Post by: kentrek on April 02, 2013, 11:01:17 AM
this is about 1/3 the length of the whole turd..it was one solid piece..we had to bust it into the chunk we have..
the big grass is not part of it,just froze to it..
not berries,nuts or fur,its all very very ground vegetation
im thinking grizz but so far nobody has had a clue
who ever proves there case gets a high five :chuckle:
Post by: elkoholic1 on April 02, 2013, 11:03:38 AM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on April 02, 2013, 11:05:12 AM
Post by: IBspoiled on April 02, 2013, 11:11:01 AM
Post by: wildmanoutdoors on April 02, 2013, 11:25:48 AM
Post by: bobcat on April 02, 2013, 11:26:40 AM
Post by: h20hunter on April 02, 2013, 11:30:14 AM
Not like any game animal ive seen. Im thinking some type of ranging livestock.
Post by: Curly on April 02, 2013, 11:32:44 AM
Post by: Fl0und3rz on April 02, 2013, 11:34:35 AM
Post by: ghosthunter on April 02, 2013, 11:36:03 AM
BIG FOOT :chuckle: :tup: :yike:
Post by: Goldeneye on April 02, 2013, 11:38:09 AM
Post by: sirmissalot on April 02, 2013, 11:39:57 AM
It takes a different breed to pack out an unknown terd, freeze it and save it till spring :chuckle:
I'm gonna guess bear, not knowing what area/habitat/terrain its hard to tell. Might try giving it the taste test :tup:
Now that I look closer at it, it definitely has a cow terd look to it...
Post by: kentrek on April 02, 2013, 11:42:28 AM
Moose? Not sure, because I haven't spent much time in areas that have moose. But that's all I can think of.
if it was moose than i wouldnt think it to be all in one piece since they dont squat to poo..lol plus ive nev seen moose poo to be clumped but who knows..
i wana send it to the brfo as kind of a funny joke...
Post by: Goldeneye on April 02, 2013, 11:45:54 AM
Moose? Not sure, because I haven't spent much time in areas that have moose. But that's all I can think of.
if it was moose than i wouldnt think it to be all in one piece since they dont squat to poo..lol plus ive nev seen moose poo to be clumped but who knows..
i wana send it to the brfo as kind of a funny joke...
Looks like you need to file a report before you send it in. This link was on their website...
http://www.bfro.net/GDB/submitfm.asp (http://www.bfro.net/GDB/submitfm.asp)
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on April 02, 2013, 11:47:12 AM
-Steve
Post by: kentrek on April 02, 2013, 11:47:33 AM
It takes a different breed to pack out an unknown terd, freeze it and save it till spring :chuckle:
yeah my dad couldn't resist lol it was pretty funny at camp that night...
but i should also say that it was "log style" and not upright and splatted
this was one turd,all completely together, the pic only shows 1/3 of the real length
Post by: Curly on April 02, 2013, 11:47:43 AM
Post by: whacker1 on April 02, 2013, 11:51:58 AM
Not Moose - Moose beans look like elk beans except bigger.
Not Elk
Not deer
Not coyote
not cougar
not bobcat
not rabbit
Possibles, but long shots: grizzly bear or large black bear or sasquatch?
I would think that it would have to be a grizzly bear or a large black bear that just blew the ultimate cork of all time.
Post by: Goldeneye on April 02, 2013, 11:54:06 AM
definitely not any of the following:
Not Moose - Moose beans look like elk beans except bigger.
Not Elk
Not deer
Not coyote
not cougar
not bobcat
not rabbit
Possibles, but long shots: grizzly bear or large black bear or sasquatch?
I would think that it would have to be a grizzly bear or a large black bear that just blew the ultimate cork of all time.
Remember earlier in the thread H20 thought it might be one of his end results. Need to add him as one of the possibles...
Post by: kisfish on April 02, 2013, 11:54:55 AM
Post by: kentrek on April 02, 2013, 11:55:10 AM
definitely not any of the following:
Not Moose - Moose beans look like elk beans except bigger.
Not Elk
Not deer
Not coyote
not cougar
not bobcat
not rabbit
Possibles, but long shots: grizzly bear or large black bear or sasquatch?
I would think that it would have to be a grizzly bear or a large black bear that just blew the ultimate cork of all time.
:yeah: we had a few "grizz" experts say that its not like any grizz poo they have ever seen..even had an eskimo say it dwarfs any of the polar bear poo hes ever seen
Post by: IBspoiled on April 02, 2013, 11:55:29 AM
I'm gonna guess bear, not knowing what area/habitat/terrain its hard to tell. Might try giving it the taste test :tup:
Now that I look closer at it, it definitely has a cow terd look to it...
[/quote] Yes packing it out is a little odd, heres one i found but didn't bring home. :chuckle: It's a herseys kiss turd.
Post by: bobcat on April 02, 2013, 11:55:51 AM
Let me ask you this: are your turds always the same shape and size, or does it depend on the food you've been eating at the time?
Also, I believe a grizzly bear would have at least some hair in it.
Post by: kentrek on April 02, 2013, 12:02:52 PM
I agree it could be bear. But I don't think the fact that it's in a solid clump excludes it from being moose. Elk sometimes have solid turds like that. It's just too big for an elk, or at least seems to be. Let me ask you this: are your turds always the same shape and size, or does it depend on the food you've been eating at the time?
ive nev seen elk turds that were all in one piece tho..clumped yes but they break from falling to the ground..esp something of this size and length..can you imagine something 3 beers long staying in one piece falling the 5-6 feet from a moose butt and then landing perfectly flat ?? and then not be flatend on one side ?? let alone splattered ??
you could be right but that was why is discounted moose/elk/deer
Post by: Curly on April 02, 2013, 12:07:00 PM
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on April 02, 2013, 12:08:11 PM
Would grizz have a diet consisting of that much grass? I could see a bunch of grass in the springtime, but fall? :dunno: Maybe BF is a good option. :chuckle:
While I don't think that particular turd is from a bear, I'll let you know that I watched a nice sized black bear eat grass for about 3 hours one day, Mid August 2012. During mid September I've seen bears in the blue berry fields eat berries then grass, berries, then grass all day long.
-Steve
Post by: whacker1 on April 02, 2013, 12:09:11 PM
I agree it could be bear. But I don't think the fact that it's in a solid clump excludes it from being moose. Elk sometimes have solid turds like that. It's just too big for an elk, or at least seems to be. Let me ask you this: are your turds always the same shape and size, or does it depend on the food you've been eating at the time?
Also, I believe a grizzly bear would have at least some hair in it.
I have seen Moose & Elk beans that appear to be from a sick animal, but 99% of the time even those have beans at the early part or late part, so to speak before or after the pie that is about to happen.
Deer, elk, moose beans are extremely consistent as compared to us humans as their diet is much more consistent, but I will defer to those folks that are much more knowledgeable about feces than I am.
Post by: cbond3318 on April 02, 2013, 12:13:30 PM
........oh are we not scoring it? :dunno:
Post by: Curly on April 02, 2013, 12:15:08 PM
Post by: kentrek on April 02, 2013, 12:21:07 PM
Could there have been a bunch of snow on the ground when the animal took a dump, thus helping keep it from breaking apart, then the snow melted when you found it? :dunno:
i dont think so,i checked the dates an it was about nov 23rd i think..the turd was idk..a week old ?? maybe less ?? an the snow level was much much higher...also it landed on hard frozen ground with very little grass (side of a road)
Post by: kentrek on April 02, 2013, 12:24:58 PM
Post by: Goldeneye on April 02, 2013, 12:30:08 PM
The guy sounds like a real piece of work.
http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2012/08/did-lord-rick-find-bigfoot-stool.html (http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2012/08/did-lord-rick-find-bigfoot-stool.html)
Post by: Austrian Hunter on April 02, 2013, 12:41:00 PM
Post by: Curly on April 02, 2013, 01:27:09 PM
also if the mods want to put this in a more appropriate section of the site,please do..esp if this isnt bear poo :dunno:
There is no poo section or Bigfoot section..................... :)
Post by: Curly on April 02, 2013, 01:35:27 PM
Huge pile of Sasquatch crap. Bigfoot poop. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3GetVzf1OE#ws)
More info on poo here: http://www.bigfootencounters.com/images/scat.htm (http://www.bigfootencounters.com/images/scat.htm)
Post by: Rob on April 02, 2013, 01:41:45 PM
pointy ends like a coyote, only bigger.
Post by: kentrek on April 02, 2013, 03:10:12 PM
Youtube vid of bear poo (claim of BF poo)
More info on poo here: http://www.bigfootencounters.com/images/scat.htm (http://www.bigfootencounters.com/images/scat.htm)
that website goes to show how smart some people are... at least the turd i found is a bit out of the norm :chuckle:
also thatd be one huge wolf.....
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 02, 2013, 03:50:27 PM
Post by: buckcanyonlodge on April 02, 2013, 04:49:49 PM
OBAMA
Post by: bobcat on April 02, 2013, 04:55:23 PM
okay....name this turd..
OBAMA
:chuckle:
Post by: uplandhunter870 on April 02, 2013, 05:19:51 PM
okay....name this turd..
OBAMA
:chuckle:
i was thinking turd furgeson but that works much better :chuckle:
Post by: KFhunter on April 02, 2013, 05:30:40 PM
Without gravity's assistance you don't get the typical cow patty.
Post by: kentrek on April 02, 2013, 06:09:33 PM
I think bovine - sometimes they are too lazy to get up and just roll a log out.
Without gravity's assistance you don't get the typical cow patty.
hmmm free range still out later November ?? idk much about ranchn but don't they bring them back before winter ??
your theory isnt bad tho
edit...dad says, "no way its a cow turd"......hes been around cattle allot
the world may nev know :dunno:
Post by: Curly on April 02, 2013, 06:49:44 PM
Post by: Ridgeratt on April 02, 2013, 06:53:18 PM
But what ever is was I bet it had Wrinkles on their forehead!!! :chuckle:
Post by: KFhunter on April 02, 2013, 06:58:36 PM
Ok I have no idea!! :dunno:
But what ever is was I bet it had Wrinkles on there forehead!!! :chuckle:
That how you got your wrinkles? :chuckle:
Post by: Curly on April 02, 2013, 07:00:24 PM
Post by: Goldeneye on April 02, 2013, 07:02:11 PM
Whatever it was, it sure must have felt better after dropping that deuce. :o
Remember, that's just a 1/3rd of the turd. That was a true BFT...
Post by: RadSav on April 02, 2013, 07:23:58 PM
Post by: Curly on April 02, 2013, 07:27:20 PM
okay....name this turd..
OBAMA
:chuckle:
i was thinking turd furgeson but that works much better :chuckle:
Post by: Curly on April 02, 2013, 07:29:23 PM
Looks like a bear tappen to me. Probably a den within 100 yards of where it was found. It's not overly large for grizzly bear, but I wouldn't rule that out in that area. The tappen of a 400+# black bear will easily be that large as well. Find the den and stick your head inside and let us know which it is ;)
But this was found in November.......... :dunno:
Wouldn't a tappen be found in the spring?
Post by: RadSav on April 02, 2013, 07:51:03 PM
Post by: RadSav on April 02, 2013, 07:52:34 PM
Post by: kentrek on April 02, 2013, 10:14:29 PM
Depends on food source and weather conditions. Not unusual when a brief cold front moves in during a time of poor feed to have bear sleep for only a week or two at a time. If more effort is used to obtain food than return from that food they will sleep. They might do this a half dozen times before finally settling in for the longer winter hibernation. Coastal black bear of Oregon and Washington might never hibernated for more than a few weeks at a time their whole lives.
had some free time to google "bear tappen" and couldnt come up with a single pic :dunno: have you seen these before ??
Post by: RadSav on April 03, 2013, 12:07:45 AM
In the eighties we used to bait rather close to some year round dens. It was not uncommon to see softer anal plug discharges within 20 yards of bait sites. These are quite waxy as well, but haven't had the long duration and matting of the straw like organics found in hibernation tappen.
One of the problem control bears we took out of an area around a trailer court in late October early November had a monster tappen filled with Barbie doll parts. It's a little concerning to approach a plug of that size and see human like arms, legs and heads in it :o Even if they were miniature replications. I shot him at 5 yards with my bow and all he did was snort at me. No running, no spinning, nothing but snort and look at me! I dropped the bow, drew my Delta Elite and in a loud voice said, "You take one step this way!" About then he raised his head and rolled over backward dead as dead. Once it was over I began to shake more than I think I've ever shaken before or since. And I think it was all because of the dang Barbie parts in that tappen. Still freaks me out a little :chuckle:
I'm no bear biologist and I can't tell you for certain that's what you have there. But it sure looks like one with the wax weathered off to me. :dunno:
Oregon State University is a great place to email photos like that. Every time I have emailed them photos for identification they have responded very promptly. And they have identified everything I have ever offered up. I sent a picture of a Wolverine track I found on the Oregon coast. Though it had been a week since I took the picture they asked for directions to the sight. I don't know if they ever took a team out there to check it out, but it was fun to talk with them as they were very excited about it.
Post by: elk247 on April 03, 2013, 12:16:52 AM
[/quote]
And then a Radsav tappen rolled out of his pants leg. :chuckle:
Post by: RadSav on April 03, 2013, 12:39:07 AM
"It has long been reported that bears consume large quantities of roughage in the fall. This was purported to have purged their digestive tract and formed a plug which would seal their systems until the following spring. Rogers reports that although bears may ingest small amounts of the material that they rake into their dens for beds, feces will form even when the bear eats nothing, and defecation at least once during the denning period is not unusual."
Post by: RadSav on April 03, 2013, 12:46:08 AM
And then a Radsav tappen rolled out of his pants leg. :chuckle:
Funny :tung: I have hunted and guided a few guys like that. The reason I never go anywhere without a roll of blue shop towels (the all weather poopin'/tappen paper).
Post by: JackOfAllTrades on April 03, 2013, 09:03:33 AM
Looks like a bear tappen to me. Probably a den within 100 yards of where it was found. It's not overly large for grizzly bear, but I wouldn't rule that out in that area. The tappen of a 400+# black bear will easily be that large as well. Find the den and stick your head inside and let us know which it is ;)
Thank you Redsav, I didn't even think of that. I agree with your later posts, send that photo and any others to U of O or some university biology department for confirmation.
-Steve
Post by: Curly on April 03, 2013, 09:10:15 AM
Post by: elk247 on April 03, 2013, 03:06:33 PM
Yeah, thanks RadSav :tup: It's good to have someone on the forum that really knows their S___. 8):yeah: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: RadSav on April 03, 2013, 04:44:14 PM
Yeah, thanks RadSav :tup: It's good to have someone on the forum that really knows their S___. 8)
Don't know if I necessarily know my s*&t, but the squaw does regularly tell me that is what my head is made of >:(
Post by: shootsmall on April 03, 2013, 08:13:47 PM
Post by: Bob Williams1 on April 03, 2013, 08:28:35 PM
Post by: Goshawk on April 23, 2013, 09:53:06 PM
Very well, I name this turd "Obama".
Just call if you need another one named.