Post by: oneshotkill on September 27, 2008, 10:04:37 PM
Post by: archery288 on September 27, 2008, 10:09:49 PM
Post by: PolarBear on September 27, 2008, 10:13:07 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on September 28, 2008, 06:48:24 AM
I have shot 3 blade Thunderheads for years but my new Slick Trick 4 blade broadheads fly exactly like my field points!!!! I love them! Now I have to shove one through an elk during late season to see what kind of damage they will do.
Almost an identical to what I would post.
My father killed alot of critters with Thunderheads and they also shoot well out of my bow with aluminums. But I am shooting the mag Slick Tricks with Full Metal Jackets and I love them. They do not shoot exactly as my field points, but that is probably a bow tuning issue.
Just a note. Those Full Metal Jackets can snap like a twig. Saw it last weekend.
Post by: EastWaViking on September 28, 2008, 07:27:38 AM
Muxxy blades.
Post by: bow4elk on September 28, 2008, 08:32:25 AM
I'll let you chime in for a response before I offer my advice.
Generally speaking modern broadhead design and performance (quality) has improved dramatically over recent years. With MIM technology (metal injection molding), you have new offerings in one-piece designs. These (G5's line) are very durable, resharpenable, and a bit pricey. One example of "you get what you pay for".
However, that doesn't mean you have to spend a ton of money for a quality broadhead. Muzzy, NAP, Rocky Mountain, Magnus, Zwickey and others have been leaders in dependability for thousands upon thousands of bowhunters. Some of the more recent manufacturers, such as Wac 'em, Tight Point, Slick Trick, Steel Force, Rocket, etc. are gaining a lot of popularity as well.
Penetration is a much-debated topic related to broadhead selection. Broadhead penetration tests have concluded that a "cut to the tip" design is optimal, but that is not an absolute. Chisel tip designs perform very well, and at the end of the day shot placement is much more important than broadhead design (assuming you have chosen a reputable brand and the blades are razor sharp). All things being equal, a three blade head might penetrate furthest, but a four blade will cut a higher percentage of tissue simply because it has 25% more cutting surface.
Bottom line, there are lots of variables. It would help to know what your are trying to achieve with the switch.
Post by: archery288 on September 28, 2008, 08:35:42 AM
Post by: bucklucky on September 28, 2008, 08:39:14 AM
Post by: archery288 on September 28, 2008, 08:46:07 AM
Post by: bucklucky on September 28, 2008, 08:49:01 AM
Post by: billythekidrock on September 28, 2008, 08:51:41 AM
Charlie - I will give you some 3 blade Montec's to try. I think you'll be suprised! We will get your new bow tuned and set up to a T and those things will fly like darts!
Charlie got a new bow? Hmm. :rolleyes:
EDIT:
I just read that you posted about your bow "incident". Thought that was going to be kept on the down low.. :chuckle:
Post by: archery288 on September 28, 2008, 08:56:41 AM
Charlie - I will give you some 3 blade Montec's to try. I think you'll be suprised! We will get your new bow tuned and set up to a T and those things will fly like darts!
Charlie got a new bow? Hmm. :rolleyes:
EDIT:
I just read that you posted about your bow "incident". Thought that was going to be kept on the down low.. :chuckle:
Yeah I'd be embarassed too... :chuckle: Ahh, *censored* happens Charlie - all I can say is it's a good thing it happened after the fact! If you want to shoot the new Bowtech Captain Ted has it in stock Charlie.
Post by: bow4elk on September 28, 2008, 09:09:09 AM
Many of the smaller heads fly better because they have less material to cause wind planing. I know they are illegal in WA but for argument's sake, I field tested the NAP Spitfire two-blade expandables in '95 and took two caribou bulls with flawless results. I was leary to hunt with them because I've always been a fixed-blade proponent. I was very impressed with two bulls on the ground quickly with those two little blades.
Charlie - don't worry about Muzzy's chisel tip. Fred Eichler has completed the SuperSlam with them out of his modest weight recurve. Remember - it's about about shot placement in the end, and Muzzy is known for busting bones when those perfect shots turn out not so perfect.
Steel Force are great heads. The new Snuffers are good to. They used to have weld breakage issues.
It's nice when broadheads and FPs have the same point of impact, but not required. It's all about arrow flight independently.
Post by: bucklucky on September 28, 2008, 09:15:35 AM
Hey Willy, I really dont mind the idea that I ran my bow over, It was way worth it! It happened for a reason...........thats how I look at it ;) Its funny anyway :chuckle:
Post by: bucklucky on September 28, 2008, 09:21:51 AM
Post by: bow4elk on September 28, 2008, 09:23:04 AM
Post by: billythekidrock on September 28, 2008, 09:26:30 AM
Great info guys!
Hey Willy, I really dont mind the idea that I ran my bow over, It was way worth it! It happened for a reason...........thats how I look at it ;) Its funny anyway :chuckle:
Yea, what a way to retire a bow after killing a monster bull. Extra style points for sure.
Post by: bucklucky on September 28, 2008, 09:28:19 AM
I guess I didnt post about running over my bow, I never wrote a little story either :bash: I better get on the ball.
Post by: oneshotkill on September 28, 2008, 04:42:43 PM
This is a topic than can elicit a mountain of opinions and recommendations. When I used to coach a lot, people would ask open-ended questions about gear, etc. I would always respond with the same question: What's the problem you're trying to fix, or more directly, what are you trying to achieve?
I'll let you chime in for a response before I offer my advice.
Generally speaking modern broadhead design and performance (quality) has improved dramatically over recent years. With MIM technology (metal injection molding), you have new offerings in one-piece designs. These (G5's line) are very durable, resharpenable, and a bit pricey. One example of "you get what you pay for".
However, that doesn't mean you have to spend a ton of money for a quality broadhead. Muzzy, NAP, Rocky Mountain, Magnus, Zwickey and others have been leaders in dependability for thousands upon thousands of bowhunters. Some of the more recent manufacturers, such as Wac 'em, Tight Point, Slick Trick, Steel Force, Rocket, etc. are gaining a lot of popularity as well.
Penetration is a much-debated topic related to broadhead selection. Broadhead penetration tests have concluded that a "cut to the tip" design is optimal, but that is not an absolute. Chisel tip designs perform very well, and at the end of the day shot placement is much more important than broadhead design (assuming you have chosen a reputable brand and the blades are razor sharp). All things being equal, a three blade head might penetrate furthest, but a four blade will cut a higher percentage of tissue simply because it has 25% more cutting surface.
Bottom line, there are lots of variables. It would help to know what your are trying to achieve with the switch.
To clear things up. I was happy with the penetration and accuracy of my muzzy 3 blades but the blood trail was not as good as I would have liked so that is why I am considering the 4 blade.
Post by: TeacherMan on September 28, 2008, 05:02:56 PM
Post by: M_ray on September 28, 2008, 05:12:00 PM
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Yea, what a way to retire a bow after killing a monster bull. Extra style points for sure.I'd give BL a 6 on style points!
Post by: JoeVon on September 28, 2008, 07:06:25 PM
Dont go with Muzzys.... :'( The Montec by G5 Outdoors - now that's a broadhead! Kinda spendy, but they will fly like a field tip (at least they do for me) and they are strong as can be and sharp!
I swear I saw a picture of you and the bull you killed last year while l while I was looking at broadheads in the 2008 Muzzy Catalog. Was that you?
Ah...here it is.http://www.muzzymoments.com/large%20pages/Jon%20Gabrio.htm
Post by: archery288 on September 28, 2008, 07:10:54 PM
Post by: JoeVon on September 28, 2008, 07:13:22 PM
Post by: archery288 on September 28, 2008, 07:18:57 PM
I thought it was kinda funny.
I didn't realize it made there catalog to man?! :dunno: :chuckle: Good catch! To late now to fix that as I am sure it's all over the damn place!!! :bash: :chuckle:
Post by: JoeVon on September 28, 2008, 07:30:19 PM
Post by: archery288 on September 28, 2008, 07:35:35 PM
I hope you don't have a "Broadhead Sponsor" that might get pissed if they see it...
:'( :bash: :chuckle:
Post by: 257 Wby Mag on September 28, 2008, 07:38:21 PM
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Post by: vanhornhunter on September 28, 2008, 11:17:38 PM