Post by: 270Shooter on April 11, 2013, 10:43:10 PM
Post by: DoubleJ on April 11, 2013, 10:50:08 PM
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Goodyear-Wrangler-Authority-Tire-LT265-75R16/11983160 (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Goodyear-Wrangler-Authority-Tire-LT265-75R16/11983160)
I have an older ford and got the 31x10.50r15 but, they look good and perform REALLY well, especially for the price. I'm about 3.5 years into them and they still have a bunch of tread left. They grip well in the snow and in mud. I recommend them to anyone asking
Post by: bobcat on April 11, 2013, 10:51:47 PM
I think I only paid $540, then there was a $75 mail in rebate from Cooper at the time. I think they are 285/75/16's.
Post by: 270Shooter on April 11, 2013, 10:59:48 PM
Post by: bobcat on April 11, 2013, 11:03:16 PM
http://coopertirerebates.com/ (http://coopertirerebates.com/)
Post by: mkcj on April 12, 2013, 12:13:52 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on April 12, 2013, 06:40:29 AM
Load Range B? :yike: On a truck? I put Load Range E tires on my 1/2 ton Chevy, I just didn't want any rock punctures. I'd go at least with a Load Range D. I like Coopers myself. They're reasonably priced and made in the USA. I have the Cooper Discoverer ATR's from Discount Tire. They're an all terrain Tire but not a very aggressive tread design. I bought them more for the low price and the gas mileage than their off road abilities.:yeah: Well said but also look at their ST Max, great tire.
I think I only paid $540, then there was a $75 mail in rebate from Cooper at the time. I think they are 285/75/16's.
Post by: Rick on April 12, 2013, 08:24:53 AM
If you hop in your time machine and go back to 1970 and buy a set of bias tires for your truck,then you'd have a tire that actually has 6,8,10 ply construction.
Todays radials are ply equivalent meaning that a C rated tire will have similar carrying capacity as a 6 ply bias tire,a D rated radial will be similar to an 8 ply bias and so on.
You're wasting your money putting any more than a C rated tire on a half ton.
Post by: bobcat on April 12, 2013, 08:28:56 AM
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You're wasting your money putting any more than a C rated tire on a half ton.
Even if you pull a heavy travel trailer?
Post by: Woodchuck on April 12, 2013, 08:31:14 AM
Our shop truck which is a 1/2 ton chev goes 60k with e rated Cooper ATR's on it. With c's it might get 35k. My 3/4 ton diesel will eat a set of c rated in less thatn 10k.
Post by: C-Money on April 12, 2013, 08:34:56 AM
Post by: jackelope on April 12, 2013, 08:36:07 AM
Also have a look at Nitto tires, they are made by the same company that makes the Toyo tires I think. The Trail Grappler is a nice tire.
Post by: cbond3318 on April 12, 2013, 08:38:18 AM
Post by: FC on April 12, 2013, 08:41:31 AM
Post by: jackelope on April 12, 2013, 08:47:07 AM
QuoteYou're wasting your money putting any more than a C rated tire on a half ton.
Even if you pull a heavy travel trailer?
I wonder if what Rick is saying is the majority of people are wasting their money with anything more than a C rated tire.
There's definitely advantages to a heavier rated tire, but you get to a point where the ability of the tire exceeds the ability of the truck. Then it's just a matter of putting the E rated tires on for peace of mind or something like that.
Post by: Arnbo on April 12, 2013, 08:49:15 AM
BFG All-Terain, excellent tire.
Great tire indeed,Too bad they pick up every rock they roll across and my
Experience is a lot of cracked windows following me!
Post by: DoubleJ on April 12, 2013, 08:50:16 AM
Post by: FC on April 12, 2013, 08:53:55 AM
Post by: Buckmark on April 12, 2013, 08:56:36 AM
Not to thread jack but, do any of you guys over inflate your tires a bit or go to the recomendation?I do, i run close to max on my trucks, always have. But never over inflated....
Heavier rated tires, ie: D or E rated tires can be run at higher air pressures than C rated tires, running them at near max pressure allows the tires to run cooler, which in turn can make them last longer during everyday use, also it can help with sidewall deflection during avoidance manuvers.
Post by: FC on April 12, 2013, 09:00:15 AM
Post by: fillthefreezer on April 12, 2013, 09:04:21 AM
i run nitto trail grappler on my truck and on my wife old truck. ive been happy with their performance. ran toyo's before that, they performed well but did not last. bfg mt's before that and while i loved those tires(performance and life span) they were too squishy for how i use my truck.
my next set will be more trail grapplers or possibly duratracs if i change sizes.
disclaimer: i dont run street tires, or even really all terrains on my rigs, the terrain i recreate in demands more than they offer.
Post by: cbond3318 on April 12, 2013, 09:11:09 AM
BFG All-Terain, excellent tire.
Great tire indeed,Too bad they pick up every rock they roll across and my
Experience is a lot of cracked windows following me!
maybe that's why all the pissed off drivers seem to be behind me and not in front! :chuckle:
Post by: DoubleJ on April 12, 2013, 09:20:26 AM
Not to thread jack but, do any of you guys over inflate your tires a bit or go to the recomendation?I do, i run close to max on my trucks, always have. But never over inflated....
Heavier rated tires, ie: D or E rated tires can be run at higher air pressures than C rated tires, running them at near max pressure allows the tires to run cooler, which in turn can make them last longer during everyday use, also it can help with sidewall deflection during avoidance manuvers.
I was in the tire industry for 16yrs, both commercial and consumer and race.
Side panel of the truck says 35psi. The tires say max 50psi which is where I have mine
Post by: DoubleJ on April 12, 2013, 09:21:44 AM
Post by: jackelope on April 12, 2013, 09:24:18 AM
I guess by over inflated I mean going beyond what your vehicles owners manual says
Refer to the tire specs...ignore the owner's manual. All that is mostly for the original tires unless you're dealing with a tire pressure monitoring system, which pretty much everything is since 2008 unless it's the some of the bigger trucks.
Post by: FC on April 12, 2013, 09:25:37 AM
Not to thread jack but, do any of you guys over inflate your tires a bit or go to the recomendation?I do, i run close to max on my trucks, always have. But never over inflated....
Heavier rated tires, ie: D or E rated tires can be run at higher air pressures than C rated tires, running them at near max pressure allows the tires to run cooler, which in turn can make them last longer during everyday use, also it can help with sidewall deflection during avoidance manuvers.
I was in the tire industry for 16yrs, both commercial and consumer and race.
Side panel of the truck says 35psi. The tires say max 50psi which is where I have mine
You are fine then. The tire's rating is the more important one there but you can also find yourself wearing the center of your tread more than the edges.
Post by: buglebuster on April 12, 2013, 09:26:17 AM
Post by: scottcrb on April 12, 2013, 09:32:37 AM
BFG All-Terain, excellent tire.I agree have had two sets and love them. Long lasting relatively quiet and great reaction
Post by: Buckmark on April 12, 2013, 09:38:54 AM
I guess by over inflated I mean going beyond what your vehicles owners manual saysThe door sticker showing inflation recommendations for your truck was based on the original equipment tires when the vehicle was sold new.
It should give the tire size and the inflation recommendations.
ie: P235/75R15
Tire pressure ratings on the tire indicate the max load that the tire can safely carry with that amont of air.
ie: max load of 1985lbs @50psi - the max load capacity decreases with lower inflation pressure, but does not increase with inflation over the max rating.
Also remember that your vehicles load rating does not increase just becasue you put on a higher rated tire...ie: if you install 16" load e tires rated at 3042lbs ea at 80psi onto your 1/2 ton truck it still is a 1/2 ton truck....
Post by: DoubleJ on April 12, 2013, 09:40:04 AM
Post by: Rick on April 12, 2013, 11:00:05 AM
QuoteYou're wasting your money putting any more than a C rated tire on a half ton.
Even if you pull a heavy travel trailer?
Absolutely.
The wheels on your truck are only rated to carry so much weight,and hold so much PSI. If the wheels are rated to carry 2500lbs and hold 50 PSI,whats the point of buying a tire that will carry 3500 and take 80 PSI? You can't air the tire up to their full potential and like I said,they aren't any more puncture resistant.
The factory sized and rated tires on a truck are enough to carry/haul whatever the truck is designed for. If your trailer is heavy enough that you're concerned that the factory tire ratings aren't enough,you probably need a different truck.
Post by: grundy53 on April 12, 2013, 11:17:32 AM
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Post by: bobcat on April 12, 2013, 11:17:55 AM
QuoteYou're wasting your money putting any more than a C rated tire on a half ton.
Even if you pull a heavy travel trailer?
Absolutely.
The wheels on your truck are only rated to carry so much weight,and hold so much PSI. If the wheels are rated to carry 2500lbs and hold 50 PSI,whats the point of buying a tire that will carry 3500 and take 80 PSI? You can't air the tire up to their full potential and like I said,they aren't any more puncture resistant.
The factory sized and rated tires on a truck are enough to carry/haul whatever the truck is designed for. If your trailer is heavy enough that you're concerned that the factory tire ratings aren't enough,you probably need a different truck.
The stock tires on my truck only lasted until the first time I drove it off the pavement. A nice gravel road, and I only made it about a mile before a rear tire went completely flat from a rock puncture right through the tread.
Maybe the tires I have now are overkill, but I've never had a flat tire. I never inflate them over 60 pounds, and normally run them at 35 unless I'm hauling something.
Post by: Rick on April 12, 2013, 11:24:46 AM
Swing in to any of the DOT scales on the side of the highway. Even if the scales are "closed",99% of the time,they leave the scale on and its a matter of looking in their window to get the weights.
Write down the weight on each axle,and when you get home call whichever tire manufacturer built the tires on your truck. They'll have a capacity chart for each size tire they produce.
The OEM tires on my 2500HD are E rated. To carry the max weight,the tire needs 80psi. In my case 65psi is sufficient to carry the actual weight on the rear axle of the unloaded truck as well as the 2000lb pin weight of my fifth wheel. For a bit of margin,I run the rear tires at 70psi. The fronts only need 55psi to carry the weight on the front axle.
In my case running the rears at 80 while towing wouldn't hurt,but really isn't beneficial. Whether I'm towing or not,running the fronts at 80 would wear the centers out of the tread.
When I'm not towing I run the rears at 50. Its enough to carry the weight on an empty rear axle,and has two benefits. Less psi produces better traction,and your teeth don't rattle out of your head with the stiff ride.
Post by: Mudman on April 12, 2013, 11:31:18 AM
Post by: hunting4sanity on April 12, 2013, 11:34:00 AM
Post by: 6x6in6 on April 12, 2013, 11:39:07 AM
If you guys really want to know how much air pressure the tires on your truck need,it'll take about 5 minutes to get done.:yeah:
Swing in to any of the DOT scales on the side of the highway. Even if the scales are "closed",99% of the time,they leave the scale on and its a matter of looking in their window to get the weights.
Write down the weight on each axle,and when you get home call whichever tire manufacturer built the tires on your truck. They'll have a capacity chart for each size tire they produce.
The OEM tires on my 2500HD are E rated. To carry the max weight,the tire needs 80psi. In my case 65psi is sufficient to carry the actual weight on the rear axle of the unloaded truck as well as the 2000lb pin weight of my fifth wheel. For a bit of margin,I run the rear tires at 70psi. The fronts only need 55psi to carry the weight on the front axle.
In my case running the rears at 80 while towing wouldn't hurt,but really isn't beneficial. Whether I'm towing or not,running the fronts at 80 would wear the centers out of the tread.
When I'm not towing I run the rears at 50. Its enough to carry the weight on an empty rear axle,and has two benefits. Less psi produces better traction,and your teeth don't rattle out of your head with the stiff ride.
Exactly, well said Rick!
With my 4500# camper on my dually, I run 70 psi in the rears and 60 in the fronts.
When I have the horse trailer attached, via weight distribution hitch, I run 75 in the rear and 65 in the front.
All of the above has been calculated via scaled axle weights. Those air psi's are about across the board 5psi more than the math plays out. I found that the truck just simply drives better, the tread surface temperature is cooler and it doesn't hunt the ruts of the freeway like it does with a little lower air psi.
Empty drive around town weight, 40 in the rears and 55 in the fronts.
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on April 12, 2013, 11:40:41 AM
Post by: jackelope on April 12, 2013, 11:45:26 AM
Gots BFG all terain load E. Came from Disscount Tire with 50,000 mile guarantee with the penney head for a depth guage. If the head shows at or before 50G. Free tires!!!!! :IBCOOL:
Shocking if that is actually how it would play out. I don't know how they could stand behind that if that were true. Do you have to go there every 5k miles for rotations in order to maintain that? So many possibilities for poorly maintained tires on the owner's behalf. Are you sure it's not a manufacturer's defect warranty?
Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on April 12, 2013, 11:52:54 AM
Post by: Buckmark on April 12, 2013, 12:03:00 PM
Post by: Rick on April 12, 2013, 01:14:47 PM
Gots BFG all terain load E. Came from Disscount Tire with 50,000 mile guarantee with the penney head for a depth guage. If the head shows at or before 50G. Free tires!!!!! :IBCOOL:
Shocking if that is actually how it would play out. I don't know how they could stand behind that if that were true. Do you have to go there every 5k miles for rotations in order to maintain that? So many possibilities for poorly maintained tires on the owner's behalf. Are you sure it's not a manufacturer's defect warranty?
Jackelope is on it. Mileage warranties are pro-rated. You don't get a free set of tires. You get a discount on a replacement set.
Post by: raydog on April 12, 2013, 01:18:52 PM
I really like my toyo open country mt's.my dads truck has new toyos and the are very grippy. i want them on my rig.
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Post by: Woodchuck on April 12, 2013, 01:30:32 PM
Fill them with helium so your truck floats down the road...... :chuckle::yeah: Really extends the life of the tread to.
Post by: jackelope on April 12, 2013, 02:15:51 PM
When i bought them thats what the sales guy said. Rotation every 5G. Give em a call and see if they tell you different? It was the Bonney Lake store.
I don't have time to call them. I'm not a tire expert and don't have a ton of tire experience. I have a little, and we sell them. I've never seen a tire warranty based on wear. I have based on a manufacturer's defect, but not wear. As Rick said, there may be a pro-rate too. I just don't know of a warranty based on wear that you'd get free tires because your old ones wore out. You may want to call and verify that is the case so there are no surprises once your tires are worn out.
:dunno:
Post by: Skillet on April 12, 2013, 02:57:08 PM
Post by: Rick on April 12, 2013, 03:16:50 PM
Discount Tire's warranty
In the event one or more of your tires fail due to defect, or incurs damage that cannot be repaired, Discount Tire will replace it absolutely FREE. Regardless of the number of miles you put on the tires, you will be covered for the life of the original tread down to 3/32" remaining, or 3 years from the date of purchase. We have been offering this warranty for over 30 years. This Certificate for Free Replacement is unbeatable in the tire industry!
Thats their road hazard warranty,which requires you to purchase a certificate for each tire. Then if you use the RH warranty,you have to buy another certificate for the new tire.
Mileage warranties are from the tire manufacturer.
Post by: jackelope on April 12, 2013, 03:21:24 PM
Discount Tire's warrantyWhich you have to pay for.
In the event one or more of your tires fail due to defect, or incurs damage that cannot be repaired, Discount Tire will replace it absolutely FREE. Regardless of the number of miles you put on the tires, you will be covered for the life of the original tread down to 3/32" remaining, or 3 years from the date of purchase. We have been offering this warranty for over 30 years. This Certificate for Free Replacement is unbeatable in the tire industry!
How to Purchase the Certificate
At the point of sale, we will ask if you want to purchase the Certificate for Repair, Refund or Replacement for your tires. If you decline at that time, you still have 30 days from the date of purchase to buy the certificate. Remember, the sooner you buy, the sooner you are covered by the best program in the business.
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Post by: alecvg on April 12, 2013, 06:27:04 PM
toyo mtz or bfg mud terrians km2 never will get stuck period
BS. Gotten both of the first two buried. Any tire will get stuck. Get super swampers :chuckle:
Post by: Mudman on April 12, 2013, 08:53:26 PM
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Post by: Hawgdawg on April 12, 2013, 09:07:58 PM
I've been VERY happy with the Goodyear Wrangler Authority from Wal Mart
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Goodyear-Wrangler-Authority-Tire-LT265-75R16/11983160 (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Goodyear-Wrangler-Authority-Tire-LT265-75R16/11983160)
I have an older ford and got the 31x10.50r15 but, they look good and perform REALLY well, especially for the price. I'm about 3.5 years into them and they still have a bunch of tread left. They grip well in the snow and in mud. I recommend them to anyone asking
If you buy your tires or anything from walmart move to China please...your not one of us!
Post by: 270Shooter on April 12, 2013, 11:00:43 PM
Post by: jackelope on April 12, 2013, 11:07:23 PM
Post by: 270Shooter on April 13, 2013, 07:41:14 AM
Discount sells Nitto.the closest store in Wenatchee though. I am in Yakima, so my choices are limited somewhat. We have schwabs, commercial tire, tire factory, and various other small local shops
Post by: Sawbuck on April 13, 2013, 08:56:41 AM
BFG All-Terain, excellent tire.Another guy for BFG A/T. I've got them on my 2500 suburban and on my 2500hd duramax. They wear nice and perform great. A load range E will run cooler and that will equal more miles, not to mention that a stiffer sidewall is kind of nice when you work them like most of us hunters. A diesel pickup with a trailer loaded with five horses and all your crap for a two week elk hunt, rolling down a rough mountain road, way too fast is a great test for the tires. I hear what Rick is saying and I see it comparing my 10 ply E tires on my trailer with the All Terrains on my pickup, the A/Ts are just built tougher. The BFGs cost more but you will make that up on milage. Discount has been great to work with and so has Schwabs. Discount carries the BFG's and Schwab doesn't so guess where I go? I did have a set of Wild Country's (made by Cooper) from Les Schwab on my 1 ton flatbed and they did real well also. Buying good tires kind of sucks but it beats being stuck on the side of the road because you "got a deal". Unless you don't plan on keeping the vehicle it doesn't make sense to buy cheap tires.
Post by: jackelope on April 13, 2013, 09:01:45 AM
Discount sells Nitto.the closest store in Wenatchee though. I am in Yakima, so my choices are limited somewhat. We have schwabs, commercial tire, tire factory, and various other small local shops
If you really want them I bet they sell them on Tirerack.com. I'd bet they have an installer in your area. Might be worth checking into. They will ship the tires to the installer and you take your rig there. We used to do it at a shop I worked at.
Post by: 270Shooter on May 07, 2013, 10:19:05 PM
Post by: coachcw on May 07, 2013, 10:39:53 PM
Post by: Shooter on May 07, 2013, 11:23:15 PM
What I really liked also is that I could put just shy of a 35 on a leveled 3500 without cutting on stock 18's, attached picture
You can check them out at Les Schwab in Yakima.
Post by: Alchase on May 08, 2013, 12:52:08 PM
I put Yokohama Geolander A/T-S on my wife's Durango, and liked them so much I decided to try them on the Ram.
Two years running, they are going great!
The Yokohama Geolanders are $50+ cheaper per tire then the BFG A/T KOs
Post by: 270Shooter on May 08, 2013, 01:20:26 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on May 08, 2013, 01:25:27 PM
I got the st maxx this morning, about 900 or so out the door, they look good and the guy told me all the police rigs on the training center have switched to this tire. They don't ride too rough for a ten ply on a half ton, only have 35 psi in them now though, may bump them up a little:yeah: This will be my next tires
Post by: Shooter on May 08, 2013, 01:29:04 PM
I got the st maxx this morning, about 900 or so out the door, they look good and the guy told me all the police rigs on the training center have switched to this tire. They don't ride too rough for a ten ply on a half ton, only have 35 psi in them now though, may bump them up a little
Let us see a picture of those new shoes on the truck 270Shooter
Post by: 270Shooter on May 08, 2013, 01:37:56 PM
Post by: Woodchuck on May 08, 2013, 01:49:08 PM
Google link :tup:
Post by: glowaski81 on May 08, 2013, 02:28:31 PM
Post by: bobcat on May 08, 2013, 06:12:44 PM
Hopefully getting the Cooper ST maxx tomorrow, the more i read about them, the more I feel like they are a good tire, I know they are new, but I have read enough good reviews, plus the three ply sidewall is the kicker for me after having a rock puncture last week.
You won't regret buying Coopers. And like I said before, they're American made! :tup:
Also reasonably priced compared to other brands. I may not ever buy another tire that isn't a Cooper.
Post by: JLS on May 08, 2013, 06:18:10 PM
Post by: 270Shooter on May 09, 2013, 12:12:13 PM
Post by: PolarBear on May 09, 2013, 12:14:21 PM
I've been VERY happy with the Goodyear Wrangler Authority from Wal MartI have 4 buddies who swear by those!
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Goodyear-Wrangler-Authority-Tire-LT265-75R16/11983160 (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Goodyear-Wrangler-Authority-Tire-LT265-75R16/11983160)
I have an older ford and got the 31x10.50r15 but, they look good and perform REALLY well, especially for the price. I'm about 3.5 years into them and they still have a bunch of tread left. They grip well in the snow and in mud. I recommend them to anyone asking
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Click on "Attachments and other options."
Then "Choose File," "Choose Existing," and then find your photo and select it.
Nothing to it.
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