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Title: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: gasman on January 07, 2013, 07:40:55 PM
Looking in to possibly going to Idaho this year for elk but not sure of the an to hunt  :dunno:

Been looking at the regs a bit and just starting to do my home work on in.

Any recommendation on do's, don'ts, or where to or not to hunt would help a lot.



Thanks for any info  :hello:
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: buglebuster on January 07, 2013, 07:50:56 PM
Tagging as s future idaho resident  :tup:
Title: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on January 07, 2013, 07:53:31 PM
Well where you looking to hunt?  I can only help with the panhandle area. 
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: Ridgeratt on January 07, 2013, 08:02:26 PM
Spent a few years hunting in the Joe and the north fork of the Coeur D'Alenes.

might have a few secret's
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on January 07, 2013, 08:06:59 PM
What weapon choice? Are you plannin to hunt from Aug through Nov?
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: dannysdaddy on January 07, 2013, 08:09:50 PM
pm me more specifics and I'll reply
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: Ridgeratt on January 07, 2013, 08:11:01 PM
Looks like everybody is holding pretty close to the vest!!!!   :chuckle:
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: turkeyfeather on January 07, 2013, 08:13:33 PM
There's no elk left in Idaho. Wolves got them all. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: gasman on January 07, 2013, 08:42:57 PM
At this point  :dunno:

Just starting to do my research and was looking for some good starting points from those that have hunted it. Still not 100% sure if we are doing Idaho but i like to have my duck in a row when going to a new area or state to hunt. The plan is for Colorado but that is looking to fall through and if it does, ID is my next choice.

We are planning on archery season, I would like to hunt the rut or as much of it as I can  :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

Not looking for honey hole (yet) but areas or units to look at and to stay away from. Some advise on where the wolf have impacted the elk herd the most  :dunno:

I have heard good things about the pan handle but don't know for sure or areas to hunt up there.
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: pd on January 07, 2013, 08:58:55 PM
Just my 2¢ worth:

The family has had an elk camp in the Cd'A mountains for 60+ years (truly).  Up until say 5 years ago, a diligent hunter could expect an elk every other year on average (work required, but very possible).  Nowadays there are more moose in those mountains than elk, I kid you not.  That is problem #1.

The second issue is the crazy "A" tag, "B" tag system.  You guys complain about WDFW all the time, and the westside/eastside tags over here, but try to figure out how to hunt with your family or buddies with these different tags.

General season gets harder and harder in the Panhandle, and recent years have been really dry and warm (rifles).  If I were spending your money, I would look at regions where large elk herds still exist (along the Snake river deep canyon, for example).

My information is all general season (never put in for special tags), and rifle specific.  Take it with three grains of salt.
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: Bob33 on January 07, 2013, 09:10:56 PM
Goid info, pd. Thanks.
Title: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on January 07, 2013, 09:12:20 PM
Here's the deal with Idaho... Its gonna take lots of scouting and pto.  I'd suggest the panhandle tag, but it's a long season.  You get a lot of time to hunt and you gotta use it all. I cant give you a specific area because it has taken me lots of time and money to find them, but ill give you the advice i started with

We started two years ago and still have a lot of learning to do in the area.  I've been fortunate to tag out both years, but I live in Spokane and can hunt a lot.  Archery is the best time to locate the big bulls, but they are not gonna come running to you when you throw out a call, you really gotta know what is gonna piss them off and make them come in.  I've had the best luck in modern season   because the under brush starts to die, I can get close enough to the elk to take a shot , and I've found areas to hunt the elk hang out in.  Get ready for lots of hiking in thick timber and rain.  Idaho is a blast, just make sure you got the time and money to do it right.
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: Ridgeratt on January 07, 2013, 09:16:05 PM
Here is a excerpt from the Spokesman review also:

Antlerless elk hunting not allowed in Idaho Panhandle general elk seasons for first time in history; predation by wolves, cougars and bears cited as a major factor. Similarly, Washington, general-season elk hunters restricted to shooting only antlered bull elk throughout Ferry, Stevens and Pend Oreille counties.
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: oldleclercrd on January 07, 2013, 09:26:29 PM
Tagging
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: coop2424 on January 07, 2013, 09:41:27 PM
I have been hunting the panhandle for the last two years and have been in elk but still have not tagged out.  If you hunt hard and do some scouting you should be able to get in them now getting a shot is another story in some of the areas..
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: huntnnw on January 07, 2013, 11:15:34 PM
I have hunted the panhandle alot....the best advice is to pick an area u wanna hunt...go over in summer and camp and just get to know the area and check out other areas around there. Then go over and hunt it..u will learn so much just hunting it. There is elk all over in the mountains of the panhandle
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: huntnnw on January 07, 2013, 11:16:25 PM
also put in for a LE tag its only $14.75 to apply and no points in ID so u never know u might get lucky..the LE units are far supperior
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: Bigshooter on January 08, 2013, 08:21:37 AM
I am not a fan of the panhandle. It is to brushy for me. To much like hunting western wa. If I was going to hunt elk in ID this year I would be down in the southeast corner.
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: Machias on January 08, 2013, 08:38:02 AM
I have some honey holes you can hunt until I move back out there, then you need to erase them from your memory.  :):)  Actually some of them are so steep and so thick you will need to erase them from your nightmares.  :)
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: coop2424 on January 08, 2013, 08:56:27 AM
I have some honey holes you can hunt until I move back out there, then you need to erase them from your memory.  :):)  Actually some of them are so steep and so thick you will need to erase them from your nightmares.  :)

Send those my way.  It is funny how every time I drop into some of the steep nasty holes I tell myself I will never be back there.  Then a day or two later I find myself in that same dang hole crawling to get out.
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: gasman on January 08, 2013, 09:13:20 AM
I have some honey holes you can hunt until I move back out there, then you need to erase them from your memory.  :):)  Actually some of them are so steep and so thick you will need to erase them from your nightmares.  :)

Send those my way.  It is funny how every time I drop into some of the steep nasty holes I tell myself I will never be back there.  Then a day or two later I find myself in that same dang hole crawling to get out.


Hey, its my thread. I get first dibs on the GPS coordinates  :chuckle:  :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: Machias on January 08, 2013, 09:22:48 AM
I showed a guy from this site one of my spots.  I had hunted it hard for 3 years, seen a few elk, had bulls screaming their heads off at 25 yards and could only see feet and tips of antlers.  Never released an arrow, almost always into elk.  The first weekend he hunts up there, he's hiking up the trail , hears a bull bugle, cow calls, it runs in, 15 yards broadside, there is a hole in the brush right over the vitals, zips an arrow through and kills a nice raghorn 5x5.  Are you kidding me.  :):)  Better to be lucky than good, but this guy was lucky and good.  :)
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: gasman on January 08, 2013, 09:41:24 AM
One thing I will say, I'm a fat guy, so tend to stay with in 2 miles of my rig or camp.

Ask Norse, you can take down there but I will be slow and sweating my balls off on the way out , but I will get there and back, but I don't, just give my wife the GPS coords and tell her I'm finally happy.

She will underdtand  :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: coop2424 on January 08, 2013, 10:06:48 AM
I have some honey holes you can hunt until I move back out there, then you need to erase them from your memory.  :):)  Actually some of them are so steep and so thick you will need to erase them from your nightmares.  :)

Send those my way.  It is funny how every time I drop into some of the steep nasty holes I tell myself I will never be back there.  Then a day or two later I find myself in that same dang hole crawling to get out.


Hey, its my thread. I get first dibs on the GPS coordinates  :chuckle:  :chuckle: :chuckle:

Sounds like it is not an enjoyable area so maybe we can team up on it since I hunt by myself and when something hits the ground it will be a nightmare getting it out.  I really want to experience that nightmare though this year.  I seem to be able to get bulls on trailcam pretty easy just the hunting part has been difficult the last couple years..   :bash:
Title: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on January 08, 2013, 10:11:20 AM
That is normal man.  I had nice bulls all summer on my trail cam, come archery season they disappeared!! They came back later in the season and then October they were gone again.  Talking with old timers up there the big bulls separate from the herd and head up high to rest until the snow pushes them down lower.  Makes sense to me cause we saw the herds, and only spikes and rags were with the cows.  I'm gonna expand my search area this year and did out where these boys go to rest up!
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: trophyhunt on January 08, 2013, 10:14:51 AM
I have had good luck in the Headquarters area, lot's of room for hunters. And really think about the special permit draws, like someone already said if you have a hunting license they are cheap to put in for. Put in for unit 18 for archery, lots of elk there and it hasn't been completly inidated with wolves yet, at least it wasn't when I drew there a few years ago. Idaho kicks butt, more animals and less people, but colorado has a ton of elk and they seem to be getting bigger! I would really try Colorado first if you can.
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: kentrek on January 08, 2013, 10:16:36 AM
here is what ya got to look forward to.. :tup:
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: turkeyfeather on January 08, 2013, 10:21:51 AM
I dunno.  :dunno:  Looks like a little piece of paradise to me.   :tup:
Title: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on January 08, 2013, 10:39:30 AM
here is what ya got to look forward to.. :tup:

I would love to find an area that open!!! Is that further south?
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: kentrek on January 08, 2013, 10:42:56 AM
here is what ya got to look forward to.. :tup:

I would love to find an area that open!!! Is that further south?

ya its pretty southern
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: pd on January 08, 2013, 10:49:10 AM
here is what ya got to look forward to.. :tup:

Yup, that is pretty accurate.  This photo shows 30 yards (??) of visibility, which is on the good side.  The steepness and thickness gets much worse than this.  There is a LOT of open space like the second photo, up on the ridges, but you shouldn't expect to spend much time up there during the general season hunt; sorry, it isn't that simple.  Get back down in the thickets, if you want to fill your tag.
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: kentrek on January 08, 2013, 10:53:49 AM
  The steepness and thickness gets much worse than this..........but you shouldn't expect to spend much time up there during the general season hunt; sorry, it isn't that simple.  Get back down in the thickets, if you want to fill your tag.

aww your gona crush there dreams of how perfect idaho is  :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: gasman on January 08, 2013, 10:57:47 AM
What would be a good choice for modern riffle?

I have heard good tings about the SE corner of the state also, but not sure about the area there.

Wish my brother would have stayied in Pocatello. Really I do......
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: coop2424 on January 08, 2013, 11:01:04 AM
That is normal man.  I had nice bulls all summer on my trail cam, come archery season they disappeared!! They came back later in the season and then October they were gone again.  Talking with old timers up there the big bulls separate from the herd and head up high to rest until the snow pushes them down lower.  Makes sense to me cause we saw the herds, and only spikes and rags were with the cows.  I'm gonna expand my search area this year and did out where these boys go to rest up!

The thing is it was during archery season and I was doing rifle.  I had 4 bulls on cam during shooting hours and would of been about a 20 yard shot. They were there dang near everday tell the day before rifle opened.  Most likly I will be doing archery this year and then this won't happen.  I also had wolves on cam same area during daylight..
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: kentrek on January 08, 2013, 11:15:35 AM
What would be a good choice for modern riffle?

I have heard good tings about the SE corner of the state also, but not sure about the area there.

Wish my brother would have stayied in Pocatello. Really I do......

honestly i wouldnt have "just one" place..with the wolves your gona want at least 5 different spots..you wana stay ahead of the wolfs...which means having a Mobile camp an covering a huge area..if you try hunting an area where there was heavy wolf pressure the year before the hunting could be pretty slow...idaho is not easy..my cuzzin actualy likes the hunting better in wa lol


an if you can i would archery hunt it
Title: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: elkinrutdrivemenuts on January 08, 2013, 11:17:00 AM
That is normal man.  I had nice bulls all summer on my trail cam, come archery season they disappeared!! They came back later in the season and then October they were gone again.  Talking with old timers up there the big bulls separate from the herd and head up high to rest until the snow pushes them down lower.  Makes sense to me cause we saw the herds, and only spikes and rags were with the cows.  I'm gonna expand my search area this year and did out where these boys go to rest up!

The thing is it was during archery season and I was doing rifle.  I had 4 bulls on cam during shooting hours and would of been about a 20 yard shot. They were there dang near everday tell the day before rifle opened.  Most likly I will be doing archery this year and then this won't happen.  I also had wolves on cam same area during daylight..

Oh you just screwed yourself!  Don't you know the elk read our posts?! Now they will stay out of there since they know your coming!
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: Bob33 on January 08, 2013, 11:36:57 AM
I just don't see the issue. It looks huntable to me. :dunno:
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on January 08, 2013, 11:43:25 AM
 :bash: Now everybody will be there! :chuckle:
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: kentrek on January 08, 2013, 11:45:47 AM
Thats pretty cool lol i wish it was like that
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: GoPlayOutside on January 08, 2013, 11:49:21 AM
Nice work!
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: Bob33 on January 08, 2013, 11:49:33 AM
:bash: Now everybody will be there! :chuckle:
I'll even send them the coordinates of right where to go. ;)
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: Machias on January 08, 2013, 04:06:14 PM
That's awesome Bob!!
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: h20hunter on January 08, 2013, 04:09:58 PM
Can we get a little back story on that pic....that is crazy!
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: 6x6in6 on January 08, 2013, 04:13:33 PM
 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: ellensburgpo on January 08, 2013, 04:15:44 PM
Can we get a little back story on that pic....that is crazy!

 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: scottcrb on January 08, 2013, 04:50:56 PM
im looking in to nez pierce or idaho falls area myself hoping ot go early with a bow if possible
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: vandeman17 on January 08, 2013, 05:05:47 PM
Idaho now huh Pete? We know of a few spots that WERE good but haven't been back in a little while so we aren't sure how good they are anymore...
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: gasman on January 08, 2013, 06:13:25 PM
Idaho now huh Pete? We know of a few spots that WERE good but haven't been back in a little while so we aren't sure how good they are anymore...

CO may fall through so I am doing my homework  :tup:

OR is still not out of the question yet either  ;)

Hey, when we duck hunting  :hunter:
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: low97ram on January 09, 2013, 07:47:16 AM
ya...when we taking that boat out to smack some ducks..   :IBCOOL:

guess he's too busy for us Gasman!!!   :dunno:

Pete
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: vandeman17 on January 09, 2013, 04:43:45 PM
ya...when we taking that boat out to smack some ducks..   :IBCOOL:

guess he's too busy for us Gasman!!!   :dunno:

Pete

What about next weekend? I am picking up our new pup this weekend but next weekend could be open...
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: gasman on January 09, 2013, 06:14:29 PM
ya...when we taking that boat out to smack some ducks..   :IBCOOL:

guess he's too busy for us Gasman!!!   :dunno:

Pete

What about next weekend? I am picking up our new pup this weekend but next weekend could be open...

The wife said it was "OK"  :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Idaho info needed for elk.
Post by: huntnnw on January 09, 2013, 10:46:42 PM
best practice u can do is take a target into the big timber and walk around it and pick out holes to shoot at it... all the elk I have taken in NE WA and N ID I never have a full clear shot...they are always in the brush
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