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Title: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: jweber240 on March 21, 2013, 08:39:31 PM
4 years ago when I purchased a 40ac tract out near pontiac ridge I witnessed from my tree stand a single wolf chase down a whitetail fawn about 30yds away. I was able to view about 80yds of the chase before they went out of site.  Also,  before I purchased the property I was hiking all four corners and started to creep down an old logging rd towards a rotten smell and found a half rotted wolf carcass.  It was a big wolf with a gun shot to the head.  Now I  believe thats a federal offense. I didn't think to say much of it being that I became suspicious of the soon to be new to me north boundary neighbors.  After I purchased the land I came back to visit the site about a week later and there was not a single trace of the carcass....not even any hair or bones.  A neighbor down the road told me that out here on pontiac ridge some have adopted the shoot shovel and no tell law.  I hope karma catches up with whoever committed that crime.  I know wolves may be seen as a nuisance but man alive to see that wolf chase that fawn down was mother nature unspoiled....very beautiful in its own respect.
Title: Re: Re: Report Wolf Sightings Here - Hunting-Washington Wolf Count 158+
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on March 22, 2013, 07:27:19 AM
 :puke:
4 years ago when I purchased a 40ac tract out near pontiac ridge I witnessed from my tree stand a single wolf chase down a whitetail fawn about 30yds away. I was able to view about 80yds of the chase before they went out of site.  Also,  before I purchased the property I was hiking all four corners and started to creep down an old logging rd towards a rotten smell and found a half rotted wolf carcass.  It was a big wolf with a gun shot to the head.  Now I  believe thats a federal offense. I didn't think to say much of it being that I became suspicious of the soon to be new to me north boundary neighbors.  After I purchased the land I came back to visit the site about a week later and there was not a single trace of the carcass....not even any hair or bones.  A neighbor down the road told me that out here on pontiac ridge some have adopted the shoot shovel and no tell law.  I hope karma catches up with whoever committed that crime.  I know wolves may be seen as a nuisance but man alive to see that wolf chase that fawn down was mother nature unspoiled....very beautiful in its own respect.

 :puke: :puke:   mother nature unspoiled... Give me a break. If Mother Nature was unspoiled you would not be there spoiling it with your presence. I see nothing beautiful about a wolf eating a fawn alive. At least a cougar kills before eating.
Title: Re: Re: Report Wolf Sightings Here - Hunting-Washington Wolf Count 158+
Post by: grundy53 on March 22, 2013, 07:57:03 AM
:puke:
4 years ago when I purchased a 40ac tract out near pontiac ridge I witnessed from my tree stand a single wolf chase down a whitetail fawn about 30yds away. I was able to view about 80yds of the chase before they went out of site.  Also,  before I purchased the property I was hiking all four corners and started to creep down an old logging rd towards a rotten smell and found a half rotted wolf carcass.  It was a big wolf with a gun shot to the head.  Now I  believe thats a federal offense. I didn't think to say much of it being that I became suspicious of the soon to be new to me north boundary neighbors.  After I purchased the land I came back to visit the site about a week later and there was not a single trace of the carcass....not even any hair or bones.  A neighbor down the road told me that out here on pontiac ridge some have adopted the shoot shovel and no tell law.  I hope karma catches up with whoever committed that crime.  I know wolves may be seen as a nuisance but man alive to see that wolf chase that fawn down was mother nature unspoiled....very beautiful in its own respect.

 :puke: :puke:   mother nature unspoiled... Give me a break. If Mother Nature was unspoiled you would not be there spoiling it with your presence. I see nothing beautiful about a wolf eating a fawn alive. At least a cougar kills before eating.
:yeah: :puke:
Title: Re: Re: Report Wolf Sightings Here - Hunting-Washington Wolf Count 158+
Post by: wolfbait on March 22, 2013, 08:01:16 AM
http://saveelk.com/wolf_030.htm (http://saveelk.com/wolf_030.htm)
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: bearpaw on March 22, 2013, 08:09:40 AM
I separated this off the topic where it was originally posted to prevent taking that thread off-topic.

I am wondering if the OP has any photos and where Pontiac Ridge is located?
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: D-Rock425 on March 22, 2013, 08:14:59 AM
 :stup:
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: turkeyfeather on March 22, 2013, 08:15:11 AM
Unspoiled yet you strapped a stand to a tree. Huh.
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: MtnMuley on March 22, 2013, 08:16:07 AM
 :lol4: Look at where this guys talking......Pomtiac Ridge.....doesn't that say enough?!
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: D-Rock425 on March 22, 2013, 08:17:04 AM
What's wrong with the shoot shovel and shut up rule :dunno:
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: turkeyfeather on March 22, 2013, 08:19:12 AM
What's wrong with the shoot shovel and shut up rule :dunno:
I have no idea what your talking about.  ;)
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: Southpole on March 22, 2013, 08:22:27 AM
jweber, are you sure you're on the right web site? :dunno:
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: buckfvr on March 22, 2013, 08:24:52 AM
I separated this off the topic where it was originally posted to prevent taking that thread off-topic.

I am wondering if the OP has any photos and where Pontiac Ridge is located?

Northeast of Bonapart, northeast of Beth and Beaver lakes, .....just west of Toroda creek north of Bodie, if you're curious.
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: Buckmark on March 22, 2013, 08:25:06 AM
Nature unspoiled? The mine at the top with the paved rd leading up from toroda cr really is pristine and beautiful, not to mention that pontiac ridge is not very unpopulated compared to the surrounding area, not saying a wolf or wolves would not pass through there and pick up a scooby snack on the way, but remain there i kinda doubt.. my bs meter is on high...
MtnMuley what do you think?
*
They do play some mean banjo music up there though.. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: Southpole on March 22, 2013, 08:28:22 AM
and yeah, I know exactly where Pontiac Ridge is. I'm surprised jweber made it out alive himself, there are some pretty bad a$$ people that live there :bdid:
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: MtnMuley on March 22, 2013, 08:33:37 AM
"Pontiac Ridge" is an eyesore to me.  Bunch of crazies from all corners is the best I can desrcribe it.  A place I have no desire to ever roam again. :twocents:
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: Woodchuck on March 22, 2013, 08:37:47 AM
Nature unspoiled? The mine at the top with the paved rd leading up from toroda cr really is pristine and beautiful, not to mention that pontiac ridge is not very unpopulated compared to the surrounding area, not saying a wolf or wolves would not pass through there and pick up a scooby snack on the way, but remain there i kinda doubt.. my bs meter is on high...
MtnMuley what do you think?
*
They do play some mean banjo music up there though.. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: buckfvr on March 22, 2013, 08:39:37 AM
Yep, you can hear the banjos a playin if you crack a window a few inches when you drive through there.......
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: Southpole on March 22, 2013, 08:42:30 AM
I don't know if I should be irritated by this guy loving wolves or happy that someone shot the wolf? My emotions are confused  :) >:( :) >:( :) >:( :chuckle:
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: turkeyfeather on March 22, 2013, 08:46:38 AM
I don't know if I should be irritated by this guy loving wolves or happy that someone shot the wolf? My emotions are confused  :) >:( :) >:( :) >:( :chuckle:
It's ok to be both
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: arees on March 22, 2013, 08:52:46 AM
Or he could be a troll trying to provoke people.
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: Southpole on March 22, 2013, 08:54:00 AM
thanks turkeyfeather  :cryriver: :chuckle: :cryriver: :chuckle:
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: turkeyfeather on March 22, 2013, 08:58:09 AM
Or he could be a troll trying to provoke people.
Ya think?
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: Southpole on March 22, 2013, 08:58:59 AM
Or he could be a troll trying to provoke people.
I was thinking the same thing. Or I was thinking it was one the regulars on here making this story up to see the responses. It's so cheesy sounding... mother nature unspoiled... really?!
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: Buckmark on March 22, 2013, 09:00:42 AM
Humm, the op states that someone on pontiac ridge told him that some of the locals have adopted the shoot shovel and no tell attitude, but his find was not buried, so was he really on pontiac ridge, and why would a local tell someone that they shoot shovel and no tell, when in fact that is telling?
I am confused, and this was 4 yrs ago, i dont think wdfw had introduced wolves to pontiac ridge at that time, i think it was more recent... and why was he in a tree stand, was he hunting in the pristine forrest?  :dunno: And why a whitetail fawn when there are alpacas roaming that area?
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: Southpole on March 22, 2013, 09:05:13 AM
I like how these guys post these weird stories and then we never hear from them again.
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: smdave on March 22, 2013, 09:09:31 AM
I like how these guys post these weird stories and then we never hear from them again.

Yeah and he kept that user name since, (Join Date: Mar 2011). just to post this?
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on March 24, 2013, 07:01:24 AM
 :o
Or he could be a troll trying to provoke people.
Ya think?


 Hell, we have Mods that do that!  I haven't heard banjo's when I've been up there ( I have 13 Ac. there) but I've never been there unarmed. had I seen the chase...well never mind!
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: turkeyfeather on March 24, 2013, 07:05:05 AM
:o
Or he could be a troll trying to provoke people.
Ya think?


 Hell, we have Mods that do that!
Yeah, one has been particularly ornery lately.
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: muzbuster on March 24, 2013, 07:54:32 AM
What's wrong with the shoot shovel and shut up rule :dunno:
Or he could be a troll trying to provoke people.
Ya think?
I feel the three SSS's are the best policy for wolves.
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: Northway on March 25, 2013, 11:06:25 AM
"Pontiac Ridge" is an eyesore to me.  Bunch of crazies from all corners is the best I can desrcribe it.  A place I have no desire to ever roam again. :twocents:

 :yeah:
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on March 25, 2013, 08:07:08 PM
"Pontiac Ridge" is an eyesore to me.  Bunch of crazies from all corners is the best I can desrcribe it.  A place I have no desire to ever roam again. :twocents:

 :yeah:

Hate mongers!!! :chuckle: :brew: I would have spoiled the OP's :tree1:  :stup: nature!
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: deerslyr on March 25, 2013, 08:18:16 PM
Looks like the majority on this thread took the bait, hook line and sinker from someone with one post...a thread obviously made to stir the pot
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: jess on March 25, 2013, 08:27:47 PM
are you sure it was a wolf?? Those bunny hugging mountain hippies up there have been raising hybreeds wolf/dogs for years and letting them go.. Its killing our deer population! Nothing natural about some wolf loving fried out hippie planting wolf dogs on pontiac ridge..
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: bobcat on March 25, 2013, 08:30:50 PM
Just the name "Pontiac Ridge" sounds like a place pot smoking hippies would live, and I've never even heard of the place until now.
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: jess on March 25, 2013, 09:25:43 PM
oh boy bobcat you hit it on the head i believe pontiac ridge is the pot growing capitol of okanogan county.. We need a realy cold winter to kill off some of the critters that live up there.
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on March 25, 2013, 09:44:45 PM
Just the name "Pontiac Ridge" sounds like a place pot smoking hippies would live, and I've never even heard of the place until now.


 WRONG again BC...that would be Evergreen state college.
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: jweber240 on September 26, 2014, 12:45:01 PM
Lol. It's been so long and I forgot I ever posted this thread. I usually never log in. I juts like reading everyone's topics in the deer hunting section. I was new to the site and just said what I saw without thinking it would make anyone think I'm crazy or worse make anyone irritated. I was in a stand that was already existing on the property.  It was the first fall after I bought it. When I was hiking around the property to check all the survey stakes I had noticed a foul smell off of an old skid road. Found the smell and it was a very large dog. Too big to be a coyote and not one to be of the domesticated type. I would say it could have been 75 lbs or larger. It had a pass threw shot through its vitals. I didn't have a camera or think to bring one. It was located at the north east corner of the property that bordered a neighboring 20 ac piece to the north and DNR directly east. After we had bought the property I went back to it a week later. Hiked up to that corner where I found that large dog and found that there were absolutely no remains of it but within a 10 foot radius was another large dog dead with a pass through shot of its vitals, that again looked like it was 75lbs or larger. I've seen pictures of Grey Wolves and these two I had seen looked like spitting images. Fast forward to archery opener and witnessed a large dog that looks like a grey wolf chasing a white tail fawn.

To be ridiculed for saying nature unspoiled, well I guess me being there spiked nature but I was merely just saying because I'd never witnessed mother any close to that experience in the wild. Again call bulls hit but I've got nothing to lie about I don't gain anything by that. Just saw the topic of wolves and would see if it's possible that they were. These dogs dwarfed coyotes so whether they are yocal hybrids or the real thing thought it wouldn't hurt any to put my observations on the wolf topic to let the ones with the expertise give me an idea what I was seeing. 

Also, didn't know any history of Pontiac Ridge before buying.  It's been pretty peaceful so far but have heard some stories for sure.  I'm within the vicinity of where Pontiac Ridge Rd continues passed the turn for cow camp road runs north. Didn't mean to offend anyone. I dislike wolves for similar reasons you all have as well.
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: greenhead_killer on September 26, 2014, 01:03:27 PM
We have a place off cow camp. Not sure if its cause I'm just as nutty but they leave me alone. Have had a few stare downs but nothing more. Seems the game population has been going down last few years. Probably with all the access from the mine. Fortunately haven't seen wolves up there.
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: KFhunter on September 26, 2014, 01:08:11 PM
are you sure it was a wolf?? Those bunny hugging mountain hippies up there have been raising hybreeds wolf/dogs for years and letting them go.. Its killing our deer population! Nothing natural about some wolf loving fried out hippie planting wolf dogs on pontiac ridge..

true story

still advertisements for "wolf dogs" hanging on the bulletin boards around here.   
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: netcoyote on September 26, 2014, 01:50:12 PM
The "ridge" has had some recent history. Funny no one mentioned it this time around. Anybody remember this story from last year?
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2013/sep/04/victim-identified-okanogan-county-shooting-death/ (http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2013/sep/04/victim-identified-okanogan-county-shooting-death/)
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: timberfaller on September 29, 2014, 02:09:21 PM
Just spent four days in Seattle, traveling up and down Aurora Ave :yike: just about every two blocks, a pot shop :bdid:

It did answer one question though, Why are the service workers so rude and ignorant??

No more "smoke" breaks, only "dope time" I think!!  One gal was so concerned about getting to her "break" couldn't even get my order of six chicken tenders correct!!

AND THEY think they deserve $15 per hour!! :yike:
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: Killmore on September 30, 2014, 08:37:23 AM
So how did the shooting of the grouse hunter end, haven't heard if there ever was an arrest.
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: netcoyote on September 30, 2014, 10:15:10 AM
So how did the shooting of the grouse hunter end, haven't heard if there ever was an arrest.

Father and son team was arrested on multiple counts, booked and jailed. Charged with murder. One trial was set and then delayed. Last info I could find was that they had a trial set for April this year. Couldn't find much after that.
http://t.omakchronicle.com/news/2014/apr/02/murder-trial-delayed-next-hearing-april-14/ (http://t.omakchronicle.com/news/2014/apr/02/murder-trial-delayed-next-hearing-april-14/)
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: DRobnsn on September 30, 2014, 10:24:18 AM
Current Jail roster PDF shows them still incarcerated. 

http://www.okanogansheriff.org/logs/inmates.pdf (http://www.okanogansheriff.org/logs/inmates.pdf)
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: MtnMuley on September 30, 2014, 10:28:18 AM
Pretty sure there was a big article about the case in this weekends paper.  Pretty sure the outcome wasn't good for the killer.
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: superdown on September 30, 2014, 10:29:16 AM
Lol. It's been so long and I forgot I ever posted this thread. I usually never log in. I juts like reading everyone's topics in the deer hunting section. I was new to the site and just said what I saw without thinking it would make anyone think I'm crazy or worse make anyone irritated. I was in a stand that was already existing on the property.  It was the first fall after I bought it. When I was hiking around the property to check all the survey stakes I had noticed a foul smell off of an old skid road. Found the smell and it was a very large dog. Too big to be a coyote and not one to be of the domesticated type. I would say it could have been 75 lbs or larger. It had a pass threw shot through its vitals. I didn't have a camera or think to bring one. It was located at the north east corner of the property that bordered a neighboring 20 ac piece to the north and DNR directly east. After we had bought the property I went back to it a week later. Hiked up to that corner where I found that large dog and found that there were absolutely no remains of it but within a 10 foot radius was another large dog dead with a pass through shot of its vitals, that again looked like it was 75lbs or larger. I've seen pictures of Grey Wolves and these two I had seen looked like spitting images. Fast forward to archery opener and witnessed a large dog that looks like a grey wolf chasing a white tail fawn.

To be ridiculed for saying nature unspoiled, well I guess me being there spiked nature but I was merely just saying because I'd never witnessed mother any close to that experience in the wild. Again call bulls hit but I've got nothing to lie about I don't gain anything by that. Just saw the topic of wolves and would see if it's possible that they were. These dogs dwarfed coyotes so whether they are yocal hybrids or the real thing thought it wouldn't hurt any to put my observations on the wolf topic to let the ones with the expertise give me an idea what I was seeing. 

Also, didn't know any history of Pontiac Ridge before buying.  It's been pretty peaceful so far but have heard some stories for sure.  I'm within the vicinity of where Pontiac Ridge Rd continues passed the turn for cow camp road runs north. Didn't mean to offend anyone. I dislike wolves for similar reasons you all have as well.
Were you muzzy hunting out there this weekend My Dad and I may have met you?
Title: Re: Pontiac Ridge
Post by: superdown on September 30, 2014, 10:34:56 AM
There is a old pile of wolf crap next to my trailer.I have not seen any wolves yet.
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