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Big Game Hunting => Wolves => Topic started by: pat2bear on March 14, 2013, 12:03:17 PM

Title: Wolves and Indian Nations?
Post by: pat2bear on March 14, 2013, 12:03:17 PM: Question... Since the Indian tribes are sovereign nations and don't have to follow state game laws on the res and ceded land, would this also apply to wolves? Just something I was wondering about.
Title: Re: Wolves and Indian Nations?
Post by: grundy53 on March 14, 2013, 01:14:57 PM: The Colville tribe has already started hunting them. I believe they only have to get approval from the feds.

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Title: Re: Wolves and Indian Nations?
Post by: bobcat on March 14, 2013, 01:19:21 PM: If they do hunt them, by Indian law, they are required to eat them. :puke:

That's why you don't hear much about the Indians hunting wolves.
Title: Re: Wolves and Indian Nations?
Post by: 100 grain on March 14, 2013, 01:21:42 PM: Psssssssshhh. They drink 211 and thunderbird they better not waste them wolves. However them wolves aren't part of my ancestors so they can all die :tup:
Title: Re: Wolves and Indian Nations?
Post by: boneaddict on March 14, 2013, 01:25:31 PM: THeres more politics and money changing hands behind this than you might imagine.
Title: Re: Wolves and Indian Nations?
Post by: CementFinisher on March 14, 2013, 01:29:02 PM: care to elaborate bone?
Title: Re: Wolves and Indian Nations?
Post by: boneaddict on March 14, 2013, 01:40:22 PM: Not at the moment Cement. It will come out. I don't know enough fact and I spend enough time up in those woods, I don't want to piss off the wrong people. Besides, unless the government signs an affidavit or you can google it, no one believes it on here.
Title: Re: Wolves and Indian Nations?
Post by: pat2bear on March 14, 2013, 01:57:28 PM: Good enough Bone. Don't want you so say anything you don't want to. And I forgot to say first off I definitely don't want this turning into a native bashing thread. Please delete it if it does. Just was thinking that encouraging native hunting on wolves would be a good legal way of getting through the bureaucracy.
Title: Re: Wolves and Indian Nations?
Post by: Silent-one on March 14, 2013, 03:00:20 PM: Quote from: grundy53 on March 14, 2013, 01:14:57 PM
The Colville tribe has already started hunting them. I believe they only have to get approval from the feds.

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They don't need permission from the feds at all. As long as they are no longer listed under the ESA the Tribes can do whatever they want with them.
Title: Re: Wolves and Indian Nations?
Post by: bigtex on March 14, 2013, 03:03:17 PM: Quote from: Silent-one on March 14, 2013, 03:00:20 PM
Quote from: grundy53 on March 14, 2013, 01:14:57 PM
The Colville tribe has already started hunting them. I believe they only have to get approval from the feds.

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They don't need permission from the feds at all. As long as they are no longer listed under the ESA the Tribes can do whatever they want with them.

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Once they are no longer protected under the ESA they fall under either state or tribal/reservation management. The wolves that are still in the protected areas/zones still fall under the jurisdiction of the US Fish and Wildlife Service.

Same goes with migratory birds. While the Muckleshoot Tribe (example) can make their own deer season, they must follow USFWS laws regarding migratory bird hunting. Tribes can petition for amended tribal seasons, and a couple do in WA but not all of them.
Title: Re: Wolves and Indian Nations?
Post by: haugenna on March 14, 2013, 03:05:33 PM: Quote from: boneaddict on March 14, 2013, 01:40:22 PM
Not at the moment Cement. It will come out. I don't know enough fact and I spend enough time up in those woods, I don't want to piss off the wrong people. Besides, unless the government signs an affidavit or you can google it, no one believes it on here.

Oh noble all knowing one, please enlighten us. :bow:
Title: Re: Wolves and Indian Nations?
Post by: bearpaw on March 14, 2013, 03:10:08 PM: Quote from: boneaddict on March 14, 2013, 01:40:22 PM
Not at the moment Cement. It will come out. I don't know enough fact and I spend enough time up in those woods, I don't want to piss off the wrong people. Besides, unless the government signs an affidavit or you can google it, no one believes it on here.

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