Post by: NW-GSP on March 17, 2013, 07:28:52 PM
What brand would you recommend? I honestly know nothing about either one so any input would be helpfull
Post by: high country on March 17, 2013, 08:00:05 PM
Post by: NW-GSP on March 17, 2013, 08:42:27 PM
Post by: actionshooter on March 17, 2013, 09:41:47 PM
The only Merkel which would be reasonably priced would be a #8.
The rest are pretty pricey. :twocents:
Post by: high country on March 17, 2013, 09:44:22 PM
Post by: high country on March 17, 2013, 09:45:11 PM
Post by: NW-GSP on March 18, 2013, 06:23:37 AM
Post by: high country on March 18, 2013, 08:23:09 AM
Post by: nwwanderer on March 18, 2013, 08:32:46 AM
Post by: NW-GSP on March 18, 2013, 11:24:11 AM
What kind of budget are you working with?
I would like to keep it below $400 but I am not opposed to saving up for a little while also.
I was seeing some Merkel model eights going for $375.
My main thing is that I'm wanting a sxs for upland hunting cause I have looked at the price for over and under shotguns and I'm not willing to dish that kind of money out right now.
Plus old guns have character.
Post by: Stilly bay on March 18, 2013, 11:48:54 AM
Post by: Stilly bay on March 18, 2013, 11:50:37 AM
Post by: CP on March 18, 2013, 11:55:39 AM
Post by: Stilly bay on March 18, 2013, 12:07:41 PM
whats the going rate for bismuth these days? I thought they no longer made shells, and its a reloaders only thing.
you could get a decent Fox 12 gauge for a little more than the husqevarna and merkel. its a great classic american double and its pretty rare to find one that has been shot to death... however always get a competent gunsmith to look over any vintage gun before firing it, there are alot of factors that affect safety
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1033.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa418%2Fstillydawg%2FIMG_0893.jpg&hash=0d702887ccbd9cab1a80ca96aecd213636a8bcab)
Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 18, 2013, 12:56:39 PM
I have nevery seen a Husquavarna shotgun, but I had a Husky 270 that I hunted with for years and it was a great little reliable shooter.
Knowing what my rifle was worth, and knowing what our Merkel is worth I can't imagine they are in the same price class...
I have the Merkel now, but I only shoot it at the range.
Post by: actionshooter on March 18, 2013, 05:17:15 PM
What kind of budget are you working with?
I would like to keep it below $400 but I am not opposed to saving up for a little while also.
I was seeing some Merkel model eights going for $375.
If your seeing Merkel #8s for anywhere near $400, you shouldn't be passing those up!! The last Merkel I bought was a low end gun and I stole it at $2500
Post by: high country on March 18, 2013, 06:16:55 PM
Post by: NW-GSP on March 18, 2013, 06:47:49 PM
I am sure it's a Merkel grade 8. A co worker found a website that is selling firearms that are being imported from Sweden at really low prices so that's part of the reason I have been looking at the sxs's
Post by: wadu1 on March 18, 2013, 07:13:12 PM
Post by: NW-GSP on March 18, 2013, 07:21:50 PM
Post by: actionshooter on March 19, 2013, 06:07:53 PM
I will as soon as I buy one first :chuckle:
Cmon man, help a brother out!!
Post by: NW-GSP on March 19, 2013, 06:17:43 PM
Post by: high country on March 19, 2013, 07:27:38 PM
Post by: actionshooter on March 19, 2013, 09:06:51 PM
Something don't jibe.....those prices are from 1970!Reading the descriptions, those Merkels sound kinda beat. I really clean #8 is only a 1K gun.
Post by: snowpack on March 19, 2013, 09:15:23 PM
A few that I saw mostly had a broken stock. Looked like metal was in good shape.Something don't jibe.....those prices are from 1970!Reading the descriptions, those Merkels sound kinda beat. I really clean #8 is only a 1K gun.
Post by: actionshooter on March 19, 2013, 10:04:14 PM
A few that I saw mostly had a broken stock. Looked like metal was in good shape.Something don't jibe.....those prices are from 1970!Reading the descriptions, those Merkels sound kinda beat. I really clean #8 is only a 1K gun.
I saw a lot of 80% blue, they sound like a decent deal, but not good enough.
Post by: h2ofowlr on March 19, 2013, 10:45:15 PM
I would go with a Holland and Holland personally. :yike:
Post by: high country on March 19, 2013, 11:58:23 PM
GRAND!
http://www.gunsinternational.com/PURDEY-BEST-EXTRA-FINISH-O-U-2-GUN-SET-28-410.cfm?gun_id=100322721 (http://www.gunsinternational.com/PURDEY-BEST-EXTRA-FINISH-O-U-2-GUN-SET-28-410.cfm?gun_id=100322721)
Post by: actionshooter on March 20, 2013, 09:16:46 AM
Post by: Stilly bay on March 20, 2013, 11:26:58 AM
guns are investments. do you want to make a good investment by waiting and saving some money on a gun actually worth something or a broke down pile a crap you might get a season or two out of at best?
if you could inspect them in person that would be one thing, but your at the mercy of the person trying to sell you something... from sweden? Run away.
not to mention the price goes up with FFL, shipping, and Wa state sales tax.
Post by: NW-GSP on March 20, 2013, 01:50:16 PM
that website looks like a great place to buy a big steaming hunk of crap to hang on the wall. or you could call it a fixer upper project and sink two or three grand into it to get functional.
guns are investments. do you want to make a good investment by waiting and saving some money on a gun actually worth something or a broke down pile a crap you might get a season or two out of at best?
if you could inspect them in person that would be one thing, but your at the mercy of the person trying to sell you something... from sweden? Run away.
not to mention the price goes up with FFL, shipping, and Wa state sales tax.
I agree, a friend of mine has offered to sell me his cz ringneck that has less then a box of shells through it.
I am going to try it out before buying it but being able to shoot steel through it and being able to change the chokes is going to be a far better option.
Thank you for taking a look!
Post by: Stilly bay on March 20, 2013, 02:02:47 PM
I might recommend considering a bobwhite model over a Ringneck. the bobwhite you can find used much closer to your price range. they also have dual mechanical triggers whereas the ring neck has only one single selective inertia trigger. the dual mechanical are MUCH more more reliable than the single selective making the bobwhite a tremendous value.
although both are really good guns for the money and I am splitting hairs, I feel the bobwhite is a good spartan gun for the money while in the ringneck most of the price difference comes from better aesthetics (fake ass sideplates) and single selective trigger which many believe to be an upgrade - but any real SxS enthusiast, upland bird hunter knows double triggers are far superior and usually trouble free.
Post by: CP on March 20, 2013, 02:05:51 PM
any real SxS enthusiast, upland bird hunter knows double triggers are far superior and usually trouble free.
and you can pull them both at the same time. :yike:
Post by: Stilly bay on March 20, 2013, 02:09:34 PM
any real SxS enthusiast, upland bird hunter knows double triggers are far superior and usually trouble free.
and you can pull them both at the same time. :yike:
or if you get a single selective sometimes you only need to pull the one trigger for both barrels to go off at the same time :yike:
I had an aya that would double sometimes, it really packed a wallup.
Post by: high country on March 20, 2013, 02:19:26 PM
Post by: Stilly bay on March 20, 2013, 03:22:53 PM
I am pretty sure my ring neck is mechanical reset....
did a quick search and your right it does have a mechanical trigger, I might have to give a little more thought to ringneck in the future, although I hate side plates and love english grips.
so it all boils down to aesthetics and trigger preference. once you go double trigger you will never go back. much easier and faster to choose barrels on the fly.
two triggers and interchangeable chokes make for the swiss army knife of upland guns. :twocents:
Post by: high country on March 20, 2013, 05:21:43 PM
Post by: AWS on March 20, 2013, 08:47:49 PM
I don't know who you are looking at but most of these imports coming in are well used guns and reading the descriptions there are alot of them that need workd barrel dents and dings cracked stocks and worn finish. Most of them are choked full and full and will need the chokes openned, Mike Orlen did mine at $55. / barrel. If you decide to go that route read everything carefully. Blackwell seems to have a little higher grade guns than Simpsons.
I just picked up a V. Bernedelli XXV off of gun broker for less than 1K and it is nearly new condition, 12ga SxS, English grip, choked IC/IM at 5 Lb 15 oz, it should be a great upland gun.
Post by: Stilly bay on March 20, 2013, 09:56:02 PM
I just picked up a V. Bernedelli XXV off of gun broker for less than 1K and it is nearly new condition, 12ga SxS, English grip, choked IC/IM at 5 Lb 15 oz, it should be a great upland gun.
wow, heck of a deal on a nice gun :tup:
does it have a churchill rib and if so are you going to shoot it churchill style? I had any aya XXV and actually learned to shoot it the correct way, it was a lot of fun and I can't remember why I ever sold it.
Post by: wildweeds on March 23, 2013, 08:57:41 PM
Post by: AWS on March 23, 2013, 10:14:03 PM
Post by: wildweeds on March 23, 2013, 11:21:06 PM
Buds has new 12ga Bobwhites fro $569 and free shipping.
Post by: AWS on March 24, 2013, 08:25:50 AM