Post by: BuckHunter23 on September 25, 2008, 08:07:22 PM
Post by: Wea300mag on September 25, 2008, 08:31:35 PM
Post by: spin05 on September 28, 2008, 07:08:17 PM
Post by: Twispriver on September 29, 2008, 01:13:52 PM
Post by: Alchase on September 29, 2008, 01:28:32 PM
Post by: spin05 on September 29, 2008, 03:26:23 PM
Post by: boneaddict on September 29, 2008, 03:29:55 PM
Post by: saylean on September 29, 2008, 03:30:59 PM
or whiteys...
of course..i havent shot a muley since I got a spike like in 92!
Post by: WDFW-SUX on September 29, 2008, 03:50:35 PM
I tell you boys, this is the lowest population of deer I have seen in the Methow my entire life.
:puke:
Post by: boneaddict on September 29, 2008, 03:58:40 PM
Post by: WDFW-SUX on September 29, 2008, 04:03:45 PM
ITS BAD
Post by: waoutdoorsman on September 29, 2008, 04:14:11 PM
I tell you boys, this is the lowest population of deer I have seen in the Methow my entire life.
:'(
Post by: boneaddict on September 29, 2008, 04:55:26 PM
Post by: Wea300mag on September 29, 2008, 07:25:04 PM
hell of a year to have a late tag. Oh well, I am having fun no matter what.
Bone, you should just eat that late deer tag. Too much other hunting going on.
Post by: boneaddict on September 29, 2008, 07:28:21 PM
Post by: WDFW-SUX on September 29, 2008, 07:30:42 PM
Post by: alecvg on September 29, 2008, 09:05:13 PM
I tell you boys, this is the lowest population of deer I have seen in the Methow my entire life.
We saw 150 to 200 deer there saterday night just driving around outside of Winthrop past Big Twin lake and that whole area, that isn't too bad is it? Or did it used to be way better than that? Granted we only saw a few bucks, but we saw a ton of bucks this summer, including some nice ones.
Post by: kirkl on September 29, 2008, 09:14:01 PM
Post by: turbo on September 29, 2008, 10:17:39 PM
thats normal for that area out in those fields usually.
They are always there! I'm sure I will fill the doe tag but not sure about the buck her e in the methow.
Post by: Buckoholic on September 29, 2008, 11:06:40 PM
Post by: boneaddict on September 30, 2008, 06:45:39 AM
Post by: boneaddict on September 30, 2008, 06:49:17 AM
Post by: shorthair-on-point on September 30, 2008, 08:38:19 AM
Just hunt Twin Lakes!! :'( :'( Went through there last week and seen 6 bucks 4 points or better!!! To bad there is so many tree huggers there!! :( :(
My parents have a place on Twin Lakes. I was practicing on a 3d target in their back yard a few years back and had the cops called on me. The cop just laughed when he saw I was just shooting a target. Jokingly asked if I had a tag for that. I have had people yelling at me when I was pulled over on the side of the road just glassing deer around there. So yah, a lot of tree huggers there.
Post by: wilywin on September 30, 2008, 02:21:28 PM
Post by: turbo on October 01, 2008, 12:54:01 PM
Post by: Alchase on October 01, 2008, 07:05:12 PM
Post by: wilywin on October 01, 2008, 09:52:48 PM
Post by: BuckHunter23 on October 01, 2008, 11:07:34 PM
Post by: DeerHarvester on October 01, 2008, 11:28:06 PM
Post by: spin05 on October 02, 2008, 07:35:02 AM
Post by: kirkl on October 02, 2008, 09:20:20 AM
Post by: kirkl on October 02, 2008, 09:23:42 AM
Post by: Oldguy on October 02, 2008, 09:46:25 AM
Everywere i went there was cattle.I know on the bear cr. rd. side my buddy has a cabin there and says that guy runs his cattle right thru private property to get to the range land.When he yelled at him.He told him he can do what he wants it free range land.......I guess he is quite the a$$ from what he said.
The conflict with ranchers in that area is mainly caused by uninformed people who are not residents of the valley. There are permit grazing lands in the Okanagan National Forest and the open grazing laws the Methow Valley state that a property owner is responsible to fence his property to keep out cattle, not like non-open grazing land where the cattle must be fenced in. Hope that helps better understand the conflict.
Post by: Alchase on October 02, 2008, 11:51:45 AM
I was refering to my spot wich is almost 20 miles NE of town up in the hills. I have seen more deer the last 2 years than ever before. Last year (2007) i got a nice 5x5 along with my uncle and his Doe tag. The year before (2006) we got a 4x4 and 3x2 in our camp. I just dont buy into the deer number being down. Lots of fawns and lots of deer from what i have seen! By the way only like 10 more days! Woooo Hoo!
Where exactly was that? LOL just kidding.
I do not think the area ever fully recovered after the first year "youth any deer tag" was allowed. We saw one camp that had fourteen deer (spikes and does) hanging after the opener. they had butt loads of kids in their camp. Funny the kids could not remember who shot which deer? I remember every deer I have ever shot, especially my first one. Add two fires over the same range in the following years, if I was a deer I would leave the are as well, lol. I shot my biggest buck in that area in a year we only saw two shooters and I took one of them, so go figure. :rolleyes:
Post by: saylean on October 02, 2008, 12:03:52 PM
Plus, the way the economy is going, I am sure I can use the meat.
Post by: boneaddict on October 02, 2008, 12:08:38 PM
As for the magazines. :chuckle:
That cattle rancher is probably one of my old best friends from Highschool, and I laugh at it. Those damn Californians hate it when the cattle come through and *censored* on their green lawns. LOL
Post by: Oldguy on October 02, 2008, 03:50:24 PM
Post by: wilywin on October 02, 2008, 06:36:32 PM
Wiilywin, I'm not trying to persuade people one way or another. I just post what I know and what I see and believe it or not I have a bit of experience in the area. :) Goodluck.
Post by: wilywin on October 02, 2008, 06:38:32 PM
Post by: boneaddict on October 02, 2008, 06:46:41 PM
Post by: alecvg on October 02, 2008, 06:55:51 PM
Actually there are usually about 500-800 there in that area, so yeah, that is bad.
What do you mean by usually; I have never seen that many deer there in the past 10 years, and haven't even heard of that many in the past 15 years. The most I have seen in a night is a little over 300, and we check quite a bit. I am sure it was much better 20 or 30 years ago.
Post by: boneaddict on October 02, 2008, 07:04:58 PM
Post by: alecvg on October 02, 2008, 07:07:53 PM
Post by: alecvg on October 02, 2008, 07:10:56 PM
The whole area from wolf creek from Winthrop through Twin Lakes up towards Patterson and the Moccasin Lake ranch back towards the High School, you can see 100 IN A FIELD :dunno:
Ya, I can agree with you, but I still do not ever remember seeing 500 to 800, maybe 300 or 400 on a good day, not EVERY field has the huge herds in them. But I think the low numbers now are because of the terrible winter kills in the past couple years, it will go back to normal. :twocents:
Post by: boneaddict on October 02, 2008, 07:15:17 PM
Big thing I blame on the hippies is them building all over prime realestate(core winter range) then getting big dogs, but thats a whole other issue. The other would be what you are saying and all the deer that get smucked on the hiway.
Post by: alecvg on October 02, 2008, 07:18:40 PM
Post by: Oldguy on October 03, 2008, 10:16:51 AM
It does indeed. Know him? I would like to call him a great friend, though I haven't hardly talked to him except when I run into him moving cows and I am looking for bucks. His family and mine are fairly close though through lots of relations and activities and great people, and I'd still come running if he needed something.
If he lives near Twisp, I know him. He has even let me help mend fences up in the grazing area for that last couple of years and he was just a guest in my home about a month ago.
Post by: Alchase on October 03, 2008, 01:01:53 PM
We use to camp at the meadow camp above Pearygin Lake every year. We would celebrate Halloween there. There use to be an older gentleman that camped half way between Bear creek and Pearygin Creek. and he would string pumpkin shaped lights up in the trees circling his camp. We still call his old camp site "the pumpkin patch".
The migratory herds (big bucks) would start through the area and it was common to see many hundreds of dear in the meadow at night. We use to sit in the Buckbrush above the meadow and watch the coyotes chase the deer around in the dark. I agree the number are no where near what they use to be, for many reasons. I believe one of the biggest reasons is the disappearance of the buckbrush in that area. The hill above Pearygin buckbrush has all but disappeared. No food they go elsewhere.
Post by: boneaddict on October 03, 2008, 01:05:57 PM
Post by: Oldguy on October 03, 2008, 08:29:15 PM
Post by: BuckHunter23 on October 08, 2008, 10:42:00 PM