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Title: new broadheads
Post by: browney5er on February 14, 2013, 09:55:42 AM: I'm new to archery and not sure where I should go from here. I just bought a bow in January I've pretty much got it tuned and sighted in. I decided I was going to go with the montec 100 gr broadheads so I bought the practice ones. I shot them today and they grouped fairly good at 20 yds but when I went to pull my arrows I noticed they entered the target at an angle. Actually two different angles. I'm shooting gold tip xt hunters 5575 30" long with 100gr field pts with 30" dl and 60#. I did paper tune the bow with the field pts and got it dialed.
Title: Re: new broadheads
Post by: D-Rock425 on February 14, 2013, 10:05:44 AM: Whats your draw length? Maybe a spine issue with a 5575 being 30 inches long. :dunno:
Title: Re: new broadheads
Post by: browney5er on February 14, 2013, 10:10:35 AM: 30" draw length.
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Post by: brocka on February 14, 2013, 10:28:31 AM: Looks like your right on the edge of being able to shoot the 7595. Just a thought.

http://www.goldtip.com/arrowcontent.aspx?page=chart (http://www.goldtip.com/arrowcontent.aspx?page=chart)
Title: Re: new broadheads
Post by: browney5er on February 14, 2013, 10:33:31 AM: The thing shoots 100gr field pts beautifully, I thought from everything I've read the montecs were supposed to be the equivalent to field pts.
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Post by: earlmarne on February 14, 2013, 01:10:19 PM: i dont think there is a broadhead out that the company doesnt claim that it flies like a field point.
if you are underspined it will show through when you throw a broadhead on.atleast that has always proven true for me.
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Post by: bowjunkie on February 14, 2013, 01:29:54 PM: Had a similar problem under spined was the problem
My arrows are 32
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Post by: bowjunkie on February 14, 2013, 01:31:13 PM: Ur problems with form will also present more when shooting broadheads
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Post by: JPhelps on February 14, 2013, 01:35:40 PM: Broadhead tune your bow.

Shoot at 20 yards and shoot at 60 yards. Does your group move in a direction. If so adjustments to the rest and/or nock point are needed to get your bow in tune.

Shooting field tips can cover up the fact your bow is out of tune.
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Post by: wildmanoutdoors on February 14, 2013, 01:36:38 PM: Try some Slick Tricks! :tup:
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Post by: bowjunkie on February 14, 2013, 01:51:07 PM: :yeah:
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Post by: demontang on February 14, 2013, 02:58:14 PM: What bow did you get. Im willing to bet its out of tune. Take it to a pro shop or some where they can time the cam. Ive been tuning my new bow and need to sight it in before I go to my muzzys.
Title: Re: new broadheads
Post by: browney5er on February 14, 2013, 06:40:42 PM: I bought a PSE EVO 7 it's got the lines on the cams and there still lined up on the string.
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Post by: D-Rock425 on February 14, 2013, 06:50:54 PM: That explains everything PSE :bash:. Just joking its hard to trouble shoot without seeing or shooting the bow. My first bet is spine problem broadheads multiple any little problem.
Title: Re: new broadheads
Post by: RadSav on February 14, 2013, 07:22:05 PM: The EVO is hard on arrows. If the chart says your on the edge of spine you are probably under spined shooting the PSE. Although I would venture to say your 31" of arrow and 100 grain broadhead puts you very light on the front. So I'd expect your FOC is out of whack. Also, where did you get the arrows? What vanes? Do they have a twist/helical?

Judging an arrows flight by the angle of the arrow in the target is not always a true test either. You have to watch them in flight to be sure. Especially if your target has multiple layers that the heads enter at an angle. Montecs out of the box are not the sharpest tool. So the dull surfaces will easily follow the path of the media orientation. If they are at different angles to one another it's a good bet this or poor FOC in wind is what's happening.

Good luck! Sure hope you're having some fun :tup:
Title: Re: new broadheads
Post by: demontang on February 14, 2013, 09:49:37 PM: Wish you where closer I wouldnt mind helping. There are lots of things it can be, I had to twist my strings a little to get the right kick out of my bow. Do you have the bow maxed out when the cams are in time? Do you use a rad or metapeep? Dloop? Got you vanes lined up with the heads?
Title: Re: new broadheads
Post by: KelseyH on February 14, 2013, 11:20:53 PM: I use the montecs and they do require a little retuning to shoot accurately. It is extremely difficult for a Broadhead to perform the same as a field point. It is simply physics. Your adding increased drag and sheer forces that will magnify changes from non true flight. A stiffer arrow may really help you here. Regardless, expect to retune anytime you go to a different point.
Title: Re: new broadheads
Post by: D-Rock425 on February 15, 2013, 06:06:08 AM: Montechs are a good solid head but nowhere near the sharpest. How bid is your normal group?
Title: Re: new broadheads
Post by: browney5er on February 15, 2013, 09:20:10 PM: Thanks for all your help, it looks like I've got some more tuning to do.
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Post by: OSCAR1987 on February 18, 2013, 09:24:33 PM: I had the same issue with my Muzzy's this season, Had to go to the 7595's and it was all good after that.
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Post by: lghtnquik on February 19, 2013, 10:12:04 AM: You can assume nothing by the way they look as if they entered the target. Walk back tune see if the group drifts left/right or up/down and adjust rest based on that.
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Post by: Smossy on February 19, 2013, 10:18:35 AM: Boy do I have a lot to learn, holy cow. Maybe this is my next project when I get some money. Get my bow properly tuned and get the correct arrows, lengths, spine on them.
Title: Re: new broadheads
Post by: demontang on February 19, 2013, 01:25:28 PM: In archery if your not learning new things your not growing . Ive spent a few hrs today fine tuning my sights.
Title: Re: new broadheads
Post by: Smossy on February 19, 2013, 02:18:01 PM: Quote from: demontang on February 19, 2013, 01:25:28 PM
In archery if your not learning new things your not growing . Ive spent a few hrs today fine tuning my sights.
Yeah, I need to get the courage to man up and go down to the archery range that my girl bought me a membership for a year at "Tacoma Sportsmans Club", Just not sure how everything works down there at the range. Blah, stupid butterflies.
Title: Re: new broadheads
Post by: demontang on February 19, 2013, 02:21:11 PM: If its anything like the guys around here there no reason to have butterflys. They will probly help you out more then you think. :tup:
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Post by: Smossy on February 19, 2013, 02:22:56 PM: Quote from: demontang on February 19, 2013, 02:21:11 PM
If its anything like the guys around here there no reason to have butterflys. They will probly help you out more then you think. :tup:
I know it, just not sure how it works. I drove by the other day looking for someone we were supposed to meet 4 hours prior but missed him due to lack of communication, no big deal. Looks cool. When you shoot downrange, and are out of arrows, how does that work? Is it like a gun range and I gotta yell CLEAR or what
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Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on February 19, 2013, 02:30:05 PM: First of all get rid of the aluminum arrows :chuckle: just saying :dunno: :chuckle: It took me along time to switch to carbon but now that I have I will never go back ..then get cha some 100 gr Wasp Boss and then your doing something....Just had to toss that in there to :stirthepot: :lol4: :archery_smiley: just keep spending lots of money trying to find the perfect broadhead ...then once you have been threw them all ...Go and buy those Wasps and then let me know what you think !! lmao !!!!! ;)
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Post by: D-Rock425 on February 19, 2013, 02:42:41 PM: I thought you were taking a break :dunno: