Post by: crschralping on February 12, 2013, 04:28:18 PM
Post by: Skillet on February 12, 2013, 04:37:04 PM
Post by: bobcat on February 12, 2013, 04:46:51 PM
Post by: kentrek on February 12, 2013, 04:58:36 PM
1..intended use
2..how much money are your able to spend
3..how much do you want it to weigh in at (refer back to step one)
4..how fast you'd like the lead to go (refer back to step one)
5..duration of use..is this a life long hunting partner ? or just a gun to get you into the woods
some food for thought
Post by: buckfvr on February 12, 2013, 05:07:43 PM
Post by: crschralping on February 12, 2013, 05:25:03 PM
ELK, DEER
2..how much money are your able to spend
UNLIMITED WITHIN REASON 3-4K MAX.
3..how much do you want it to weigh in at (refer back to step one)
LIGHT AS POSSIBLE BUT ACCURACY IS MOST IMPORTANT.
4..how fast you'd like the lead to go (refer back to step one)
??? ELK
5..duration of use..is this a life long hunting partner ? or just a gun to get you into the woods
LIFE LONG
First you need to decide which 7mm cartridge you want. There are several of them. Personally, I like the 7mm WSM.
ITS ACTUALLY FOR MY DAD, HES THINKING 7MM MAG.
If you are relatively new to shooting, you may want to hook up with someone who owns one of the 7mms and send a few rounds down range.....make sure its what you are looking for.
NOT NEW TO SHOOTING LIFE LONG HUNTER, CURRENTLY SHOOTING REM 700 30-06 165 OR 180GR CORE LOKT
Post by: RadSav on February 12, 2013, 05:25:32 PM
I have found some tempermental behaviors in 7mm guns over the years. Some like light bullets, some like heavy bullets and few like all bullets. Not sure why that is :dunno: Because of this my Custom Browning will be going off to get a new fluted match grade barrel. I'm told that should take care of any issues. We'll have to see.
If looking for a target rifle that might see a little hunting I'm not sure I have ever shot one better than the Remington Sendaro. Not sure they still offer it in 7 mag, but it was a fantastic gun. Though I would not want to carry it too far from the truck. And certainly would not be taking many of hand shots with it.
As with any weapon it all boils down to personal preference. Not many bad guns out there these days. Find the one that talks to you in a seductive voice and buy her. I'm sure your going to be happy together for many, many years to come :tup:
Post by: Taco280AI on February 12, 2013, 05:31:21 PM
http://www.defensiveedge.net/Custom%20Rifle/custom%20rifles.htm (http://www.defensiveedge.net/Custom%20Rifle/custom%20rifles.htm)
RBros offers rifles like that as well and is local. Good guy and great work.
Post by: crschralping on February 12, 2013, 05:35:34 PM
http://www.defensiveedge.net/Custom%20Rifle/custom%20rifles.htm (http://www.defensiveedge.net/Custom%20Rifle/custom%20rifles.htm)
THANKS FOR THE LINK!
RBros offers rifles like that as well and is local. Good guy and great work.
I SENT HIM THE LINK TO RBROS, WHEN I ASKED HIM ABOUT BUDGET HE JUST SAID DONT TELL MOM, HAHA.
Post by: huntnphool on February 12, 2013, 05:37:35 PM
Post by: buckfvr on February 12, 2013, 05:50:13 PM
Post by: kentrek on February 12, 2013, 05:50:57 PM
4..how fast you'd like the lead to go (refer back to step one)
??? ELK
i was thinking of like a max range ?? do you wana shoot elk at 1000 yards ? cuz that would force ya to have an X amount of foot pounds of wammy down range to kill..idk what your "x" is but mine is around 850 foot pounds which is achievable in the 7wsm...some people really want there elk dead so they shoot the ultras or the stw or what ever but that adds weight to the action and barrel
light an accurate are kinda hit or miss...id def stay away from the thin barrel rifles
but anything in your price range should shoot as good as you can reload
personaly id go with a stiller action,proof carbon barrel,H-S precision stock,7 wsm .. all put together by whom ever is an amazing gun smith
Post by: bobcat on February 12, 2013, 05:56:48 PM
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ITS ACTUALLY FOR MY DAD, HES THINKING 7MM MAG.
So you say he wants a magnum, but still, the question is, which one?
There is the 7mm Winchester Short Magnum, the 7mm Remington Magnum, the 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum, the 7mm STW, and a couple of others.
Post by: crschralping on February 12, 2013, 06:04:52 PM
There is the 7mm Winchester Short Magnum, the 7mm Remington Magnum, the 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum, the 7mm STW, and a couple of others.
SORRY, IM NOT THAT KNOWLAGABLE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS... IF I HAD TO GUESS I WOULD SAY REM MAG, OR WSM. IM TEXTING HIM BACK AND FORTH AS THIS GOES. IF IT HELPS HE TELLS ME HIS MAX RANGE IS 500 YARDS WANTS TO SHOOT FACTORY AMMO.
Post by: norsepeak on February 12, 2013, 06:20:51 PM
Post by: Curly on February 12, 2013, 06:28:00 PM
So you say he wants a magnum, but still, the question is, which one?
There is the 7mm Winchester Short Magnum, the 7mm Remington Magnum, the 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum, the 7mm STW, and a couple of others.
SORRY, IM NOT THAT KNOWLAGABLE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS... IF I HAD TO GUESS I WOULD SAY REM MAG, OR WSM. IM TEXTING HIM BACK AND FORTH AS THIS GOES. IF IT HELPS HE TELLS ME HIS MAX RANGE IS 500 YARDS WANTS TO SHOOT FACTORY AMMO.
Max range of 500 yards and factory ammo........then he doesn't really need a $3,000 rifle. Browning X-bolt in 7 mm Rem Mag comes to mind. Or Savage if he doesn't mind an "ugly" rifle. :twocents:
Post by: Dan-o on February 12, 2013, 06:29:22 PM
So you say he wants a magnum, but still, the question is, which one?
There is the 7mm Winchester Short Magnum, the 7mm Remington Magnum, the 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum, the 7mm STW, and a couple of others.
SORRY, IM NOT THAT KNOWLAGABLE WHEN IT COMES TO THIS... IF I HAD TO GUESS I WOULD SAY REM MAG, OR WSM. IM TEXTING HIM BACK AND FORTH AS THIS GOES. IF IT HELPS HE TELLS ME HIS MAX RANGE IS 500 YARDS WANTS TO SHOOT FACTORY AMMO.
Max range of 500 yards and factory ammo........then he doesn't really need a $3,000 rifle. Browning X-bolt in 7 mm Rem Mag comes to mind. Or Savage if he doesn't mind an "ugly" rifle that will outshoot a Browning X-Bolt. :twocents:
Fixed it for ya, Curly. :tup:
Post by: bobcat on February 12, 2013, 06:32:46 PM
Post by: Curly on February 12, 2013, 06:42:17 PM
I agree with the Sako, too. He could spend the extra coin on a really good scope too....... :twocents:
Post by: buckfvr on February 12, 2013, 06:42:47 PM
Post by: bobcat on February 12, 2013, 06:44:37 PM
Post by: crschralping on February 12, 2013, 06:52:30 PM
Post by: hiway_99 on February 12, 2013, 06:52:42 PM
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Post by: kentrek on February 12, 2013, 06:54:04 PM
Post by: JPhelps on February 12, 2013, 06:56:01 PM
He built me a 7mm mag and I cant wait to stretch the legs out on it this spring.
Post by: RadSav on February 12, 2013, 07:55:32 PM
LIGHT AS POSSIBLE BUT ACCURACY IS MOST IMPORTANT."
To my way of thinking that puts the longrange hunters out of the mix.
7WSM is a great round, but the mention of factory ammo throws that one out too. It's a shame as it is quite possibly the best of the WSM's IMO.
American made would be nice. Problem is not many of them offer a lightweight 7 mag option unless you go custom. I'd like to see Ruger come out with a stainless American w/ 24" barrel. The Remington version sounds good too though I have not gotten to put my hands on one. Dang bunghole ugly, but very affordable and accurate. You could put $1,500.00 in glass on one and still be within budget. Can probably still do that with the Sako.
Would sure hate to see you bust the budget on a custom gun and not be able to put some good glass on it.
Post by: coachcw on February 12, 2013, 08:06:54 PM
Post by: kentrek on February 12, 2013, 08:23:57 PM
"3..how much do you want it to weigh in at (refer back to step one)
LIGHT AS POSSIBLE BUT ACCURACY IS MOST IMPORTANT."
To my way of thinking that puts the longrange hunters out of the mix.
gotta disagree abit
light guns can shoot as far as the shooter can,heavy guns just make it easier to hold steady
just takes more practice :tup:
Post by: RadSav on February 12, 2013, 09:32:20 PM
"3..how much do you want it to weigh in at (refer back to step one)
LIGHT AS POSSIBLE BUT ACCURACY IS MOST IMPORTANT."
To my way of thinking that puts the longrange hunters out of the mix.
gotta disagree abit
light guns can shoot as far as the shooter can,heavy guns just make it easier to hold steady
just takes more practice :tup:
My intent simply was most longrange hunters are anything but light. If you want to use all capitals to express "LIGHT AS POSSIBLE BUT ACCURACY IS MOST IMPORTANT." I interpret that as, weight is very important as long as it will still shoot accurately. Perhaps I pay a little too much attention to cap-locks :dunno:
Post by: kentrek on February 12, 2013, 09:53:31 PM
"3..how much do you want it to weigh in at (refer back to step one)
LIGHT AS POSSIBLE BUT ACCURACY IS MOST IMPORTANT."
To my way of thinking that puts the longrange hunters out of the mix.
gotta disagree abit
light guns can shoot as far as the shooter can,heavy guns just make it easier to hold steady
just takes more practice :tup:
My intent simply was most longrange hunters are anything but light. If you want to use all capitals to express "LIGHT AS POSSIBLE BUT ACCURACY IS MOST IMPORTANT." I interpret that as, weight is very important as long as it will still shoot accurately. Perhaps I pay a little too much attention to cap-locks :dunno:
i was thinkn he was just using cap-locks to show his response..i was thinking you meant in order to shoot long range you must go "heavy"
my heads been in a book for the last 7 hours so ive been alil brain dead
Post by: RadSav on February 12, 2013, 10:00:32 PM
Post by: addicted on February 12, 2013, 11:22:06 PM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,90640.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,90640.0.html)
Post by: kentrek on February 12, 2013, 11:36:16 PM
Ran my 7mm out to 600 yards last month. Something weird bout the combo i'm running.... didnt have to start doping till 400.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,90640.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,90640.0.html)
are you about 4-5 inches high at 100 ?
Post by: addicted on February 13, 2013, 12:59:36 AM
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Post by: crschralping on February 14, 2013, 03:50:39 PM