Post by: splitshot on February 06, 2013, 04:43:08 PM
Post by: jackelope on February 06, 2013, 04:51:55 PM
Post by: couesbitten on February 06, 2013, 05:58:22 PM
Post by: ellensburgpo on February 06, 2013, 06:00:25 PM
Post by: h20hunter on February 06, 2013, 06:15:49 PM
Post by: D-Rock425 on February 06, 2013, 06:35:26 PM
Post by: splitshot on February 06, 2013, 09:05:36 PM
Post by: lostbackpacker on February 06, 2013, 09:16:16 PM
they had the gun in the shop and wanted to charge him money to replace the gun he was going to buy. mike wThat doesn't seem correct . I think part of the story might be missing. I've never heard of a store doing that
Post by: Widgeondeke on February 06, 2013, 09:16:47 PM
Post by: duckmen1 on February 06, 2013, 09:29:56 PM
Post by: jrebel on February 06, 2013, 09:59:41 PM
Post by: splitshot on February 06, 2013, 10:20:54 PM
Post by: jrebel on February 06, 2013, 10:28:30 PM
Post by: splitshot on February 06, 2013, 10:39:08 PM
Post by: jrebel on February 06, 2013, 10:49:47 PM
Post by: Jburke on February 06, 2013, 11:47:05 PM
does he own the m.l. store? mike wYeah pretty sure he owns both.
Post by: winshooter88 on February 07, 2013, 01:42:59 AM
Post by: splitshot on February 07, 2013, 08:39:57 AM
Post by: ICEMAN on February 07, 2013, 06:48:11 PM
i call that greed. mike w
Splitshot, ever own a business?
Greed for charging a restocking fee if someone who returns an item? If more businesses would do this, then all the prices on everything would drop since they would not have to cover the costs of restocking an item. Restocked items often have packaging which is damaged and harder to sell, another loss for the business owner.
I wish more stores would charge a restocking fee so my prices for merchandise would lessen. People need to make up their mind before they make a purchase, not after.
Post by: Bob33 on February 07, 2013, 07:01:43 PM
Post by: Alchase on February 07, 2013, 09:13:23 PM
People need to make up their mind before they make a purchase, not after.
My wife goes shopping, buys 10 items of one type, comes home tries them all on and takes back 8 or 9, lol.
I tried to tell that she should make up he mind at the store ............... she looked at me like I said the Pope was a Hari Krishna
:rolleyes:
Post by: turkeyfeather on February 07, 2013, 09:23:22 PM
That's blasphemy! How could you even suggest such a thing? :chuckle:People need to make up their mind before they make a purchase, not after.
My wife goes shopping, buys 10 items of one type, comes home tries them all on and takes back 8 or 9, lol.
I tried to tell that she should make up he mind at the store ............... she looked at me like I said the Pope was a Hari Krishna
:rolleyes:
Post by: turkeyfeather on February 07, 2013, 09:38:11 PM
Post by: sirmissalot on February 07, 2013, 09:46:43 PM
i call that greed. mike w
Splitshot, ever own a business?
Greed for charging a restocking fee if someone who returns an item? If more businesses would do this, then all the prices on everything would drop since they would not have to cover the costs of restocking an item. Restocked items often have packaging which is damaged and harder to sell, another loss for the business owner.
I wish more stores would charge a restocking fee so my prices for merchandise would lessen. People need to make up their mind before they make a purchase, not after.
Maybe I misunderstood but the way I read it he wasn't returning a firearm, he wanted to buy one off the shelf and they wanted to charge a fee to replace or "restock" the item. If he was wanting to return it he couldn't have went to another store and bought one without the fee and at a lower price... At least that's the way I'm reading it. Otherwise I completely agree, restocking fees are necessary in many industries and a special order firearm would be no different.
Post by: jrebel on February 07, 2013, 09:54:34 PM
Post by: jackelope on February 08, 2013, 05:48:48 AM
My guess is that this guy ordered a gun, and then changed his mind and wanted something that was instockand he could have now. The shop owner probably couldn't cancel the order and now has a gun coming with no buyer. If this is the case then I completely agree with the shop owner andwould charge the fee. :twocents:
:yeah:
Post by: KelseyH on February 08, 2013, 06:52:43 AM
Your friend is quite confused. We do charge a restocking fee but only in the following circumstances:
1. You put a gun on layaway and don't finish paying it off
2. You special order an item that you decide you don't want
3. This is the big one which we have had to enact over the last 3 months. Due to unprecedented amount of people tying to purchase guns who KNOWINGLY cannot pass a background check. Basically, if you come into our store, waste our time purchasing a gun, getting all the details about it, run your background check and get denied because of something you in the past that caused you the right to currently own a firearm, we are going to ding you.
My staff has been instructed to help ANYONE with the denial process including Appeals and instructions to have your firearms rights restored. If you choose to appeal or seek restoration of rights, we will not charge you a restocking fee, but will continue to hold the firearm until the process is completed. If you are not willing to seek to get your rights restored or are not willing appeal because you "Know what they will say", then your going to get hit with the fee. Trying to purchase a firearm when you knowingly cant and lying on a 4473 background check is a federal offense. In this currently charged political environment, we are in desperate need of more LEGAL gun owners. The last thing we need is someone trying to skirt the law to purchase a gun. It reflects poorly on all legal gun owners and gives leverage to those who would like to take our 2nd Amendment rights away.
KelseyH
High Mountain Hunting Supply, LLC
Owner
Post by: lostbackpacker on February 08, 2013, 07:08:43 AM
Post by: jrebel on February 08, 2013, 07:13:21 AM
Maybe it would be a good idea for someone to come up with a "pre-approval" method. Similar to getting pre qualed for a home loan.
Really??? You know if your legal or not??? And if you really want the pre approval just get your cpl
Post by: ICEMAN on February 08, 2013, 07:18:16 AM
Post by: JLS on February 08, 2013, 07:24:08 AM
Maybe it would be a good idea for someone to come up with a "pre-approval" method. Similar to getting pre qualed for a home loan.
Really??? You know if your legal or not??? And if you really want the pre approval just get your cpl
Kind of what I was thinking.
"Oh snap! I completely forgot about that Class C Felony I plea bargained too. I thought that was gone from my record!" :rolleyes:
Post by: jrebel on February 08, 2013, 07:25:23 AM
Post by: walleye1 on February 08, 2013, 07:52:31 AM
Post by: lostbackpacker on February 08, 2013, 08:19:52 AM
Maybe it would be a good idea for someone to come up with a "pre-approval" method. Similar to getting pre qualed for a home loan.
Really??? You know if your legal or not??? And if you really want the pre approval just get your cpl
Not quite sure how it could work. I understand the restocking fee for someone knowingly wasting time when they know they wont get approved. I just thought it might be a "process starter" for lack of better terms.
I think most people know if they are legal or not.
Maybe the stores should have a "Permit" line and a "Yeah, I think I'm okay" line and then a "Looky loo" line :dunno:
Just a thought
Post by: Special T on February 08, 2013, 08:41:08 AM
Post by: splitshot on February 08, 2013, 10:52:00 AM
Post by: KelseyH on February 08, 2013, 11:51:24 AM
For the record, its not always good policy to slam a business about their practices, pricing, and donations then find out you were inaccurate in previous statements and then see if they would be interested in donating a gun to the next banquet all in the same thread.
We strongly support RMEF (4 Banquets), Ducks Unlimited (4 Banquets), Pheasants Forever (2 Banquets), CCA (2 Banquets), Friends of the NRA (3 Banquets) along with several others. Our donation total exceeded my personal salary.
All of our donations are based on the support we get from the community.
Just something for you to keep in mind, as will I.
KelseyH
Owner
High Mountain Hunting Supply, LLC
Post by: 92xj on February 08, 2013, 11:54:12 AM
Post by: CP on February 08, 2013, 12:05:09 PM
3. This is the big one which we have had to enact over the last 3 months. Due to unprecedented amount of people tying to purchase guns who KNOWINGLY cannot pass a background check. Basically, if you come into our store, waste our time purchasing a gun, getting all the details about it, run your background check and get denied because of something you in the past that caused you the right to currently own a firearm, we are going to ding you.
My staff has been instructed to help ANYONE with the denial process including Appeals and instructions to have your firearms rights restored. If you choose to appeal or seek restoration of rights, we will not charge you a restocking fee, but will continue to hold the firearm until the process is completed. If you are not willing to seek to get your rights restored or are not willing appeal because you "Know what they will say", then your going to get hit with the fee. Trying to purchase a firearm when you knowingly cant and lying on a 4473 background check is a federal offense. In this currently charged political environment, we are in desperate need of more LEGAL gun owners. The last thing we need is someone trying to skirt the law to purchase a gun. It reflects poorly on all legal gun owners and gives leverage to those who would like to take our 2nd Amendment rights away.
KelseyH
High Mountain Hunting Supply, LLC
Owner
These people should do time in addition to your restocking fee. Do you report them to LE?
Post by: ellensburgpo on February 08, 2013, 12:05:42 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on February 08, 2013, 12:10:12 PM
Maybe it would be a good idea for someone to come up with a "pre-approval" method. Similar to getting pre qualed for a home loan.
This is kind of a funny suggestion. "Really sir, I have a felony on my record? I had no idea!" :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: pianoman9701 on February 08, 2013, 12:16:48 PM
Kelsey, thank you for supporting the organizations you do and through that, the conservation of our wildlife resources. You're an example of a good and ethical businessperson, as far as I can tell. :tup:
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on February 08, 2013, 12:30:33 PM
Maybe it would be a good idea for someone to come up with a "pre-approval" method. Similar to getting pre qualed for a home loan.
This is kind of a funny suggestion. "Really sir, I have a felony on my record? I had no idea!" :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
This happens more often than you would think--The record gets expunged, and is forwarded to the local authorities, but the Feds never are made aware of it, so it pops up in the NICS check. One hand doesn't know what the other hand is doing, so to speak.
Post by: pianoman9701 on February 08, 2013, 01:38:43 PM
Maybe it would be a good idea for someone to come up with a "pre-approval" method. Similar to getting pre qualed for a home loan.
This is kind of a funny suggestion. "Really sir, I have a felony on my record? I had no idea!" :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
This happens more often than you would think--The record gets expunged, and is forwarded to the local authorities, but the Feds never are made aware of it, so it pops up in the NICS check. One hand doesn't know what the other hand is doing, so to speak.
Heredoggy, you make a valid point. But, a pre-approval would do exactly what that the background check doesn't? All we need is another hoop to jump through to get guns. Oh yeah, no we don't.
Post by: KelseyH on February 08, 2013, 01:55:26 PM
Post by: KelseyH on February 08, 2013, 02:00:28 PM
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These people should do time in addition to your restocking fee. Do you report them to LE?
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Yes, all of them are reported to the ATF. Sadly, very few are followed up on.
Post by: splitshot on February 08, 2013, 02:42:03 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on February 08, 2013, 02:42:53 PM
kelsey, i do apologize to you and i will not use any excuses for anything. a opened my mouth when i should not have. AND TO PROVE TO YOU I AM NOT MAD IN ANY WAY I JUST BOUGHT AN XD 9 FROM YOUR STORE AND WILL PICK IT UP IN M.L. ON TUESDAY. I WILL STOP IN AND SEE YOU WHEN I CAN. thanks for calling me on my word. mike w
Well done, Mike. :tup:
Post by: KelseyH on February 08, 2013, 03:11:17 PM
My thanks!
Kelsey
Owner
High Mountain Hunting Supply, LLC
Post by: ICEMAN on February 08, 2013, 06:00:04 PM
kelsey, i do apologize to you and i will not use any excuses for anything. a opened my mouth when i should not have. AND TO PROVE TO YOU I AM NOT MAD IN ANY WAY I JUST BOUGHT AN XD 9 FROM YOUR STORE AND WILL PICK IT UP IN M.L. ON TUESDAY. I WILL STOP IN AND SEE YOU WHEN I CAN. thanks for calling me on my word. mike w
Wow splitshot, nice. You really stepped up and set a great example.
Post by: jrebel on February 08, 2013, 06:08:04 PM
Post by: KelseyH on February 09, 2013, 12:38:11 PM
Post by: splitshot on February 09, 2013, 02:37:58 PM
Post by: jackelope on February 09, 2013, 02:54:11 PM
Post by: splitshot on February 09, 2013, 04:05:03 PM
Post by: mountainman on February 10, 2013, 07:38:57 AM
Dewey M.
Manager
High Mountain Wenatchee
Post by: dscubame on February 10, 2013, 08:38:25 AM
Mike W --
For the record, its not always good policy to slam a business about their practices, pricing, and donations then find out you were inaccurate in previous statements and then see if they would be interested in donating a gun to the next banquet all in the same thread.
We strongly support RMEF (4 Banquets), Ducks Unlimited (4 Banquets), Pheasants Forever (2 Banquets), CCA (2 Banquets), Friends of the NRA (3 Banquets) along with several others. Our donation total exceeded my personal salary.
All of our donations are based on the support we get from the community.
Just something for you to keep in mind, as will I.
KelseyH
Owner
High Mountain Hunting Supply, LLC
You have a great store and carry quality stuff. I stopped by on my way to the concrete side from Spokane to check you out and liked what I saw. Sort of reminded me of 15 years ago the Husky Shop (i think) in Moscow ID where they only put on the shelves what they would use in the field. Other than increasing lower receiver prices right off the bat to take advantage of the opportunity to sell them at over $300 I liked what I saw and will be back.
Post by: mountainman on February 10, 2013, 09:16:00 AM
Mike W --
For the record, its not always good policy to slam a business about their practices, pricing, and donations then find out you were inaccurate in previous statements and then see if they would be interested in donating a gun to the next banquet all in the same thread.
We strongly support RMEF (4 Banquets), Ducks Unlimited (4 Banquets), Pheasants Forever (2 Banquets), CCA (2 Banquets), Friends of the NRA (3 Banquets) along with several others. Our donation total exceeded my personal salary.
All of our donations are based on the support we get from the community.
Just something for you to keep in mind, as will I.
KelseyH
Owner
High Mountain Hunting Supply, LLC
You have a great store and carry quality stuff. I stopped by on my way to the concrete side from Spokane to check you out and liked what I saw. Sort of reminded me of 15 years ago the Husky Shop (i think) in Moscow ID where they only put on the shelves what they would use in the field. Other than increasing lower receiver prices right off the bat to take advantage of the opportunity to sell them at over $300 I liked what I saw and will be back.
Thank you! :)