuing until April 1992.[3]
Dillon was born in Canton, Ohio. He was captured in 1992 when a friend recognized a behavioral profile compiled by the FBI. Dillon was incarcerated at the Southern Ohio Correctional Facility for five consecutive sentences of thirty years to life for aggravated murder.[1] In 1998, his crimes were featured in an episode ("Human Prey") of the Discovery Channel's The FBI Files.
Dillon’s shooting victims were:[4]
Donald Welling, 35, of Strasburg, Ohio on April 1, 1989, while walking or jogging on Tuscarawas County Road 94.
Jamie Paxton, 21, of Bannock, Ohio while deer hunting Nov. 10, 1990, in Belmont County.
Kevin Loring, 30, of Duxbury, Mass., on Nov. 28, 1990, while deer hunting in Muskingum County.
Claude Hawkins, 48, of Mansfield, Ohio on March 14, 1992, while fishing at Wills Creek in Coshocton County.
Gary Bradley, 44, of Williamstown, W.Va, on April 5, 1992, while fishing near Caldwell in Noble County.
Post by: shanevg on January 07, 2013, 10:14:07 AM
I have contacted Lynden PD and submitted an online request to the Seattle FBI office. If the Lynden PD route doesn't go anywhere I will keep pursuing different options including calling Seattle FBI office and contacting HR Department at his place of work and letting them know that someone with a Google+ account linked to their business is threatening to shoot people. It'll be interesting to see how this turns out.
I would love to see if/when a federal agent or police officer comes to visit him at work about his threat to shoot someone. :)
Be careful how much you dog this guy. Sun Tsu said to give your enemy an escape route because when someone is fighting on desperate ground and there is no hope, they're much more dangerous.
If this guy is a whack job, he may have other things to come at you with. I've dealt with this recently. I'm not suggesting you don't do anything, but I am suggesting you make a measured and appropriate response. I would encourage other participants in this thread not to get involved by contacting his employer or him personally.
That's certainly something I've considered. At the same time I feel like (as others have said) it's my duty to make sure this guy is reported to the proper authorities. I agree and appreciate the advice that we don't need anyone from this website harassing him in any way. I just want this to play out the "proper way"...
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 07, 2013, 10:34:59 AM
I have contacted Lynden PD and submitted an online request to the Seattle FBI office. If the Lynden PD route doesn't go anywhere I will keep pursuing different options including calling Seattle FBI office and contacting HR Department at his place of work and letting them know that someone with a Google+ account linked to their business is threatening to shoot people. It'll be interesting to see how this turns out.
I would love to see if/when a federal agent or police officer comes to visit him at work about his threat to shoot someone. :)
Be careful how much you dog this guy. Sun Tsu said to give your enemy an escape route because when someone is fighting on desperate ground and there is no hope, they're much more dangerous.
If this guy is a whack job, he may have other things to come at you with. I've dealt with this recently. I'm not suggesting you don't do anything, but I am suggesting you make a measured and appropriate response. I would encourage other participants in this thread not to get involved by contacting his employer or him personally.
That's certainly something I've considered. At the same time I feel like (as others have said) it's my duty to make sure this guy is reported to the proper authorities. I agree and appreciate the advice that we don't need anyone from this website harassing him in any way. I just want this to play out the "proper way"...
I agree completely.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 07, 2013, 10:55:11 AM
Post by: sirmissalot on January 07, 2013, 11:02:11 AM
On second thought this might not look good considering our war on firearms right now... So I don't know. Definitely don't let him get away with it though
Post by: shanevg on January 07, 2013, 11:08:00 AM
I wish we could get this on local news. "Federal employee threatens hunter" would make a great headline. Try to "get Jesse" on this guy.
On second thought this might not look good considering our war on firearms right now... So I don't know. Definitely don't let him get away with it though
I've actually thought the same thing... hmm.. this might be newsworthy. At the same time as a Pro 2nd Amendment guy this sort of shoots us in the foot as far as gun rights goes. Not saying a guy like this deserves to have a gun, but any news on guns right now is construed as anti-gun.
Post by: Bob33 on January 07, 2013, 11:10:00 AM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 07, 2013, 11:19:31 AM
Post by: Kc_Kracker on January 07, 2013, 11:30:52 AM
Post by: DoubleJ on January 07, 2013, 11:32:59 AM
i have used get jesse 2x, and he always calls you back personally within an hour, i say call him (206) 448-5555 (phone)
I've tried get jesse twice as well in the past. Never got a call or an email at all.
Post by: DoubleJ on January 07, 2013, 11:33:32 AM
Post by: deaner on January 07, 2013, 11:35:10 AM
Post by: Special T on January 07, 2013, 11:37:18 AM
Post by: shanevg on January 07, 2013, 12:04:19 PM
From here I'm not really sure where else I can go. If I don't hear back from FBI at all, I may take the route of at least calling his HR Department, see if I can at least help him lose his job...
Any other advice from you guys?
Post by: Special T on January 07, 2013, 12:05:14 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on January 07, 2013, 12:06:21 PM
Post by: Bob33 on January 07, 2013, 12:11:59 PM
I'm not sure why you would make light of a death threat, or wonder if they should be turned in; report them to law enforcement and forum management.I am seriousGet threats on here all tha time :dunno:Have you had death threats?
Maybe I should turn them in for internet threats :tup:
This is a serious post. Please keep your comments on topic.
Post by: h20hunter on January 07, 2013, 12:13:35 PM
Post by: Special T on January 07, 2013, 12:16:59 PM
Post by: deaner on January 07, 2013, 12:18:18 PM
Post by: jackmaster on January 07, 2013, 12:19:43 PM
Post by: shanevg on January 07, 2013, 12:21:09 PM
The IC3 receives thousands of complaints each month and does not have the resources to respond to inquiries regarding the status of complaints. It is the IC3's intention to review all complaints and refer them to law enforcement and regulatory agencies having jurisdiction. Ultimately, investigation and prosecution are at the discretion of the receiving agencies.
Doesn't give me a lot of faith in anything coming out of that. When I mentioned to the FBI officer that he was a federal employee he immediately asked if I had contacted his employer. I didn't push him at all as to whether or not I should but he seemed to think that was a natural course of action. I think I'm leaning that direction at least.
Post by: deaner on January 07, 2013, 12:23:42 PM
Post by: h20hunter on January 07, 2013, 12:24:31 PM
Andy no...I would not flood anyone with the same.......sure you are kidding but somebody may think that is a good idea.
Post by: jackmaster on January 07, 2013, 12:25:27 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 07, 2013, 12:29:58 PM
Maybe WDFW if it there is an anti hunter harassment law? :dunno:I would look into this too. But mostly would hope that there is a record of you contacting various agencies for assistance.
Post by: Bob33 on January 07, 2013, 12:35:45 PM
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=77.15.210 (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=77.15.210)Maybe WDFW if it there is an anti hunter harassment law? :dunno:I would look into this too. But mostly would hope that there is a record of you contacting various agencies for assistance.
1) A person is guilty of obstructing the taking of fish[, shellfish,] or wildlife if the person:
(a) Harasses, drives, or disturbs fish, shellfish, or wildlife with the intent of disrupting lawful pursuit or taking thereof; or
(b) Harasses, intimidates, or interferes with an individual engaged in the lawful taking of fish, shellfish, or wildlife or lawful predator control with the intent of disrupting lawful pursuit or taking thereof.
(2) Obstructing the taking of fish, shellfish, or wildlife is a gross misdemeanor.
(3) It is an affirmative defense to a prosecution for obstructing the taking of fish, shellfish, or wildlife that the person charged was:
(a) Interfering with a person engaged in hunting outside the legally established hunting season; or
(b) Preventing or attempting to prevent unauthorized trespass on private property.
(4) The person raising a defense under subsection (3) of this section has the burden of proof by a preponderance of the evidence.
Post by: whiteeyes on January 07, 2013, 12:36:49 PM
Post by: Bob33 on January 07, 2013, 12:38:04 PM
http://outdoorchanneloutfitters.com/blog.aspx?id=6579 (http://outdoorchanneloutfitters.com/blog.aspx?id=6579)
There was no denying that PETA opposes hunting. Now the animal rights group also is on record urging people to violate laws-make that hunter harassment laws.
In an October 9, 2012 blog posting, PETA urges its minions to: "Help counter the cruelty of hunting in your area: Post "No Hunting" signs on your land and that of sympathetic neighbors and friends, join or form a local anti-hunting group, protest organized hunts, and spread deer repellent or human hair (from barber shops) near hunting areas. Also, before supporting any wildlife or conservation group, make sure that it opposes hunting."
Fortunately for hunters, these tactics constitute hunter harassment, a practice that is illegal in all fifty states and also on federal land. The U.S. Sportsmen's Alliance (USSA) championed the enactment of these laws during the 1980's and 1990's in response to a campaign entitled "Hints for Hunt Saboteurs" by the anti-hunting organization, Friends of Animals. The Sportsmen's Alliance also helped defend state hunter harassment laws in both Iowa and New Jersey courts when challenged by the anti-hunting lobby. The result has been protection for American sportsmen and women from the exact sort of thing being promoted by PETA.
"It may be hunter harassment in itself for PETA to be encouraging others to break the law," observed USSA president and CEO, Bud Pidgeon. "If indeed there are foolish people out there who follow the PETA directive to harass hunters, I would not be surprised to see the authors of this article charged as well as the perpetrators."
Hunters encountering protestors, deer repellents broadcast or other items placed in their hunting areas to keep deer away should immediately contact their local Conservation Officer (game warden) or local sheriff's department and report the violation. When possible, take photographs of protestors, their vehicles, and their activities.
Full details on PETA's plans are on their website at: http://www.peta.org/b/thepetafiles/archive/2012/10/09/looking-at-a-hunter-s-heart-of-darkness.aspx (http://www.peta.org/b/thepetafiles/archive/2012/10/09/looking-at-a-hunter-s-heart-of-darkness.aspx)
Post by: shanevg on January 07, 2013, 12:43:46 PM
Post by: Kc_Kracker on January 07, 2013, 12:46:42 PM
Post by: h20hunter on January 07, 2013, 12:47:27 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 07, 2013, 12:53:26 PM
Post by: h20hunter on January 07, 2013, 12:55:07 PM
http://www.flickr.com/people/paul_c_szigety/ (http://www.flickr.com/people/paul_c_szigety/)
I wonder how Flickr would feel about his posting?
Post by: whiteeyes on January 07, 2013, 12:57:00 PM
Post by: JohnVH on January 07, 2013, 12:57:08 PM
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8217%2F8305298248_b7991b8461.jpg&hash=f6d8c35b63fd819a0026233d0e87a343111281db)
Post by: deaner on January 07, 2013, 12:59:10 PM
Post by: h20hunter on January 07, 2013, 01:01:34 PM
http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulcszigety (http://www.linkedin.com/in/paulcszigety)
http://www.habitat.org/where-we-build/fiji (http://www.habitat.org/where-we-build/fiji)
Post by: ribka on January 07, 2013, 01:02:26 PM
Print out the threat before he removes it
Go down in person, not contact by phone, to your nearest PD. Bring a printed out copy of the threat, his profile and tell them that you think you have the guy's ID. Make sure you tell them you are in fear for your life and in light of the recent shootings by mentally deranged people, you demand a report be taken for your safety. If they refuse ask to see one of the SGT's at the PD. Be persistent
Get a copy of the report and send to his employer :
Office of the Chief Counsel
Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation
1200 K Street, N.W.
Washington, DC 20005-4026
Send copy of his threat, his profile and police report certified mail and notify them that they have an unstable violent employee who has a firearm and is threatening you and that he appears to want to take a "fully loaded" handgun from DC across the US crossing state lines to the state of Washington and shoot you. I wonder if his fully loaded firearm is registered per DC firearms laws?
And I would contact the Fed Protective Service responsible for security at Fed buildings where this mentally unstable nut job works. Let them know he has a fully loaded firearm and is threatening to use it.
Tell them you filed a police report, id'd the guy from his web profile and tell them you are in fear for your life. Tell them you can provide a copy of the police report. Ask for the name of the person taking the report and demand a follow up call when they interview this guy
http://www.dhs.gov/report-incidents (http://www.dhs.gov/report-incidents)
Number appears to be : 1 877 437 7411
Just a suggestion
Got a call back from the local police officer. He said it didn't constitute a felony threat and there really wasn't a lot he could do about it. I asked him about calling the FBI and he said I could but they probably wouldn't do much about it either. I called the FBI but the Duty Officer did not answer so I left a message. Like I said earlier, I also submitted an online FBI request but haven't heard anything from that either.
From here I'm not really sure where else I can go. If I don't hear back from FBI at all, I may take the route of at least calling his HR Department, see if I can at least help him lose his job...
Any other advice from you guys?
Post by: Kc_Kracker on January 07, 2013, 01:05:32 PM
Post by: JohnVH on January 07, 2013, 01:08:40 PM
Post by: Bob33 on January 07, 2013, 01:20:16 PM
(1) A person is guilty of harassment if:
(a) Without lawful authority, the person knowingly threatens:
(i) To cause bodily injury immediately or in the future to the person threatened or to any other person; or
...
(b) The person by words or conduct places the person threatened in reasonable fear that the threat will be carried out. "Words or conduct" includes, in addition to any other form of communication or conduct, the sending of an electronic communication.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 07, 2013, 01:25:05 PM
Post by: jrebel on January 07, 2013, 01:26:08 PM
This is absurd.... :yike:
After all this takes place you may also want to e-mail this guy (make a new e-mail account) and just see if it was really him. In this process you can mention that you have contacted all law enforcement agencies and make sure he thinks they will be investigating it. Be detailed and post the names of the agencies and who you talked to (adds credibility). Tell him that this threat is being taken very seriously and that he "may have committed an act of domestic terrorism." make sure you use the terminology "may have committed." This keeps from pointing fingers. If nothing else comes of it he will live in fear for a few years that he is being investigated for a felony.
After / or if he responds then make the decision to send it to his employers (same e-mail). Let the know who they have working for them. I guarantee this will lead to some type of internal investigation....which will make him crap his pants thinking he is going to loose his job. If all goes well he will be flipping burgers soon.
Though I don't believe you really have anything to worry about. I will say that this kind of stuff needs to stop. I would make an example of him for sure.
:twocents:
Post by: stryker on January 07, 2013, 01:34:55 PM
What kind of bird was that you spooked on the hillside?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 07, 2013, 01:44:16 PM
Post by: bow-n-head on January 07, 2013, 07:58:15 PM
Sorry for my :twocents: but you're getting it anyway.
I had a client come into my garage when I was gone and take an unfinished deer mount off the wall.
I got home, was told what he did and immediately called him. I told him I would be right up after work to get it back. We argued about how long it was taking to get done. A few minuets later I got a call from the local Sherifs dept. saying they had me on felony harassment. I don't know how they don't have this guy in jail.
And they wonder why gun sales are through the roof :chuckle:
Post by: deaner on January 07, 2013, 08:00:48 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 07, 2013, 08:06:53 PM
i had a death threat from some punk online and gave him my home address....... im still hereProbably not the smartest thing to do. :dunno:
Post by: NW-GSP on January 07, 2013, 08:07:12 PM
i had a death threat from some punk online and gave him my home address....... im still here
Glad to hear it worked out for you. I think it's best to take these things serious.
Post by: Gundy on January 07, 2013, 08:19:27 PM
nd wine about some dude main a " threat" via the Internet...Cuz that NEVER happens! Its the Internet for Christ sake....odds this guy EVER is within 2 miles of the "poor" man he "threatened"??? ZERO %.... Like the cops and FBI don't have bigger fish to fry....what a joke..what an embarrassment to this site
Post by: huntnphool on January 07, 2013, 08:21:53 PM
Wow....a lot of seemingly grown men with nothing better to do than bitchIs he willing to bet his life on it? I wouldn't be. :twocents:
nd wine about some dude main a " threat" via the Internet...Cuz that NEVER happens! Its the Internet for Christ sake....odds this guy EVER is within 2 miles of the "poor" man he "threatened"??? ZERO %.... Like the cops and FBI don't have bigger fish to fry....what a joke..what an embarrassment to this site
Post by: JohnVH on January 07, 2013, 08:22:41 PM
Post by: Bob33 on January 07, 2013, 08:32:24 PM
Wow....a lot of seemingly grown men with nothing better to do than bitch..or spend time looking up some "dude's" twitter info?
nd wine
"@ Paul_szigety is his twitter handle for anyone who would like to drop him a line"
Post by: Gundy on January 07, 2013, 09:02:55 PM
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on January 07, 2013, 09:20:13 PM
Wow....a lot of seemingly grown men with nothing better to do than bitch
nd wine about some dude main a " threat" via the Internet...Cuz that NEVER happens! Its the Internet for Christ sake....odds this guy EVER is within 2 miles of the "poor" man he "threatened"??? ZERO %.... Like the cops and FBI don't have bigger fish to fry....what a joke..what an embarrassment to this site
However, you are ignoring the fact that while this threat is made specifically to Shane... it would appear this guy is a threat to any hunter that may cross his path... of course he is probably just an internet tough guy.. but it is still something that should be addressed and not near the joke or embarrassment you say it is... It only takes a simple logical deduction to realize that this threat is geared towards people hunting animals in general. That being the case this guys should definitely receive a visit from law enforcement and lose his government job. :twocents:
Post by: huntnphool on January 07, 2013, 09:28:11 PM
:yeah:Wow....a lot of seemingly grown men with nothing better to do than bitch
nd wine about some dude main a " threat" via the Internet...Cuz that NEVER happens! Its the Internet for Christ sake....odds this guy EVER is within 2 miles of the "poor" man he "threatened"??? ZERO %.... Like the cops and FBI don't have bigger fish to fry....what a joke..what an embarrassment to this site
However, you are ignoring the fact that while this threat is made specifically to Shane... it would appear this guy is a threat to any hunter that may cross his path... of course he is probably just an internet tough guy.. but it is still something that should be addressed and not near the joke or embarrassment you say it is... It only takes a simple logical deduction to realize that this thread is geared towards people hunting animals in general. That being the case this guys should definitely receive a visit from law enforcement and lose his government job. :twocents:
Like I said.....there is zero chance this guy and the " threatened" are ever within a milenof each other....complete and utter rediculousnessNice edit Bob :tup:
Post by: Gundy on January 07, 2013, 09:30:34 PM
Post by: madmack76 on January 07, 2013, 09:32:01 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 07, 2013, 09:34:02 PM
this post went from good post, to junk quick imagine that on here :dunno:Typical one bad apple syndrome.
Post by: Gundy on January 07, 2013, 09:34:40 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 07, 2013, 09:36:51 PM
"Nice edit Bob".....LOL!!!! Must be quite a life "Bob" leads cruising web sites and adding Mr Yuck stickers to other dudes posts...Its his job on this site, I doubt he "cruises the web". Besides, with guys like you he's a welcome addition, not to mention a unfortunate necessity :twocents:
Post by: Bob33 on January 07, 2013, 09:37:23 PM
Thank you.
Post by: JohnVH on January 07, 2013, 09:39:46 PM
Gundy will not be posting any further comments.No, thank you!
Thank you.
Post by: huntnphool on January 07, 2013, 09:42:45 PM
:yeah:Gundy will not be posting any further comments.No, thank you!
Thank you.
Post by: madmack76 on January 07, 2013, 09:46:12 PM
Post by: Bob33 on January 07, 2013, 09:46:55 PM
Thank you.
Post by: argali on January 07, 2013, 10:05:46 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 07, 2013, 10:12:26 PM
Gundy has been banned not for having an opposing opinion. We may not agree with or like them, but we do accept and encourage them. Respectful disagreement is positive. When someone crosses the line and becomes demeaning or resorts to name calling, that is not tolerated.:dunno: where is Gundy coming from with his comments :rolleyes: :o Good job Bob ! :tup:
Thank you.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 07, 2013, 10:13:28 PM
Post by: netcoyote on January 08, 2013, 01:48:34 AM
1) Internet threats must be a PITA for LEOs. They can range from just plain stupid, to malicious, to deadly serious. The only way to really determine the seriousness takes a lot of investigation. That said, this still should not be taken lightly. There could be a variety of reasons why your requests for help seem to fall on deaf ears. I won't even try to speculate on those reasons. I believe it would be in your interest to continue to be persistent.
2) You've been getting lots of advice from this forum. I have heard no one suggest contacting an attorney. That would probably be a better source of legal opinion. I'd look for someone who is familiar with harassment violations and, better yet, someone familiar with interstate harassment and firearms violations.
3) This perp claims to have a gun but says he lives (or at least tracks to) D.C. Isn't even the possession of a gun in D.C. illegal? Yet another reason to contact an attorney.
This could be anything from a bored kid hacking away in his parent's basement to someone who is seriously disturbed and willing and able to act out on threats. We have plenty of recent experience in the news with the latter. Take this seriously and get some legal help to plan your next move. Good luck.
Post by: skywalker253 on January 16, 2013, 01:32:22 AM
Here is my example-I purchased a plasma screen at Best Buy, when they first hit the market ($7500 TV then). It blew up after 5 months and I tried to return it with the receipt etc. They tried to deny the return, because I did not buy a service plan. The worker and I got into it, and he threatened he was going to kill me. I reported it to management 5 times and got blown off, as if it was no big deal. I went on the Best Buy corporate website and got the name of the Best Buy CEO. I then went to PeopleSearch.com and paid $19.95 for his address and phone number. I found out he lived in Minnesota. I called him at his house and told him my recent experience at his Puyallup, Wa store. The next day he flew out the Head of Customer Service for the Americas. A guy by the name of Michael Linton. I was asked to show up at the store at 3pm. I was greeted with $1000 gift card, 3 seperate letters of apology from the various managers, who blew me off, and I was told to pick out any TV I wanted "free of charge". I picked out a 47" Pioneer Plasma ($11,000 bucks at the time). Plus they issued me my $7500 back for my original TV, which blew up. Not to mention 3 people lost their jobs, including Mr. Death Threat.
The point is; you would be suprised how much personal information is out there on the internet, and how easy it is to get in contact with the right people. Who would of thought I could get on the internet and be having a conversation with the CEO of Best Buy for $20 bucks? I sure didn't! I don't see why you cannot do the same in regards, to the government employee, whom sent you a death threat. I wish you luck tracking down his superiors...
Post by: brijfish on January 16, 2013, 02:39:11 AM
Post by: DaveBTS on January 16, 2013, 04:03:02 AM
I encourage everyone to delete their info from this site anytime you move, make a major purchase.
Post by: RadSav on January 16, 2013, 05:43:06 AM
Shane, you may feel as though you hit brick walls and no agency is taking this serious. However I would find comfort in the fact you acted not only in concern for yourself but out of concern for others. Again the simple fact his threat is no longer posted makes me believe your actions have been noticed. I'd bet that if this guy tries to purchase a large capacity weapon in the future his application may be looked at differently today than a few weeks ago. Good work :tup:
Post by: 762Armo on January 18, 2013, 10:34:28 AM
Spokeo.com will tell you EVERYTHING about this guy; address, phone #'s, loan info, property taxes, etc.
I encourage everyone to delete their info from this site anytime you move, make a major purchase.
Holy Crap, I just looked myself up online. My addresses are showing up, with just the house number blocked. *censored*! How do you delete your info that shows up?
Post by: jaymark6655 on January 18, 2013, 10:45:41 AM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on January 18, 2013, 10:51:18 AM
I would call his work and report it to one of his superiors. It is not as hard as you may think to get in touch with the right people.
Here is my example-I purchased a plasma screen at Best Buy, when they first hit the market ($7500 TV then). It blew up after 5 months and I tried to return it with the receipt etc. They tried to deny the return, because I did not buy a service plan. The worker and I got into it, and he threatened he was going to kill me. I reported it to management 5 times and got blown off, as if it was no big deal. I went on the Best Buy corporate website and got the name of the Best Buy CEO. I then went to PeopleSearch.com and paid $19.95 for his address and phone number. I found out he lived in Minnesota. I called him at his house and told him my recent experience at his Puyallup, Wa store. The next day he flew out the Head of Customer Service for the Americas. A guy by the name of Michael Linton. I was asked to show up at the store at 3pm. I was greeted with $1000 gift card, 3 seperate letters of apology from the various managers, who blew me off, and I was told to pick out any TV I wanted "free of charge". I picked out a 47" Pioneer Plasma ($11,000 bucks at the time). Plus they issued me my $7500 back for my original TV, which blew up. Not to mention 3 people lost their jobs, including Mr. Death Threat.
The point is; you would be suprised how much personal information is out there on the internet, and how easy it is to get in contact with the right people. Who would of thought I could get on the internet and be having a conversation with the CEO of Best Buy for $20 bucks? I sure didn't! I don't see why you cannot do the same in regards, to the government employee, whom sent you a death threat. I wish you luck tracking down his superiors...
This made my day.
Post by: h20hunter on January 18, 2013, 11:11:49 AM
Post by: Austrian Hunter on January 18, 2013, 05:59:08 PM
I would call his work and report it to one of his superiors. It is not as hard as you may think to get in touch with the right people.
Here is my example-I purchased a plasma screen at Best Buy, when they first hit the market ($7500 TV then). It blew up after 5 months and I tried to return it with the receipt etc. They tried to deny the return, because I did not buy a service plan. The worker and I got into it, and he threatened he was going to kill me. I reported it to management 5 times and got blown off, as if it was no big deal. I went on the Best Buy corporate website and got the name of the Best Buy CEO. I then went to PeopleSearch.com and paid $19.95 for his address and phone number. I found out he lived in Minnesota. I called him at his house and told him my recent experience at his Puyallup, Wa store. The next day he flew out the Head of Customer Service for the Americas. A guy by the name of Michael Linton. I was asked to show up at the store at 3pm. I was greeted with $1000 gift card, 3 seperate letters of apology from the various managers, who blew me off, and I was told to pick out any TV I wanted "free of charge". I picked out a 47" Pioneer Plasma ($11,000 bucks at the time). Plus they issued me my $7500 back for my original TV, which blew up. Not to mention 3 people lost their jobs, including Mr. Death Threat.
The point is; you would be suprised how much personal information is out there on the internet, and how easy it is to get in contact with the right people. Who would of thought I could get on the internet and be having a conversation with the CEO of Best Buy for $20 bucks? I sure didn't! I don't see why you cannot do the same in regards, to the government employee, whom sent you a death threat. I wish you luck tracking down his superiors...
:tup: :tup: :tup: :tup:
Awesome!!!! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Mark Brenckle on January 18, 2013, 07:37:25 PM
You have to put in a seperate request for each seperate ULR or something, but that doesn't remove the original info. The site just gathers it from other sites, you would have to track down each bit of it where originally posted and delete it at the source. To me it sounded like you can delete it, but if the source isn't removed, it will just get regathered later.And if you've purchased a home it's on the county website, so that won't get deleted...
Post by: ShaneTyTrey on January 18, 2013, 08:08:05 PM
I would call his work and report it to one of his superiors. It is not as hard as you may think to get in touch with the right people.
Here is my example-I purchased a plasma screen at Best Buy, when they first hit the market ($7500 TV then). It blew up after 5 months and I tried to return it with the receipt etc. They tried to deny the return, because I did not buy a service plan. The worker and I got into it, and he threatened he was going to kill me. I reported it to management 5 times and got blown off, as if it was no big deal. I went on the Best Buy corporate website and got the name of the Best Buy CEO. I then went to PeopleSearch.com and paid $19.95 for his address and phone number. I found out he lived in Minnesota. I called him at his house and told him my recent experience at his Puyallup, Wa store. The next day he flew out the Head of Customer Service for the Americas. A guy by the name of Michael Linton. I was asked to show up at the store at 3pm. I was greeted with $1000 gift card, 3 seperate letters of apology from the various managers, who blew me off, and I was told to pick out any TV I wanted "free of charge". I picked out a 47" Pioneer Plasma ($11,000 bucks at the time). Plus they issued me my $7500 back for my original TV, which blew up. Not to mention 3 people lost their jobs, including Mr. Death Threat.
The point is; you would be suprised how much personal information is out there on the internet, and how easy it is to get in contact with the right people. Who would of thought I could get on the internet and be having a conversation with the CEO of Best Buy for $20 bucks? I sure didn't! I don't see why you cannot do the same in regards, to the government employee, whom sent you a death threat. I wish you luck tracking down his superiors...
:tup: :tup: :tup: :tup:
Awesome!!!! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
:yeah:
Post by: netcoyote on January 19, 2013, 07:25:59 AM
Cant post a link but ftom my phone but ut looks like this guy has a new facebook page.Looks like he posted a new profile picture shortly after this thread started.
http://www.facebook.com/paul.szigety.3 (http://www.facebook.com/paul.szigety.3)
[smg id=11925]
Here is a quote on the page:
Quote
Paul Szigety
January 11
man I wish I could surf youtube and make more threatening messages to people for doing things I don't agree with.
The guy's either a loon or is getting set up by somebody as a hoax. Don't know what to believe these days.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 19, 2013, 07:33:28 AM
Post by: h20hunter on January 19, 2013, 08:06:55 AM
Post by: shanevg on January 19, 2013, 11:35:25 AM
Hey ....where is Shane ? Hope that nut case did not follow up on his threat .... :dunno: :yike:
I'm still here, no one's going to hurt me with a gun. He's definitely been in contact with law enforcement. I'm guessing that scared him enough for now. :)
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on January 19, 2013, 11:58:54 AM
Hey ....where is Shane ? Hope that nut case did not follow up on his threat .... :dunno: :yike:
I'm still here, no one's going to hurt me with a gun. He's definitely been in contact with law enforcement. I'm guessing that scared him enough for now. :)
So you finally got LE to have a chat with him?
Post by: Austrian Hunter on January 19, 2013, 02:28:13 PM
Hey ....where is Shane ? Hope that nut case did not follow up on his threat .... :dunno: :yike:
I'm still here, no one's going to hurt me with a gun. He's definitely been in contact with law enforcement. I'm guessing that scared him enough for now. :)
:chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on January 24, 2013, 05:24:36 AM
Post by: ELKBURGER on January 24, 2013, 06:22:10 AM
Post by: jaymark6655 on January 24, 2013, 06:42:28 AM
Post by: lokidog on January 24, 2013, 07:11:55 AM
Post by: Doc Sauce on January 24, 2013, 05:01:23 PM
Will take guacomole
Post by: lokidog on January 24, 2013, 05:30:27 PM
:jacked:
Post by: madmack76 on February 17, 2013, 02:35:19 AM
Post by: skywalker253 on February 17, 2013, 08:50:36 PM
like you skywalker :dunno:
I can't say I like you, as I don't know you. I am sure you are a nice guy, so I "like you madmack76". :tup:
Post by: ML_Hunter on February 24, 2013, 11:23:59 PM
Hey ....where is Shane ? Hope that nut case did not follow up on his threat .... :dunno: :yike:
I'm still here, no one's going to hurt me with a gun. He's definitely been in contact with law enforcement. I'm guessing that scared him enough for now. :)
Wow...Just read this entire thread, way to go for turning the guy in. Hopfully you stopped future voilence, not only against you, but to any hunter this guy may come across.
Have you been informed as to if any charges were brought up against him?