Post by: Jekemi on January 09, 2013, 12:35:42 PM
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Post by: Blacktail Sniper on January 09, 2013, 12:46:16 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/09/politics/gun-control-battle/index.html?hpt=po_c1 (http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/09/politics/gun-control-battle/index.html?hpt=po_c1)
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 09, 2013, 01:06:11 PM
Post by: atc250r18 on January 09, 2013, 01:12:49 PM
Post by: Crunchy on January 09, 2013, 01:29:25 PM
Post by: SilkOnTheDrySide on January 09, 2013, 01:44:51 PM
Post by: Fishstiq on January 09, 2013, 01:45:10 PM
Need to get the glasses out. Is going to and exploring are two different things. No need to get excited just yet.
The time to get excited has long passed, sir.
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on January 09, 2013, 01:47:27 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on January 09, 2013, 01:49:48 PM
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on January 09, 2013, 01:50:17 PM
I thought executive order could not be used to modify or change the constitution.That is correct.
Post by: CementFinisher on January 09, 2013, 01:52:40 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 09, 2013, 02:01:49 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on January 09, 2013, 02:06:47 PM
Do you believe that matters to him?I thought executive order could not be used to modify or change the constitution.That is correct.
Post by: Bigshooter on January 09, 2013, 02:11:05 PM
Do you believe that matters to him?I thought executive order could not be used to modify or change the constitution.That is correct.
It will when it goes to the Supreme court.
Post by: Woodchuck on January 09, 2013, 02:19:59 PM
With the possibility that he could be naming as many as 3 to the Supreme Court in the near future I am not so sure. I am sure that alot of the things he is doing or proposing doing are frightening at best.Do you believe that matters to him?I thought executive order could not be used to modify or change the constitution.That is correct.
It will when it goes to the Supreme court.
Post by: gaddy on January 09, 2013, 02:40:52 PM
for instance if "this" happens at this time that opens "this" door which will result in me being able to do "this" kind of thing.
Post by: huntnphool on January 09, 2013, 02:51:35 PM
some people have not been paying attention. ;)Do you believe that matters to him?I thought executive order could not be used to modify or change the constitution.That is correct.
It will when it goes to the Supreme court.
Post by: huntnphool on January 09, 2013, 02:56:05 PM
The Supreme Court would never find Obamacare constitutional either huh..........and now with Obama potentially appointing 3 more liberals to the court these people are still saying "oh that can never happen".
Post by: Gringo31 on January 09, 2013, 02:58:57 PM
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Biden talked also about taking responsible action. "As the president said, if you're actions result in only saving one life, they're worth taking.
Better take away automobiles Joe!
Post by: huntnphool on January 09, 2013, 03:03:12 PM
How about eliminating tax dollars funding Planned Parenthood, how many lives will that save Joe?QuoteBiden talked also about taking responsible action. "As the president said, if you're actions result in only saving one life, they're worth taking.
Better take away automobiles Joe!
Post by: Woodchuck on January 09, 2013, 03:05:24 PM
Post by: Gringo31 on January 09, 2013, 03:12:05 PM
Someone might get hurt you know....
Post by: Wenatcheejay on January 09, 2013, 03:20:33 PM
Dear Mr. Hills,
Thank you for contacting me to share your views regarding Second Amendment rights and related legislation. I appreciate hearing your thoughts on this matter and welcome the opportunity to respond.
Over the course of the last year, the United States has witnessed tragic shooting events in several parts of the country, including the most recent tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut. In response, some have called for legislation to address the online sale of ammunition as well as the possession of ammunition feeding devices. As you may know, several related measures were introduced in the 112th Congress. Rest assured, should these measures come before the House of Representatives for a vote, I will be sure to keep your thoughts in mind and give them thorough consideration.
I share your concern about gun violence in America. This difficult issue requires a thoughtful approach and consideration of many related issues, including the services available to those suffering from mental illness. Please know that I am already working with my colleagues on how we can address these issues, including increasing school safety. In a previous Congress, I offered an amendment that would have authorized resources to enhance and improve school safety by modernizing and upgrading school technology and infrastructure to ensure schools are properly prepared for the unthinkable (H.R. 2187). We have an obligation as Americans to make sure that our nation's youth are protected from harm's way - these heart-breaking tragedies must be stopped.
As a law enforcement officer for 33 years, I realize in a very personal sense just how dangerous weapons are in the wrong hands. I am concerned about the violence that results from criminal use of firearms and the incidence of criminal possession of firearms. However, I believe the best way to deal with crime is not to limit the availability of firearms to law-abiding citizens, but to enforce our laws to ensure that criminals do not obtain weapons in the first place and are penalized for their misuse. These criminals must be held accountable to our laws.
I believe Congress has a responsibility to ensure that legislation holds up to constitutional scrutiny, and I am a strong defender of the Second Amendment, which permits citizens to keep and bear arms. As we move forward into the 113th Congress, my colleagues in Congress and I must come together in a bipartisan manner to help find effective solutions to prevent these horrible tragedies from ever occurring without violating the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens.
Once again, thank you for taking the time to get in touch with me. Your interest and input are valued, and I hope to hear from you in the future regarding other matters of importance. I encourage you to visit my website and sign-up for my monthly e-newsletter at http://reichert.house.gov (http://reichert.house.gov) to learn more about other issues impacting the 8th Congressional District and our nation. You can also follow my work online and receive frequent updates on legislation being considered in Congress by visiting me on Twitter (www.twitter.com/davereichert (http://www.twitter.com/davereichert)) and Facebook (www.facebook.com/repdavereichert (http://www.facebook.com/repdavereichert)).
Sincerely,
David G. Reichert
Member of Congress
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Dear Jayson:
Thank you for contacting me regarding your support for Second Amendment rights. I appreciate you making me aware of your views on this issue.
Let me begin by saying that my thoughts and prayers are with the victims and families affected by the tragic shooting at the Sandy Hook Elementary School. In the wake of tragic acts of gun violence such as this, there have been attempts in Congress to enact additional gun laws. However, I cannot in good conscience vote to impose unnecessary restrictions on law-abiding citizens who legally own guns or who want to obtain them through legal means. There are more than 20,000 federal, state and local firearms laws in place to prevent criminals from obtaining firearms, and our focus should be on diminishing gun-related crime through strict enforcement of existing gun laws - rather than on imposing further restrictions on law-abiding citizens.
I am committed to protecting the freedoms and rights that were guaranteed by the United States Constitution. We are guaranteed all of the rights set forth in the Constitution. None is any less precious than another. Please rest assured that I will continue to support measures to ensure the rigorous enforcement of our existing guns laws, and oppose misguided efforts to undermine our Constitutional rights.
Again, thank you for contacting me. Please do not hesitate to do so in the future on any matter of importance to you.
Sincerely,
Doc Hastings
Member of Congress
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Bravo Jayson!
The 12th district is fortunately a pro-American district at this point. While a handful of folks are demanding gun control, the majority shares your opinion of reactionary politics.
While I believe the bulk of this will be debated on the federal level, I will do all I can to make sure we stop any such "protections" at the State House. You may want to contact your federal representatives to let them know how you feel. Their contact information is below.
These types of issues are handled by the federal government, not the state. I would urge you to contact those who represent you at the federal level, Congressman Richard "Doc" Hastings or Dave Reichert and your U.S. Senators Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell since they oversee federal operations and agencies.
Here are some links on how to contact them:
https://reichert.house.gov/contact-me (https://reichert.house.gov/contact-me)
http://hastings.house.gov/Contact.aspx (http://hastings.house.gov/Contact.aspx)
http://cantwell.senate.gov/contact/ (http://cantwell.senate.gov/contact/)
http://murray.senate.gov/email/index.cfm (http://murray.senate.gov/email/index.cfm)
I hope this is helpful. Please let me know if you have any questions or if there is something at the state level we can help you with.
CARY CONDOTTA
12th District Representative
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We all know about how horrible our Senators are but we are not alone.
Post by: Jekemi on January 09, 2013, 03:35:09 PM
Does he actually think we will stand by and remain quiet? Does he not understand that some of us are willing to resist and defy any executive order of this magnitude. We must stand beside the weapons manufacturers that will be desperately hurt by such an order, the thousands of people that will be thrown out of work, the resellers, the retailers, the scope of this is unprecedented. The time to create a firestorm of resistance and opposition is BEFORE the order is issued. We need to let the administration know - don't do this or else! We are the citizen soldiers the amendment refers to. I am reminded of the great quote by Barry Goldwater: "I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.”
Post by: 6x6in6 on January 09, 2013, 03:35:45 PM
He has the odds on his side since only 2 Executive Orders have ever been overturned by SCOTUS in US history.It will when it goes to the Supreme court.Do you believe that matters to him?I thought executive order could not be used to modify or change the constitution.That is correct.
And Congress wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole, it would be political suicide. Not to mention it takes a super majority vote to overturn.
Post by: Wenatcheejay on January 09, 2013, 04:17:49 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on January 09, 2013, 04:20:44 PM
some people have not been paying attention. ;)Do you believe that matters to him?I thought executive order could not be used to modify or change the constitution.That is correct.
It will when it goes to the Supreme court.
Please enlighten all of us with your wisdom.
Post by: Special T on January 09, 2013, 04:21:22 PM
Post by: Bigshooter on January 09, 2013, 04:22:58 PM
He has the odds on his side since only 2 Executive Orders have ever been overturned by SCOTUS in US history.It will when it goes to the Supreme court.Do you believe that matters to him?I thought executive order could not be used to modify or change the constitution.That is correct.
And Congress wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole, it would be political suicide. Not to mention it takes a super majority vote to overturn.
Well then we are screwed. And there is nothing we can do.
Post by: huntnphool on January 09, 2013, 04:27:54 PM
I've been paying attention BS, perhaps you should do a little as well. ;)some people have not been paying attention. ;)Do you believe that matters to him?I thought executive order could not be used to modify or change the constitution.That is correct.
It will when it goes to the Supreme court.
Please enlighten all of us with your wisdom.
Post by: Bigshooter on January 09, 2013, 05:03:18 PM
I've been paying attention BS, perhaps you should do a little as well. ;)some people have not been paying attention. ;)Do you believe that matters to him?I thought executive order could not be used to modify or change the constitution.That is correct.
It will when it goes to the Supreme court.
Please enlighten all of us with your wisdom.
I have too. And the only way to fight an executive order is through the supreme court. Unless you have a super majority in congress.
So please tell me what I am missing.
Post by: huntnphool on January 09, 2013, 05:14:55 PM
Congress has a much bigger fish to fry right now, they will not take time to fight Obama on any gun issue right now until this budget/fiscal cliff issue is dealt with, which is not going to get done anytime soon.I've been paying attention BS, perhaps you should do a little as well. ;)some people have not been paying attention. ;)Do you believe that matters to him?I thought executive order could not be used to modify or change the constitution.That is correct.
It will when it goes to the Supreme court.
Please enlighten all of us with your wisdom.
I have too. And the only way to fight an executive order is through the supreme court. Unless you have a super majority in congress.
So please tell me what I am missing.
Post by: Bigshooter on January 09, 2013, 05:17:00 PM
Congress has a much bigger fish to fry right now, they will not take time to fight Obama on any gun issue right now until this budget/fiscal cliff issue is dealt with, which is not going to get done anytime soon.I've been paying attention BS, perhaps you should do a little as well. ;)some people have not been paying attention. ;)Do you believe that matters to him?I thought executive order could not be used to modify or change the constitution.That is correct.
It will when it goes to the Supreme court.
Please enlighten all of us with your wisdom.
I have too. And the only way to fight an executive order is through the supreme court. Unless you have a super majority in congress.
So please tell me what I am missing.
Are you kidding me? :DOH: You don't have to go through congress to get an executive order done.
Post by: huntnphool on January 09, 2013, 05:23:02 PM
He bypassed congress on his immigration reform.Congress has a much bigger fish to fry right now, they will not take time to fight Obama on any gun issue right now until this budget/fiscal cliff issue is dealt with, which is not going to get done anytime soon.I've been paying attention BS, perhaps you should do a little as well. ;)some people have not been paying attention. ;)Do you believe that matters to him?I thought executive order could not be used to modify or change the constitution.That is correct.
It will when it goes to the Supreme court.
Please enlighten all of us with your wisdom.
I have too. And the only way to fight an executive order is through the supreme court. Unless you have a super majority in congress.
So please tell me what I am missing.
Are you kidding me? :DOH: You don't have to go through congress to get an executive order done.
Post by: mkcj on January 09, 2013, 05:31:42 PM
Post by: actionshooter on January 09, 2013, 05:48:19 PM
No congress doesn't have to approve it.....Thats why its called an "executive order"Congress has a much bigger fish to fry right now, they will not take time to fight Obama on any gun issue right now until this budget/fiscal cliff issue is dealt with, which is not going to get done anytime soon.I've been paying attention BS, perhaps you should do a little as well. ;)some people have not been paying attention. ;)Do you believe that matters to him?I thought executive order could not be used to modify or change the constitution.That is correct.
It will when it goes to the Supreme court.
Please enlighten all of us with your wisdom.
I have too. And the only way to fight an executive order is through the supreme court. Unless you have a super majority in congress.
So please tell me what I am missing.
Are you kidding me? :DOH: You don't have to go through congress to get an executive order done.
Where the hell were you guys in '94????
Clinton pulled the executive order *censored* b/c he couldn't get congress to pass the crime bill which was the "assault weapons ban" from 1994-2004
HE CAN DO IT IF HE WANTS!
Post by: huntnphool on January 09, 2013, 06:14:45 PM
You guys? I'm not the one thats been saying he can't do it, I'm well aware that he can and already has.No congress doesn't have to approve it.....Thats why its called an "executive order"
Where the hell were you guys in '94????
Clinton pulled the executive order *censored* b/c he couldn't get congress to pass the crime bill which was the "assault weapons ban" from 1994-2004
HE CAN DO IT IF HE WANTS!
Post by: csaaphill on January 09, 2013, 06:16:56 PM
Post by: actionshooter on January 09, 2013, 06:39:00 PM
Post by: mkcj on January 09, 2013, 06:41:41 PM
Some of those pieces could happen by executive action, but congressional say-so would be needed for more far-reaching changes such as reinstating the ban on assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines. Congress let the ban expire in 2004 under heavy pressure from the NRA. Democrats blamed a backlash against some lawmakers who voted for its enactment 10 years earlier for steep election losses that year."
My first question would be why isn't gun trafficking a felony already? Along with the other thing mentioned.
Post by: Jingles on January 09, 2013, 06:45:15 PM
My first question would be why isn't gun trafficking a felony already? Along with the other thing mentioned.
Because then they would have to charge Holder and Obama with a felony and they can't have that
Post by: haugenna on January 09, 2013, 06:59:51 PM
He bypassed congress on his immigration reform.Congress has a much bigger fish to fry right now, they will not take time to fight Obama on any gun issue right now until this budget/fiscal cliff issue is dealt with, which is not going to get done anytime soon.I've been paying attention BS, perhaps you should do a little as well. ;)some people have not been paying attention. ;)Do you believe that matters to him?I thought executive order could not be used to modify or change the constitution.That is correct.
It will when it goes to the Supreme court.
Please enlighten all of us with your wisdom.
I have too. And the only way to fight an executive order is through the supreme court. Unless you have a super majority in congress.
So please tell me what I am missing.
Are you kidding me? :DOH: You don't have to go through congress to get an executive order done.
Cricket Chirps.
All of thosed that voted for this idiot got dooped and are having a hard time eating crow. This is NOT the way the USA should be run. He is pissing off a big demographic of people. This could be his demise. IMPEACH!
Post by: TONTO on January 09, 2013, 07:05:18 PM
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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: Arms trafficking, also known as gunrunning, is the illegal trafficking or smuggling of contraband weapons or ammunition. What constitutes legal trade in firearms varies widely, depending on local and national laws.
What is "gun trafficking" ? Who gets to define it? Of course once tagged with felony charges you no longer are able to posess a firearm then each posession carries another felony charge.......by creating more felons you effectively dissarm the public.....baby steps.
So by trading guns with my Oregon res brother across state lines without an FFL am I gun traffcking? Probably, so that would make me a felon and no longer leagaly able to posses a firearm. Hypotheticaly of course.
Can't remember which founding father said it, might have been Jefferson :dunno: "You cannot controll an honest man untill you enact enough laws to make everone a criminal"
Each new felony offence created creates one more felon who cannot vote or posess a firearm, violent or not.
Post by: ICEMAN on January 09, 2013, 07:08:06 PM
Dopey will shut down all things internet if folks talk of revolt.
Now how are you all going to muster to stand up to this?
Post by: huntrights on January 09, 2013, 07:12:49 PM
We were warned this would happen; now here it is.
It only takes a few minutes to make a huge difference. Take advantage of the NRA-ILA Contact-Your-Reps Tool:
http://www.nraila.org/get-involved-locally/grassroots/write-your-reps.aspx
Join the organizations that fight for our hunting and gun rights!
National Rifle Association (NRA)
https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp?CampaignID=nranews
U.S. Sportsmen’s Alliance (USSA)
https://www.ussafoundation.org/sslpage.aspx?pid=283
Safari Club International (SCI)
http://member.scifirstforhunters.org/join/
Second Amendment Foundation (SAF)
http://www.saf.org/default.asp?p=safdonation
National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF)
http://www.nssf.org/join/
Post by: Wenatcheejay on January 09, 2013, 07:38:02 PM
Dopey will make things that you possess illegal, felony conviction if you are caught with them.
Dopey will shut down all things internet if folks talk of revolt.
Now how are you all going to muster to stand up to this?
Congress can defund him. In two years take back the Senate and Impeach and remove him.
No blood wasted on a failed Communist Coup. :twocents:
These folks who support the norm of things we see today are verbally aggressive, swift, smart, and intellectual. They have no love for Constitutional America. Post Constitutional America is an appropriate term for them.
This was talked of with fever with Bush yet he did nothing Unconstitutional. Obama poops on the Constitution like an Occupy Wall Street Protester defiles a Police Car and CNN cheers. When I say Impeach Obama if he signs an Executive Order to Ban or Seize Firearms I mean it.
Post by: actionshooter on January 09, 2013, 08:11:11 PM
All of you, your families, friends, and colleagues must communicate to your representatives. I can't begin to tell you how PO'd I get when people tell me they don't have the time, or don't write because they don't believe it makes any difference. IT MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE FOLKS! This is about protecting and keeping our rights and freedoms. Write your emails and letters, make those phone calls, and urge othere to do the same.
We were warned this would happen; now here it is.
It only takes a few minutes to make a huge difference. Take advantage of the NRA-ILA Contact-Your-Reps Tool:
http://www.nraila.org/get-involved-locally/grassroots/write-your-reps.aspx
Join the organizations that fight for our hunting and gun rights!
National Rifle Association (NRA)
https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp?CampaignID=nranews
U.S. Sportsmen’s Alliance (USSA)
https://www.ussafoundation.org/sslpage.aspx?pid=283
Safari Club International (SCI)
http://member.scifirstforhunters.org/join/
Second Amendment Foundation (SAF)
http://www.saf.org/default.asp?p=safdonation
National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF)
http://www.nssf.org/join/
AMEN...........I sold some mags and sent some $$ to the NRA tonight.
Post by: ipkus on January 09, 2013, 08:28:53 PM
A well educated, interested, and involved population would have never allowed politics and politicians to get where we are today. Sadly, we've already neutered ourselves of our power to do anything of substance because our ears only perk up when someone mentions guns.
Not a gripe at anyone in particular, just lamenting about the current state of affairs we are in.
Don't just blame the politicians though; WE THE PEOPLE, through our lack of interest, let this happen.
Post by: actionshooter on January 09, 2013, 08:35:03 PM
What's incredibly sad to me is how fired up all of you get when anything having to do with guns is mentioned, and yet the vast majority of you are completely uninformed about the other 99.9% of what goes on in Olympia, or D.C.I agree the general population is like that (how else would Obama get back in), but I think lumping the guys posting on this thread into that group is WAY off base. Look back at the political forum and you will start seeing the same names
A well educated, interested, and involved population would have never allowed politics and politicians to get where we are today. Sadly, we've already neutered ourselves of our power to do anything of substance because our ears only perk up when someone mentions guns.
Not a gripe at anyone in particular, just lamenting about the current state of affairs we are in.
Don't just blame the politicians though; WE THE PEOPLE, through our lack of interest, let this happen.
Post by: Crunchy on January 09, 2013, 08:36:38 PM
What's incredibly sad to me is how fired up all of you get when anything having to do with guns is mentioned, and yet the vast majority of you are completely uninformed about the other 99.9% of what goes on in Olympia, or D.C.
A well educated, interested, and involved population would have never allowed politics and politicians to get where we are today. Sadly, we've already neutered ourselves of our power to do anything of substance because our ears only perk up when someone mentions guns.
Not a gripe at anyone in particular, just lamenting about the current state of affairs we are in.
Don't just blame the politicians though; WE THE PEOPLE, through our lack of interest, let this happen.
Well said. I dont mind a little more gun control. Its just one of many issues this country faces.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 09, 2013, 08:38:00 PM
Post by: huntnphool on January 09, 2013, 09:56:10 PM
What's incredibly sad to me is how fired up all of you get when anything having to do with guns is mentioned, and yet the vast majority of you are completely uninformed about the other 99.9% of what goes on in Olympia, or D.C.For the most part you are preaching to the choir on this forum, there are only a small percentage that on here that are liberal in their thinking.
A well educated, interested, and involved population would have never allowed politics and politicians to get where we are today. Sadly, we've already neutered ourselves of our power to do anything of substance because our ears only perk up when someone mentions guns.
Not a gripe at anyone in particular, just lamenting about the current state of affairs we are in.
Don't just blame the politicians though; WE THE PEOPLE, through our lack of interest, let this happen.
Post by: csaaphill on January 09, 2013, 11:26:35 PM
Mark my words very short while from now we'll wake up to a blow horn telling us Mr _ come out and surrender all your weapons or we will open fire. i stay up late so if I even hear sheit like that Ill yell to arms loud and proud.
Yes this all could be politcal posturing but think this is looking bad. He may have said thing like just becuase it's hard doesn't mean we don't ned to try. To me that means far more than what he actually said.
Post by: Jekemi on January 10, 2013, 07:05:15 AM
In addition an entire generation of younger voters, that didn't witness the horrors of Communism and Marxism simply don't understand what's at stake. Since Roosevelt we have been building a large entitlement culture, a dependent class that can't or won't take care of themselves. They are slaves to Federal government entitlement spigot. They will do whatever the liberal leadership wants them to do in order to preserve their welfare and entitlement culture. Americans have always believed that there are some who, through no fault of their own, can't care for themselves. The rest of us are committed to pull the wagon with those unfortunate few sitting inside. However, we now have a situation where there are more people in the wagon than those pulling the wagon. This cannot last forever. This will result in the demise of America as we know it. It will also result in a Socialist revolution. However, the left can't win this revolution if the citizens own firearms. Therefore it is imperative that the firearms be confiscated first in order to bring about collectivism and collectivist tyranny.
Mark my words, this is what is happening. It is not going to happen "some day," it is happening now.
Post by: huntrights on January 10, 2013, 10:55:24 AM
What's incredibly sad to me is how fired up all of you get when anything having to do with guns is mentioned, and yet the vast majority of you are completely uninformed about the other 99.9% of what goes on in Olympia, or D.C.
A well educated, interested, and involved population would have never allowed politics and politicians to get where we are today. Sadly, we've already neutered ourselves of our power to do anything of substance because our ears only perk up when someone mentions guns.
Not a gripe at anyone in particular, just lamenting about the current state of affairs we are in.
Don't just blame the politicians though; WE THE PEOPLE, through our lack of interest, let this happen.
You have made an observation that one would expect when viewing the discussions in a hunting forum. The focus of the forum primarily deals with topics that affect hunting, Second Amendment rights, our ability to access public lands, etc. Rest assured that many of us also get involved in many other political forays that affect our rights, freedoms, and quality of life. So don’t let yourself make the incorrect assumption that the people participating in these discussions can only focus on attacks on our Second Amendment and hunting rights; most are very much aware of other issues in this state, country, and around the world.
Much of western Washington is in a continual unhealthy state of political imbalance. I’ll label the folks that have created this condition as the extreme liberal left; they may call themselves Democrats, but their philosophies are more in line with Socialism (Note: I am referring to the extreme liberal left, not those that are reasonable people). Socialism, by the way, is not freedom. Many of these people live in urban areas and have no clue of how the people in rural areas live and make their living. However, they don’t hesitate to dictate their views as if it were Gospel and impose their restrictive regulations on rural residents without any regard to private property rights, or negative economic impact on small communities or individual rural residents. Take a look at what is happening in Thurston County with their protection of the Pocket Gopher and the devastating effects that has had on private property rights; look at their new definition of wetlands (1,000 sq. feet) that comes with many restrictions and buffers. The imbalance of political power is a problem that needs to be addressed in this state and the rest of the nation. We, the People are very much aware of the issues and challenges that face us on many fronts. The difficult part is to get the people to believe in themselves and to get off their rear ends and take a stand for what is right.
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Post by: csaaphill on January 10, 2013, 06:11:06 PM
Everyone evokes the Constitution, but nobody seems to realize that the Constitution can't protect itself. only WE THE PEOPLE with our guns can protect it. Obama knows this. That's why he and "Plugs" are so intent on taking away our guns.:yeah: :yeah: :yeah: :yeah: :yeah: :yeah: :yeah: :yeah: :yeah: :yeah: :yeah:
x1,000,000,000 infinity.