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Big Game Hunting => Bear Hunting => Topic started by: h20hunter on March 04, 2013, 04:03:58 PM
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Been chatting via PM with a member and he seems to think that the biggest bears are north end western wa bears. I've only downed one and seen a few since beginning hunting so I'm not the best judge. So, where in the state are the biggest?
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NW WA...essentially where you live N. :chuckle:
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Coastal Bears :dunno:
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I know where one of the smallest bears lived.... :chuckle: Now he will live in my house as a full body mounty. :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
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Coastal Bears :dunno:
Thats what I would think too but ive never seen any whoppers (at least on this site) come out of any of the coastal units.
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The goldendale area I think has some of the biggest bears in the state. My grandpa ran hounds all over the whole state since the sixties. A lot of his biggest bears killed were down there. Lots of good food and pretty mild winters.
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wasnt there a 500 pounder shot in the methow this last season? :chuckle: just trying to stir the pot a bit
honestly id would assume the coastal areas but we all know what the first and last words in assume are. i would thing that the SW part of the state would produce some bigguns as well but ive also helped drag a couple brutes out of the NCW area as well as helped and personally packed out a few backpack bears in NCW too, i have a backpack bear hanging on my wall haha
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Depends on who's judging the size of them. I've seen so many 300 lb bears that wouldn't have weighed even close to 200... That said I've seen some really nice bears on Dales hunting thread, and have personally seen a bear killed in the copalis that was an honest 7ft bear.
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http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2015482252_grizzly02m.html (http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2015482252_grizzly02m.html)
Grizzly are pretty big
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Theres some big bears right near you. Look around granite and darrington. Seem like i see as many bears as deer in those areas.
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There was a really big one killed in Kitsap a few years ago. I know of some other big ones from Kitsap and the Olympic Pen that are big too.
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The goldendale area I think has some of the biggest bears in the state. My grandpa ran hounds all over the whole state since the sixties. A lot of his biggest bears killed were down there. Lots of good food and pretty mild winters.
Just might be due to the acorn corps there, lots of scrub oaks in them thar hills.
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Do I really need to tell you where the biggest bears in the state are? Dont make me post it I'll get banned for sure.
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Do I really need to tell you where the biggest bears in the state are? Dont make me post it I'll get banned for sure.
Double dog dare ya! :yike:
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CPost
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CPost
There it is!!!
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:mor: :stup: :ban:
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sw bears
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Just kidding guys.
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What's this bear all steamed up about?
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CPost
Cpost all kinds of big game there I hear! :hello:
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What's this bear all steamed up about?
white flash in his face.
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What's this bear all steamed up about?
white flash in his face.
His ears are all pinned back. He didn't like that flash!
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http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2015482252_grizzly02m.html (http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2015482252_grizzly02m.html)
Grizzly are pretty big
http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7991996&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30 (http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7991996&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30)
Not trying to jack your thread H20,
But check out the 11th or 12th post on the link above. Sure looks like it could be the same "Griz" to me.
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Wow...what a bear.
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What's this bear all steamed up about?
white flash in his face.
His ears are all pinned back. He didn't like that flash!
He ate my apples for two months and had a 53/4 inch front foot.He is not huge but a keeper.
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Just kidding guys.
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
I was gonna say Northwest Trek. They got a couple fatties in there.
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I say you can't really narrow it down to a certain spot in this state. There are big bears in each area as well as tons of dinks. As the saying goes they are where you find them. My dad got this one in North central Washington. I apologize for the bad pics but they are scans of pictures that are printed on normal printing paper, but you get the idea. I won't say what we figured it weighed because it's really not that important but we had to retired butchers with us so it was probably pretty close. For reference the guy laying down next to the bear is well over 300 pounds.
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http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2015482252_grizzly02m.html (http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2015482252_grizzly02m.html)
Grizzly are pretty big
http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7991996&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30 (http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7991996&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30)
Not trying to jack your thread H20,
But check out the 11th or 12th post on the link above. Sure looks like it could be the same "Griz" to me.
Yes he is black in color, but OMG LOOK AT THE HUMP ON BACK OF IT! :yike:
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http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2015482252_grizzly02m.html (http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2015482252_grizzly02m.html)
Grizzly are pretty big
http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7991996&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30 (http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7991996&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30)
Not trying to jack your thread H20,
But check out the 11th or 12th post on the link above. Sure looks like it could be the same "Griz" to me.
Yes he is black in color, but OMG LOOK AT THE HUMP ON BACK OF IT! :yike:
The head and face is classic black bear. I think the "hump" is due to the extreme belly sag. Good Lord that is a big bear.
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Yep, the biggest bears are in Goldendale. They sit on a stool in the Town Tavern next to all of the squatch's you guys are looking for. It can get real ugly in there from time to time. Oh what the hay. WDFW says all the deer are here, so the bears might as well be here too. I do see what appear to be cougar killed deer on Observatory hill while out for evening walks. Maybe it's bear kills.
Oops, got off topic there for a minute. Sorry for the rant. There are some bear here in the Simcoes north of town. You will have to work for them though. I have seen several in one particular area. I wouldn't change my plans to come here looking for a trophy though. I saw some real good bear sign and tracks in the Manson unit this past fall.
But my favorite place was the Selkirk unit. That has been a few years though. Lots of big sign- tracks, markings, etc. It also was the spookiest place I have hunted to date. Lots of background noise that made the hair stand up on the back of my neck since I was in the grizzly rehab area.
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the state record was taken in Spokane county..21 12/16 400lb bear est
my dad took 18 consecutive bears with 18 4/8 to 20' skulls in NE WA
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The Olympic game farm has some dandies.
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Some hogs up in the closed area of the rez, I've seen some nice ones, monster tracks too
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Really large Black Bears are where you find them all across the state. I shot a bear thats scored just over 20.5" in the Skokomish valley in the 70's. The largest bears I have seen have been in Pend Oreille county. There are places there where I know some are never hunted with any regularity now that hounds not available. The gypsy peaks and Salmo river have some very large bears, also grizzlies. Low hunting pressure, long life and food grows a big bear.
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I would say it depends on your definition of "Biggest". Are you talking body size (weight) or skull size?
I would have asked you sooner, but I got tired of waiting for the H-W pages to load :bash: And my patience isn't what it used to be.
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Since i am a meat hunter i would say overall body size. Big fat hogs of bears. Agreed on a few points...all over the state where pressure is less and forage is abundant there will be big bears. Big in body should also relate to big skulls.
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Just like deer and elk bears only get big by getting old and that means places that don't get hunted much will usually have an older age class of animal. If I had to pick one spot in the whole state of washington to go find a monster bear it would hands down be the yakama rez. The Yakamas don't really hunt them much, spiritual thing I believe, I'm sure someone can correct me on that if I am wrong. When I was delivering to White Swan I knew a few guys down there that did hunt them and good lord they killed some giants! They invited me several times but I was never sure on the legality of it all so I passed.
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Since i am a meat hunter i would say overall body size. Big fat hogs of bears. Agreed on a few points...all over the state where pressure is less and forage is abundant there will be big bears. Big in body should also relate to big skulls.
In Washington state big bodies don't neccessarily relate to big skulls. It's an oddity I don't quite understand as Vancouver Island has big skulls and Oregon has big skulls, but Washington rarely does. The record books reflect this. In Oregon you shoot a 325# bear and you'll probably make P&Y. In Washington we've taken boars as large as 450# that don't make P&Y minimums.
Want big bodies...I'd go late Sept early October on high west slope of the Cascades. Green River Watershed and north. There are pockets of good skulls in there, but not very wide spread. Also Early September far enough on the coast you can smell the salt.
Want big skulls...I would probably not be hunting west of the pacific crest. Unless I was going to the mid coast south. Again I want to be close enough to the coast to smell the salt. The coastal bears are not what they used to be. Few eat fish anymore and government hunters took out a lot of the good gene pool late 60's into the early seventies. But there are still larger pockets of big ones to be found than on the high west slope Cascades. They are just A LOT harder to hunt now that you can not use bait.
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Selkirk grizz recovery zone !
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Radsav....very interesting...thanks for posting up.
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Radsav....very interesting...thanks for posting up.
H2o is the biggest bear I know... That means Lake Stevens would be the place to go.
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Since i am a meat hunter i would say overall body size. Big fat hogs of bears. Agreed on a few points...all over the state where pressure is less and forage is abundant there will be big bears. Big in body should also relate to big skulls.
In Washington state big bodies don't neccessarily relate to big skulls. It's an oddity I don't quite understand as Vancouver Island has big skulls and Oregon has big skulls, but Washington rarely does. The record books reflect this. In Oregon you shoot a 325# bear and you'll probably make P&Y. In Washington we've taken boars as large as 450# that don't make P&Y minimums.
Want big bodies...I'd go late Sept early October on high west slope of the Cascades. Green River Watershed and north. There are pockets of good skulls in there, but not very wide spread. Also Early September far enough on the coast you can smell the salt.
Want big skulls...I would probably not be hunting west of the pacific crest. Unless I was going to the mid coast south. Again I want to be close enough to the coast to smell the salt. The coastal bears are not what they used to be. Few eat fish anymore and government hunters took out a lot of the good gene pool late 60's into the early seventies. But there are still larger pockets of big ones to be found than on the high west slope Cascades. They are just A LOT harder to hunt now that you can not use bait.
I just want to eat something I killed/butchered myself. Mmm
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http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=5425.0 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=5425.0)
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47.66834°N 122.34984°W
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47.66834°N 122.34984°W
700 n 50th st?
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Hahhaha thats the zoo, runamuk u crazy, I was like wtf why do I see giraffe's on the map....
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47.66834°N 122.34984°W
Got me! :bash:
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47.66834°N 122.34984°W
Got me! :bash:
lol Woodland park zoo.
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:chuckle:
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your close run but actually there between 80Th and 145Th on Aurora ave.
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estimates the bear was 570 pounds
http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2008/nov/01/kitsap-hunter-bags-a-bear-of-a-story/#axzz2MjMkHw5S (http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2008/nov/01/kitsap-hunter-bags-a-bear-of-a-story/#axzz2MjMkHw5S)
Lots of bears on here.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=77291.0 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=77291.0)
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47.66834°N 122.34984°W
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The last time I was at Woodland Park Zoo, they did not have any Blackbears.
I don't know where the largest bears are in this state. I've seen many good ones taken from the area between Monroe and Icicle creek area. (yeah, that's a lot of territory) I've seen some really good ones taken from NE Wa, and a few bruisers from the lower penninsula/kitsap area and over on the coast. The largest ones I've seen in country have been in the higher cascades to the north. But hey.. That's where I've spent most of my time. I'll add that there are many bears in the high country. But a true bruiser is tough to find anywhere.
-Steve
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These are from central cascades. I'm 5' 10" and can walk under that fallen tree with plenty of room to spare.
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Them are mashers!
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I think that your biggest bodied bears are going to found in places with the combination of the least amount of hunting pressure and best variety of food throughout the year. There is one spot I know of up in the hills of the Olympics that no one ever really hunts for bear because its all old growth timber with no clearcuts of any kind and two years ago when I went up there scouting for elk season I ended up bumping the largest bear I have ever seen in my 20 years of hunting!
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I disagree..there isnt a 325+lb bear we have taken in NE WA that has had a skull under 18"..Id estimate 30+ bears.... these are boars..a sow is another story.
I disagree on weight..they are not like ungulates, maybe the antler side of it tho...Some whitetails in the prime of their life maybe a 4x4 135" buck and another could be 200" all genetics..same with bears I have seen 15yr+ old bears that were 200-250lbs its genetics some will never get to 300lbs ever
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same with bears I have seen 15yr+ old bears that were 200-250lbs its genetics some will never get to 300lbs ever
I agree with this. My partner and I got a nice dry cinnamon sow that weighed around 125 pounds last spring. We were amateur bear hunters and had no idea how to judge body size and really couldnt care less. We got so much crap from people that we shot a baby (just jokin around really) We took the bear to have the hide stamped and the biologist tooth aged her at 8 years old. People never believed us. Cant really blame them but its hard to argue with a veteran bear biologist :dunno:
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yes but you can have the greatest genetics in the world but if nothing lives past 2yrs old they will never reach full potential. Gotta have age!
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My moms friend shot the one from kitsap. good lord that was a giant bear, i mean the guy himself is 6 7.
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I never have really been into bear hunting. But I have seen some monsters either killed or on the paw that were over 400 lbs here in Pend Oreille county. I only killed one bear it was a once in a lifetime bear. it was very old 19 years old weighted 280 lbs but is squared out at 6' 10" and had a 19 7/8 inch skull. My cousin shot one that was 4 15 lbs and squared out right at 7'.
I had a friend that had a bear on trail cam near elk that was pushing 600 lbs looked like the bears they hand feed at that tourist trap over by West Glacier in Montana .
here is a picture of the bear I shot. Only one I have ever killed only time I hunted them killed it first day out. It was full of works all over the muscle and hide he was so old he had almost no teeth left they were all rotten.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi9.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa88%2Fbowhunter_4_life%2F0118081031.jpg&hash=67be244607068cde3507a68d225985e86ba9b45b)
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thats a cool mount
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I actually had to sell him a few years ago I lost my job and had a baby on the way. Although I did sell him to a guy in California and I did learn from the wild justice show that it is a felony to buy any thing from a bear rug skull mount. So I am thinking I may need to call the guy up and see if I might be able to talk him into selling back to me or I will be contacting the game department :chuckle: What you think should I try that or do you think he will tell me to go pound sand?
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I actually had to sell him a few years ago I lost my job and had a baby on the way. Although I did sell him to a guy in California and I did learn from the wild justice show that it is a felony to buy any thing from a bear rug skull mount. So I am thinking I may need to call the guy up and see if I might be able to talk him into selling back to me or I will be contacting the game department :chuckle: What you think should I try that or do you think he will tell me to go pound sand?
Illegal to sell bear mount? I don't think so.
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Northeast has the biggest bears. :tup:
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Northeast has the biggest bears. :tup:
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah: :bdid: :stirthepot:
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Yakima county don't see very many but the ones you do see are hogs only seen 3 bears come out of there and all are in the record books
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Skull wise Grey Harbor, Chelan, Okanogan, King, Pierce, Spokane
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In California it is its a felony. Didn't know it at the time.
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Seen one on the rez (Colville) that I'd stack up against any WA blackie
man o man - I thought I knew what a big bear was till I seen this ol boy waddling thru the timber :yike:
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Giant spring boar black bear (red color phase) Mt. Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest - Spring 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0OucM3BoH8#ws)
Nooksack River Drainage Black Bear #2 (brown color phase) - 6/29/10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE833ivKwZ0#)
Nooksack River Drainage Black Bear (coming out of brush) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU68O0CIx0M#)
Nooksack River Drainage Black Bear (feeding on grass) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENDME77F7NY#)