Post by: blackdog on March 21, 2013, 11:24:06 AM
Full Committee
Senate Hearing Rm 1
J.A. Cherberg Building
Olympia, WA
Public Hearing:
1. SGA 9193 - Janet Wainwright, Member, Columbia River Gorge Commission.
2. SGA 9142 - Steve S Milner, Member, Parks and Recreation Commission.
3. SGA 9137 - Conrad Mahnken, Member, Fish and Wildlife Commission.
4. SGA 9128 - Jay T Kehne, Member, Fish and Wildlife Commission.
5. SGA 9123 - David Jennings, Member, Fish and Wildlife Commission.
6. SGA 9086 - Larry Carpenter, Member, Fish and Wildlife Commission.
7. SGA 9083 - Joshua Brown, Member, Salmon Recovery Funding Board.
There will be no public testimony taken on Senate Gubernatorial Appointments. However, you may submit written comments to staff for distribution to the committee members at Katharine.Grimes@leg.wa.gov. Possible executive session on bills heard in committee. Other business.
Committee Meeting Documents
Note: Documents are not available online until the meeting has begun.
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 21, 2013, 11:42:21 AM
Post by: snowpack on March 21, 2013, 11:53:41 AM
Blackdog, is there any public disclosure info on these people? We know about the wolf lover Kehne, but not much about the rest. Any direction you could give would be great. Thank you for the post.Jennings is very pro-diving to the point he is anti-fishing for saltwater. He's been trying to shut down large portions of the straits and the sound to make big dive parks. A couple years ago he tried to shut down the divable portion of MA4 from Tatoosh Island all the way to Clallam Bay so there couldn't be any fishing. He was advocating a 'world class dive park'. He tried to do it without even consulting the Makahs. Some of their elders had to go to Olympia and nearly slapped the guy.
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 21, 2013, 11:56:05 AM
Blackdog, is there any public disclosure info on these people? We know about the wolf lover Kehne, but not much about the rest. Any direction you could give would be great. Thank you for the post.Jennings is very pro-diving to the point he is anti-fishing for saltwater. He's been trying to shut down large portions of the straits and the sound to make big dive parks. A couple years ago he tried to shut down the divable portion of MA4 from Tatoosh Island all the way to Clallam Bay so there couldn't be any fishing. He was advocating a 'world class dive park'. He tried to do it without even consulting the Makahs. Some of their elders had to go to Olympia and nearly slapped the guy.
Great, another anti on the pet fish and watchable wildlife commission. What a surprise.
Post by: snowpack on March 21, 2013, 12:04:29 PM
An older article on Jennings. This was before proposing to move the boundary almost all the way to MA5. :yike:
Post by: blackdog on March 21, 2013, 01:22:12 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 21, 2013, 02:12:41 PM
After doing a very little research and speaking with some people, I've found out that the wolf plan was adopted before Larry Carpenter was appointed to the commission. In addition, from all I've been able to glean on his background, he's an avid sport fisherman and has hunted extensively in the past. I can't say for certain but am under the impression that he would be a good supporter of fisherman and hunters in this state, and may be more of an ally than an opponent to those of us who think the wolf plan has gone over the edge.
The other two candidates are well know for their aggressive and radical approaches to fish and wildlife management. If I had to guess, I would say that Mr. Kehne is probably proud of his work getting the wolf huggers of WA united behind the outrageous plan and that Mr. Jennings probably refers to fish as sea kittens, especially in light of his attempt to cordon off most of Neah Bay to sport fishing. I have no information yet on Mr. Mahnken. More later when I know what I'm talking about on him. If anyone else has anything please add it.
Post by: blackdog on March 21, 2013, 03:29:51 PM
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Post by: blackdog on March 21, 2013, 03:31:30 PM
Post by: bigtex on March 21, 2013, 03:32:12 PM
Post by: bigtex on March 21, 2013, 03:33:11 PM
After doing a very little research and speaking with some people, I've found out that the wolf plan was adopted before Larry Carpenter was appointed to the commission. In addition, from all I've been able to glean on his background, he's an avid sport fisherman and has hunted extensively in the past. I can't say for certain but am under the impression that he would be a good supporter of fisherman and hunters in this state, and may be more of an ally than an opponent to those of us who think the wolf plan has gone over the edge.
Carpenter is as big of a hunter/fishermen as you'll get :twocents:
Post by: blackdog on March 22, 2013, 06:56:57 AM
Post by: bearpaw on March 22, 2013, 07:31:15 AM
I don't see any paid employees for SCI, RMEF, DU, MDF, Hunters Heritage Council, or Washington for Wildlife sitting on the commission.
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 22, 2013, 07:38:13 AM
In the past we came together to oppose Jay Kehne because he is a paid employee of Conservation Northwest. He is literally a paid lobbyist for Conservation Northwest sitting on the Wildlife Commission. Every time Jay Kehn casts a vote the people have to wonder if that was Jay Kehn voting or Conservation Northwest voting. That is without doubt a conflict of interest.
I don't see any paid employees for SCI, RMEF, DU, MDF, Hunters Heritage Council, or Washington for Wildlife sitting on the commission.
Bearpaw, do you have the email addresses for the committee, please?
Post by: blackdog on March 22, 2013, 01:45:45 PM
Sen. John Smith - John.Smith@leg.wa.gov
Sen. Christine Rolfes - Christine.Rolfes@leg.wa.gov
Sen. Jim Hargrove - Jim.Hargrove@leg.wa.gov
Sen. Mike Hewitt - Mike.Hewitt@leg.wa.gov
Sen. Adam Kline - Adam.Kline@leg.wa.gov
Sen. Linda Evans Parlette - Linda.Parlette@leg.wa.gov
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 22, 2013, 03:29:32 PM
Sen. Kirk Pearson - Kirk.Pearson@leg.wa.gov
Sen. John Smith - John.Smith@leg.wa.gov
Sen. Christine Rolfes - Christine.Rolfes@leg.wa.gov
Sen. Jim Hargrove - Jim.Hargrove@leg.wa.gov
Sen. Mike Hewitt - Mike.Hewitt@leg.wa.gov
Sen. Adam Kline - Adam.Kline@leg.wa.gov
Sen. Linda Evans Parlette - Linda.Parlette@leg.wa.gov
Thanks Blackdog! :tup:
Post by: bearpaw on March 22, 2013, 03:55:51 PM
(copy and paste email list)
Kirk.Pearson@leg.wa.gov; John.Smith@leg.wa.gov; Christine.Rolfes@leg.wa.gov; Jim.Hargrove@leg.wa.gov; Mike.Hewitt@leg.wa.gov; Adam.Kline@leg.wa.gov; Linda.Parlette@leg.wa.gov
Conrad Mahnken - Confirm
Mahnken is an extremely knowledgeable scientist and brings a lot of fisheries expertise to the commission that no one else on the commission possess. He also questioned numerous issues in the wolf plan and supports controlling wolves. It is my recommendation and the recommendation of other hunters and fishers that Conrad Mahnken be confirmed. We strongly support Conrad Mahnken's confirmation.
Jay Kehne - Do Not Confirm
Kehne is a paid employee of Conservation Northwest. This in itself is reason enough to oppose his confirmation. Every time Jay Kehne votes he must consider the ramifications if he was to vote against the wishes of his boss Mitch Friedman at Conservation Northwest. Kehne also wants to expand Wilderness areas in Washington and opposes hunters and ranchers on controlling wolves. To his credit Kehne is a hunter and on some other issues he has supported hunters and fishers. However the fact that Kehne is a paid lobbyist for Conservation Northwest cannot be overlooked and he should be considered unqualified for this reason alone. It is my recommendation and the recommendation of other hunters and fishers that Jay Kehne is not confirmed. We oppose Jay Kehne's confirmation.
David Jennings - Do Not Confirm
Jennings wants to expand Wilderness areas in Washington, wants to create Marine Protected Areas (Water Wilderness), wants to close rock fishing in the islands opposes hunters and ranchers on controlling wolves, and has opposed hunters on most issues. Many hunters and fishers feel Jennings is probably the worst commissioner for sportsmen. It is my recommendation and the recommendation of other hunters and fishers that David Jennings is not confirmed. We adamantly oppose Jennings confirmation.
Larry Carpenter - Confirm
Carpenter is for the most part a positive for hunters and fishers, he is a member of several sports groups, is willing to listen to others, and is fair. It is my recommendation and the recommendation of other hunters and fishers that Larry Carpenter be confirmed. We strongly support Larry Carpenter's confirmation. We encourage everyone to use these talking points.
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 22, 2013, 03:57:26 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 22, 2013, 04:40:59 PM
"Dear Senators on the Natural Resources & Parks Commission,
I respectfully write to you today as a voting constituent, a volunteering conservationist, a master hunter, and a concerned Washington resident. Two of the sitting members of the Wildlife Commission who come up for confirmation consideration in your hearing next Tuesday are not suitable candidates for the wildlife commission, Jay Kehne and David Jennings.
Mr. Kehne is a paid consultant for the lobbying organization Conservation Northwest, a vocally pro-wolf organization. Retaining a paid pro-wolf lobbyist on our state wildlife commission seems unbelievable to me. Mr. Jennings is considered by many to be way over the top in his opposition to sport fishing, having once proposed closing much of Neah Bay, a very active and abundant sport fishery, to sport fishing.
As I'm sure you're aware, Dave Ware, wildlife manager for the DFW said last week that he expects damages from wolf depredation to reach $2.3 million dollars this year, a trebling of $750,000.00 in 2012 (ref.
http://nwsportsmanmag.com/2013/03/20/wa-wolf-bill-for-2013-estimated-at-2-3-million/ (http://nwsportsmanmag.com/2013/03/20/wa-wolf-bill-for-2013-estimated-at-2-3-million/) ). The wolf program has gone out of control and has done so with the help of people like Mr. Kehne and Mr. Jennings and anti-hunting and fishing agendas.
I respectfully submit that WA's sportsmen and women pay half of the WDFW's operating budget through license fees, while only 15% comes from the general fund. The remaining 35% comes back to us from the federally collected funds of the Federal Aid in Wildlife Restoration Act (Pittman Robertson), which is funded solely by purchases of firearms, ammunition, and archery equipment. Sportsmen in this state effectively pay 85% of the WDFW's budget (source: WDFW hunter education booklet). Stacking the wildlife commission with people who oppose fishing in abundant fisheries or promote a wolf program which is outrageous and is growing out of control, seems not only to bite the hand which feeds, but to be in direct opposition to ethics and sound government practice*.
Many of the state's sportsmen are worried and upset by these appointments and feel that the DFW is being led away from serving them and toward serving special interest groups who don't pay the bills and who oppose hunting and fishing. We are depending on you, our elected officials to right this wrong. I beseech you to reconsider these appointments and take these people off the commission for the benefit of our sportsmen, solid scientifically-based wildlife management, and balanced conservation.
I respectfully request the courtesy of a reply. Thank you all for your service to our great state.
--
Most Sincerely,
John
Vancouver
*Our approved wolf plan is 50% more aggressive than that
of MT and we have 16 times their population density. MT is having
severe problems, not only with its plummeting ungulate (deer, elk,
moose) populations, but the entire economy which surrounds sporting and
hunting. Our expected increase in spending is just the tip of the
iceberg if we don't manage these predators to levels appropriate with
our geographic and habitat limitations."
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on March 22, 2013, 05:12:11 PM
So is Kehne.
After doing a very little research and speaking with some people, I've found out that the wolf plan was adopted before Larry Carpenter was appointed to the commission. In addition, from all I've been able to glean on his background, he's an avid sport fisherman and has hunted extensively in the past. I can't say for certain but am under the impression that he would be a good supporter of fisherman and hunters in this state, and may be more of an ally than an opponent to those of us who think the wolf plan has gone over the edge.
Carpenter is as big of a hunter/fishermen as you'll get :twocents:
Post by: CementFinisher on March 22, 2013, 08:51:19 PM
Post by: bearpaw on March 22, 2013, 09:01:30 PM
You guys have complained, here is your chance to take a couple minutes and make a difference. If you can't take the time then don't complain when the commission reduces your favorite season or votes against managing wolves in Washington in the face of declining big game herds.
Now is your chance to make a difference.
Instead of complaining on this forum, take a few minutes and write the senators. We have included an email list and some talking points to assist.
Post by: bearpaw on March 22, 2013, 09:03:08 PM
Post by: CementFinisher on March 22, 2013, 09:28:07 PM
Post by: bearpaw on March 22, 2013, 09:55:45 PM
Last year Ranker was the committee chairman who did not bring Kehn up for a vote, we figure that is because he feared he would not get confirmed, so he let Kehne serve without confirmation. Ranker is also the legislator who complained about the wolf pack being destroyed that was eating McIrvins cattle. Ranker lives on San Jaun Island, that's where Joel Kretz's wolf bill would have planted wolves. He was taking a shot at Ranker.
The commission confirmations are scheduled for the Senate Natural Resources and Parks Committee which is chaired by Kirk Pearson (R) and the Vice-Chair is Senator John Smith (R) of Colville (where I live) whom I have spoken on the phone regarding wolves. It is his wolf bills that got approved in the Senate and are in the House right now.
I can assure you that Senator John Smith is opposed to the current wolf problems. I have been told that the Chair Kirk Pearson supports hunters. Several of the senators on that committee are also friendly to hunters.
Now is the time to take action. Use some of the talking points below or write your own message and then send it to the 7 senators in the email list below.
I made numerous phone calls this morning to verify my thoughts were similar to others in the hunting community regarding the confirmation of 4 wildlife commissioners. This is basically what everyone I spoke with agreed upon. We encourage anyone to use these talking points.
(copy and paste email list)
Kirk.Pearson@leg.wa.gov; John.Smith@leg.wa.gov; Christine.Rolfes@leg.wa.gov; Jim.Hargrove@leg.wa.gov; Mike.Hewitt@leg.wa.gov; Adam.Kline@leg.wa.gov; Linda.Parlette@leg.wa.gov
Conrad Mahnken - Confirm
Mahnken is an extremely knowledgeable scientist and brings a lot of fisheries expertise to the commission that no one else on the commission possess. He also questioned numerous issues in the wolf plan and supports controlling wolves. It is my recommendation and the recommendation of other hunters and fishers that Conrad Mahnken be confirmed. We strongly support Conrad Mahnken's confirmation.
Jay Kehne - Do Not Confirm
Kehne is a paid employee of Conservation Northwest. This in itself is reason enough to oppose his confirmation. Every time Jay Kehne votes he must consider the ramifications if he was to vote against the wishes of his boss Mitch Friedman at Conservation Northwest. Kehne also wants to expand Wilderness areas in Washington and opposes hunters and ranchers on controlling wolves. To his credit Kehne is a hunter and on some other issues he has supported hunters and fishers. However the fact that Kehne is a paid lobbyist for Conservation Northwest cannot be overlooked and he should be considered unqualified for this reason alone. It is my recommendation and the recommendation of other hunters and fishers that Jay Kehne is not confirmed. We oppose Jay Kehne's confirmation.
David Jennings - Do Not Confirm
Jennings wants to expand Wilderness areas in Washington, wants to create Marine Protected Areas (Water Wilderness), wants to close rock fishing in the islands opposes hunters and ranchers on controlling wolves, and has opposed hunters on most issues. Many hunters and fishers feel Jennings is probably the worst commissioner for sportsmen. It is my recommendation and the recommendation of other hunters and fishers that David Jennings is not confirmed. We adamantly oppose Jennings confirmation.
Larry Carpenter - Confirm
Carpenter is for the most part a positive for hunters and fishers, he is a member of several sports groups, is willing to listen to others, and is fair. It is my recommendation and the recommendation of other hunters and fishers that Larry Carpenter be confirmed. We strongly support Larry Carpenter's confirmation. We encourage everyone to use these talking points.
Post by: Hunter4Life on March 22, 2013, 11:23:26 PM
There is no reason why we should lose this fight.
Conrad Mahnken, in my opinion is the best member of the Wildlife Commission. He is very smart, he understand hunting issues, and he is a good listener. I support his confirmation.
Larry Carpenter is a fisheries guy, but he is fair and also a good listener. We could do a lot worse than Larry Carpenter. I support his confirmation.
Jay Kehne is fairly knowledgeable on certain hunting issues, but he is radically pro-wolf and his affiliation with Conservation Northwest makes him unacceptable in my opinion. He will not make the necessary chamges in the wolf plan to protect ungulates and protect hunting interests because of his radical pro-wolf agenda. Kehne is very intelligent and he sounds good, but his actions speak louder than his words. The county commissioners from his own county unanimously opposed him. Jay Kehne can't represent the views of Conservation Northwest and maintain independence to serve on the Commission as long as he receives a paycheck from Conservation Northwest. He will be doing the bidding of his employer. This is a clear conflict of interest and a disservice to the public. Jay Kehne’s appointment is a direct conflict of interest where he will serve to approve projects instituted and developed by his employer, giving preferential treatment to his organization.
Dave Jennings is worst member of the Wildlife Coimmission bar none. He makes Jay Kehne look like Craig Boddington. He is a far-left radical environmentalist. Beating Jennings has to be priority # 1. The fishing community can't stand this clown either. He is as bad as they get.
Post by: bearpaw on March 22, 2013, 11:34:38 PM
My biggest concern with Jay Kehne is that sooner or later the Commission will likely be voting or setting policy on whether or not to allow a hunting season or a control measure to reduce wolf numbers in problem areas. Jay Kehne is employed by Conservation Northwest, the most outspoken pro-wolf group in Washington. Is there any question as to how he will vote when it comes to managing wolves? This is the reason he must not be confirmed. For the record I had a couple hour conversation with Jay in my home. He seems like a hell of a nice guy and he showed me some elk hunting photos, but he is getting a paycheck from Mitch Friedman and that means he would have to disobey his employer to support hunting wolves, in my opinion how can he be impartial? As one of the Eastern Washington commissioners how is he serving eastern Washington and in particular Stevens and Okanogan County?
Post by: Hunter4Life on March 22, 2013, 11:40:09 PM
He will do nothing to control wolves.
Jennings is so bad that may be the worst commisser in the entire country that serves on a sportmen's related commission. He is a sea kitten kind of guy. He is that bad.
Post by: Hunter4Life on March 23, 2013, 02:50:21 AM
Post by: Hunter4Life on March 23, 2013, 02:52:30 AM
Conrad Mahnken - ConfirmWell said Bearpaw. I could not agree more.
Mahnken is an extremely knowledgeable scientist and brings a lot of fisheries expertise to the commission that no one else on the commission possess. He also questioned numerous issues in the wolf plan and supports controlling wolves. It is my recommendation and the recommendation of other hunters and fishers that Conrad Mahnken be confirmed. We strongly support Conrad Mahnken's confirmation.
Post by: bearpaw on March 23, 2013, 07:19:53 AM
This is the most important thing that you can do to help hunting in our state. The Republicans are giving us this opportunity on a silver platter. Remember, all four guys up for confirmation on the Wildlife Commission have had a state senate hearing and they were not voted on. They can sit unconfirmed until their term expires without ever having another hearing. They don't have to be voted on, but now they are being brought up for a vote. The Senate Natural Resources Committee Chair is bringing these guys up for hearings even though he doesn't have to. The writing is so clear. The hunting community and ranchers are being thrown a political bone. I would bet that a majority of hunters and ranchers vote Republican. The Republican strongholds in Bellevue and the eastside, in 1980 had all nine seats held by Republicans. The GOP now has three. The GOP is losing in the burbs. The GOP has to find new voters. This session Republicans were unified on gun issues. They only had two or three defecters at most on the anti-gun legislation. The GOP finally has some political clout and they are willing to do what the Democrats do - share the wealth with people that support them. I am not a Republican. I am a political realist whose passion is preserving our Second Amendment and right to hunt. Right now Republicans in this state want to be our allies and I will accept that as long as they support our issues. We have to do our part. We may never again have this chance to make a bigger splash than this. The Republicans on the committee need to hear from us and so does Hargrove. There are some pro-hunting Democrats who support this 100%.
Thanks for your valued input and insight on why we must send messages now. :tup:
Post by: SpringerFan on March 24, 2013, 08:36:48 AM
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on March 24, 2013, 08:59:22 AM
Post by: Dode on March 24, 2013, 10:03:35 AM
Post by: Dave Workman on March 25, 2013, 09:21:55 AM
An interesting drama is unfolding in the hunting community, ignited by a thread on the Hunting-Washington forum, that encourages hunters to actively oppose two Fish & Wildlife Commission confirmations that will be before the Senate Natural Resources Committee on Tuesday.
http://www.examiner.com/article/hunters-encouraged-to-weigh-on-commission-appointments?cid=db_articles (http://www.examiner.com/article/hunters-encouraged-to-weigh-on-commission-appointments?cid=db_articles)
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 25, 2013, 11:41:20 AM
Thank you for your input on the nominations of Fish and Wildlife Commissioners.
We value all input on these nominees – both pro and con – and this input will be weighed heavily during the Senate confirmation process.
Sincerely,
JOHN SMITH
State Senator"
It'd be nice if we knew how he felt. Maybe his answer tells us that. :dunno:
Post by: buckfvr on March 25, 2013, 11:52:56 AM
SO far, it appears JOhn Smith is of a similar mind set as many of the rest of us. I feel he, above all others, best represents my point of view and interests. :twocents:
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 25, 2013, 11:54:44 AM
"It'd be nice if we knew how he felt. Maybe his answer tells us that. "
SO far, it appears JOhn Smith is of a similar mind set as many of the rest of us. I feel he, above all others, best represents my point of view and interests. :twocents:
Good to know. Thanks for your insight.
Post by: SpringerFan on March 25, 2013, 07:23:16 PM
"Dear John:
Thank you for your input on the nominations of Fish and Wildlife Commissioners.
We value all input on these nominees – both pro and con – and this input will be weighed heavily during the Senate confirmation process.
Sincerely,
JOHN SMITH
State Senator"
It'd be nice if we knew how he felt. Maybe his answer tells us that. :dunno:
I got the same reply. Only one to reply to my e-mail.......
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 26, 2013, 05:51:40 AM
Post by: SCRUBS on March 26, 2013, 06:13:16 AM
"Dear John:
Thank you for your input on the nominations of Fish and Wildlife Commissioners.
We value all input on these nominees – both pro and con – and this input will be weighed heavily during the Senate confirmation process.
Sincerely,
JOHN SMITH
State Senator"
It'd be nice if we knew how he felt. Maybe his answer tells us that. :dunno:
I got the same reply. Only one to reply to my e-mail.......
Same one I received.
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 26, 2013, 07:21:35 AM
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on March 26, 2013, 07:33:09 AM
Post by: huntrights on March 26, 2013, 08:47:38 AM
I spoke to Katharine Grimes and mentioned she and the Senators may see messages that are similar. I emphasized that even though they may be similar, the messages reflect the views of the sender. She's ok with that.
I know we have used petitions in the past, but I am not sure how effective a single message is with a list of names versus a barrage of emails. I hate to say it, but a single document or electronic message with a list of names might be easily misplaced ... just a thought. Perhaps petitions and separate emails might be an idea.
Post by: asl20bball on March 26, 2013, 09:18:23 AM
Post by: bearpaw on March 26, 2013, 09:28:39 AM
Hoping we can get a few more messages sent today, the Committee does not address the confirmations until 1:30 PM today.
I just got off the phone with Ryan Benson at Big Game Forever. They have set up their advocacy system to send letters to the Washington Senate Natural Resources Committee. Ryan says it only takes about 30 seconds and a message is sent on your behalf, you even have the option to word the message as desired.
Send an automated message NOW: http://capwiz.com/biggameforever/issues/alert/?alertid=62544316&PROCESS=Take+Action (http://capwiz.com/biggameforever/issues/alert/?alertid=62544316&PROCESS=Take+Action)
Post by: HUNT on March 26, 2013, 09:37:07 AM
Post by: gaddy on March 26, 2013, 10:08:18 AM
Post by: bobcat on March 26, 2013, 10:22:32 AM
But I wonder about the statement that said "there may be as many as 100 wolves in the state of Washington."
Seems to me it's got to be much higher than that. :dunno:
Post by: huntnphool on March 26, 2013, 10:30:58 AM
+1"Dear John:
Thank you for your input on the nominations of Fish and Wildlife Commissioners.
We value all input on these nominees – both pro and con – and this input will be weighed heavily during the Senate confirmation process.
Sincerely,
JOHN SMITH
State Senator"
It'd be nice if we knew how he felt. Maybe his answer tells us that. :dunno:
I got the same reply. Only one to reply to my e-mail.......
Same one I received.
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on March 26, 2013, 10:42:05 AM
+2 sent another this AM and got it back already.+1"Dear John:
Thank you for your input on the nominations of Fish and Wildlife Commissioners.
We value all input on these nominees – both pro and con – and this input will be weighed heavily during the Senate confirmation process.
Sincerely,
JOHN SMITH
State Senator"
It'd be nice if we knew how he felt. Maybe his answer tells us that. :dunno:
I got the same reply. Only one to reply to my e-mail.......
Same one I received.
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on March 27, 2013, 02:56:26 PM
Thanks for your note. The Natural Resources and Parks Committee just heard all four appointees. They appeared in person, and we asked questions that reflected our own preferences. Some committee members seemed to insist that the candidates act in the way that their own constituents would like. I prefer to see them as individuals who have the elected Governor’s confidence (though some preceded him by 18 months or more) because they are capable of negotiating to a statewide solution, rather than because they follow slavishly the desires of one or another stakeholder group, or the ideology of “urban” or “rural” residents—as if those were monolithic blocs. The answers of all four gentlemen convinced me that they are willing to balance the conflicting needs of urban and rural Washington, whether in regard to wolf-management, fisheries management, or hunting. I intend to vote to confirm all four, including the one who took a different position on wolf-management than I do.
If we legislators want to draft and pass our own wildlife management plans, I suppose we could do that. We could legislate hunting seasons, even vote on where to assign staff. But we delegate that to an agency because so much of these acts are decided on a case-by-case basis, and we don’t have the time or expertise on which to base good judgment. So we have to respect the individuals who are willing to step forward to do it, and whom an elected Governor has appointed. That means treating them with respect and giving them a degree of discretion. We get to see them again in another four years, but in the meantime we need to trust them. That’s not naïve; that’s pragmatic.
Thanks again for your advocacy.
Yours truly,
Adam
_____________________________________________________________
Senator Adam Kline | 37th Legislative District
Ranking Democratic Member of Senate Law and Justice Committee
| Washington State Senate
(360) 786.7688 | 223 Cherberg Building | Olympia, WA 98504-0600
Post by: SpringerFan on March 27, 2013, 05:08:50 PM
At least he didn't say THIS>>>> Some wolves need to be trapped and transported to HIS nieghborhood.
Thanks for your note. The Natural Resources and Parks Committee just heard all four appointees. They appeared in person, and we asked questions that reflected our own preferences. Some committee members seemed to insist that the candidates act in the way that their own constituents would like. I prefer to see them as individuals who have the elected Governor’s confidence (though some preceded him by 18 months or more) because they are capable of negotiating to a statewide solution, rather than because they follow slavishly the desires of one or another stakeholder group, or the ideology of “urban” or “rural” residents—as if those were monolithic blocs. The answers of all four gentlemen convinced me that they are willing to balance the conflicting needs of urban and rural Washington, whether in regard to wolf-management, fisheries management, or hunting. I intend to vote to confirm all four, including the one who took a different position on wolf-management than I do.
If we legislators want to draft and pass our own wildlife management plans, I suppose we could do that. We could legislate hunting seasons, even vote on where to assign staff. But we delegate that to an agency because so much of these acts are decided on a case-by-case basis, and we don’t have the time or expertise on which to base good judgment. So we have to respect the individuals who are willing to step forward to do it, and whom an elected Governor has appointed. That means treating them with respect and giving them a degree of discretion. We get to see them again in another four years, but in the meantime we need to trust them. That’s not naïve; that’s pragmatic.
Thanks again for your advocacy.
Yours truly,
Adam
_____________________________________________________________
Senator Adam Kline | 37th Legislative District
Ranking Democratic Member of Senate Law and Justice Committee
| Washington State Senate
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Got the same reply........but what the heck is this in his response? "They appeared in person, and we asked questions that reflected our own preferences."
There is the problem.........they represent who??? Not us.......these types need to go...........sure hope people wake up to the fact that we are not represented any more by the Dems.
BTW........current administration.......NOT my president.
Post by: ghosthunter on March 27, 2013, 07:45:19 PM
Post by: huntrights on March 28, 2013, 09:39:54 AM
I just received the same message as well.
Post by: LeeMajors on March 29, 2013, 10:53:57 AM
If there is anything we can do to get Jennings removed, please let me know how to help. I'll help with the other guy too, but Jennings is PE#1
Post by: bearpaw on March 30, 2013, 06:21:18 AM
Unfortunately, I didn't know about these confirmations until yesterday.
If there is anything we can do to get Jennings removed, please let me know how to help. I'll help with the other guy too, but Jennings is PE#1
They have not voted on the confirmations yet, we need to keep the letters going, please send a message.
Post by: LeeMajors on April 01, 2013, 07:06:57 AM
I don't know if any of you pay attention to this, but Jennings wanted that area 4b lingcod season shortened, and the study he quoted during his confirmation hearing (and in the rule proposal) that states there was some rediculous level of rockfish bycatch for every legal lingcod caught, is total BS. The study was intentionally targetting rockfish, so the lingcod were the bycatch, and he twisted the numbers to make it look like the lings were the targetted species and the rockfish were bycatch.
Post by: bigtex on April 10, 2013, 06:27:20 PM
The Natural Resource and Parks committee confirmed Carpenter and Mahnken.
Did not take any action on Jennings and Kehne.
So what does this mean? Not much!
Jennings and Kehne can continue to serve on the commission.
Post by: pendoreilleadventures on April 10, 2013, 08:20:54 PM
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Post by: bigtex on April 10, 2013, 08:31:25 PM
Confused on that one? Why wouldn't they vote on the two that are clearly opposed by a large amount of voters?
Are they though? Or are they just opposed by a large number of hunters?
I bet if you were to place it on a ballot they both would be confirmed, why? Well just like Senator Kline said, obviously if the governor wanted them they must be a good pick...
Post by: Jerbear on April 12, 2013, 10:40:44 PM