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Title: Civil war battle lines being drawn as Gun MFG move to Pro Constitutanal states
Post by: Special T on April 18, 2013, 11:50:14 AM
http://www.naturalnews.com/039897_civil_war_battle_lines_gun_manufacturers.html (http://www.naturalnews.com/039897_civil_war_battle_lines_gun_manufacturers.html)


(NaturalNews) A civil war looks likely to break out in America, and it will pit gun rights advocates (people who love liberty) against gun control zealots (people who hate freedom and love tyranny). The battle lines are being drawn right now as gun manufacturers are leaving anti-Constitution states like Connecticut and Colorado and relocating to pro-Constitution states like Texas and Arizona.

Why does this matter? Because in effect, the anti-Constitution states are disarming themselves by expatriating weapons manufacturers. Thus, they are eliminating their own weapons infrastructure and leaving themselves relatively defenseless should a civil war occur.


Title: Re: Civil war battle lines being drawn as Gun MFG move to Pro Constitutanal states
Post by: Special T on April 18, 2013, 11:55:24 AM
This is a pretty hard core article, but what i like about it is how many of these states that are moving away from freedom are loosing in many ways... The old addage of "In america ther is a gun behind every blade of grass" may soon only be in certain parts of the US.
Title: Re: Civil war battle lines being drawn as Gun MFG move to Pro Constitutanal states
Post by: WSU on April 18, 2013, 11:57:02 AM
That is the dumbest thing I've heard concerning the recent gun control measures.
Title: Re: Civil war battle lines being drawn as Gun MFG move to Pro Constitutanal states
Post by: nocklehead on April 18, 2013, 12:07:50 PM
funny, WA wasnt on either the pro or anti lists...

If that situation DID occur, which is unlikely, those "disarmed" states would likely get help from a bunch of AIDS patients in light blue uniforms....also known as UN troops.
Title: Re: Civil war battle lines being drawn as Gun MFG move to Pro Constitutanal states
Post by: magnanimous_j on April 18, 2013, 12:29:09 PM
I read that whole article twice through with the biggest smile on my face. That was one of the stupidest things I have ever read. The earnestness is what really set it apart though. His insistence that his political opponents were enemy combatants, traitors, and “lovers of tyranny” (my favorite) just turned the stupid up to 11 and broke the knob off. The bit in the end about homeschooling was the cherry on the sundae though.

I’m going to have to start following his twitter feed.
Title: Re: Civil war battle lines being drawn as Gun MFG move to Pro Constitutanal states
Post by: snowpack on April 18, 2013, 12:41:44 PM
Also consider that population shift trends have more people moving to the south and southwest, and leaving the Midwest and northeast.  So, with the population will go the redistricting for the House.  More house votes controlled by gun friendlier states that will be housing the gun industry.  The assumption being that the states don't start getting too liberal....like Washington has been from the influx of transplants.
Title: Re: Civil war battle lines being drawn as Gun MFG move to Pro Constitutanal states
Post by: Crunchy on April 18, 2013, 12:53:20 PM
That article was good for a morning laugh.  I pitty the poor gent who wrote that if he actually believes most of what he wrote.  They must be having a sale on tin foil hats somewhere  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Civil war battle lines being drawn as Gun MFG move to Pro Constitutanal states
Post by: Special T on April 18, 2013, 02:37:19 PM
It is pretty funny how almost eager this guy was for a civil war, 99% of most people woudl want anything but one. Mabe I should find a more toned down article that talks about the ability of people to flee goverment overreach by moving to a differtn state.... I'm glad it made a few of you guys  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Civil war battle lines being drawn as Gun MFG move to Pro Constitutanal states
Post by: christopheri on April 19, 2013, 05:26:28 AM
Good grief!  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Civil war battle lines being drawn as Gun MFG move to Pro Constitutanal states
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on April 19, 2013, 07:31:35 AM
Not as far-fetched as you think.  A few of the comments are funny, but most of it sounds true.  I've lived long enough to see the change in the country.  Most of you haven't.
Title: Re: Civil war battle lines being drawn as Gun MFG move to Pro Constitutanal states
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on April 19, 2013, 07:40:20 AM
Not as far-fetched as you think.  A few of the comments are funny, but most of it sounds true.  I've lived long enough to see the change in the country.  Most of you haven't.

Used to be a GREAT place didn't it?
Title: Re: Civil war battle lines being drawn as Gun MFG move to Pro Constitutanal states
Post by: Special T on April 19, 2013, 07:43:42 AM
I think many of your responses a great.... I was using absurdity to prove a point, and i got kinds of responses from many of you i figured i would.
Title: Re: Civil war battle lines being drawn as Gun MFG move to Pro Constitutanal states
Post by: 3nails on April 19, 2013, 08:24:21 AM
I read that whole article twice through with the biggest smile on my face. That was one of the stupidest things I have ever read. The earnestness is what really set it apart though. His insistence that his political opponents were enemy combatants, traitors, and “lovers of tyranny” (my favorite) just turned the stupid up to 11 and broke the knob off. The bit in the end about homeschooling was the cherry on the sundae though.

I’m going to have to start following his twitter feed.
What was it about the homeschooling comment that put the cherry on the sundae?
Title: Re: Civil war battle lines being drawn as Gun MFG move to Pro Constitutanal states
Post by: magnanimous_j on April 19, 2013, 09:14:06 AM
What was it about the homeschooling comment that put the cherry on the sundae?

I went to several small, Christian schools from grade 4-12. A lot of home schooled kids came and went during that time and I now consider it one of the meanest things you can possibly do to your kid. First off, some of them were VERY book smart (as is the stereotype). However, some of them were dumb a sticks and didn’t know anything. Almost ALL had huge problems socializing and relating to other kids, having spent their developmental years in their weird family microcosm. Generally what would happen is the boys would get really rude as a defense mechanism, and the girls would either get really shy or in some cases, dangerously promiscuous, being unused to any male attention and having zero skills in dealing with it. I felt bad for them.

Anyway, being the close knit, tiny schools that they were, all the families knew each other and most of the Home School parents were total whack jobs. Weird anti-government types (it was the Clinton years), NWO conspiracy nuts, almost open racists, creepy cultists (with optional sexual abuse package), and a generous smattering of good old fashioned idiots. We car pooled with one family who got mad at me for insisting that exoplanets existed and “was this close” to pulling her kids from the school because she thought that DNA didn’t really exist and was a lie meant to propagate the fallacy of evolution. Oh yeah, and drums were designed to put you into a trance so the devil would have an easier time getting into your soul.  Even Christian rock was pure uncut evil. She made us listen to these grainy tapes of organ music and Church choirs. Not even cool Church music like the monks chanting and those haunting hymns from the early middle ages.

My point being, when you are so fringe that even our hyper-conservative little Christian schools were too liberal for you, the problem is not society, it’s you. It’s people who are terrified of the world passing it on to their kids, who will inevitably suffer because of it. So when I read this article from this guy who was busting his zipper at the thought of a civil war and then threw in the bit about home schooling, I thought “Yup, that figures.”

I assume since you took issue with my comment, you either home school or are thinking about it. In all seriousness, please consider the negatives. I’ll tell you a hundred stories if you want to hear them.
Title: Re: Civil war battle lines being drawn as Gun MFG move to Pro Constitutanal states
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on April 19, 2013, 09:40:25 AM
Not as far-fetched as you think.  A few of the comments are funny, but most of it sounds true.  I've lived long enough to see the change in the country.  Most of you haven't.

Used to be a GREAT place didn't it?

Yes, and it always struck me as funny that my grandparents, who were European Immigrants (legal) had a better knowledge of their Constitutional rights than the people born here.
Title: Re: Civil war battle lines being drawn as Gun MFG move to Pro Constitutanal states
Post by: buckfvr on April 19, 2013, 09:41:27 AM
Not as far-fetched as you think.  A few of the comments are funny, but most of it sounds true.  I've lived long enough to see the change in the country.  Most of you haven't.

 :yeah:

I know many, many guys who echo this thought.......its coming, and its inevitable.    To think otherwise, is missing all the signs.  Gun Control is ultimately about disarming America.......that will be the trigger.   :twocents: 

Title: Re: Civil war battle lines being drawn as Gun MFG move to Pro Constitutanal states
Post by: magnanimous_j on April 19, 2013, 09:55:02 AM
Not as far-fetched as you think.  A few of the comments are funny, but most of it sounds true.  I've lived long enough to see the change in the country.  Most of you haven't.

 :yeah:

I know many, many guys who echo this thought...

As a person gets older, they slowly lose touch with the mainstream culture. Fashions and trends start to become foreign to them; scary. It becomes very easy to start thinking of the culture as deteriorating and the past, when they were synced with it, as a better time. Nostalgia can be comforting, but it can also be a self-defeating mechanism that ignores the problems of the past and treats the future with anxiety and dread, instead of viewing it as opportunity, which it is.

Some people born in 1890 viewed the 50’s as the end of times. But if you were born in the 30’s or 40’s, the 50’s were the golden age today. One day, old people will complain that no one makes good music like Kesha and Skrillex anymore. Likewise, there were old men in the 1880 who thought the telegraph was only good for pornography and the government bossing them around.

Same as it ever was.
Title: Re: Civil war battle lines being drawn as Gun MFG move to Pro Constitutanal states
Post by: Special T on April 19, 2013, 10:12:24 AM
As people get older they think about HISTORY. History repeats itself normally just outside of a life span or 2... While i agree that nestalge is comforting and can be a crutch it can also be a valuable teacher... There is a saying "a smart man learns from his mistakes, a wise man learns fro the mistakes of others."

I agree that this writer is out there on the edge, and could be a home schooler.
Like you i have had a bit of experience with home schoolers. IMO there are 2 disticnt crowds. Those who want to put in the work so that thier kids get a superior education, and those who are homeschoolers because thier kids are no longer allowed to attend for some reason... LOTs of kids that have behavioral probles are in the home schooling program.   On eof the kids i grew up in came from a home school family but ended up going to highschool. He was smart as whip, and it took him some time to adjust. I would consider him and his brothers a perfect model of how home schooling could work.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Civil war battle lines being drawn as Gun MFG move to Pro Constitutanal states
Post by: buckfvr on April 19, 2013, 10:19:01 AM
And then there's those who haven't lived long enough to learn from lifes experiences,  to go along with having had common sense educated out of them.
Title: Re: Civil war battle lines being drawn as Gun MFG move to Pro Constitutanal states
Post by: Worldhunter on April 19, 2013, 10:27:10 AM
Pretty ridiculous article and post. Be careful what you post online, you may end up on a government crazy list.
Title: Re: Civil war battle lines being drawn as Gun MFG move to Pro Constitutanal states
Post by: 3nails on April 19, 2013, 10:54:21 AM
What was it about the homeschooling comment that put the cherry on the sundae?

I went to several small, Christian schools from grade 4-12. A lot of home schooled kids came and went during that time and I now consider it one of the meanest things you can possibly do to your kid. First off, some of them were VERY book smart (as is the stereotype). However, some of them were dumb a sticks and didn’t know anything. Almost ALL had huge problems socializing and relating to other kids, having spent their developmental years in their weird family microcosm. Generally what would happen is the boys would get really rude as a defense mechanism, and the girls would either get really shy or in some cases, dangerously promiscuous, being unused to any male attention and having zero skills in dealing with it. I felt bad for them.

Anyway, being the close knit, tiny schools that they were, all the families knew each other and most of the Home School parents were total whack jobs. Weird anti-government types (it was the Clinton years), NWO conspiracy nuts, almost open racists, creepy cultists (with optional sexual abuse package), and a generous smattering of good old fashioned idiots. We car pooled with one family who got mad at me for insisting that exoplanets existed and “was this close” to pulling her kids from the school because she thought that DNA didn’t really exist and was a lie meant to propagate the fallacy of evolution. Oh yeah, and drums were designed to put you into a trance so the devil would have an easier time getting into your soul.  Even Christian rock was pure uncut evil. She made us listen to these grainy tapes of organ music and Church choirs. Not even cool Church music like the monks chanting and those haunting hymns from the early middle ages.

My point being, when you are so fringe that even our hyper-conservative little Christian schools were too liberal for you, the problem is not society, it’s you. It’s people who are terrified of the world passing it on to their kids, who will inevitably suffer because of it. So when I read this article from this guy who was busting his zipper at the thought of a civil war and then threw in the bit about home schooling, I thought “Yup, that figures.”

I assume since you took issue with my comment, you either home school or are thinking about it. In all seriousness, please consider the negatives. I’ll tell you a hundred stories if you want to hear them.
I took no issue at all with your comment. I was just curious. Thank you for the reply.
Title: Re: Civil war battle lines being drawn as Gun MFG move to Pro Constitutanal states
Post by: Bean Counter on April 19, 2013, 11:03:07 AM
What was it about the homeschooling comment that put the cherry on the sundae?

I went to several small, Christian schools from grade 4-12. A lot of home schooled kids came and went during that time and I now consider it one of the meanest things you can possibly do to your kid. First off, some of them were VERY book smart (as is the stereotype). However, some of them were dumb a sticks and didn’t know anything. Almost ALL had huge problems socializing and relating to other kids, having spent their developmental years in their weird family microcosm. Generally what would happen is the boys would get really rude as a defense mechanism, and the girls would either get really shy or in some cases, dangerously promiscuous, being unused to any male attention and having zero skills in dealing with it. I felt bad for them.....

Homeschooling has changed a lot, Maggy. With the advent of the internet not only are curriculums much better but there is much more networking amongst homeschooling families. Many that I know of arrange co-op days once a week where their kids get to interact, and then they do field trips and activity days on top of that. Socialization with one's peers (or lack there of) used to be a blight to homeschooling, but IMHO I'll take it over indoctrination into secularl liberalism in the pubic school system anyday.  :twocents:

Nevertheless, my children are mine. I will make the educational decision about them that I see fit. They are not yours, and they are not the communities.  Contrast that with America's leftists, who after slaughtering their own children in abortion mills, now want to claim ownership of mine. View this scripted, reviewed, and approved message from MSNBC.  Note how it wasn't an off the cuff comment in a speech, but obviously something that was produced and likely reviewed by at least someone in management.

MSNBC Host Melissa Harris-Perry » All Your Kids Belong To Us (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3qtpdSQox0#ws)
Title: Re: Civil war battle lines being drawn as Gun MFG move to Pro Constitutanal states
Post by: Special T on April 19, 2013, 01:33:12 PM
LOL I like the "Lean Forward" a the end...  :chuckle: Should i be asking what comes next?  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Civil war battle lines being drawn as Gun MFG move to Pro Constitutanal states
Post by: snowpack on April 19, 2013, 01:34:48 PM
LOL I like the "Lean Forward" a the end...  :chuckle: Should i be asking what comes next?  :chuckle:
Lean Forward is PC speak for Bend Over......
Title: Re: Civil war battle lines being drawn as Gun MFG move to Pro Constitutanal states
Post by: Heredoggydoggy on April 19, 2013, 09:49:42 PM
LOL I like the "Lean Forward" a the end...  :chuckle: Should i be asking what comes next?  :chuckle:
Lean Forward is PC speak for Bend Over......

Or to be specific--Bend Over And Grab Your Ankles....  :chuckle:  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Civil war battle lines being drawn as Gun MFG move to Pro Constitutanal states
Post by: csaaphill on April 23, 2013, 04:15:13 PM
Good stuff hell ya traitors all. Love that language myself.
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