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Title: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: h20hunter on March 04, 2013, 04:03:58 PM
Been chatting via PM with a member and he seems to think that the biggest bears are north end western wa bears. I've only downed one and seen a few since beginning hunting so I'm not the best judge. So, where in the state are the biggest?
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Special T on March 04, 2013, 04:06:00 PM
NW WA...essentially where you live N. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Austrian Hunter on March 04, 2013, 04:06:41 PM
Coastal Bears  :dunno:
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: jrebel on March 04, 2013, 04:14:20 PM
I know where one of the smallest bears lived.... :chuckle:  Now he will live in my house as a full body mounty.   :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: deerslyr on March 04, 2013, 04:15:58 PM
Coastal Bears  :dunno:

Thats what I would think too but ive never seen any whoppers (at least on this site) come out of any of the coastal units.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Limhangerslayer on March 04, 2013, 04:41:28 PM
The goldendale area I think has some of the biggest bears in the state.  My grandpa ran hounds all over the whole state since the sixties.  A lot of his biggest bears killed were down there.  Lots of good food  and pretty mild winters.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: uplandhunter870 on March 04, 2013, 04:48:24 PM
wasnt there a 500 pounder shot in the methow this last season?  :chuckle: just trying to stir the pot a bit

honestly id would assume the coastal areas but we all know what the first and last words in assume are. i would thing that the SW part of the state would produce some bigguns as well but ive also helped drag a couple brutes out of the NCW area as well as helped and personally packed out a few backpack bears in NCW too, i have a backpack bear hanging on my wall haha
Title: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: sirmissalot on March 04, 2013, 04:50:47 PM
Depends on who's judging the size of them. I've seen so many 300 lb bears that wouldn't have weighed even close to 200... That said I've seen some really nice bears on Dales hunting thread, and have personally seen a bear killed in the copalis that was an honest 7ft bear.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Knocker of rocks on March 04, 2013, 04:52:26 PM
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2015482252_grizzly02m.html (http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2015482252_grizzly02m.html)

Grizzly are pretty big
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: elk247 on March 04, 2013, 06:25:25 PM
Theres some big bears right near you. Look around granite and darrington. Seem like i see as many bears as deer in those areas.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: snowpack on March 04, 2013, 06:33:53 PM
There was a really big one killed in Kitsap a few years ago.  I know of some other big ones from Kitsap and the Olympic Pen that are big too.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on March 04, 2013, 06:45:00 PM
The goldendale area I think has some of the biggest bears in the state.  My grandpa ran hounds all over the whole state since the sixties.  A lot of his biggest bears killed were down there.  Lots of good food  and pretty mild winters.

Just might be due to the acorn corps there, lots of scrub oaks in them thar hills.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: D-Rock425 on March 04, 2013, 06:50:29 PM
Do I really need to tell you where the biggest bears in the state are?  Dont make me post it I'll get banned for sure.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on March 04, 2013, 06:51:36 PM
Do I really need to tell you where the biggest bears in the state are?  Dont make me post it I'll get banned for sure.

Double dog dare ya!  :yike:
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: h20hunter on March 04, 2013, 06:52:07 PM
CPost
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Goldeneye on March 04, 2013, 06:52:41 PM
CPost


There it is!!!
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: D-Rock425 on March 04, 2013, 06:54:52 PM
 :mor: :stup: :ban:
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: bare.hunter on March 04, 2013, 06:55:48 PM
sw bears
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: D-Rock425 on March 04, 2013, 06:57:36 PM
Just kidding guys.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on March 04, 2013, 06:57:48 PM
What's this bear all steamed up about?
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on March 04, 2013, 06:59:13 PM
CPost

Cpost  all kinds of big game there I hear!  :hello:
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: bare.hunter on March 04, 2013, 07:00:19 PM
What's this bear all steamed up about?
white  flash in his face.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Goldeneye on March 04, 2013, 07:01:42 PM
What's this bear all steamed up about?
white  flash in his face.

His ears are all pinned back.  He didn't like that flash!
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: SWHUNTER on March 04, 2013, 07:01:56 PM
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2015482252_grizzly02m.html (http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2015482252_grizzly02m.html)

Grizzly are pretty big
http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7991996&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30 (http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7991996&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30)

Not trying to jack your thread H20,
But check out the 11th or 12th post on the link above. Sure looks like it could be the same "Griz" to me.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: h20hunter on March 04, 2013, 07:04:43 PM
Wow...what a bear.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: bare.hunter on March 04, 2013, 07:05:24 PM
What's this bear all steamed up about?
white  flash in his face.

His ears are all pinned back.  He didn't like that flash!
He ate my apples for two months and had a 53/4 inch front foot.He is not huge but a keeper.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Dan-o on March 04, 2013, 07:14:14 PM
Just kidding guys.

 :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:

I was gonna say Northwest Trek.   They got a couple fatties in there.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: grundy53 on March 04, 2013, 07:16:36 PM
I say you can't really narrow it down to a certain spot in this state. There are big bears in each area as well as tons of dinks. As the saying goes they are where you find them. My dad got this one in North central Washington. I apologize for the bad pics but they are scans of pictures that are printed on normal printing paper, but you get the idea. I won't say what we figured it weighed because it's really not that important but we had to retired butchers with us so it was probably pretty close. For reference the guy laying down next to the bear is well over 300 pounds.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on March 04, 2013, 07:19:20 PM
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2015482252_grizzly02m.html (http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2015482252_grizzly02m.html)

Grizzly are pretty big
http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7991996&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30 (http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7991996&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30)

Not trying to jack your thread H20,
But check out the 11th or 12th post on the link above. Sure looks like it could be the same "Griz" to me.

Yes he is black in color, but OMG LOOK AT THE HUMP ON BACK OF IT!  :yike:
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: JLS on March 04, 2013, 07:39:56 PM
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2015482252_grizzly02m.html (http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2015482252_grizzly02m.html)

Grizzly are pretty big
http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7991996&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30 (http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7991996&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30)

Not trying to jack your thread H20,
But check out the 11th or 12th post on the link above. Sure looks like it could be the same "Griz" to me.

Yes he is black in color, but OMG LOOK AT THE HUMP ON BACK OF IT!  :yike:

The head and face is classic black bear.  I think the "hump" is due to the extreme belly sag.   Good Lord that is a big bear.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Simcoe hunter on March 04, 2013, 07:54:40 PM
Yep, the biggest bears are in Goldendale.  They sit on a stool in the Town Tavern next to all of the squatch's you guys are looking for.  It can get real ugly in there from time to time.  Oh what the hay.  WDFW says all the deer are here, so the bears might as well be here too.  I do see what appear to be cougar killed deer on Observatory hill while out for evening walks.  Maybe it's bear kills.

Oops, got off topic there for a minute.  Sorry for the rant.  There are some bear here in the Simcoes north of town.  You will have to work for them though.  I have seen several in one particular area.  I wouldn't change my plans to come here looking for a trophy though.  I saw some real good bear sign and tracks in the Manson unit this past fall.

But my favorite place was the Selkirk unit.  That has been a few years though.  Lots of big sign- tracks, markings, etc.  It also was the spookiest place I have hunted to date.  Lots of background noise that made the hair stand up on the back of my neck since I was in the grizzly rehab area.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: huntnnw on March 04, 2013, 11:30:32 PM
the state record was taken in Spokane county..21 12/16 400lb bear est

my dad took 18 consecutive bears with 18 4/8 to 20' skulls in NE WA
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: jkononen on March 04, 2013, 11:40:34 PM
The Olympic game farm has some dandies.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Time Immemorial on March 05, 2013, 12:44:49 AM
Some hogs up in the closed area of the rez, I've seen some nice ones, monster tracks too
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Hangfire on March 05, 2013, 05:52:49 AM
Really large Black Bears are where you find them all across the state. I shot a bear thats scored just over 20.5" in the Skokomish valley in the 70's. The largest bears I have seen have been in Pend Oreille county. There are places there where I know some are never hunted with any regularity now that hounds not available. The gypsy peaks and Salmo river have some very large bears, also grizzlies. Low hunting pressure, long life and food grows a big bear.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: RadSav on March 05, 2013, 06:21:05 AM
I would say it depends on your definition of "Biggest".  Are you talking body size (weight) or skull size?


I would have asked you sooner, but I got tired of waiting for the H-W pages to load :bash:  And my patience isn't what it used to be.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: h20hunter on March 05, 2013, 06:27:17 AM
Since i am a meat hunter i would say overall body size. Big fat hogs of bears. Agreed on a few points...all over the state where pressure is less and forage is abundant there will be big bears. Big in body should also relate to big skulls.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 05, 2013, 08:22:17 AM
Just like deer and elk bears only get big by getting old and that means places that don't get hunted much will usually have an older age class of animal.  If I had to pick one spot in the whole state of washington to go find a monster bear it would hands down be the yakama rez.  The Yakamas don't really hunt them much, spiritual thing I believe, I'm sure someone can correct me on that if I am wrong.  When I was delivering to White Swan I knew a few guys down there that did hunt them and good lord they killed some giants!  They invited me several times but I was never sure on the legality of it all so I passed.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: RadSav on March 05, 2013, 04:12:55 PM
Since i am a meat hunter i would say overall body size. Big fat hogs of bears. Agreed on a few points...all over the state where pressure is less and forage is abundant there will be big bears. Big in body should also relate to big skulls.

In Washington state big bodies don't neccessarily relate to big skulls.  It's an oddity I don't quite understand as Vancouver Island has big skulls and Oregon has big skulls, but Washington rarely does.  The record books reflect this.  In Oregon you shoot a 325# bear and you'll probably make P&Y.  In Washington we've taken boars as large as 450# that don't make P&Y minimums.

Want big bodies...I'd go late Sept early October on high west slope of the Cascades. Green River Watershed and north. There are pockets of good skulls in there, but not very wide spread.  Also Early September far enough on the coast you can smell the salt. 

Want big skulls...I would probably not be hunting west of the pacific crest.  Unless I was going to the mid coast south.  Again I want to be close enough to the coast to smell the salt.  The coastal bears are not what they used to be.  Few eat fish anymore and government hunters took out a lot of the good gene pool late 60's into the early seventies.  But there are still larger pockets of big ones to be found than on the high west slope Cascades.  They are just A LOT harder to hunt now that you can not use bait.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: coachcw on March 05, 2013, 07:28:07 PM
Selkirk grizz recovery zone !
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: h20hunter on March 05, 2013, 07:48:11 PM
Radsav....very interesting...thanks for posting up.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Smossy on March 05, 2013, 07:50:47 PM
Radsav....very interesting...thanks for posting up.
H2o is the biggest bear I know... That means Lake Stevens would be the place to go.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Smossy on March 05, 2013, 07:52:04 PM
Since i am a meat hunter i would say overall body size. Big fat hogs of bears. Agreed on a few points...all over the state where pressure is less and forage is abundant there will be big bears. Big in body should also relate to big skulls.

In Washington state big bodies don't neccessarily relate to big skulls.  It's an oddity I don't quite understand as Vancouver Island has big skulls and Oregon has big skulls, but Washington rarely does.  The record books reflect this.  In Oregon you shoot a 325# bear and you'll probably make P&Y.  In Washington we've taken boars as large as 450# that don't make P&Y minimums.

Want big bodies...I'd go late Sept early October on high west slope of the Cascades. Green River Watershed and north. There are pockets of good skulls in there, but not very wide spread.  Also Early September far enough on the coast you can smell the salt. 

Want big skulls...I would probably not be hunting west of the pacific crest.  Unless I was going to the mid coast south.  Again I want to be close enough to the coast to smell the salt.  The coastal bears are not what they used to be.  Few eat fish anymore and government hunters took out a lot of the good gene pool late 60's into the early seventies.  But there are still larger pockets of big ones to be found than on the high west slope Cascades.  They are just A LOT harder to hunt now that you can not use bait.
I just want to eat something I killed/butchered myself. Mmm
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Bob33 on March 05, 2013, 07:56:02 PM
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=5425.0 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=5425.0)
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: runamuk on March 05, 2013, 07:57:44 PM
47.66834°N 122.34984°W
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Smossy on March 05, 2013, 08:06:11 PM
47.66834°N 122.34984°W
700 n 50th st?
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Smossy on March 05, 2013, 08:07:03 PM
Hahhaha thats the zoo, runamuk u crazy, I was like wtf why do I see giraffe's on the map....
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: snowpack on March 05, 2013, 08:07:20 PM
47.66834°N 122.34984°W
Got me!  :bash:
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Smossy on March 05, 2013, 08:07:54 PM
47.66834°N 122.34984°W
Got me!  :bash:
lol Woodland park zoo.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: D-Rock425 on March 05, 2013, 08:15:19 PM
 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: coachcw on March 05, 2013, 08:20:39 PM
your close run but actually there between 80Th and 145Th on Aurora ave.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: smdave on March 05, 2013, 08:30:56 PM
estimates the bear was 570 pounds

http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2008/nov/01/kitsap-hunter-bags-a-bear-of-a-story/#axzz2MjMkHw5S (http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2008/nov/01/kitsap-hunter-bags-a-bear-of-a-story/#axzz2MjMkHw5S)


Lots of bears on here.
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=77291.0 (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=77291.0)
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on March 05, 2013, 08:49:34 PM
47.66834°N 122.34984°W
:nono:
The last time I was at Woodland Park Zoo, they did not have any Blackbears.
 
I don't know where the largest bears are in this state. I've seen many good ones taken from the area between Monroe and Icicle creek area. (yeah, that's a lot of territory) I've seen some really good ones taken from NE Wa, and a few bruisers from the lower penninsula/kitsap area and over on the coast. The largest ones I've seen in country have been in the higher cascades to the north. But hey.. That's where I've spent most of my time. I'll add that there are many bears in the high country. But a true bruiser is tough to find anywhere.
 
-Steve
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Jellymon on March 05, 2013, 09:04:46 PM
These are from central cascades. I'm 5' 10" and can walk under that fallen tree with plenty of room to spare.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: carpsniperg2 on March 05, 2013, 09:15:19 PM
Them are mashers!
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: ouchfoss on March 05, 2013, 10:59:40 PM
I think that your biggest bodied bears are going to found in places with the combination of the least amount of hunting pressure and best variety of food throughout the year. There is one spot I know of  up in the hills of the Olympics that no one ever really hunts for bear because its all old growth timber with no clearcuts of any kind and two years ago when I went up there scouting for elk season I ended up bumping the largest bear I have ever seen in my 20 years of hunting!
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: huntnnw on March 06, 2013, 12:55:59 AM
I disagree..there isnt a 325+lb bear we have taken in NE WA that has had a skull under 18"..Id estimate 30+ bears.... these are boars..a sow is another story.

I disagree on weight..they are not like ungulates, maybe the antler side of it tho...Some whitetails in the prime of their life maybe a 4x4 135" buck and another could be 200" all genetics..same with bears I have seen 15yr+ old bears that were 200-250lbs its genetics some will never get to 300lbs ever
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: deerslyr on March 06, 2013, 10:09:03 AM
same with bears I have seen 15yr+ old bears that were 200-250lbs its genetics some will never get to 300lbs ever

I agree with this. My partner and I got a nice dry cinnamon sow that weighed around 125 pounds last spring. We were amateur bear hunters and had no idea how to judge body size and really couldnt care less. We got so much crap from people that we shot a baby (just jokin around really) We took the bear to have the hide stamped and the biologist tooth aged her at 8 years old. People never believed us. Cant really blame them but its hard to argue with a veteran bear biologist  :dunno:
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 06, 2013, 12:31:47 PM
yes but you can have the greatest genetics in the world but if nothing lives past 2yrs old they will never reach full potential.  Gotta have age!
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: paytonma on March 06, 2013, 12:47:06 PM
My moms friend shot the one from kitsap. good lord that was a giant bear, i mean the guy himself is 6 7.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: pendoreilleadventures on March 07, 2013, 04:09:34 PM
I never have really been into bear hunting. But I have seen some monsters either killed or on the paw that were over 400 lbs here in Pend Oreille county. I only killed one bear it was a once in a lifetime bear. it was very old 19 years old weighted 280 lbs but is squared out at 6' 10" and had a 19 7/8 inch skull. My cousin shot one that was 4 15 lbs and squared out right at 7'.

I had a friend that had a bear on trail cam near elk that was pushing 600 lbs looked like the bears they hand feed at that tourist trap over by West Glacier in Montana  .

here is a picture of the bear I shot. Only one I have ever killed only time I hunted them killed it first day out.  It was full of works all over the muscle and hide he was so old he had almost no teeth left they were all rotten.

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi9.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa88%2Fbowhunter_4_life%2F0118081031.jpg&hash=67be244607068cde3507a68d225985e86ba9b45b)
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: gaddy on March 07, 2013, 04:12:19 PM
thats a cool mount
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: pendoreilleadventures on March 07, 2013, 04:20:26 PM
I actually had to sell him a few years ago I lost my job and had a baby on the way. Although I did sell him to a guy in California and I did learn from the wild justice show that it is a felony to buy any thing from a bear rug skull mount. So I am thinking I may need to call the guy up and see if I might be able to talk him into selling back to me or I will be contacting the game department :chuckle: What you think should I try that or do you think he will tell me to go pound sand?
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on March 07, 2013, 05:06:18 PM
I actually had to sell him a few years ago I lost my job and had a baby on the way. Although I did sell him to a guy in California and I did learn from the wild justice show that it is a felony to buy any thing from a bear rug skull mount. So I am thinking I may need to call the guy up and see if I might be able to talk him into selling back to me or I will be contacting the game department :chuckle: What you think should I try that or do you think he will tell me to go pound sand?

Illegal to sell bear mount? I don't think so.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Wea300mag on March 07, 2013, 05:25:33 PM
Northeast has the biggest bears. :tup:
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on March 07, 2013, 05:26:31 PM
Northeast has the biggest bears. :tup:

 :yeah: :yeah: :yeah: :bdid: :stirthepot:
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: 75johndeere on March 07, 2013, 07:50:22 PM
Yakima county don't see very many but the ones you do see are hogs only seen 3 bears come out of there and all are in the record books

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Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on March 07, 2013, 07:57:31 PM
Skull wise Grey Harbor, Chelan, Okanogan, King, Pierce, Spokane
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: pendoreilleadventures on March 07, 2013, 08:06:21 PM
In California it is its a felony. Didn't know it at the time.
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: KFhunter on March 07, 2013, 08:13:00 PM
Seen one on the rez (Colville)  that I'd stack up against any WA blackie

man o man - I thought I knew what a big bear was till I seen this ol boy waddling thru the timber  :yike:
Title: Re: Where are the biggest bears in the state?
Post by: shanevg on March 08, 2013, 12:44:20 PM
Giant spring boar black bear (red color phase) Mt. Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest - Spring 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0OucM3BoH8#ws)

Nooksack River Drainage Black Bear #2 (brown color phase) - 6/29/10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE833ivKwZ0#)

Nooksack River Drainage Black Bear (coming out of brush) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU68O0CIx0M#)

Nooksack River Drainage Black Bear (feeding on grass) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENDME77F7NY#)
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