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3 blade or 4 blade?
« on: September 27, 2008, 10:04:37 PM »
I am going to get some new broadheads and I am probably going to get 100 grain muzzy because it is what I have used in the past bet I was wondering, should I go with the 3 blades, or the four blades?

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Re: 3 blade or 4 blade?
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2008, 10:09:49 PM »
Dont go with Muzzys....  :'(  The Montec by G5 Outdoors - now that's a broadhead!  Kinda spendy, but they will fly like a field tip (at least they do for me) and they are strong as can be and sharp! 

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Re: 3 blade or 4 blade?
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2008, 10:13:07 PM »
I have shot 3 blade Thunderheads for years but my new Slick Trick 4 blade broadheads fly exactly like my field points!!!! I love them!  Now I have to shove one through an elk during late season to see what kind of damage they will do.

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Re: 3 blade or 4 blade?
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2008, 06:48:24 AM »
I have shot 3 blade Thunderheads for years but my new Slick Trick 4 blade broadheads fly exactly like my field points!!!! I love them!  Now I have to shove one through an elk during late season to see what kind of damage they will do.

Almost an identical to what I would post.
My father killed alot of critters with Thunderheads and they also shoot well out of my bow with aluminums. But I am shooting the mag Slick Tricks with Full Metal Jackets and I love them. They do not shoot exactly as my field points, but that is probably a bow tuning issue.

Just a note. Those Full Metal Jackets can snap like a twig. Saw it last weekend.




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Re: 3 blade or 4 blade?
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2008, 07:27:38 AM »
Muzzy MX3 100 grain 3 blades.  They fly perfect, and are thicker and 1/8" wider cut than standard
Muxxy blades.

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Re: 3 blade or 4 blade?
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2008, 08:32:25 AM »
This is a topic than can elicit a mountain of opinions and recommendations.  When I used to coach a lot, people would ask open-ended questions about gear, etc.  I would always respond with the same question: What's the problem you're trying to fix, or more directly, what are you trying to achieve?

I'll let  you chime in for a response before I offer my advice.

Generally speaking modern broadhead design and performance (quality) has improved dramatically over recent years.  With MIM technology (metal injection molding), you have new offerings in one-piece designs.   These (G5's line) are very durable, resharpenable, and a bit pricey.  One example of "you get what you pay for".

However, that doesn't mean you have to spend a ton of money for a quality broadhead.  Muzzy, NAP, Rocky Mountain, Magnus, Zwickey and others have been leaders in dependability for thousands upon thousands of bowhunters.  Some of the more recent manufacturers, such as Wac 'em, Tight Point, Slick Trick, Steel Force, Rocket, etc. are gaining a lot of popularity as well.

Penetration is a much-debated topic related to broadhead selection.  Broadhead penetration tests have concluded that a "cut to the tip" design is optimal, but that is not an absolute.  Chisel tip designs perform very well, and at the end of the day shot placement is much more important than broadhead design (assuming you have chosen a reputable brand and the blades are razor sharp).  All things being equal, a three blade head might penetrate furthest, but a four blade will cut a higher percentage of tissue simply because it has 25% more cutting surface.

Bottom line, there are lots of variables.  It would help to know what your are trying to achieve with the switch.
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Re: 3 blade or 4 blade?
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2008, 08:35:42 AM »
Tom that was very well put!  Nice work man!

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Re: 3 blade or 4 blade?
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2008, 08:39:14 AM »
I have been thinking about changing my broadheads but havent wanted to spend the money, now I HAVE too since I ran my bow over and the arrows and broadheads also. What about the tips . The big bullet tips on the muzzys scare me. I have heard some stories of them bouncing off the ribs. I was wanting to go with a cut on impact because of this. I was actually looking at the steel force, I have to have a 4 blade broadhead. I went to 4 blade when I couldnt get my 3 blades to fly and havent had a problem since.

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Re: 3 blade or 4 blade?
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2008, 08:46:07 AM »
Charlie - I will give you some 3 blade Montec's to try.  I think you'll be suprised!  We will get your new bow tuned and set up to a T and those things will fly like darts!

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Re: 3 blade or 4 blade?
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2008, 08:49:01 AM »
Sounds good to me Jon! I'm ready for a change  :chuckle:.

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Re: 3 blade or 4 blade?
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2008, 08:51:41 AM »
Charlie - I will give you some 3 blade Montec's to try.  I think you'll be suprised!  We will get your new bow tuned and set up to a T and those things will fly like darts!

Charlie got a new bow?   Hmm. :rolleyes:

EDIT:
I just read that you posted about your bow "incident". Thought that was going to be kept on the down low.. :chuckle:




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Re: 3 blade or 4 blade?
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2008, 08:56:41 AM »
Charlie - I will give you some 3 blade Montec's to try.  I think you'll be suprised!  We will get your new bow tuned and set up to a T and those things will fly like darts!

Charlie got a new bow?   Hmm. :rolleyes:

EDIT:
I just read that you posted about your bow "incident". Thought that was going to be kept on the down low.. :chuckle:

Yeah I'd be embarassed too...  :chuckle:  Ahh, *censored* happens Charlie - all I can say is it's a good thing it happened after the fact!  If you want to shoot the new Bowtech Captain Ted has it in stock Charlie.

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Re: 3 blade or 4 blade?
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2008, 09:09:09 AM »
Don't overlook the NAP HellRazor to compare tot he G5 Montec.  They use Photon bonding of blades, which for all intent and purpose is as strong as MIM process.  Andy Simo (founder/president of NAP) was an engineer at Boeing way back when.  After hunting with him and some engineers in Alberta, it was clear that he's insanely anal about flight characteristics, manufacturing, and quality.  He purchased a blade stropping equipment that was something like $100K +, that put an edge ~10x sharper than a surgical scalpel.  He used to run images in his ads.  I know I've shot up a 3D deer in weeks and the blades are crazy sharp after all that punishment.  I'm also a big fan of .027" to .030" thick blades.

Many of the smaller heads fly better because they have less material to cause wind planing.  I know they are illegal in WA but for argument's sake, I field tested the NAP Spitfire two-blade expandables in '95 and took two caribou bulls with flawless results.  I was leary to hunt with them because I've always been a fixed-blade proponent.  I was very impressed with two bulls on the ground quickly with those two little blades.

Charlie - don't worry about Muzzy's chisel tip.  Fred Eichler has completed the SuperSlam with them out of his modest weight recurve.  Remember - it's about about shot placement in the end, and Muzzy is known for busting bones when those perfect shots turn out not so perfect.

Steel Force are great heads.  The new Snuffers are good to.  They used to have weld breakage issues.

It's nice when broadheads and FPs have the same point of impact, but not required.  It's all about arrow flight independently.

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Re: 3 blade or 4 blade?
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2008, 09:15:35 AM »
Great info guys!

Hey Willy, I really dont mind the idea that I ran my bow over, It was way worth it! It happened for a reason...........thats how I look at it ;) Its funny anyway  :chuckle:

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Re: 3 blade or 4 blade?
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Yeah, its under one of my 370 bull topics, I think the one with the 370 bull pics.

 


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