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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: bowsandhose on September 25, 2008, 08:57:35 PM
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378 3/8 gross and 364 net P&Y Non-Typical
This season was shaping up like the previous 7 yrs with different states draws coming and going with nothing to show but a shrinking bank account and a pile of unsuccessful letters. Then, the Washington draw my last hope and a word im not use to seeing successful. With that the fun started, buying maps and looking at aerial photos, studying them with a fine tooth comb. Phone calls and emails talking with biologist and locals and driving my family crazy with non stop elk talk. As the season grew closer fear was building in me with high gas prices a wife and two boys and a six hour plus drive had kept me home from scouting. I do have to give Troy A.K.A. Broken Arrow and Charlie A.K.A. Bucklucky a huge thank you, both of you guys gave me leads on some great hunting spots. So thanks again. My plan was to chase white tails in the Okanogan for the first few days of the season. I passed on a spike and a doe on opening morning, and then I did not see another deer out of my stands. So I packed up and headed south on Thursday the 4th. I got in some great scouting, every spot I had picked on a map or was told to check out had bulls bugling, scrapes and rubs it was amazing. My father arrived on Saturday he gave up his hunting season to call for me. Thanks dad. Charlie got in on Sunday so we BS and planed. Finally opening morning and what a day. With out even having to call we had five bulls bugling around us I have never experienced any thing like that during elk hunting. We set up and started cow calling and had two bulls get into a screaming match with a winner decided he moved in but held up in a thicket of spruce at 80 yards with no clear view of him or his head gear. Similar hunts for the next few days still had not laid my eyes on any bone. And then 9-11 (343 never forget) we took a moment to be thankful to be alive and able to enjoy our freedoms. The plan was to hike in 4 miles and hunt all day we saw my fist bone of the trip at sunup a nice 315"+ 6x6 called in to 68 yards he saw me move and walk off. We also saw a big bull and 20+ cows across a very deep and steep canyon but that was about it for the day. On the way out we were leaving a bit early despite my whinnying about it, just then my dad spots a mule deer buck and its on. I get within 10 yards with a steep uphill shot I draw back and let one sail way over his back and the buck bolts. So, I drop down the point and beat feet to were he was heading. I pop out to find him staring at me he bolts again I throw out a baa he stops an looks back 20 yards and that was a fatal mistake for my shot was true and he piled up in about 40 yards. What a great end to a long hard day with a beautiful 3x4 he is now know as the 9-11 buck and I going to do a head mount of him. Back at camp we gave Charlie a razing (despite the fact he had seen more and bigger bulls) and told him we were taking Friday off to take care of my deer, and if he was going to kill a bull that would be a great day to get it done. So on Friday I went to check my messages and to my surprise three messages from Charlie saying he had got the big one but that’s his story. Saturday I passed on a 300" 6x6 at 10 yards broadside Sunday I passed on a rag horn 5. Monday was the full moon and the temp soared no morning bugle no evening bugle Tuesday no morning bugle no evening bugle Wednesday no morning bugle, Wednesday night tried a new spot walking and calling we finally got an answer a nasty old growling bugle way down a dark steep thick hill with day light running short we tighten up our boots and bombed down the hill we called but the bull held up at 100 yards and then moved off but still calling so I stalked in while my father followed slowly, cow calling and small bull bugling. The bull keep moving off and we keep following. Eventually he gave us the slip. On the hike out we joked that the bull was going to the open ridge top to kick are butts just then a recognizable nasty old growling bugle belted out on the ridge above us then cows and the bull popped over and started looking down the hill we were trap on the hillside and I had the bull 20 yards from me for 30 min but all I could see was a tine now and then. The elk seemed to move off and with 10 min of light left I busted up the hill when I popped out I could see 10-15 cows at about 70 yards but no bull. Dad let out a bugle and the bull fired back right in front of me, he walked down the ridge turned and looked down the hill 10 yards from me I drew back aimed and lets just say the rest is a blur the shot felt good and the bull turned and ran hard but he stopped just out of sight and started bugling again so we back out and had a long sleepless night. The next morning on the way back in we heard a recognizable nasty old growling bugle again so I knew I had not killed him, went back to were I had shot an sure enough clean miss. While standing their scratching my head about what had transpired, I saw movement on a ridge a mile away it was a big bull running cows he was running back and forth pushing cows into a dog hair cliff when I put the glass on him we knew it was the same bull. A quick check on the map to confirm the ridge he was on and off we went. Over a hour later we were on the ridge a few cow calls down a steep thick dark hillside and out bellows a recognizable nasty old growling bugle. I slid down the hill a ways and dad kept cow calling and here comes white tips up the hill he lets out a nerve-racking bugle at 25 yards oblivious to danger he stopped at 20 yards from me and I drew pick a spot and aimed and with a whack he turn and bombed down the hill and cashed. We waited a while and then started down the hill only to see antler sticking up out of the brush 50 yards from were I shot. I had done it, I had shot an ancient bull, a herd bull, my dream bull. This old bull (we call him the Monarch) only had one whistler and it was loose and worn even with the gums the other had already fallen out, his other teeth showed heavy wear. But this old dog was still in the game with 15-20 cows in his little hideout. The Monarch bull is a main frame 6x7 with a cheater off the bases of both swords his left sword also has a 3" kicker off it and his main beam has two ring hangers on it also. He unofficially green scores 378 3/8 gross and nets 364" non- typical not that score matters. I love this bulls rack his mass is sweet, the bases of his swords are over 8" and his 8 main beam measurement are 65 4/8 .In all I had a great hunt and met some great people
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:drool:
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Congrats man!!!!! That's a hell of a bull!!! :drool: :drool:
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few more
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awesome write up...looking for some more pics now please!!
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the mass on that is insane! congrats on the HUGE bull!
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Great story and awesome pics! What a bull. Congrats man. Way to "EARN" your bull of a lifetime.
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Awesome bull
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Great bull and great story and pics, hunt and bull of a lifetime for now anyways. I remember the feeling you and bucklucky got to enjoy this year and I still get it when I look at my bull hanging in my entryway! I get to get in on one more blues hunt next week as my buddy has a muzzie tag and charlie is hooking me up with his hot spots. Thanks Charlie and good job bowsandhose. nwhunter
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how many points did you have going in to the draws? 7?
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Nice bull. Thats a bull of a lifetime for sure.
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Awesome story B&H!! mwhite and I were talking on the phone the other night, we both figured it was crowding 400''. Either way, that is a hellava bull, for a good man! Congrats...
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i had 7pts for WA elk.
i think this bull was regressing i bet a few years ago he was over 400" but hard to say
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I love thats things rack. Awesome bull, great pics and write up. :drool:
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That thing is a hawg!!! I love the mass.
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That thing is a hawg!!! I love the mass.
:yeah: Awesome bull congrtas on your sucess.
Sage
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Sent you a PM Travis
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That thing is incredible!!!!!
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few more for the mass lovers like myself
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Awesome storey Travis! I am glad to be a tiny part of your adventure and am glad that you were able to tag out on a MONSTER BULL!
Oh, and tine length is over-rated, mass rules!! ;)
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Awesome bull!
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That is COOOOOL!!! Great job Travis and Travis' dad. Thanks for the story and extra pics.
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Awesome Bull, congrats on a true Monster!
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Amazing story, a true monarch, good job. I have a big bull rifle tag this year, stories like this only fire me up, but also make me more excited and nervous :chuckle: . Congratulations one more time.
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Very nice bull man!! Congrats!
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Great story . Bull of a lifetime :IBCOOL: I hope you have vaulted ceilings :chuckle:
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Congrats!!! man I'm glad you killed him. those horns would be a pain to pack out if I found them next spring.
Great looking bull!! you earned him.
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Great Bull, love the story.
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Nice Work!
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DAMN NICE BULL AND GREAT STORY
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Bowsandhose,
Wonderful story and pics...That's an amazing bull and how incredible to experience it with you Dad calling him in. A bull of a lifetime, that's for sure!
Congrats!!!
Fulla
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That fugger is a toad, great write up and awesome pics. Not easily impressed but ,that bull has the most character and Wow factor of any bull from Washington I have seen this year, except for the 65,000 dollar bull, and DIY makes this one more special in my book. Congrats on a career Bull and the hunt of a lifetime.
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That boy is amazing....jeeeezus!
thats a bull bro!
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Thanks for the screen saver! I'm not getting alot of work done looking at all these toads being killed so far this year. Unreal bull!
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That fugger is a toad, great write up and awesome pics. Not easily impressed but ,that bull has the most character and Wow factor of any bull from Washington I have seen this year, except for the 65,000 dollar bull, and DIY makes this one more special in my book. Congrats on a career Bull and the hunt of a lifetime.
I have to agree 100% Man I'm jelouse ;)
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:yeah:
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bucklucky you shot a freakin monster too man...It's great to see two great bulls harvested by guys on our website
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Awesome Bull!!! Congrats!!!
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thanks everyone for all the positive feedback it means a lot to me
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Hey great story man! This is mike's friend. We helped with the pack a few weeks ago! Glad to hear you took that challenge of finding a bigger one! Congrats again!
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i sure could have used you guys on my pack out :chuckle:
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that thing is a true monster! congrats!
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great bull congrats! got a Questions though, don't know the unit you got him in,but was he packing a muzzy 100 from 4 years ago?
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Congrats on a great buck & bull !!!!
ElkNut1
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Really nice bull. I am guessing that you where in the Dayton unit?
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just got my cape to Charlies Taxidermy :tup: man bucklucky does a sweet job on elk. cant wait to get my bull back and hanging on the wall 8)
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It is going to look great on the wall. I love going back and looking at the pics.
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just got my cape to Charlies Taxidermy :tup: man bucklucky does a sweet job on elk. cant wait to get my bull back and hanging on the wall 8)
I wish you would have brought the horns and left them with me so I could fondle them :drool:
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god damn buddy.,....
thats is a beautiful bull.
i hadnt seen but the first couple pics and now after looking at the rest i just had to write and say GOD DAMN!!!!!
that freakin awesome.....
cant wait to see the mount.
how old ya think this old dawg was.
i hope he passed on some good genes...
im gonna do a lil something for ya with your pics.
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ok here is a little something from me to you. CONGRATS Buddy!
New screen saver and maybe a picture for the mantle under this bull when hes mounted
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Backwoods! That picture is AWESOME!!!!!!!!! Pretty sweet for you to put something together like that for Trav!!!
btw Trav, hows the training going? You got any 'matches' coming up at all???
Michael
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Thanks,
:IBCOOL:
i really enjoying doing stuff like that
i wish it was my job to work with those kinds of pics.
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Backwoods that's cool :tup: got me a new screen saver now.
Thanks Travis
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glad you like it
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Now that one I like BWB ! Thats cool!
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:IBCOOL: :hello:
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got my bull officially scored P&Y.my score was only off 1 1/8" on the gross and dead nuts on the net 8)
offical score is 378 3/8 gross and 364 net
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Very nice :brew: That should be good for about #5 instate I think :IBCOOL:
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Man thats cool. What an awsome bull 8)
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If you don't mind me asking what unit did you take that bull out of? I got drawn for goose prairie and filled my bull tag the last day, not too many elk taken this year!!! congrats....
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Thats awesome man!
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Man, that is the bull of a lifetime there. How many points did it take you to draw? Congrats.
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What a bull!!!!!!!!!!Awesome!!!!!!!!! :o
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That a neat photo collage. Great bull of course.
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Bowsandhoes, could you please tell me what unit you got drawn for so everyone and there brother can put in for it also :chuckle: ;)
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Bowsandhoes, could you please tell me what unit you got drawn for so everyone and there brother can put in for it also :chuckle: ;)
Evryone and their brother are already putting in for that hunt!!! :chuckle:
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Bowsandhoes, could you please tell me what unit you got drawn for so everyone and there brother can put in for it also :chuckle: ;)
Evryone and their brother are already putting in for that hunt!!! :chuckle:
No no, you have it wrong, everyone and there brother, and there brothers brothers out of state Utards brothers brother :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Bowsandhoes, could you please tell me what unit you got drawn for so everyone and there brother can put in for it also :chuckle: ;)
Evryone and their brother are already putting in for that hunt!!! :chuckle:
No no, you have it wrong, everyone and there brother, and there brothers brothers out of state Utards brothers brother :chuckle: :chuckle:
:lol4:
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wait...my out of state brother has never put in for that unit...come on now...not everybody's brother.
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So is that bull scored as a nt or a typ? Awesome bull and looks bigger than the score. Looks like I am safe at #4 for one more year but only by an inch. Some whopper archery bulls hitting the deck in the last two years. Good job. nwhunter
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sorry, my bull is 364 non-typical
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okay I kind of figured. Mine was typical and grossed 379 7/8, can't believe they couldn't stretch another 1/8 cause every time I tell someone my bull was 380 my 9 year old boy looks at me like I just told the biggest lie. Great bull. nwhunter
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What a temendous bull!! You and Bucklucky are straight savages!!! Congrats!
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okay I kind of figured. Mine was typical and grossed 379 7/8, can't believe they couldn't stretch another 1/8 cause every time I tell someone my bull was 380 my 9 year old boy looks at me like I just told the biggest lie. Great bull. nwhunter
my bull has two ring hanger points one of which is over 1" but because of the palmation the base is wider then the point is long so it does not count. but i needed more than 1/8 :chuckle:
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No matter the score thats a once in a lifetime Washington bull, you should be very proud.
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No matter the score thats a once in a lifetime Washington bull, you should be very proud.
and i am ;) the bull was just the icing on the cake, to one of the best hunts of my life, great times in the outdoors with my father. getting to be a small part of charlies success, and meeting some great people. and pushing myself mentally and physically to really see what I'm capable of. now that's what hunting is about
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:yeah: That's the whole dream package! Congratulations and thank you for sharing your hunt with us!!
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now thats a monster :P
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:drool:Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetttttttttttttt Bull! :P
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Trav, that was one helluva bull and no matter how much you try to credit that toward luck imho it all comes down to dedication.... Seriously 20+ days in the field for ANY tag in the state is a fuggin acomplishment, I'm just glad I got to meet u when I did when helping to pack out charlies bull!
I can't imagine the pressure put on you to come up with a bigger bull by all the razzing we gave you that night (all in fun I'm sure you know) and I'm proud as hell to tell you that when me and my buddy travis (who helped pack out charlies bull) found out you shot the bull that you did we were celebrating into the night when most ppl were gone and dead.. our only regret is that we weren't there to help you pack out that monster!!! I guess it was our mistake not giving you our number cause we would've been there in a heartbeat!
I'm just happy that I can say I helped pack out a bull that ranked top ten in the state for archery typical, then to have the guy that helped out as well punch a 380 bull then next week! I'll tell you what... because of you I've been more than admired at a few campfires... :chuckle:
Good luck on your spring bear in that nasty country...
Michael
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I had to come back and look at it again. The picture with the head and cape on the pack frame (you walking away from the camera) and the main beam touching the ground is most impressive. It really shows the mass, width, length and age of that bull.
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Can't believe I missed this thread til now. I have seen other threads mention it, but glad I got the whole story. Super-stud bull bowsnhose. Love the mass! :drool: Congrats!!
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Congrats Again!!! He's a Beauty!!!
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Sweet Bull, I could only dream. Maybe someday. Congrats
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beautiful bull. now i want one even more!! :bash:
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By "one" you mean that tag, right? :chuckle:
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haha yea.. im pretty sure i will have to wait a while for one of those :(
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bowsandhosee thats a hell of a bull. dare i ask where you shot it???
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bowsandhosee thats a hell of a bull. dare i ask where you shot it???
In the lungs.
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:chuckle: :chuckle:
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good one bucklucky :chuckle:
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Where can you find how many points you have? All I know is that I apply for several special permits each year, 5 years and counting, and have not been selected for any of them yet. Sounds like I should have lots of points :dunno:
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That would be 5 points per each animal you have been aplying for , and that is not alot of points, 12 is alot of points ;)
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That would be 5 points per each animal you have been aplying for , and that is not alot of points, 12 is alot of points ;)
I should have said that I was drawn in 2003 for a special deer tag...first special app. I put in for. Nothing for bear, elk or deer since. Can you look up you point total on WDFW website?
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Is this hog going to be in any magazines any time soon?
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Trav, that was one helluva bull and no matter how much you try to credit that toward luck imho it all comes down to dedication.... Seriously 20+ days in the field for ANY tag in the state is a fuggin acomplishment, I'm just glad I got to meet u when I did when helping to pack out charlies bull!
I can't imagine the pressure put on you to come up with a bigger bull by all the razzing we gave you that night (all in fun I'm sure you know) and I'm proud as hell to tell you that when me and my buddy travis (who helped pack out charlies bull) found out you shot the bull that you did we were celebrating into the night when most ppl were gone and dead.. our only regret is that we weren't there to help you pack out that monster!!! I guess it was our mistake not giving you our number cause we would've been there in a heartbeat!
I'm just happy that I can say I helped pack out a bull that ranked top ten in the state for archery typical, then to have the guy that helped out as well punch a 380 bull then next week! I'll tell you what... because of you I've been more than admired at a few campfires... :chuckle:
Good luck on your spring bear in that nasty country...
Michael
thanks Michael
it would have been nice if Charlie, Travis and you were there when i got my bull, it was very quite around camp (might have been due to exhaustion :chuckle: ) cant wait to share a campfire with you guys in the future :fire.:
hope I'm packing out a big bear from that nasty country this spring :tup:
Travis
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Congrats!
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bucklucky and I started work on my bull mount. it took some work to get the neck big enough to fit the cape. had to lower and turn the head to get the rack to clear the wall (what a great problem to have :drool: ) hope to get him mounted in early july. I cant wait to get him on my wall, that is if i can get him in my house :chuckle:
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Here are a couple more pictures ;)
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thanks for posting charlie
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Thats just plain awesome
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What a pig!!!! What was going though your mind before you had the shot :yike: :yike: :yike:
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What a pig!!!! What was going though your mind before you had the shot :yike: :yike: :yike:
"I cant believe I just missed the Monarch at 10 yards " Thats what he was thinking , I guess second chances do happen sometimes ! ;) :chuckle:
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What a pig!!!! What was going though your mind before you had the shot :yike: :yike: :yike:
"I cant believe I just missed the Monarch at 10 yards " Thats what he was thinking , I guess second chances do happen sometimes ! ;) :chuckle:
:yeah: :bash:
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Can't wait to see him when he's done!! :drool:
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hey charlie you should post the picks of our elk racks together :chuckle:
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hey charlie you should post the picks of our elk racks together :chuckle:
No way, thats imbarassing :chuckle: Mine looks like tooth picks compared to yours :chuckle:
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Yeah, really frickin' long toothpicks!
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Yeah, really frickin' long toothpicks!
:chuckle: :chuckle:
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Here is a couple ;)
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couple more
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I LOOOOOOVVVVE MASS!!!!! Cool pics Charlie
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decent raghorns. ;)
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decent raghorns. ;)
:yeah: Awesome bulls 8) 8) 8)
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not bad boys...
RIMROCK has bigger...
:chuckle: :drool: :IBCOOL: :hello:
HA HA HA
just kidding boys...
i envy you both!
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great bulls
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Seeing them both in person is amazing, I haven't seen antlers that big even in a National Park or ever. The pictures don't do them justice
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Those are sweet looking bulls guys! Can't wait to see the mounts!
Charlie, I might be able to get my cat rug to you sometime soon so keep an eye out for a PM or phone call! ;)
Michael
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those are two rediclously huge racks, those are bulls we all dream of.
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Those are some sweet pics charlie thanks for sharing. I sure do like nice racks :chuckle:
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They will both make great mounts Charlie, well done both of you.
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You guys make me sick! :puke: Great bulls guys!
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I am awed now as much as I was last fall, seeing those racks. They are amazing.
Awesome bulls guys. Where do they stack up in the state records?
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Mines #7ish for typical archery, and Travs bull is #3 or 4ish nontypical archery. Well know exactly when the new book comes out this year.
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great pictures. Bucklucky what does your bull score?
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Net is 361 3/8
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nice pics charlie ;)
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Dang those are some sweet bulls! Hope I can find one like either of those.
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those pictures are sick...drooling all over the place.
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Dandy bulls guys. Again, great job to the both of you.