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Title: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: Wea300mag on January 31, 2013, 06:28:06 PM: I don't think the link goes all the way to the post, look under Poorman Creek Trespassers. :dunno:

http://www.methownet.com/bulletinboard.html (http://www.methownet.com/bulletinboard.html)
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: bobcat on January 31, 2013, 06:44:48 PM: Interesting. I bet the WDFW would like to know about that. Maybe they've already been notified. Personally I am glad they killed the cougars. Still not right to trespass though, and it could end up being very expensive for them. Especially with that new hunting while trespassing law.
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: grampa3 on February 01, 2013, 02:03:19 PM: did they take down the post on the link can't find it
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: Limhangerslayer on February 01, 2013, 02:11:59 PM: :yeah: what page was it on
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: bearhunter99 on February 01, 2013, 02:47:36 PM: Quote from: grampa3 on February 01, 2013, 02:03:19 PM
did they take down the post on the link can't find it
:yeah:
I couldn't find it either.
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: Wea300mag on February 01, 2013, 05:13:59 PM: They deleted the thread. In summary, someone living up the Poorman Cr Rd was accusing his neighbor of trespassing on his property, installing trail cams and shooting 3 juvenile cougars. Then of course all the tree huggers in the Methow were forming a lynch mob using just the original post as evidence.
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: villageidiot on February 03, 2013, 12:07:47 PM: I talked to the guy that shot the cougars and I don't think he knew it was private property. Those cougars were living in a culvert that the irrigation ditch flowed through. the ditch was just below the steep Poorman ck. road. The purpose of the culvet was to prevent the road sluff from sliding down into the irrigation ditch. I can see how a person could easily think it was ok. since you can't see any house and it's just in the woods and no fences or signs. Those were juveniles but fairly good sized. I estimate the male at about 100 lbs and the two females at around 75 so they had been abandoned by the mom but were still hunting together. Glad to see them go since they were hanging around close to civilization looking for trouble.
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: wildweeds on February 03, 2013, 12:23:45 PM: Did two of them have radio collars?
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: bearpaw on February 06, 2013, 04:49:29 PM: I think it would be wise if we had a topic to let everyone see this new trespass law. Sounds like something we need to make everyone aware of. Does anyone know where to get the language and post it in a new topic?
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: Humptulips on February 06, 2013, 04:57:51 PM: Did one guy kill all three? That looks like that would be trouble right there.
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: wildweeds on February 06, 2013, 05:03:38 PM: I know a guy who lives over that away that has a picture on facebook of him,his daughter and another young fellow with 3 dead cougars and three hunters with three guns,don't know if it's related to this tresspassing incident or not but the guy has always been a by the book hunter.

Quote from: Humptulips on February 06, 2013, 04:57:51 PM
Did one guy kill all three? That looks like that would be trouble right there.
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on February 06, 2013, 05:13:34 PM: I do not agree with killing all three ...thats just stupid and ignorant... :dunno: like to hear more about this !
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: bobcat on February 06, 2013, 05:20:31 PM: Quote from: BOWHUNTER45 on February 06, 2013, 05:13:34 PM
I do not agree with killing all three ...thats just stupid and ignorant... :dunno: like to hear more about this !

Why? There's no shortage of cats. However, there is a shortage of mule deer. Think how many deer they saved by killing all three.
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on February 06, 2013, 05:38:40 PM: Quote from: bobcat on February 06, 2013, 05:20:31 PM
Quote from: BOWHUNTER45 on February 06, 2013, 05:13:34 PM
I do not agree with killing all three ...thats just stupid and ignorant... :dunno: like to hear more about this !

Why? There's no shortage of cats. However, there is a shortage of mule deer. Think how many deer they save by killing all three.
To me thats being alittle greedy ...if I had 3 cats standing side by side I would not kill them all ...I actually like seeing cougars :tup: now if they were wolves ....well brake out the R15 :chuckle: :chuckle: :mgun:
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: bobcat on February 06, 2013, 05:39:35 PM: Quote from: BOWHUNTER45 on February 06, 2013, 05:38:40 PM
Quote from: bobcat on February 06, 2013, 05:20:31 PM
Quote from: BOWHUNTER45 on February 06, 2013, 05:13:34 PM
I do not agree with killing all three ...thats just stupid and ignorant... :dunno: like to hear more about this !

Why? There's no shortage of cats. However, there is a shortage of mule deer. Think how many deer they save by killing all three.
To me thats being alittle greedy ...if I had 3 cats standing side by side I would not kill them all ...I actually like seeing cougars :tup: now if they were wolves ....well brake out the R15

If I had three tags I would!
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: villageidiot on February 06, 2013, 05:50:42 PM: There were 3 seperate hunters. They set up two outside the culvert and one come in the backside and flushed them out. Two were shot as they came out and one stayed in at the entreyway and the flusher shot it as he came into view. All perfectly legit. That area has been overpopulated the last yr. with several cougars killing livestock, pets and sleeping under peoples porches. Some have been dispatched already by WDFW for being problems. Some reduction in the population was very badly needed. Another 3 or 4 would be prudent to remove except the quota has been filled so season is closed.
If you had 3 legal bucks standing on the hill and 3 licensed hunters wouldn't you all 3 shoot one if you could? Absolutely! If not then which one of you throws his tag away for the year?

2 of these had collars.
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on February 06, 2013, 05:58:51 PM: I am just saying if it was me ...As long as it was legal I can not say much :yeah: That takes some halls to crawl in a pipe with 3 cougars :yike: I know ther are alot of cougars in that area but would you rather see cougars or wolves ? I will take the cougars over a wolf any day as far as the predator that has to be roaming the hills of Washington :twocents:
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: Wea300mag on February 06, 2013, 06:29:49 PM: Thanks for the updates, I've been curious ever since they deleted the thread. This will save lots of deer and some livestock from the way it sounds. :tup:
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: wildweeds on February 06, 2013, 06:42:09 PM: looks like a match,I went to school with the fellow on the right,this picture is from his facebook page.He lives in twisp.

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/19098_4758661498833_48268694_n.jpg (http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/19098_4758661498833_48268694_n.jpg)
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: bobcat on February 06, 2013, 06:46:34 PM: Quote from: wildweeds on February 06, 2013, 06:42:09 PM
looks like a match,I went to school with the fellow on the right,this picture is from his facebook page.He lives in twisp.

Cool picture! What the heck kind of guns did they use? Does anyone recognize the guns on the left and the right?
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: wildweeds on February 06, 2013, 06:54:10 PM: Sharps replicas I believe in 45-70 govt blackpowder cartridges.The guy on the right has always been into the primitive weapons,fact is he shot a mountain goat with a recurve.He actually was instrumental in helping me out with info for my mountain goat hunt in 1994.Oh yeah he's crazy too,my guess he was the flusher.
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on February 06, 2013, 07:23:23 PM: Quote from: bearpaw on February 06, 2013, 04:49:29 PM
I think it would be wise if we had a topic to let everyone see this new trespass law. Sounds like something we need to make everyone aware of. Does anyone know where to get the language and post it in a new topic?
:yeah:
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: bobcat on February 06, 2013, 07:30:03 PM: Quote from: DBHAWTHORNE on February 06, 2013, 07:23:23 PM
Quote from: bearpaw on February 06, 2013, 04:49:29 PM
I think it would be wise if we had a topic to let everyone see this new trespass law. Sounds like something we need to make everyone aware of. Does anyone know where to get the language and post it in a new topic?
:yeah:

Like this one? http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,108362.msg1416727.html#msg1416727 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,108362.msg1416727.html#msg1416727)
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: Skyvalhunter on February 06, 2013, 07:32:07 PM: My taxidermist has 2 of these cougars at his place, he said they had nice hides
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on February 06, 2013, 07:37:14 PM: Quote from: bobcat on February 06, 2013, 07:30:03 PM
Quote from: DBHAWTHORNE on February 06, 2013, 07:23:23 PM
Quote from: bearpaw on February 06, 2013, 04:49:29 PM
I think it would be wise if we had a topic to let everyone see this new trespass law. Sounds like something we need to make everyone aware of. Does anyone know where to get the language and post it in a new topic?
:yeah:

Like this one? http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,108362.msg1416727.html#msg1416727 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,108362.msg1416727.html#msg1416727)

Thank you
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: wildweeds on February 06, 2013, 07:56:55 PM: The title of that picture should be " Saving 156 deer a year"
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on February 06, 2013, 09:51:17 PM: Quote from: BOWHUNTER45 on February 06, 2013, 05:58:51 PM
I am just saying if it was me ...As long as it was legal I can not say much :yeah: That takes some halls to crawl in a pipe with 3 cougars :yike: I know ther are alot of cougars in that area but would you rather see cougars or wolves ? I will take the cougars over a wolf any day as far as the predator that has to be roaming the hills of Washington :twocents:
I'm with you bowhunter. How is a 75 lb cougar any kind of trophy? If you want more deer, kill a coyote or support some habitat projects. I hate hearing all these people using lions as a scapegoat for other problems.
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: bobcat on February 06, 2013, 10:08:41 PM: It would be a trophy to me.

Seems to me it's kinda hard to be choosy unless you're hunting with hounds, I think I'd take whatever I can get, if the opportunity ever presents itself.

Especially considering that I've never even seen a cougar in this state.
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on February 06, 2013, 10:15:40 PM: I know that a trophy is an individual thing, but a 75 lb cat is not all that impressive...it would be like a button buck. I would rather see a lion in the woods than a deer any day. Proper habitat management could alleviate the deer population problems so that predators were not such a scapegoat for game numbers.
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on February 06, 2013, 11:23:28 PM: Those fellow hunters did the right thing for the deer population , and the rest of us who like to deer hunt! :tup:

Those cats are not babies by any means. :yike:
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on February 09, 2013, 04:09:49 AM: That was a cool picture .. minus the collars ...I have a problem there too :chuckle: I can not stand seeing an animal with a collar around his or her neck :bash: :bash: and then someone shoots one of them and now it gets worse for me ...nothen ment by what I am saying because it is just me who is talking ... THATS CRAZY ABOUT THE PIPE ...Living around town where they were most likely born and eating up the neighbors pets :dunno: :chuckle:
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: woodman on February 09, 2013, 04:35:23 AM: Quote from: BOWHUNTER45 on February 09, 2013, 04:09:49 AM
That was a cool picture .. minus the collars ...I have a problem there too :chuckle: I can not stand seeing an animal with a collar around his or her neck :bash: :bash: and then someone shoots one of them and now it gets worse for me ...nothen ment by what I am saying because it is just me who is talking ... THATS CRAZY ABOUT THE PIPE ...Living around town where they were most likely born and eating up the neighbors pets :dunno: :chuckle:

BOWHUNTER45, those collars make an animal without antlers much easier to drag. When you get one down and have to move it a long ways, they are very handy. ;)
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on February 09, 2013, 04:42:38 AM: :chuckle: :chuckle: You having trouble sleeping too ...has to be the state we live in :dunno: You have a good point there now :tup: :chuckle:
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: teanawayslayer on February 09, 2013, 06:55:31 AM: The cougar I killed not far from where they harvested these was also collared. Had a yellow tag on the caller that said call wdfw before consuming meet. I call and It takes three days for the sedative to wear off. I shot mine on the third day. What a waste of money by wdfw. A cat is just as easy to drag by the tail. You don't need horns.
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: Axle on February 09, 2013, 07:28:10 AM: Getting rid of those cats should save some deer but there are far too many more cats around and other cats will move in if there is an increase in deer numbers.
I think any cougar is a trophy and size only matters to the individual hunter. I would prefer a smaller cat if I was going to have it mounted. It would fit in the house better. The meat would probably be better too. Kinda like getting a young deer or elk for the freezer. Thumbs up to the hunters! :tup:
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: woodman on February 09, 2013, 10:47:04 AM: Quote from: teanawayslayer on February 09, 2013, 06:55:31 AM
The cougar I killed not far from where they harvested these was also collared. Had a yellow tag on the caller that said call wdfw before consuming meet. I call and It takes three days for the sedative to wear off. I shot mine on the third day. What a waste of money by wdfw. A cat is just as easy to drag by the tail. You don't need horns.

I just thought the collar made it way easier coming up out of the brush and over logs. After you turned your collar in, did you learn how far it had traveled? Mine was collared up on Bluett Pass and I shot it close to Kapowsin. That seemed like quite a ways to me.
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on February 09, 2013, 10:54:43 AM: Throw it over your shoulders and header out :dunno: :chuckle: Why would you want to risk the chance of tearing up the hide if you wanted it mounted or made into a rug :dunno:
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: elkboy on February 09, 2013, 11:03:12 AM: WAcoyotehunter has it right about habitat management- probably the most important factor- a well-fed deer herd can sustain more predation (from us as well as cats etc.). In this case, though, I feel juvenile cougars (especially some so close to town) are not a bad choice for targeting with a hunt- they cause a lot more trouble than an older, experienced cat.
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: .38-55singleshotsharps on February 09, 2013, 11:09:01 AM: Quote from: wildweeds on February 06, 2013, 05:03:38 PM
I know a guy who lives over that away that has a picture on facebook of him,his daughter and another young fellow with 3 dead cougars and three hunters with three guns,don't know if it's related to this tresspassing incident or not but the guy has always been a by the book hunter.

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Actually I'm not his daughter ~ I am the crazy guy's FULL TIME NIGHT WOMAN!! ;)
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on February 09, 2013, 11:17:06 AM: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :tup:
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: bobcat on February 09, 2013, 11:20:02 AM: 38-55, glad you found our site. Welcome!

Now let's hear the story!
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on February 09, 2013, 11:21:50 AM: :yeah: I need something else to read :dunno: :tup:
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on February 09, 2013, 11:48:21 AM: Guess we are left hanging Bobcat :dunno: :chuckle:
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: bobcat on February 09, 2013, 12:00:48 PM: Yep. Apparently she was only here to make sure we all knew she wasn't his daughter.
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: teanawayslayer on February 10, 2013, 08:52:31 AM: Quote from: BOWHUNTER45 on February 09, 2013, 10:54:43 AM
Throw it over your shoulders and header out :dunno: :chuckle: Why would you want to risk the chance of tearing up the hide if you wanted it mounted or made into a rug :dunno:
There was a couple of feet of snow. No damage to the hide. :tup:
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: woodman on February 10, 2013, 09:06:40 AM: Quote from: teanawayslayer on February 10, 2013, 08:52:31 AM
Quote from: BOWHUNTER45 on February 09, 2013, 10:54:43 AM
Throw it over your shoulders and header out :dunno: :chuckle: Why would you want to risk the chance of tearing up the hide if you wanted it mounted or made into a rug :dunno:
There was a couple of feet of snow. No damage to the hide. :tup:

There was no way for me to throw mine over my shoulder and pack it out of a canyon. It took all I could do to just lift it into my vehicle. By the way, it made a great rug.
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on February 10, 2013, 07:39:04 PM: Quote from: .38-55singleshotsharps on February 09, 2013, 11:09:01 AM
Quote from: wildweeds on February 06, 2013, 05:03:38 PM
I know a guy who lives over that away that has a picture on facebook of him,his daughter and another young fellow with 3 dead cougars and three hunters with three guns,don't know if it's related to this tresspassing incident or not but the guy has always been a by the book hunter.

Actually I'm not his daughter ~ I am the crazy guy's FULL TIME NIGHT WOMAN!! ;)
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What's a full time night woman? :dunno:
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: steen on February 10, 2013, 08:03:41 PM: I say congratulatioons to the hunters and hope they are cleared and can keep their trophies. The picture is one for the grandkids to cherish. I agree with whoever said size does not matter. The smaller ones would fit better in my house and my pocketbook. I've hunted many many hours in that area and shot my first deer up there. The picture is beautiful with the three in the snow. Awesome!!
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on February 10, 2013, 08:04:55 PM: Quote from: woodman on February 10, 2013, 09:06:40 AM
Quote from: teanawayslayer on February 10, 2013, 08:52:31 AM
Quote from: BOWHUNTER45 on February 09, 2013, 10:54:43 AM
Throw it over your shoulders and header out :dunno: :chuckle: Why would you want to risk the chance of tearing up the hide if you wanted it mounted or made into a rug :dunno:
There was a couple of feet of snow. No damage to the hide. :tup:

There was no way for me to throw mine over my shoulder and pack it out of a canyon. It took all I could do to just lift it into my vehicle. By the way, it made a great rug.
Actually me either :chuckle: I called my mean buddy to come and pack mine out :chuckle: :tup:
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: Okano-gun on February 10, 2013, 08:14:00 PM: I have no problem that they killed three cougars. I do have a problem with them tresspassing. I also have a problem with killing collared cats. How much time energy and OUR money did WDFW spend to collar those cats? And now to collar 2 new ones? Seems like a waste of resources to me.
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: huntnphool on February 10, 2013, 08:16:29 PM: Quote from: bobcat on February 06, 2013, 10:08:41 PM
It would be a trophy to me.

Seems to me it's kinda hard to be choosy unless you're hunting with hounds, I think I'd take whatever I can get, if the opportunity ever presents itself.
:yeah:
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: Smossy on February 10, 2013, 08:17:15 PM: Quote from: bobcat on February 06, 2013, 05:20:31 PM
Quote from: BOWHUNTER45 on February 06, 2013, 05:13:34 PM
I do not agree with killing all three ...thats just stupid and ignorant... :dunno: like to hear more about this !
Why? There's no shortage of cats. However, there is a shortage of mule deer. Think how many deer they saved by killing all three.
But everyone wants wolves to repopulate the state? I dont get that.
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: wildweeds on February 10, 2013, 09:06:37 PM: Perhaps wolves could fill a lost niche, hound hunting with Irish/Russian wolfhounds :yike:

Quote from: Smossy on February 10, 2013, 08:17:15 PM
Quote from: bobcat on February 06, 2013, 05:20:31 PM
Quote from: BOWHUNTER45 on February 06, 2013, 05:13:34 PM
I do not agree with killing all three ...thats just stupid and ignorant... :dunno: like to hear more about this !
Why? There's no shortage of cats. However, there is a shortage of mule deer. Think how many deer they saved by killing all three.
But everyone wants wolves to repopulate the state? I dont get that.
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on February 10, 2013, 09:12:11 PM: Quote from: wildweeds on February 10, 2013, 09:06:37 PM
Perhaps wolves could fill a lost niche, hound hunting with Irish/Russian wolfhounds :yike:

Quote from: Smossy on February 10, 2013, 08:17:15 PM
Quote from: bobcat on February 06, 2013, 05:20:31 PM
Quote from: BOWHUNTER45 on February 06, 2013, 05:13:34 PM
I do not agree with killing all three ...thats just stupid and ignorant... :dunno: like to hear more about this !
Why? There's no shortage of cats. However, there is a shortage of mule deer. Think how many deer they saved by killing all three.
But everyone wants wolves to repopulate the state? I dont get that.
Like I said earlier... i would rather have cougars in the hills rather than a dang wolf ..at least a cougar eats what he kills .. a wolf will kill just to kill , take a few bites and move on ...thats the problem I have with wolves !
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: Kola16 on February 10, 2013, 09:20:02 PM: Quote from: Smossy on February 10, 2013, 08:17:15 PM
Quote from: bobcat on February 06, 2013, 05:20:31 PM
Quote from: BOWHUNTER45 on February 06, 2013, 05:13:34 PM
I do not agree with killing all three ...thats just stupid and ignorant... :dunno: like to hear more about this !
Why? There's no shortage of cats. However, there is a shortage of mule deer. Think how many deer they saved by killing all three.
But everyone wants wolves to repopulate the state? I dont get that.

Oh, oh! .......but the natural habitat! The ecosystem! They were here first! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: woodman on February 11, 2013, 08:58:59 AM: Quote from: Okano-gun on February 10, 2013, 08:14:00 PM
I have no problem that they killed three cougars. I do have a problem with them tresspassing. I also have a problem with killing collared cats. How much time energy and OUR money did WDFW spend to collar those cats? And now to collar 2 new ones? Seems like a waste of resources to me.

The statement of having a problem with killing collared cats makes for good conversation, but if you had been in my shoes you would have done the same thing. It was only 30 feet from me and closing in. The money and resources would have been the furthest things from your mind. The game dept. also said that there was nothing wrong with it when I checked with them.
Title: Re: It Looks Like Someone Harvested Some Cougars
Post by: villageidiot on February 11, 2013, 09:46:37 PM: Without hounds to look the cat over one can not tell if they have a collar or not. You have a split second to get a shot. You've been hunting your whole life for a lion and you get a chance to shoot one. Bang! If the WDFW doesn't want collared cats shot. Very simple, Don't collar them.