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Title: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: MDGrand on January 17, 2013, 10:20:45 AM
I know this thread has probably been tossed around before... but I am curious as to what others are getting.

Here is my set up:

Hoyt Vector Turbo, 29 1/2 " Draw, 70 lbs, Easton FMJ 340 - total arrow weight is 486.2 grains = 279 FPS & 84.2 KE

How about you?
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: bucklucky on January 17, 2013, 12:09:13 PM
Mathews Reezen, 28 in draw, 69lb draw weight on the scale, FMJ 400 with 85 grain Montech 416 grains , 289 -291 fps on the crono , its never exactly the same. I dont know upper 70's on the KE?? Calculated on the KE calculator Right around 78 on the KE.
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: coachcw on January 17, 2013, 12:37:44 PM
70 lbs 420grain at 305fps right in the low 80's for ke.
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: romaknows on January 22, 2013, 06:27:20 PM
06 elite e-500 28'' 65 lbs  fmj 340 463 grains I think I was at 273 fps .
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: atfulldraw on January 22, 2013, 06:33:45 PM
I shoot a Hoyt CRX 32 29.5 inch draw at 70lbs, Easton FMJ arrows at 500 grains. Shooting 265 fps. with 78 lbs of KE.
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: Eli346 on January 22, 2013, 07:14:28 PM
Bear Assault/29.5" draw @ 67lbs pull. Beman ICS Hunter 340 with Muzzy 3 blade weighing 100 gr. Chronographed at 279 fps.
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: Button Nubbs on January 22, 2013, 07:18:02 PM
Fast enough to lay the smackdown on big bulls at 60lbs
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: earlmarne on January 22, 2013, 07:20:12 PM
last year i was shooting 550 grains at 240 fps out of my moxie at 72 lbs n 31 inch draw.this year will be a touch lighter
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: DoubleJ on January 22, 2013, 07:24:15 PM
Bear Legend
26" draw
48lbs draw 
Beman ICS 500 w/ Savora 100gn broadheads weighing 340gn. total 

Never chrono'd it but the calculator says 233fps and 40lbs KE

A very wise man with a lot of insight and first hand knowledge of the archery business told me that all of the arrow speed and KE is a load of bull to sell equipment.  I trust and believe this man with all things archery.  Just wanted to post my stats.  Figured they'd be the smallest numbers out of all the manly men on here :chuckle:
Title: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: jackelope on January 22, 2013, 07:32:16 PM
'09 Hoyt Alphamax 64# @ 30" shooting Easton ST Axis 426 grains I'm at 282fps through the chronograph.
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: deerslyr on January 22, 2013, 07:36:58 PM
09 mission maniac 70 lb that happens to max out at 66 lb  :bash: 28 in draw 430 grain arrow weight 250 fps
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: Bob33 on January 22, 2013, 07:38:31 PM
Never chrono'd it but the calculator says 233fps and 40lbs KE
I'm ciurious to know how any calculator could estimate the speed of an arrow from a bow without it actually being shot. :dunno:
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: DoubleJ on January 22, 2013, 07:40:55 PM
Never chrono'd it but the calculator says 233fps and 40lbs KE
I'm ciurious to know how any calculator could estimate the speed of an arrow from a bow without it actually being shot. :dunno:

Don't know but here's the calculator

http://www.backcountrybowhunting.com/articles/calc/ (http://www.backcountrybowhunting.com/articles/calc/)
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: Bob33 on January 22, 2013, 07:42:53 PM
Never chrono'd it but the calculator says 233fps and 40lbs KE
I'm ciurious to know how any calculator could estimate the speed of an arrow from a bow without it actually being shot. :dunno:

Don't know but here's the calculator

http://www.backcountrybowhunting.com/articles/calc/ (http://www.backcountrybowhunting.com/articles/calc/)
Got it. Of course you know that two bows with identical specs (draw weight, arrow weight, etc.) can generate different arrow speeds but that should be a pretty good starting point.
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: bucklucky on January 22, 2013, 07:47:58 PM
Wow, Im extremely surprised, I entered all my hard data into that calculator and it came out spot on within 1 fps .
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: flinter on January 22, 2013, 07:54:35 PM
68" Bill Stewart takedown longbow, 59 lbs. @ 31" draw, full length Easton Legacy 2219 tippped with 200 gr. Woodsman Elite - 700 grn total. Probably around 160 fps
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: Mudman on January 22, 2013, 07:56:57 PM
WoW that calc is very good.  Mathews Z-7 Extreme.  Last year was 340ics 100g at 420grains.  Bow at 69lbs and 28"draw resulted in average of 282fps.  Which is darn near perfect in my book.  New setup 350maxima 125g shuttles shoots better but no chrono yet.
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: bowjunkie on January 23, 2013, 09:39:55 AM
sweet calculator
Title: Re: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: owmygulay on January 23, 2013, 12:13:40 PM
sweet calculator

Does anybody know how close it is?
Title: Re: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: Mudman on January 23, 2013, 12:50:05 PM
sweet calculator

Does anybody know how close it is?
Very close, probably more reliable then some old chrono?  Got mine within a few fps.
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: bowjunkie on January 23, 2013, 01:32:56 PM
pretty close on my 82nd airborne have not chrono the other bow yet
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: bear hunter on January 23, 2013, 02:18:12 PM
75 lb bow using 600 grains arrows at 240fps with 78lbs energy
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: Mudman on January 23, 2013, 02:34:44 PM
75 lb bow using 600 grains arrows at 240fps with 78lbs energy
Holy cow are you spear hunting! :chuckle:
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: pianoman9701 on January 23, 2013, 02:37:50 PM
75 lb bow using 600 grains arrows at 240fps with 78lbs energy

Is this yours?
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: KimberRich on January 23, 2013, 02:51:13 PM
Wow.. mines a lot higher than I thought it would be with my new Mathews.

27" @ 68 lbs. = 287 fps and 67 ft-lbs

It used to be 217 fps and 38 ft-lbs.  I'm stoked.
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: hoyt300 on January 23, 2013, 07:47:23 PM
Hoyt spyder 30 29" @70# 423gr 292fps KE80/  Alpha burner 281/2" @69# 423gr 300fps KE mid 80s                                                               
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: MDGrand on February 28, 2013, 09:45:49 AM
With a little more tuning I was able to get a little more speed and KE:

Hoyt Vector Turbo, 29 1/2" draw, 70 lbs, 468 grain Easton FMJ, 291FPS = 91.41 LBS of KE.

I can't wait to see what this does to a Moose this Sept!
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: demontang on February 28, 2013, 11:53:17 AM
My insanity according to the calculater should be launching my 420gr bemans at 320fps and have around 99lbs of energy  :yike:im going to being shooting through a chrono soon to confirm :tup:
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: Mudman on February 28, 2013, 02:59:07 PM
 :yike: You must have ape arms!  :chuckle:31"draw??
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: RadSav on February 28, 2013, 05:47:55 PM
Out of Washington set up on primary bow is 302.  In Washington set up on primary bow 278.  Couldn't care less what my KE is.
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: demontang on February 28, 2013, 10:44:04 PM
I shot 30" draw. On the draw board my bow is about 30.5 " . The biggest thing with any bow is placement of the shot not the energy :tup:
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: MDGrand on March 01, 2013, 08:18:05 AM
Thanks guys!

Well, I care about my KE because Im going on a Moose Hunt this Sept. Super tough thick hide and bone. I want to hit that sucker as hard as possible to ensure my shot goes into the vitals.

And OF COURSE "shot placement" above all is key. That being said, if I can tweak the bow to its maximum energy without compromising comfort and accuracy; that's the goal  :tup:
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: JLS on March 01, 2013, 08:22:17 AM
Dwight Schuh hunts moose with a 50 pound compound.  Sharp broadheads and a well tuned bow 8)
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: DoubleJ on March 01, 2013, 08:30:16 AM
Dwight Schuh hunts moose with a 50 pound compound.  Sharp broadheads and a well tuned bow 8)

:yeah:

That's what radsav was saying.  KE is not really relevant and is only used to sell equipment
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: JLS on March 01, 2013, 08:31:46 AM
Sorry if I was redundant, I didn't take the time to read the whole thread.
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: MDGrand on March 01, 2013, 08:44:28 AM
Dwight Schuh hunts moose with a 50 pound compound.  Sharp broadheads and a well tuned bow 8)

:yeah:

That's what radsav was saying.  KE is not really relevant and is only used to sell equipment

Good for Dwight. To each his own. It may not be "needed" but Ill take the extra energy as long as it does not compromise accuracy or comfort. I mean hell.. all else being equal.. getting that extra energy to ensure the arrow travels hard and through an animal, Ill take it.  8)
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: et1702 on March 01, 2013, 08:50:53 AM

Momentum and FOC are more important than KE.  So, I shoot 300 spine shafts, a heavy BH (150gr) and brass insert to help w/FOC.  My FOC is approx 18%  My arrow weight is 500gr and speed out of two of my bows is 286 (Hoyt Trykon XL) and 308 (Mathews Monster), both set at approx 70lbs.  KE is 90 and 105ft-lbs, with momentum of 0.6 to 0.68, respectively.  My draw length is 31.5.

Another very good reason to shoot as heavy an arrow as you can and still get acceptable flight (i.e., not a rainbow arc) is that as arrow weight is increased, the bow is able to transfer a higher percentage of its stored energy (potential energy) into the arrow (i.e. much more efficient). Less of the bow’s energy is converted into wasted energy (like vibration of limbs, riser and string).  Your bow will be quieter and smoother to shoot!

Also, the more FOC you have, the faster an arrow will stabilize after it leaves the bow, plus it will penetrate the target better as the having the weight forward on the shaft will cause less lost energy on impact and will actually help guide or pull the arrow thru the animal.

ET
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: bowjunkie on March 07, 2013, 09:20:06 AM
hoyt spider 34 311 fps 99 lbs kenetic 31 inch draw 450 grain arrow
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: h20hunter on March 07, 2013, 09:23:15 AM
What kind of arrow there junkie...
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: MDGrand on March 07, 2013, 09:29:22 AM
hoyt spider 34 311 fps 99 lbs kenetic 31 inch draw 450 grain arrow

How many pounds you pulling?
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: bowjunkie on March 07, 2013, 11:02:50 AM
73LBS BEMAN ICS HUNTER 300
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: MDGrand on March 07, 2013, 11:14:27 AM
Well, that will do it. Nice!
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: bowsandhose on March 07, 2013, 11:30:25 AM
hoyt spider 34 311 fps 99 lbs kenetic 31 inch draw 450 grain arrow
you got some long ars arms  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: norsepeak on March 09, 2013, 09:30:03 PM
2012 Mathews Heli'm, 30" draw, 70lbs, Axis 340, 125 grain Shuttel T, at 290, around 80lbs ke.  I love high KE, especially when my arrow blows right through my buck at 26 yards and sticks in the ground 8" makeing two nice holes on each side....= dead buck in 40 yards!
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: Annette on March 09, 2013, 10:02:03 PM
Speed isn't inportant to me. I shoot the Mathews Rivel Pro and have the Mathews Reison ( which the grandson has taken over shooting) The Rivel Pro is very comfortable for me to shoot and acurate. It shoots 230 at 50 lbs, at 27 inch draw.
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: Sigmanu262 on March 28, 2013, 11:20:09 PM
Hoyt spyder turbo. 29" draw @ 70#.  Ics Beaman 300's with 100 grain tips. Chronos 298fps time and time again
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: Dirty Mike on April 01, 2013, 11:14:18 PM
Mathews switchback. 29.5 428grn easton excels. 284fps w/77ft lbs of Ke
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 02, 2013, 10:50:50 AM
I shoot a 435 grain arrow at 285. Roughly 78.5 fpe
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: h20hunter on April 02, 2013, 10:55:49 AM
Tagging.....got to crony my new bow...
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: DoubleJ on April 02, 2013, 11:08:55 AM
Tagging.....got to crony my new bow...

Someone should bring one to the meet in June
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: h20hunter on April 02, 2013, 11:17:30 AM
Folks shooting rounds thru my crony makes me nervous.
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: bloodhound on April 08, 2013, 10:01:20 PM
hoyt crx 32 74-75 pounds, 29inch draw 294 legal wa
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: Special T on April 08, 2013, 11:15:18 PM
Some of you will notice that long draw length has a TON of advantages in the speed department. My cousin shot a pse x force 30 in draw and 83lbs, and yes he is built like a gorilla!
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: Cylvertip on April 08, 2013, 11:44:26 PM
Previous bow - 1999' Hoyt Enticer, 31" draw, 475 grain arrow total weight, 70lb draw weight  -   245 fps

Current bow - 2012 Hoyt Vector Turbo, maxed out draw length(30" or 31"  - cant remember),  same 475 grain arrow, 76lb draw weight  -  315-318 fps
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: SGTDuffman on April 19, 2013, 07:17:56 PM
Last year it was 620 grains out of 51# going 205 fps. This year it will be the same, but 60#. Haven't chrono'ed it yet this year. Think that puts last years KE around 58. I don't really care about KE though.
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: owmygulay on May 27, 2013, 07:02:46 PM
475 grain Easton Axis at 289fps. 70# Element.
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: Special T on May 29, 2013, 10:01:52 AM
The Guy that won the PSE Omen at the Silver Arrow Shoot is shooting it with 111 KE 30 in draw 80lbs, and i for get what kind of arrow but its doing like 330fps.
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: Jellymon on May 29, 2013, 08:07:42 PM
The Guy that won the PSE Omen at the Silver Arrow Shoot is shooting it with 111 KE 30 in draw 80lbs, and i for get what kind of arrow but its doing like 330fps.

 :yike: I cant imagine the draw cycle of that bow at 80. Ouch!
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: Special T on May 29, 2013, 08:45:46 PM
Had to look up the stats...  80 lbs 30 inches 340 fps 430 arrow grains KE 111lbs
Some of you may not know it but the Omen has the WHOLE draw weight until you hit the wall (all the way back on the draw) so you draw 80lbs the whole 29.5 in... That is unlike nearly every other bow.
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: dupedc on May 29, 2013, 09:31:59 PM
Mathews mq32 60lbs shooting 420 grain Beaman ICS Hunter topped with 100 grain Slick Trick...
241 fps and KE = 54
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: RadSav on May 29, 2013, 09:34:42 PM
Had to look up the stats...  80 lbs 30 inches 340 fps 430 arrow grains KE 111lbs
Some of you may not know it but the Omen has the WHOLE draw weight until you hit the wall (all the way back on the draw) so you draw 80lbs the whole 29.5 in... That is unlike nearly every other bow.

22.5" of near peak power stroke!  Makes you wonder why you would want it in 80#.  Unless you just wanted to make sure no one else wanted to shoot it. ;)  Pretty dang cool!
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: mossback91 on May 29, 2013, 09:36:25 PM
Had to look up the stats...  80 lbs 30 inches 340 fps 430 arrow grains KE 111lbs
Some of you may not know it but the Omen has the WHOLE draw weight until you hit the wall (all the way back on the draw) so you draw 80lbs the whole 29.5 in... That is unlike nearly every other bow.

BEAST MODE!
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: Special T on May 30, 2013, 07:11:37 AM
It was donated by a shop that special ordered it for some one and decided they didn't want it.  :bash: Guess they wern't man enough after all!  :chuckle: I'm Happy Mark won it in the raffle since he was likely the only person who would shoot it as is. I talked to him the other day about the bow. He says he has to limit his shooting to 60 arrows. Then he goes down to his "light" bow at 73lbs!  :yike:
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: deerslyr on June 09, 2013, 01:55:30 PM
Had to look up the stats...  80 lbs 30 inches 340 fps 430 arrow grains KE 111lbs
Some of you may not know it but the Omen has the WHOLE draw weight until you hit the wall (all the way back on the draw) so you draw 80lbs the whole 29.5 in... That is unlike nearly every other bow.

22.5" of near peak power stroke!  Makes you wonder why you would want it in 80#.  Unless you just wanted to make sure no one else wanted to shoot it. ;)  Pretty dang cool!

my buddy has an omen in 80lbs...Every thing he does is to the extreme, including that bow. I cant even pull it back. Having said that he was flinging a 450 grain arrow 330 fps (or there abouts) and against my advice, he chose to tip them with a schwacker expandable. 30 yard shot at a spike elk I called in, hit dead in the shoulder, 3 inches of penetration and that broadhead sheared right off. I was not happy to say the least.
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: Jason on June 09, 2013, 03:20:08 PM
Wow that archery calculator is pretty darn close 276fps  :tup:

08 Allegiance 72lbs 27.5 draw 458gr axis 278fps through the chrono at Archery World.
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: mountainman on June 11, 2013, 08:32:46 PM
Target Mathews Chill, 350 gr at 330 ps, hunting, Mathews Creed, 440 at 290, both 70# 29"
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: earlmarne on June 13, 2013, 06:37:37 PM
Building some faster arrows this week.
Should come out to around 425 grains.BE deep  impact .300 spine lt out of my pse vendetta.
If i dont have to turn it down at all to get em paper tuned i should be around 300 fps.
I will run em through the chrono next week n find out for sure
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: h20hunter on July 28, 2013, 01:41:20 PM
Time to bump this......


Shot my Hoyt Spyder 34 with the Crony today....

30 inch (or so) draw, shooting Easton Axis, 481 gr total arrow weight, 280 fps.....what is my KE?   83.76 maybe....

Also, my Darton, same draw, Maxima Hunter, 377 total arrow weight, 260 fps....what is my KE?    56.60 maybe....
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: ADAHY on August 06, 2013, 08:44:34 PM
Cpx , 27.5 draw ,65lbs, pro hunter gold tips, 395 grains = 305 fps, ke 81.61
Title: Re: Within WA limits... What is the real speed of your hunting bow and KE?
Post by: turkeyfeather on August 06, 2013, 08:50:42 PM
It's fast enough and packs enough punch to knock down whatever I have shot at.
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