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Re: What tires?
« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2013, 11:00:05 AM »
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You're wasting your money putting any more than a C rated tire on a half ton.

Even if you pull a heavy travel trailer?

Absolutely.

The wheels on your truck are only rated to carry so much weight,and hold so much PSI. If the wheels are rated to carry 2500lbs and hold 50 PSI,whats the point of buying a tire that will carry 3500 and take 80 PSI?  You can't air the tire up to their full potential and like I said,they aren't any more puncture resistant.

The factory sized and rated tires on a truck are enough to carry/haul whatever the truck is designed for. If your trailer is heavy enough that you're concerned that the factory tire ratings aren't enough,you probably need a different truck. 

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Re: What tires?
« Reply #31 on: April 12, 2013, 11:17:32 AM »
I really like my toyo open country mt's.

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Re: What tires?
« Reply #32 on: April 12, 2013, 11:17:55 AM »
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You're wasting your money putting any more than a C rated tire on a half ton.

Even if you pull a heavy travel trailer?

Absolutely.

The wheels on your truck are only rated to carry so much weight,and hold so much PSI. If the wheels are rated to carry 2500lbs and hold 50 PSI,whats the point of buying a tire that will carry 3500 and take 80 PSI?  You can't air the tire up to their full potential and like I said,they aren't any more puncture resistant.

The factory sized and rated tires on a truck are enough to carry/haul whatever the truck is designed for. If your trailer is heavy enough that you're concerned that the factory tire ratings aren't enough,you probably need a different truck.

The stock tires on my truck only lasted until the first time I drove it off the pavement. A nice gravel road, and I only made it about a mile before a rear tire went completely flat from a rock puncture right through the tread.

Maybe the tires I have now are overkill, but I've never had a flat tire. I never inflate them over 60 pounds, and normally run them at 35 unless I'm hauling something.

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Re: What tires?
« Reply #33 on: April 12, 2013, 11:24:46 AM »
If you guys really want to know how much air pressure the tires on your truck need,it'll take about 5 minutes to get done.

Swing in to any of the DOT scales on the side of the highway. Even if the scales are "closed",99% of the time,they leave the scale on and its a matter of looking in their window to get the weights. 

Write down the weight on each axle,and when you get home call whichever tire manufacturer built the tires on your truck. They'll have a capacity chart for each size tire they produce.

The OEM tires on my 2500HD are E rated. To carry the max weight,the tire needs 80psi. In my case 65psi is sufficient to carry the actual weight on the rear axle of the unloaded truck as well as the 2000lb pin weight of my fifth wheel. For a bit of margin,I run the rear tires at 70psi. The fronts only need 55psi to carry the weight on the front axle.

In my case running the rears at 80 while towing wouldn't hurt,but really isn't beneficial. Whether I'm towing or not,running the fronts at 80 would wear the centers out of the tread.

When I'm not towing I run the rears at 50.  Its enough to carry the weight on an empty rear axle,and has two benefits. Less psi produces better traction,and your teeth don't rattle out of your head with the stiff ride.

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Re: What tires?
« Reply #34 on: April 12, 2013, 11:31:18 AM »
Duratracs!  Great all around tire.  Snow traction is as good as it gets too.  Great on street after they break in.  Not too pricey. Not sure about mileage, it depends. Maybe 40k?
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Re: What tires?
« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2013, 11:34:00 AM »
My Ford has BFG All-Terrains, which for a factory tire has held up better than any factory tire before.  I've had factory tires go bad in the first 5,000 miles so I often trade them out to start with, but the BFGs are doing good so far.  I've had good luck with some of the Cooper's and Toyo's also.  Toyo M-55 probably lasts as long or longer than any others for me, but that's because I drive primarily on gravel.
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Re: What tires?
« Reply #36 on: April 12, 2013, 11:39:07 AM »
If you guys really want to know how much air pressure the tires on your truck need,it'll take about 5 minutes to get done.

Swing in to any of the DOT scales on the side of the highway. Even if the scales are "closed",99% of the time,they leave the scale on and its a matter of looking in their window to get the weights. 

Write down the weight on each axle,and when you get home call whichever tire manufacturer built the tires on your truck. They'll have a capacity chart for each size tire they produce.

The OEM tires on my 2500HD are E rated. To carry the max weight,the tire needs 80psi. In my case 65psi is sufficient to carry the actual weight on the rear axle of the unloaded truck as well as the 2000lb pin weight of my fifth wheel. For a bit of margin,I run the rear tires at 70psi. The fronts only need 55psi to carry the weight on the front axle.

In my case running the rears at 80 while towing wouldn't hurt,but really isn't beneficial. Whether I'm towing or not,running the fronts at 80 would wear the centers out of the tread.

When I'm not towing I run the rears at 50.  Its enough to carry the weight on an empty rear axle,and has two benefits. Less psi produces better traction,and your teeth don't rattle out of your head with the stiff ride.
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Exactly, well said Rick!
With my 4500# camper on my dually, I run 70 psi in the rears and 60 in the fronts.
When I have the horse trailer attached, via weight distribution hitch, I run 75 in the rear and 65 in the front.
All of the above has been calculated via scaled axle weights. Those air psi's are about across the board 5psi more than the math plays out.  I found that the truck just simply drives better, the tread surface temperature is cooler and it doesn't hunt the ruts of the freeway like it does with a little lower air psi.
Empty drive around town weight, 40 in the rears and 55 in the fronts.

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Re: What tires?
« Reply #37 on: April 12, 2013, 11:40:41 AM »
Gots BFG all terain load E. Came from Disscount Tire with 50,000 mile guarantee with the penney head for a depth guage. If the head shows at or before 50G. Free tires!!!!! :IBCOOL:   
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Re: What tires?
« Reply #38 on: April 12, 2013, 11:45:26 AM »
Gots BFG all terain load E. Came from Disscount Tire with 50,000 mile guarantee with the penney head for a depth guage. If the head shows at or before 50G. Free tires!!!!! :IBCOOL:

Shocking if that is actually how it would play out.  I don't know how they could stand behind that if that were true. Do you have to go there every 5k miles for rotations in order to maintain that?  So many possibilities for poorly maintained tires on the owner's behalf. Are you sure it's not a manufacturer's defect warranty?
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Re: What tires?
« Reply #39 on: April 12, 2013, 11:52:54 AM »
When i bought them thats what the sales guy said. Rotation every 5G. Give em a call and see if they tell you different? It was the Bonney Lake store.
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Re: What tires?
« Reply #40 on: April 12, 2013, 12:03:00 PM »
Fill them with helium so your truck floats down the road...... :chuckle:
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Re: What tires?
« Reply #41 on: April 12, 2013, 01:14:47 PM »
Gots BFG all terain load E. Came from Disscount Tire with 50,000 mile guarantee with the penney head for a depth guage. If the head shows at or before 50G. Free tires!!!!! :IBCOOL:

Shocking if that is actually how it would play out.  I don't know how they could stand behind that if that were true. Do you have to go there every 5k miles for rotations in order to maintain that?  So many possibilities for poorly maintained tires on the owner's behalf. Are you sure it's not a manufacturer's defect warranty?

Jackelope is on it. Mileage warranties are pro-rated. You don't get a free set of tires. You get a discount on a replacement set.

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Re: What tires?
« Reply #42 on: April 12, 2013, 01:18:52 PM »
I really like my toyo open country mt's.

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Re: What tires?
« Reply #43 on: April 12, 2013, 01:30:32 PM »
Fill them with helium so your truck floats down the road...... :chuckle:
:yeah: Really extends the life of the tread to.
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Re: What tires?
« Reply #44 on: April 12, 2013, 02:15:51 PM »
When i bought them thats what the sales guy said. Rotation every 5G. Give em a call and see if they tell you different? It was the Bonney Lake store.

I don't have time to call them. I'm not a tire expert and don't have a ton of tire experience. I have a little, and we sell them. I've never seen a tire warranty based on wear. I have based on a manufacturer's defect, but not wear. As Rick said, there may be  a pro-rate too. I just don't know of a warranty based on wear that you'd get free tires because your old ones wore out. You may want to call and verify that is the case so there are no surprises once your tires are worn out.
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