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Title: don't believe were being systematicaly disarmed/confiscated think again.
Post by: csaaphill on March 12, 2013, 08:33:35 PM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/12/nj-mother-forced-to-turn-over-her-guns-charged-with-terroristic-threats-after-reading-the-constitution-at-tax-dispute-assembly/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/12/nj-mother-forced-to-turn-over-her-guns-charged-with-terroristic-threats-after-reading-the-constitution-at-tax-dispute-assembly/)
This here blanks me off something firece.
just another line in the sand crossed and nothing.
Title: Re: don't believe were being systematicaly disarmed/confiscated think again.
Post by: csaaphill on March 12, 2013, 08:46:30 PM
more
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/12/calif-gun-owner-who-says-she-admitted-herself-to-mental-hospital-for-medication-adjustment-has-guns-confiscated/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/12/calif-gun-owner-who-says-she-admitted-herself-to-mental-hospital-for-medication-adjustment-has-guns-confiscated/)
dangit the pen is dead and words
Title: Re: don't believe were being systematicaly disarmed/confiscated think again.
Post by: Dan-o on March 12, 2013, 08:48:44 PM
That's just weird.    I hope there are some eyewitnesses, because someone is lying.
Title: Re: don't believe were being systematicaly disarmed/confiscated think again.
Post by: csaaphill on March 12, 2013, 09:29:06 PM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/14/missouri-dems-introduce-alarming-gun-confiscation-bill-giving-law-abiding-gun-owners-90-days-to-turn-in-certain-firearms-or-become-felons/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/14/missouri-dems-introduce-alarming-gun-confiscation-bill-giving-law-abiding-gun-owners-90-days-to-turn-in-certain-firearms-or-become-felons/)
Title: Re: don't believe were being systematicaly disarmed/confiscated think again.
Post by: Special T on March 13, 2013, 07:46:27 AM
scary... It also reinforces the fact that some level of cooperation by the citizen is necessary to make this happen. Stand your ground at your home, require a warrant, only go with the police if you are under arrest. NEVER go to the police department to "answer some questions"!  There are MANY psychological reasons why police use certain phrases and "ask" you to do things in a certain way.... If they have to "ask" the answer is NO!  :twocents:
Title: Re: don't believe were being systematicaly disarmed/confiscated think again.
Post by: Atroxus on March 13, 2013, 11:57:40 AM
I am a bit skeptical. I can't find this story on any of the big news sites including fox news. I don't doubt that it happened but I am skeptical that theblaze has all the facts. If I were wrongly accused of making the types of threats detailed in the story I would be telling anyone that would listen including fox news. I would also be demanding an investigation into whoever called 911 for filing a false police report, since I am pretty sure that is illegal. I would also be trying to find out if I could sue for libel or slander.

I think it is likely that one or both parties mentioned in the article are leaving out details and/or lying.
Title: Re: don't believe were being systematicaly disarmed/confiscated think again.
Post by: Evil_EdwardO on March 13, 2013, 12:47:32 PM
http://www.nj.com/gloucester-county/index.ssf/2013/03/franklin_woman_threatens_to_br.html (http://www.nj.com/gloucester-county/index.ssf/2013/03/franklin_woman_threatens_to_br.html)
Title: Re: don't believe were being systematicaly disarmed/confiscated think again.
Post by: csaaphill on March 13, 2013, 02:08:03 PM
Fox prolly wouldn't touch it anyhows. Fox used to be the conservitive view point and report things the liberal media wouldn't, but any more they're just as bad.
My take on it is people with agendas' will say anything to get us disarmed. That's the problem too too many people aren't willing to beleive that the Gov has it's own agenda, and that because it's not on NBC or one of the other more affiliated news networks it has to be fake. No wonder weve allowed our liberty's to disapear kind of sad really. :twocents:
Title: Re: don't believe were being systematicaly disarmed/confiscated think again.
Post by: Atroxus on March 13, 2013, 03:54:12 PM
Fox prolly wouldn't touch it anyhows. Fox used to be the conservitive view point and report things the liberal media wouldn't, but any more they're just as bad.
My take on it is people with agendas' will say anything to get us disarmed. That's the problem too too many people aren't willing to beleive that the Gov has it's own agenda, and that because it's not on NBC or one of the other more affiliated news networks it has to be fake. No wonder weve allowed our liberty's to disapear kind of sad really. :twocents:

Oh, I don't doubt that there are people in our government working to strip us of our rights. I just don't take any article that is posted here at face value, if I can't verify it through multiple "reputable" sources. (not that any of our media outlets are all that trustworthy anyways but IMHO it's worth the effort to at least *try* to fact check these things.) Especially articles from theblaze, as if I recall correctly several articles from there that have been posted on this forum have been found to be not entirely true, and/or outdated information re-posted to generate alarm.
Title: Re: don't believe were being systematicaly disarmed/confiscated think again.
Post by: xd2005 on March 13, 2013, 04:41:11 PM
Fox prolly wouldn't touch it anyhows. Fox used to be the conservitive view point and report things the liberal media wouldn't, but any more they're just as bad.
My take on it is people with agendas' will say anything to get us disarmed. That's the problem too too many people aren't willing to beleive that the Gov has it's own agenda, and that because it's not on NBC or one of the other more affiliated news networks it has to be fake. No wonder weve allowed our liberty's to disapear kind of sad really. :twocents:

Oh, I don't doubt that there are people in our government working to strip us of our rights. I just don't take any article that is posted here at face value, if I can't verify it through multiple "reputable" sources. (not that any of our media outlets are all that trustworthy anyways but IMHO it's worth the effort to at least *try* to fact check these things.) Especially articles from theblaze, as if I recall correctly several articles from there that have been posted on this forum have been found to be not entirely true, and/or outdated information re-posted to generate alarm.

The blaze
CNS news
& infowars

I am highly suspicious of anything from these sources.  :twocents:

Not to say they don't have articles that are true, just says I don't come close to blanket trusting them.
Title: Re: don't believe were being systematicaly disarmed/confiscated think again.
Post by: csaaphill on March 13, 2013, 06:08:57 PM
Ok well good.
Title: Re: don't believe were being systematicaly disarmed/confiscated think again.
Post by: christopheri on March 13, 2013, 06:17:03 PM
Fox prolly wouldn't touch it anyhows. Fox used to be the conservitive view point and report things the liberal media wouldn't, but any more they're just as bad.
My take on it is people with agendas' will say anything to get us disarmed. That's the problem too too many people aren't willing to beleive that the Gov has it's own agenda, and that because it's not on NBC or one of the other more affiliated news networks it has to be fake. No wonder weve allowed our liberty's to disapear kind of sad really. :twocents:

Oh, I don't doubt that there are people in our government working to strip us of our rights. I just don't take any article that is posted here at face value, if I can't verify it through multiple "reputable" sources. (not that any of our media outlets are all that trustworthy anyways but IMHO it's worth the effort to at least *try* to fact check these things.) Especially articles from theblaze, as if I recall correctly several articles from there that have been posted on this forum have been found to be not entirely true, and/or outdated information re-posted to generate alarm.

The blaze
CNS news
& infowars

I am highly suspicious of anything from these sources.  :twocents:

Not to say they don't have articles that are true, just says I don't come close to blanket trusting them.

 I read both sides of the media. If you look at things from only one perspective then you become programmed and closed minded. Not saying that you are but for me I have to keep a fresh prospective.
Title: Re: don't believe were being systematicaly disarmed/confiscated think again.
Post by: pencilsketcher on March 13, 2013, 06:25:32 PM
I read this story and something doesnt seem right about it. Not all the facts are here and people arent speaking the truth. time will tell. just wait and see.
Title: Re: don't believe were being systematicaly disarmed/confiscated think again.
Post by: dontgetcrabs on March 13, 2013, 06:26:16 PM

 I read both sides of the media. If you look at things from only one perspective then you become programmed and closed minded. Not saying that you are but for me I have to keep a fresh prospective.

So where do you find both sides of the media?
Title: Re: don't believe were being systematicaly disarmed/confiscated think again.
Post by: xd2005 on March 13, 2013, 06:26:29 PM
I merely said I am very suspicious, didn't say I don't consider them. Heck, I've been an avid Drudge reader since 2000 and still question some of the linked articles.
Title: Re: don't believe were being systematicaly disarmed/confiscated think again.
Post by: christopheri on March 13, 2013, 06:48:16 PM

 I read both sides of the media. If you look at things from only one perspective then you become programmed and closed minded. Not saying that you are but for me I have to keep a fresh prospective.

So where do you find both sides of the media?

Drudge report is a good alternative source of news.
Title: Re: don't believe were being systematicaly disarmed/confiscated think again.
Post by: alwaysontop on March 13, 2013, 07:13:16 PM
The Blaze (Glenn Beck) is the best source of news/media today.  He informs me of news that no other major media group would tell us about.  His pro-american, gun, freedom, and doesn't beleive in change - views tell the truth about america. His radio show is on AM 570 from 12:00-3:00 in the afternoon and channel 212 on dish network is his new media channel called the blaze.  At 6:00 his show called the Glenn Beck program is on and it informes me on a lot of facts that the oboma left-wing media does not.  I have dish network for this reason.  Look in to it and you might be amazed.  Don't just take my word for it, do your own research and learn how far our country has changed.  Not only in the last 5 year but ever since President Wilson. 
Title: Re: don't believe were being systematicaly disarmed/confiscated think again.
Post by: csaaphill on March 14, 2013, 03:19:16 AM
thanks ya now info wars has this story as well.
People don't seem to want to believe their Gov would go to these links to support an agenda but it does.
people who speak up are always called quacks racists extremists you name it. I believe fully well that honest people all over the US  are being stepped on, or violated just because they speak up!
They like to still believe we have power when in fact we don't.
Title: Re: don't believe were being systematicaly disarmed/confiscated think again.
Post by: Mudman on March 14, 2013, 03:30:37 AM
Jeez, cant sleep.  Your right about Glenn.  Alot of people arent ready to accept the truth.  I have found that many people still believe in the dream and cant fathom that these things are happening thus they think it right wingism or as made up.  My wife didnt believe in certain things until a few years of me pointing things out and even predicting the future  :chuckle: and some events she lived with me blew her mind.  She told me once "I had no idea Honey!  I never thought of it that way but OMG you are right!"  I have seen some illegal corrupt stuff from the legal system personally that most would not believe.  Doesnt make it untrue.  Our rights and laws are of case law of previos SCOTUS and not so much the constitution anymore.  Beck has gotten things wrong and has exxagerated others but he is mostly accurite in his reports.  Hes a good Christian man but remember he is trying to make a dollar like the rest of em.  :twocents:
Title: Re: don't believe were being systematicaly disarmed/confiscated think again.
Post by: csaaphill on March 15, 2013, 10:42:12 PM
Jeez, cant sleep.  Your right about Glenn.  Alot of people arent ready to accept the truth.  I have found that many people still believe in the dream and cant fathom that these things are happening thus they think it right wingism or as made up.  My wife didnt believe in certain things until a few years of me pointing things out and even predicting the future  :chuckle: and some events she lived with me blew her mind.  She told me once "I had no idea Honey!  I never thought of it that way but OMG you are right!"  I have seen some illegal corrupt stuff from the legal system personally that most would not believe.  Doesnt make it untrue.  Our rights and laws are of case law of previos SCOTUS and not so much the constitution anymore.  Beck has gotten things wrong and has exxagerated others but he is mostly accurite in his reports.  Hes a good Christian man but remember he is trying to make a dollar like the rest of em.  :twocents:
mud like ur new pic ive always wanted a bull dog lol
but ya id say what goes on now will unfold in the future as well. meaning someone knew back in 1968 and not just someone but whole lots of people but the ones who needed to know, that they started a slippery slope that unless we retake the country and make drastic changes we will never be truly free again. just getting people organised though is the problem.
Title: Re: don't believe were being systematicaly disarmed/confiscated think again.
Post by: alwaysontop on March 19, 2013, 07:45:09 PM
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/19/nj-mom-whose-guns-were-seized-following-tax-meeting-tells-her-story-in-exclusive-interview-on-theblaze-tv/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/19/nj-mom-whose-guns-were-seized-following-tax-meeting-tells-her-story-in-exclusive-interview-on-theblaze-tv/)


               I am following up on the story that csaaphill started earlier on this post.  I watched the blaze tonight on dish channel 212 at 6:00 and was amazed what I saw.  I remember reading about her and her story on this website last week.  Everyone needs to see what could happen to her and also another man in the same state of New Jersey who is up for charges, who woke up with cops in his home with no warrent.  Please watch and read this news report that I have posted.  I'm new to this website and I don't know all the in's and out's.  Forgive me if I didn't install the website correctly on the top of this post.  If I didn't forward in correctly than please manually type the website in on the web.  Our country is in trouble and if we do not vote in real Americans who believe in our constitution and bill of rights, we will loose them forever.  Every soul lost in a war or conflict that our great nation have been involved in, will have been lost for nothing.  It is for the dead patriots, warriors of democracy, founding fathers, everyone who has spilled blood and suffered for the cause that we keep fighting.  That means voting.  Educating ourselves on who we vote for and not taking the main stream media for their word.  Look at what we are doing on this website.  We are freely talking about hunting, fishing, camping, all outdoor activities, and yes gun rights and pollitices.  What other country can you do this in without bitting you tough so that you don't say the wrong things that might expose the truth about someone or the government.   It is our lack of government that keeps us free.

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream.  It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same."  President Ronald Reagan
Title: Re: don't believe were being systematicaly disarmed/confiscated think again.
Post by: csaaphill on March 22, 2013, 04:06:11 AM
exactly but since i never served im not patriot enough to see that.
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