Post by: shrek on January 14, 2013, 07:37:10 PM
Post by: wildweeds on January 14, 2013, 07:44:40 PM
Post by: high country on January 14, 2013, 07:45:19 PM
The Montana favorite for deer is fast 22's......you will be fine, just keep the shots under 700 yards....
Post by: splitshot on January 14, 2013, 07:45:40 PM
Post by: bobcat on January 14, 2013, 07:48:40 PM
Bullets anywhere from 80 to 100 grains. I like the 85 grain Barnes TSX.
Post by: bobcat on January 14, 2013, 07:51:34 PM
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you will be fine, just keep the shots under 700 yards....
:yike:
I'd say 300 yards would be a good maximum range for the 243.
MAYBE 400 yards if you're really good.
Post by: deerslyr on January 14, 2013, 07:55:11 PM
The Montana favorite for deer is fast 22's......you will be fine, just keep the shots under 700 yards....
I know alotta ranchers that kill elk with a 22-250 every year, not too mention deer and antelope....
Post by: JLS on January 14, 2013, 08:01:19 PM
I like the 85 grain Barnes TSX.
Good minds think alike!
Bobcat, 300 yards, you're joking right?
Post by: wildweeds on January 14, 2013, 08:09:20 PM
because he never killed one with it with under 5 shots.I used it to kill half a dozen and never shot more than once,it always flipped up hooves up.My uncle is easily exciteable and me maybe not so much,plus I took grandpas advice on shooting stuff.........."Son just imagine a balloon hanging from his withers,the objective is to put the bullet through the center of the balloon no matter the angle". It always worked so I never messed with the recipe.
I like the 85 grain Barnes TSX.
Good minds think alike!
Bobcat, 300 yards, you're joking right?
Post by: high country on January 14, 2013, 08:11:38 PM
Quoteyou will be fine, just keep the shots under 700 yards....
:yike:
I'd say 300 yards would be a good maximum range for the 243.
MAYBE 400 yards if you're really good.
That was my effort at sarcasm. There are plenty that think the 243 is too small for anything bigger than a coyote, course' those are the guys that see #600 bears too.
Post by: marlin on January 14, 2013, 08:18:02 PM
.243 has been killing deer ever since it was invented in 1955. Natives killed buffalo with longbows.. you think a .243 wont do it?
Post by: Bob33 on January 14, 2013, 08:19:49 PM
Post by: Jingles on January 14, 2013, 08:20:20 PM
Post by: uplandhunter870 on January 14, 2013, 08:22:04 PM
i shoot 95gr bullets, nosler ballistic tips. just as with all things shot placement is key and knowing your max range. max range being determined by both the abilities of the gun and your shooting abilities. personally with my 243 shooting 95gr pills and my shooting ability i feel comfortable out to 350yds
Post by: JoeE on January 14, 2013, 08:27:43 PM
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Post by: 700xcr on January 15, 2013, 05:23:13 AM
Post by: Taco280AI on January 15, 2013, 05:29:40 AM
Think it'll work? What grain bullet? I've heard mixed reviews. Whatda think?
Nope, not gonna happen, no way has the 243 killed deer. I saw on the Internet, once, a 243 being used on deer. Bullet bounced right off, only left a little bruise. It has to be real, saw it on the 'net :chuckle:
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 15, 2013, 06:11:20 AM
Post by: TheFewTheProud on January 15, 2013, 06:17:57 AM
Post by: coachcw on January 15, 2013, 06:41:05 AM
Post by: jackmaster on January 15, 2013, 06:54:59 AM
Post by: bobcat on January 15, 2013, 06:59:21 AM
243: 80 to 100 grain
Post by: Mongo Hunter on January 15, 2013, 07:00:33 AM
Post by: jackmaster on January 15, 2013, 07:04:09 AM
270: 130 to 150 grainthanks bobcat, i will be going with the 270 then, she can still shoot the smaller bullets for yotes and such :tup:
243: 80 to 100 grain
Post by: high country on January 15, 2013, 07:10:28 AM
now that my daughter just past hunter ed :IBCOOL: daddy gets to start shoppn :tup: :drool: and i was thinkn about getting my little girl a 243 or a 270 in bolt action, i will probably go with the 270 only because it is a bit bigger and she really wants to kill a bear before she hunts anything else. i am not sure but i think you can get alot heavier bullets for the 270 than you can for a 243....maybe one of the gun experts could clue me in on this as well
Kids tend to shoot the smallest rifles the best....less recoil and muzzle blast. The difference between a 270 and 243 is only .034" and the weight difference between a heavy 243 and a heavy 270 bullet is about the weight of a couple Cheerios. Bullet selection for the 243 lends itself to be much more versatile round as it can be down loaded with light bullets for chucks and dogs or shoot bigger bullets for elk and moose.....all with much less recoil.
A light 270 can lay a pretty decent pop on the shooter, and who wants to start their kid with a 9 pound rifle?
Post by: jackmaster on January 15, 2013, 07:17:27 AM
i bought my son a 30-06 for his first rifle when he was 10, it was a savage synthetic youth model, he still hunts with it, yes he is a boy, but i would think a 270 should have a little less kick, and if i get it in synthetic it should be pretty light dont ya think, i will have to have her with me and make sure it fits her right and is light enough for her.....i can tell you this though, i never though i would ever get to go rifle shopping with my daughter, i am jacked up. so excited, its diferant than when my son and i went....i will have her check out the 243 just incase though, ya never know it might be the ONE that she cant put down.... :tup:now that my daughter just past hunter ed :IBCOOL: daddy gets to start shoppn :tup: :drool: and i was thinkn about getting my little girl a 243 or a 270 in bolt action, i will probably go with the 270 only because it is a bit bigger and she really wants to kill a bear before she hunts anything else. i am not sure but i think you can get alot heavier bullets for the 270 than you can for a 243....maybe one of the gun experts could clue me in on this as well
Kids tend to shoot the smallest rifles the best....less recoil and muzzle blast. The difference between a 270 and 243 is only .034" and the weight difference between a heavy 243 and a heavy 270 bullet is about the weight of a couple Cheerios. Bullet selection for the 243 lends itself to be much more versatile round as it can be down loaded with light bullets for chucks and dogs or shoot bigger bullets for elk and moose.....all with much less recoil.
A light 270 can lay a pretty decent pop on the shooter, and who wants to start their kid with a 9 pound rifle?
Post by: hiway_99 on January 15, 2013, 07:47:58 AM
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Post by: high country on January 15, 2013, 07:49:16 AM
My friend bought his kid the trifecta with a 22, 243 and 20ga barrel set. The gun is very light and after shooting the 20ga barrel, his kid has a tough time making shots with the other barrels now. We're it me, I would get my kids into a model 7 or 700mtn in 243, this makes for a gun light enough to pack and plenty of thump for anything in wa. It is comical that we have to use 300 ultra mags in Wa but Montana boys can make due with 22-250's.
Either gun will do more than plenty on deer and elk.....just make sure it doesn't screw up your kids form in the process.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on January 15, 2013, 08:27:52 AM
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Post by: coachcw on January 15, 2013, 01:06:23 PM
Comparing shooting a deer to an intruder? Wow... i agree for an intruder bigger is better when your life depends on it. as for hitting an animal with a bad shot. A gut shot or hind quarter shot is a bad shot with a 243 or a 338 ultra mag. A bullet through the lungs is a dead deer with a 338 or a 243. It is an awesome deer gun. Especially for a beginner or recoil sensitive shooter. There must be a reason a 243 is legal to hunt big game with... :twocents:just compareing ke . It's obvious that there's some .243 fans around here and it has it's place . If you have one and want to use it fine . If your going to buy a gun I just think there's better choices . I went with the .260 for my son when he was 10 and the 140's have worked well , I also watched a elk hit with a .243 take it well after the lil bullet bounced around inside for awhile , sure that elk died but he went along ways . in most places around here someone else woulda tagged that elk just saying . I wouldn't concieder most kids as skilled marksman and leaving room for a lil error just seems to make sense to me .
Post by: hirshey on January 15, 2013, 01:28:49 PM
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Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 15, 2013, 02:29:22 PM
Best of both worlds would be the 7mm-08, same case (.308) as the .243 but a little bit larger bullet. :twocents:I have to agree 100% ...it took me awhile to buy a 7mm-O8 but once I did and seen how it performed I am hooked for sure :tup:
Post by: jackmaster on January 15, 2013, 03:30:26 PM
Jackmaster i have two youth 243 if you want your daughter is more than welcome to shoot them. One of them is my daughters rifle the other i just picked up this weekend. Ones a savage 243 with a synthetic stock and a nikon scope. The other one is a Winchester model 70 ranger youth with a bushnell 3200 scope.thats a great offer, are they up for sale by chance, of course my daughter probably wouldnt be to happy with me if i bailed on taking her gun shopping, you know how chicks are with their shopping, once they got it in their mind you better not let them down, where abouts are you located hiway99
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Post by: shrek on January 15, 2013, 03:34:58 PM
Post by: coachcw on January 15, 2013, 05:35:46 PM
great choice as well as the 25.06Best of both worlds would be the 7mm-08, same case (.308) as the .243 but a little bit larger bullet. :twocents:I have to agree 100% ...it took me awhile to buy a 7mm-O8 but once I did and seen how it performed I am hooked for sure :tup:
Post by: high country on January 15, 2013, 06:09:36 PM
Post by: C-Money on January 16, 2013, 06:18:56 AM
Best of both worlds would be the 7mm-08, same case (.308) as the .243 but a little bit larger bullet. :twocents:I have to agree 100% ...it took me awhile to buy a 7mm-O8 but once I did and seen how it performed I am hooked for sure :tup:
I REALLY like the 7mm-08. Nothing wrong with a 243 either.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on January 16, 2013, 06:49:40 AM
:chuckle: :chuckle: This could keep going on :dunno: :chuckle: I own all 3 of them ... :tup:great choice as well as the 25.06Best of both worlds would be the 7mm-08, same case (.308) as the .243 but a little bit larger bullet. :twocents:I have to agree 100% ...it took me awhile to buy a 7mm-O8 but once I did and seen how it performed I am hooked for sure :tup:
Post by: high country on January 16, 2013, 07:48:15 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on January 16, 2013, 07:50:38 AM
Just don't try it with a .257 Bob :bdid: :chuckle::chuckle: :chuckle: This could keep going on :dunno: :chuckle: I own all 3 of them ... :tup:great choice as well as the 25.06Best of both worlds would be the 7mm-08, same case (.308) as the .243 but a little bit larger bullet. :twocents:I have to agree 100% ...it took me awhile to buy a 7mm-O8 but once I did and seen how it performed I am hooked for sure :tup:
Post by: coachcw on January 16, 2013, 11:39:38 AM
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Post by: bear hunter on January 17, 2013, 10:55:02 AM
:yeah: I would keep it to a max of 300 yard. I uses 100gn SP in my loads Drops them dead. Good luckQuoteyou will be fine, just keep the shots under 700 yards....
:yike: :bdid:
I'd say 300 yards would be a good maximum range for the 243.
MAYBE 400 yards if you're really good.
Post by: jasnt on January 19, 2013, 04:54:23 PM
Post by: Sitka_Blacktail on January 19, 2013, 05:24:16 PM
Think it'll work? What grain bullet? I've heard mixed reviews. Whatda think?
Both my brothers shot their first elk with a 243. I shot my first two elk with the very similar .250/3000 or .250 Savage.
Post by: 762Armo on January 19, 2013, 05:54:00 PM
GreyBull Precision Long Range Hunting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8MEzra4B1g#ws)The 243 can knock em down if you put the bullet where it belongs. :tup:
That's a sweet video. Thanks for posting.
Also, those scopes look like they get the job done well too. I need to upgrade. :chuckle: