Post by: D-Rock425 on March 18, 2013, 12:17:08 PM
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Post by: Eli346 on March 18, 2013, 07:26:15 PM
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Post by: deerslyr on March 18, 2013, 07:31:36 PM
Post by: ShaneTyTrey on March 18, 2013, 07:34:39 PM
I'm finally going to spend some cash and get a new pair of bino's. Not sure what ones to get want to keep budget down around $400. Any input?I would spend a touch more and get the Vortex Viper HD....can get them a lot cheaper then retail of $599.... PM me if interested
Post by: romaknows on March 18, 2013, 07:46:21 PM
Post by: SCRUBS on March 18, 2013, 07:46:55 PM
I'm finally going to spend some cash and get a new pair of bino's. Not sure what ones to get want to keep budget down around $400. Any input?I would spend a touch more and get the Vortex Viper HD....can get them a lot cheaper then retail of $599.... PM me if interested
:yeah:
Post by: D-Rock425 on March 19, 2013, 05:53:24 AM
Post by: SCRUBS on March 19, 2013, 06:37:04 AM
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/7556517/gonew/1/OPTICS_SALE#UNREAD (http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/7556517/gonew/1/OPTICS_SALE#UNREAD)
Post by: whacker1 on April 12, 2013, 05:30:38 AM
Minox 10 x 42 BL - 40% off, which is $299 for the next 4 hours, or so. that would be 9:30 a.m. if they don't sell out.
Post by: scottcrb on April 12, 2013, 06:08:54 AM
Post by: elkaholic123 on April 12, 2013, 06:37:34 AM
Post by: whacker1 on April 12, 2013, 06:43:26 AM
Post by: Biggerhammer on April 12, 2013, 11:31:17 PM
Keep saving and get some used Swaro EL 10x42 you will not regret it and never need to buy another cheaper pair :twocents:
Agreed, buy once cry once. I got a smoking deal on a set of Swarovski's. :tup:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk269%2Flandonmoses%2Fphoto_zps32dcb8a5.jpg&hash=5f2de36a71f5ace2a64e354ed92cc1e4883888eb)
Post by: KFhunter on April 12, 2013, 11:34:19 PM
The new BX®-4 McKinley™ HD binocular will not only change the way you see game, it changes the game completely. The HD lenses provide amazing optical returns to deliver the most vivid colors and sharpest picture you can find. And, with full flat field of view, you get it across the entire visual field. Add in Leupold’s legendary rugged dependability, and you may never need another pair of binoculars.The closer you look, the more you’ll see.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.leupold.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F04%2FBX4_8x42_McKinley_angle-1500-530x436.png%3F39f3f3&hash=0ab7dcfa38cd27c822227909bb40f7454a589df6)
How's the leupold high end stuff compare?
Post by: hunterrcc on April 12, 2013, 11:57:02 PM
Here is the ad from craigslist I don't know him just saw it on there the other night.
http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/spo/3715525328.html (http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/spo/3715525328.html)
I have for sale my Leupold Mojave 12x50 Binoculars. They come with case and Bino Buddy shoulder straps. These are great Binoculars for the price, Very clear and in good shape.
Jason 503-330-8576
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 13, 2013, 10:18:52 AM
Post by: Cap.Silver on April 13, 2013, 10:28:03 AM
Post by: SkookumHntr on April 13, 2013, 10:29:34 AM
Post by: mountainman on April 13, 2013, 10:47:28 AM
Post by: mountainman on April 13, 2013, 11:15:19 AM
Used a pair on my last brown bear hunt and also on a S. African safari. Clear and sharp in both extremes! Lifetime transferable warranty! Win-Win!
Post by: Biggerhammer on April 13, 2013, 02:14:09 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 13, 2013, 03:32:36 PM
http://www.zen-ray.com/shop/binoculars/zrshd.html (http://www.zen-ray.com/shop/binoculars/zrshd.html)
Post by: Karl Blanchard on April 14, 2013, 04:00:26 AM
Post by: mountainman on April 14, 2013, 08:58:21 AM
Post by: whacker1 on April 17, 2013, 10:20:13 AM
Nikon monarch 8.5 x 42 for $349
Sale should go through about Noon on Wednesday the 17th if they don't sell out before then.
Post by: columbiaman on April 25, 2013, 03:22:42 PM
http://www.zen-ray.com/shop/demo/zened3-10x43-demo.html (http://www.zen-ray.com/shop/demo/zened3-10x43-demo.html)
Post by: Roperfive88 on May 06, 2013, 03:28:29 PM
Vortex are cost less than half the price, have a killer warranty looked through the swarovski's and my vipers and there is not $1000+ difference in glass.Keep saving and get some used Swaro EL 10x42 you will not regret it and never need to buy another cheaper pair :twocents:
Agreed, buy once cry once. I got a smoking deal on a set of Swarovski's. :tup:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk269%2Flandonmoses%2Fphoto_zps32dcb8a5.jpg&hash=5f2de36a71f5ace2a64e354ed92cc1e4883888eb)
Post by: Crunchy on May 06, 2013, 03:46:54 PM
Post by: bowhunterty on May 06, 2013, 04:50:03 PM
Post by: Shooter on May 06, 2013, 05:03:55 PM
Impressed with my Vortex Viper HD 10 x 42's. Check out elknut.Exactly what I did and I'm very pleased, brother got the same set too.
Post by: jess on May 06, 2013, 06:13:12 PM
Post by: mountainman on May 06, 2013, 06:44:27 PM
Vortex are cost less than half the price, have a killer warranty looked through the swarovski's and my vipers and there is not $1000+ difference in glass.Keep saving and get some used Swaro EL 10x42 you will not regret it and never need to buy another cheaper pair :twocents:
Agreed, buy once cry once. I got a smoking deal on a set of Swarovski's. :tup:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi90.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk269%2Flandonmoses%2Fphoto_zps32dcb8a5.jpg&hash=5f2de36a71f5ace2a64e354ed92cc1e4883888eb)
Impressed with my Vortex Viper HD 10 x 42's. Check out elknut.
:yeah: :yeah::tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup:Impressed with my Vortex Viper HD 10 x 42's. Check out elknut.Exactly what I did and I'm very pleased, brother got the same set too.
Post by: addicted on May 08, 2013, 01:44:11 AM
http://www.camofire.com/ (http://www.camofire.com/)
Minox 10 x 42 BL - 40% off, which is $299 for the next 4 hours, or so. that would be 9:30 a.m. if they don't sell out.
minox :tup: Dropped mine from a stand and they didnt de coalate. Super bright while i'm hunting at night.
Post by: CoyoteChuck52 on May 08, 2013, 02:06:51 AM
Post by: coachcw on May 08, 2013, 05:55:17 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on May 26, 2013, 08:04:29 PM
Post by: Bshiftbc on May 26, 2013, 08:13:35 PM
That said, I have never had the money to buy any of the "big boys".
Post by: 3nails on May 26, 2013, 08:18:27 PM
Post by: deerslyr on May 26, 2013, 08:26:30 PM
Believe it or not, Ive been running the zeiss and zen rays all bear season. The zeiss image is too bright and sharp for my liking and always end up using my ED3s and let my buddy use the zeiss. Something about there image is just distracting and uncomfortable to me. That or ive been running the ED3s for 3 seasons now and my eyes are just really used to looking through them.
I really liked the Leicas, but for what my buddy said he paid for them, I will not be running out to buy a pair, ever.
This all goes to show its very important to look through different binos before you buy them, they all have different color bias and brightness and its just what your eyes like the most.
Having said all of this, we had $4k worth of optics picking apart a mountainside and not one bear was spotted :chuckle:
Post by: trophyhunt on May 26, 2013, 09:01:47 PM
My :twocents: Sure, a lot of them compare to each other when held up in good daylight for 30 seconds each. Truly hard to distinguish a difference. Where the top glass stands out for me is when after an hour straight of having them pressed to my face in gray conditions my eyes don't start getting bleery and wonky. In all other glass I've had than my Swaros' my eyes would take a minute to adjust after pulling them down. At 300 yds, through the brush, in the shade.....is that a branch or an antler? This is when the big glass will truly stand out. Could be the difference in getting that buck/bull of a lifetime! Don't give up on the Swarovskis' because of the price. If you search hard you'd be shocked at the deals you'll find.I agree completely about trying to compare bino's in the store, that part sucks. I have them go outside with me to get a better idea, I asked about going at dusk to compare but they close too early. I also agree with being able to look through your glass all day without eye strain or getting a headache. I currently have Steiner predator 8x30's, I love the auto focus and being able to look through them all day but they are a bit too small. Please email me if you would and let me know where I can find great deals on the el's. I do think they are great bino's but definitely cost too much.
Post by: bobcat on May 26, 2013, 09:05:47 PM
Post by: NWBREW on May 27, 2013, 01:18:27 AM
Post by: Jellymon on May 27, 2013, 05:57:19 AM
One pair of swarovski binos, or....
ALL of this-
Bow fully set up, Rifle with scope fully set up, rangefinder, binos, and still have a little left over for lunch. None of it low end either.
I know what Im going with! I love my vortex vipers.
Post by: trophyhunt on May 27, 2013, 03:00:08 PM
Post by: Elknut1 on May 27, 2013, 03:50:32 PM
To explain how this configuration works, all 8x42 binoculars, these have an Exit Pupil of 5.25 and a Twilight Factor of 18.3, which if you compare them to an 8x32 pair, which have an exit pupil of 4 and a twilight factor of 16, shows that the increased objective lens diameter will improve the potential for the binoculars to transmit more light.
It is true that whilst a 10x42 binocular has a smaller exit pupil of 4.2mm, they have a better twilight factor of 20.5 and therefore should show better detail in dim light. They will however most probably have a far narrower field of view and that is why for birding an 8x magnification is often (not always) preferred to a 10x. There is also the point to remember that to make more powerful magnifications, thicker glass is needed and the thicker the glass, the less light that is transmitted through it.
ElkNut1
Post by: trophyhunt on May 27, 2013, 04:05:23 PM
All depends on the size of Optics you are looking at. Here's info on Twilight Factors! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>So which is better for hunting in your opinion, 10x42 or 8x32? I am down to choosing the zeiss or the vortex, the zeiss pro's are, Made in Germany (not Japan), been around for a long time with a great reputation. The vortex pro's, lifetime unlimited warranty. The con's of zeiss, limited warranty. The con's of vortex, they haven't been around very long, is this why they have the best warranty, to get some customers trust? I would rate them dead even on clarity and comfort, the vortex is hard to look past with the warranty but the zeiss is proven the test of time. Which model has a higher twilight factor with the 10x42 hd models? Thanks for your input, I will be buying on of these after the drawing results (I may need guide money).
To explain how this configuration works, all 8x42 binoculars, these have an Exit Pupil of 5.25 and a Twilight Factor of 18.3, which if you compare them to an 8x32 pair, which have an exit pupil of 4 and a twilight factor of 16, shows that the increased objective lens diameter will improve the potential for the binoculars to transmit more light.
It is true that whilst a 10x42 binocular has a smaller exit pupil of 4.2mm, they have a better twilight factor of 20.5 and therefore should show better detail in dim light. They will however most probably have a far narrower field of view and that is why for birding an 8x magnification is often (not always) preferred to a 10x. There is also the point to remember that to make more powerful magnifications, thicker glass is needed and the thicker the glass, the less light that is transmitted through it.
ElkNut1
Post by: Elknut1 on May 27, 2013, 04:24:06 PM
Also check out this page & see if it looks like they're closing doors anytime soon, feel free to scroll way down the page! https://www.facebook.com/vortexoptics (https://www.facebook.com/vortexoptics)
ElkNut1
“If a customer had a problem
with a binocular, a lot of times there
was a big discussion about whether
it was a manufacturer’s defect or
your fault,” Dan recalled. “As a retailer,
we might be telling the customer
they’d have to pay $50 or $150 to
have it fixed. We didn’t want that to
be the case with Vortex so everything
is backed by a VIP Warranty, which
stands for Very Important Promise. If
you have a problem with our product,
we make it our problem and we
make it go away.”
“We’ve heard the stories about
having to ship other brands back to
the Orient, and three months later
you haven’t heard anything,” Joe
said. “That’s why it’s all handled
here. There’s no paperwork to fill out.
The customer just needs to send it
back to Vortex, or the dealer can
return it. Within roughly a week
you’re taken care of. If we can’t fix it,
we’ll replace it. It’s fully transferable,
all you have to do is return the product,
or a piece of it.”
Janet has seen binoculars dogs
have chewed to shreds, and trucks
have driven over. When a customer
comes in wondering if the bad thing
he let happen is going to be covered,
and finds out it is, that dealer has a
customer for life. And Vortex has a
dealer for life.
Post by: trophyhunt on May 27, 2013, 04:37:53 PM
Vortex has been in the Optics business since 1986, here's some info on their warranty that surpasses all others, this is a copy & paste straight from them. >>>>>>>>>>>>I don't have any questions on their warranty, that's one of their pro's. I was wondering about the other stuff, thanks.
Also check out this page & see if it looks like they're closing doors anytime soon, feel free to scroll way down the page! https://www.facebook.com/vortexoptics (https://www.facebook.com/vortexoptics)
ElkNut1
“If a customer had a problem
with a binocular, a lot of times there
was a big discussion about whether
it was a manufacturer’s defect or
your fault,” Dan recalled. “As a retailer,
we might be telling the customer
they’d have to pay $50 or $150 to
have it fixed. We didn’t want that to
be the case with Vortex so everything
is backed by a VIP Warranty, which
stands for Very Important Promise. If
you have a problem with our product,
we make it our problem and we
make it go away.”
“We’ve heard the stories about
having to ship other brands back to
the Orient, and three months later
you haven’t heard anything,” Joe
said. “That’s why it’s all handled
here. There’s no paperwork to fill out.
The customer just needs to send it
back to Vortex, or the dealer can
return it. Within roughly a week
you’re taken care of. If we can’t fix it,
we’ll replace it. It’s fully transferable,
all you have to do is return the product,
or a piece of it.”
Janet has seen binoculars dogs
have chewed to shreds, and trucks
have driven over. When a customer
comes in wondering if the bad thing
he let happen is going to be covered,
and finds out it is, that dealer has a
customer for life. And Vortex has a
dealer for life.
Post by: JamesK. on June 12, 2013, 12:45:25 PM
Post by: mountainman on June 12, 2013, 01:10:17 PM
Post by: brianb231 on June 12, 2013, 03:26:58 PM
Just an FYI
Brianb231
Post by: JamesK. on June 12, 2013, 10:15:15 PM
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Post by: Bean Counter on June 13, 2013, 02:13:02 AM
Post by: Red Dawg on June 13, 2013, 02:27:26 AM
Post by: trophyhunt on June 13, 2013, 05:21:50 AM
Have a pair of SLC,s 10X42's for a grand, with tripod adapter?pm sent
Post by: thinkingman on June 13, 2013, 08:58:15 AM
Don't let anyone talk you down. If you're ready to throw down on a pair of EL's, don't settle for less. I haven't made it up that far yet as I'm happy with my Nikon EDG.I absolutely agree.
Swaros are the alpha of the alpha's, but I sure do like my Nikon Premier LX's.