Post by: janttihunter on April 07, 2013, 07:41:37 PM
Post by: bbarnes on April 07, 2013, 09:22:56 PM
Post by: cem3434 on April 07, 2013, 10:24:20 PM
There dieing of hoof rot caused by the defoliants there spraying start making some noise.
Is there any evidence supporting this? If so, where can we learn more about it?
Post by: dreamunelk on April 07, 2013, 10:30:09 PM
There dieing of hoof rot caused by the defoliants there spraying start making some noise.
Then why don't they have it in other areas of Washington? Why isn't it in Oregon? They use the same techniques.
Post by: kglacken on April 07, 2013, 10:31:50 PM
Post by: dreamunelk on April 07, 2013, 10:39:26 PM
:yeah: And the deer dont get it. Thats what doesnt make sense to me!
Just far enough removed from an evolution stand point that it currently does not. Another brain teaser is why don't elk get hair slip?
Post by: funkster on April 08, 2013, 12:02:08 PM
Post by: bigtex on April 08, 2013, 12:03:41 PM
There dieing of hoof rot caused by the defoliants there spraying start making some noise.
Then why don't they have it in other areas of Washington? Why isn't it in Oregon? They use the same techniques.
:yeah:
The Kapowsin, Snoqualmie, and White River Tree Farms in King and Pierce Counties all have good elk herds yet no hoof rot....
Post by: sirmissalot on April 08, 2013, 12:37:04 PM
There dieing of hoof rot caused by the defoliants there spraying start making some noise.
I saw 2 dead elk over the weekend, and one that I had to put down (with a game wardens approval via cell phone) and only one of them had hoof rot, which was not severe enough to have killed the elk. The one I had to put down had blood coming out of its mouth and around its bloodshot eyes, most likely was hit by a vehicle, the close proximity of the other two lead me to believe that was the case for them as well.
Post by: janttihunter on April 09, 2013, 10:34:19 AM
Post by: sirmissalot on April 09, 2013, 10:57:01 AM
Post by: jackelope on April 09, 2013, 11:01:31 AM
:dunno:
Post by: lewy on April 09, 2013, 11:11:03 AM
Post by: janttihunter on April 09, 2013, 11:25:27 AM
Post by: ghosthunter on April 10, 2013, 05:42:24 PM
He said the whole problem started in the Abernathy gum.
Post by: HntnFsh on April 10, 2013, 05:46:36 PM
Talked to a source today in wfwd. Told me they had three universities working on the hoof rot problem. One is in England.
He said the whole problem started in the Abernathy gum.
I doubt they could say that is where it started. But that is probably where they first started getting reports from. I believe Abernathy is just a part of Ryderwood or Willapa hills. Maybe both.
Post by: kentrek on April 10, 2013, 05:51:12 PM
Talked to a source today in wfwd. Told me they had three universities working on the hoof rot problem. One is in England.
He said the whole problem started in the Abernathy gum.
I doubt they could say that is where it started. But that is probably where they first started getting reports from. I believe Abernathy is just a part of Ryderwood or Willapa hills. Maybe both.
the Abernathy country is just outside castlerock,so mostly ryderwood and stella
and i know that the rot was in the stella before the Abernathy country... but at least they are in the area
Post by: RadSav on April 10, 2013, 05:52:16 PM
Talked to a source today in wfwd. Told me they had three universities working on the hoof rot problem. One is in England.
He said the whole problem started in the Abernathy gum.
So if the wfwd had just quit giving all those elk Abernathy gum to chew on the problem would have been solved!
Vewy, vewy intewesting :chuckle:
:sry:
Post by: ghosthunter on April 10, 2013, 07:06:09 PM
Never been there.
He also said the rot exists in young calves and several where killed by the dept. for testing.
Post by: Dutchie on April 10, 2013, 07:38:01 PM
Post by: heavy hauler on April 10, 2013, 08:15:53 PM
Post by: Huntbear on April 10, 2013, 08:29:29 PM
There dieing of hoof rot caused by the defoliants there spraying start making some noise.
Hoof rot is a Bacterial issue... not a chemical issue.. After talking to someone with a degree in agricultural herbicides and pesticides.. Not the defoliants causing this.
Post by: bobcat on April 10, 2013, 08:31:49 PM
There dieing of hoof rot caused by the defoliants there spraying start making some noise.
Hoof rot is a Bacterial issue... not a chemical issue.. After talking to someone with a degree in agricultural herbicides and pesticides.. Not the defoliants causing this.
Well maybe not directly, but couldn't it be an indirect cause? Perhaps the elk are not getting the proper nutrients they need, which would fight off the bacteria? :dunno:
Post by: bobcat on April 10, 2013, 08:32:52 PM
From what I am told the Abernathy is bordered by private timber lands on both sides?
Never been there.
He also said the rot exists in young calves and several where killed by the dept. for testing.
Abernathy is not a GMU. (nor is it gum, that I know of) :chuckle:
Just FYI
Post by: madmack76 on April 10, 2013, 08:37:11 PM
Post by: TONTO on April 10, 2013, 08:46:17 PM
The WDFW took some sample elk harvests to study not long ago. I believe they took them in the abernathy area. I saw my first hoof rot elk probably ten years ago right here in my own backyard, and believe that the hoof rot started right here in the Longview area. More specificly in the columbia hights area right on the outskirts of town. It is sad to regularly see 20+ head at a time with well over half of them limping. I would love to help anyway I could if they could just figure out what is causing it.
Post by: bullcrazy on April 10, 2013, 08:51:54 PM
Post by: SkookumHntr on April 10, 2013, 09:04:17 PM
Post by: TONTO on April 10, 2013, 09:16:57 PM
Is that a bullet hole in that elk?
Yeah I don't think he died of hoof rot.
Post by: kentrek on April 10, 2013, 09:19:28 PM
The WDFW took some sample elk harvests to study not long ago. I believe they took them in the abernathy area. I saw my first hoof rot elk probably ten years ago right here in my own backyard, and believe that the hoof rot started right here in the Longview area. More specificly in the columbia hights area right on the outskirts of town. It is sad to regularly see 20+ head at a time with well over half of them limping. I would love to help anyway I could if they could just figure out what is causing it.
thats not more than a few air miles from where we first started seeing the rot..in the stella unit between westside highway and Hazel del rd,first in the late 90's i believe
Post by: ghosthunter on April 10, 2013, 09:24:13 PM
From what I am told the Abernathy is bordered by private timber lands on both sides?
Never been there.
He also said the rot exists in young calves and several where killed by the dept. for testing.
Abernathy is not a GMU. (nor is it gum, that I know of) :chuckle:
Just FYIh
:yeah: :sry:
Post by: elk247 on April 10, 2013, 09:25:19 PM
That looks like a healthy bull that was poached for his horns. Too bad that d bag didnt get caught. With the herd in danger of the hoof rot they need all the healthy animals they can get. Dosent make any sense when that animal would have dropped the horns anyway. Just disgusting!Is that a bullet hole in that elk?
Yeah I don't think he died of hoof rot.
Post by: swwaoutdoorsman on April 10, 2013, 11:42:38 PM
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