Post by: luvmystang67 on April 23, 2013, 08:22:31 AM
I'm sure someone on here knows. A little help? :dunno:
Post by: jackelope on April 23, 2013, 08:27:33 AM
:twocents:
p.s. I don't think there's any law. I see people with guns in gun racks now and then. I just can't help but wonder what they do with them when they park to go into a store or something.
Post by: Woodchuck on April 23, 2013, 08:30:38 AM
Post by: jackelope on April 23, 2013, 08:33:14 AM
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and a "Ain't nothin in this truck worth dyin for" sticker as well.
Maybe that's what I need.
I can understand a gun rack when you're hunting or doing something gun related like going shooting or something along those lines but, aside from "just because they can", I could never understand why people drive around with a gun rack full of guns in their back window. There's a lot better places to store guns, even inside your truck.
Post by: 6x6in6 on April 23, 2013, 08:35:13 AM
No law that I am aware of.
Prefer not to advertise with the rack in use or not, so it does not exist. No stickers or other decorations either. I'd just a soon do everything I can to fly under the radar.
Post by: luvmystang67 on April 23, 2013, 08:50:47 AM
Post by: Woodchuck on April 23, 2013, 08:51:41 AM
I have the sleeves that hang off the back of the front seats for gun storage during the season.Quoteand a "Ain't nothin in this truck worth dyin for" sticker as well.
Maybe that's what I need.
I can understand a gun rack when you're hunting or doing something gun related like going shooting or something along those lines but, aside from "just because they can", I could never understand why people drive around with a gun rack full of guns in their back window. There's a lot better places to store guns, even inside your truck.
Post by: bobcat on April 23, 2013, 09:21:16 AM
Even in other vehicles with more interior space, such as Suburbans, I think a gun rack was just something you were expected to have if you were a hunter.
But nowadays, I agree, it's just not smart to advertise that you have guns. I also do not put any kind of sticker that would let someone know that I'm a hunter or a gun owner. So no NRA, RMEF, DU, MDF, or Hunt-Wa stickers for me.
Post by: Skillet on April 23, 2013, 09:24:23 AM
Post by: 6x6in6 on April 23, 2013, 09:26:25 AM
And in the school parking lot every truck had one with a gun in it.:yeah:
I have fond memories of driving my 68 chev C-20 to school in the late 70's with a 30-06 and a 12 gauge in the rack. Bailing out during lunch time to go duck or deer hunting.
Nobody locked their car up either.
Post by: seth30 on April 23, 2013, 09:26:59 AM
Post by: snowpack on April 23, 2013, 10:45:52 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 23, 2013, 11:30:30 AM
Post by: CP on April 23, 2013, 11:44:45 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 23, 2013, 11:52:39 AM
And in the school parking lot every truck had one with a gun in it.
When I was in high school, I threw the .30-30 Model 94 in the back on the way to school so I could hunt after school. We'd be out in the lot showing each other our guns and talking about where we'd hunt. Imagine that today. :yike:
Post by: snowpack on April 23, 2013, 12:04:08 PM
You'd probably be taken out by a drone or a SWAT team (more likely a SWAT battalion :chuckle: ). Then the news shows would refer to you as right wing 2A nutjob and post your worst pictures all over.And in the school parking lot every truck had one with a gun in it.
When I was in high school, I threw the .30-30 Model 94 in the back on the way to school so I could hunt after school. We'd be out in the lot showing each other our guns and talking about where we'd hunt. Imagine that today. :yike:
Post by: sirmissalot on April 23, 2013, 12:09:02 PM
There is a law, at least with regards to leaving a concealed pistol, that it must be kept out of sight locked in the vehicle.
Pretty sure that law applies to all firearms, they aren't supposed to be left in plain open view unattended.
I would never leave one in the rack but it would be handy to keep one there while hunting, my Toyota doesn't have a lot of extra room for a rifle or bow. I looked for one for a while but gave up and bought one of the holders that goes on the back of my front seats.
Post by: Special T on April 23, 2013, 12:09:44 PM
I think its illegal in King county to have them displayed in a gun rack...
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 23, 2013, 12:18:02 PM
You'd probably be taken out by a drone or a SWAT team (more likely a SWAT battalion :chuckle: ). Then the news shows would refer to you as right wing 2A nutjob and post your worst pictures all over.And in the school parking lot every truck had one with a gun in it.
When I was in high school, I threw the .30-30 Model 94 in the back on the way to school so I could hunt after school. We'd be out in the lot showing each other our guns and talking about where we'd hunt. Imagine that today. :yike:
But I am a right wing, 2A nutjob. I don't have any bad pictures, though. I look awesome in everything!
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on April 23, 2013, 12:24:48 PM
I want the overhead model:
is this a custom gun holder? if not where did you buy it?
Post by: boneaddict on April 23, 2013, 12:27:41 PM
Post by: JLS on April 23, 2013, 12:29:43 PM
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on April 23, 2013, 12:34:50 PM
And in the school parking lot every truck had one with a gun in it.
When I was in high school, I threw the .30-30 Model 94 in the back on the way to school so I could hunt after school. We'd be out in the lot showing each other our guns and talking about where we'd hunt. Imagine that today. :yike:
yep, that was me aswell back in the day!
Post by: bobcat on April 23, 2013, 12:37:22 PM
Post by: KopperBuck on April 23, 2013, 12:40:31 PM
Our ranch rigs still run them, but our drivers don't - extended and crew cabs.
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 23, 2013, 12:46:00 PM
I've never heard of any law that says guns need to be hidden in a vehicle. Sure it may be a good idea to keep them out of sight, but let's not make up imaginary laws that don't exist.
Just because you've never heard of it doesn't mean it's made up.
RCW 9.41.050
Carrying firearms.
(2)(a) A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any vehicle unless the person has a license to carry a concealed pistol and: (i) The pistol is on the licensee's person, (ii) the licensee is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there, or (iii) the licensee is away from the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.
And I did specify that the law applied to at least pistols.
Post by: bobcat on April 23, 2013, 12:48:39 PM
Post by: Caseyd on April 23, 2013, 12:55:28 PM
Our ranch rigs still run them, but our drivers don't - extended and crew cabs.
Same here, mostly o rings, gate keys etc
Post by: luvmystang67 on April 23, 2013, 02:44:38 PM
I've never heard of any law that says guns need to be hidden in a vehicle. Sure it may be a good idea to keep them out of sight, but let's not make up imaginary laws that don't exist.
Just because you've never heard of it doesn't mean it's made up.
RCW 9.41.050
Carrying firearms.
(2)(a) A person shall not carry or place a loaded pistol in any vehicle unless the person has a license to carry a concealed pistol and: (i) The pistol is on the licensee's person, (ii) the licensee is within the vehicle at all times that the pistol is there, or (iii) the licensee is away from the vehicle and the pistol is locked within the vehicle and concealed from view from outside the vehicle.
And I did specify that the law applied to at least pistols.
This law is correct and applies ONLY to pistols kept loaded in a motor vehicle, enabled by owning a CPL. To keep a loaded pistol in your vehicle without a CPL would already be illegal, so no law needed there. I'm not sure what the law would be if you had an unloaded pistol in plain view without a CPL. I think legally that is acceptable, but I'm sure you'd lose your court case, mostly for being dumb.
I have never seen a law pertaining to rifles or non-CPL pistols.
Thanks for your input.
Post by: bobcat on April 23, 2013, 02:52:52 PM
Post by: snowpack on April 23, 2013, 02:57:33 PM
Kind of getting off topic here but just to clarify even further, it is legal to have a loaded handgun in a vehicle if you are going to, or coming from, any outdoor recreational activity (hunting for example.) A CPL is not needed in this situation.I think it is legal to carry concealed when engaged in those activities when not in a vehicle. Once it enters the vehicle a CPL is needed if it is loaded.
Post by: NW-GSP on April 23, 2013, 03:00:45 PM
Kind of getting off topic here but just to clarify even further, it is legal to have a loaded handgun in a vehicle if you are going to, or coming from, any outdoor recreational activity (hunting for example.) A CPL is not needed in this situation.I think it is legal to carry concealed when engaged in those activities when not in a vehicle. Once it enters the vehicle a CPL is needed if it is loaded.
WRONG- read bobcats post, he is correct. It is even written in the little green book they give you when you get your cpl.
Post by: luvmystang67 on April 23, 2013, 03:11:41 PM
Kind of getting off topic here but just to clarify even further, it is legal to have a loaded handgun in a vehicle if you are going to, or coming from, any outdoor recreational activity (hunting for example.) A CPL is not needed in this situation.I think it is legal to carry concealed when engaged in those activities when not in a vehicle. Once it enters the vehicle a CPL is needed if it is loaded.
WRONG- read bobcats post, he is correct. It is even written in the little green book they give you when you get your cpl.
I second this motion, that is technically correct. Now you just have to prove it in courts if you get caught. I've seen the verbiage, that is what is written.
Post by: csaaphill on April 23, 2013, 04:07:31 PM
Post by: Windwalker on April 23, 2013, 06:52:00 PM
Years ago was comfortable doing a fill up and if no one around, would lock it and do a quick in-and-out for junk food or whatever if I could keep visual contact while dodging into a 7/11 type store. - situational awareness is omnipotent as always -
Now I don't feel comfortable doing it & won't leave guns without a look-out posted.
I also leave a 'special' note visible when out hunting due to the electronics aboard that hasn't failed me yet. I don't have much confidence in it, but makes me feel a little better.
- We may be out of sight but we are not out of range -
Remember taking guns to school and leaving them in the rear window rack many times so we could light out on a hunt after school or show off our latest purchase and no one thought anything of it.
Times have sure changed so now-
Have two of these http://www.fas1safe.com/main.sc (http://www.fas1safe.com/main.sc) ( I highly recommend them - built like a tank)
And (can't have too much storage) pondering one of these http://www.consolevault.com/secret-safe.html (http://www.consolevault.com/secret-safe.html) & maybe a console setup in one of the rigs.
Now we are contemplating a more secure set up like this. http://www.truckvault.com/ (http://www.truckvault.com/) Spendy but secure storage if done right and due to the recent break in's at matches down south think its time to step up.
I don't have the link handy but not to long ago at one of the high level match's vandals had permeated the area waiting for out of state competitors with expensive match guns to drop their vigilance, broke into quite a few vehicles and left them high and dry without guns for the match. Some were at restaurants and some ran into the store for a minute too long. Rated high on the suck factor scale.
Post by: brush hunter on April 25, 2013, 05:58:40 AM
It could be coming
Post by: Bofire on April 25, 2013, 06:56:49 PM
Carl
Post by: CP on April 25, 2013, 07:12:18 PM
:) I think Seattle or King county has an ordinance about "opaque" cases, but am not sure.
Carl
No.
RCW 9.41.290
State preemption.
The state of Washington hereby fully occupies and preempts the entire field of firearms regulation within the boundaries of the state, including the registration, licensing, possession, purchase, sale, acquisition, transfer, discharge, and transportation of firearms, or any other element relating to firearms or parts thereof, including ammunition and reloader components. Cities, towns, and counties or other municipalities may enact only those laws and ordinances relating to firearms that are specifically authorized by state law, as in RCW 9.41.300, and are consistent with this chapter. Such local ordinances shall have the same penalty as provided for by state law. Local laws and ordinances that are inconsistent with, more restrictive than, or exceed the requirements of state law shall not be enacted and are preempted and repealed, regardless of the nature of the code, charter, or home rule status of such city, town, county, or municipality.
Post by: JJD on April 29, 2013, 09:01:21 AM
You'd probably be taken out by a drone or a SWAT team (more likely a SWAT battalion :chuckle: ). Then the news shows would refer to you as right wing 2A nutjob and post your worst pictures all over.And in the school parking lot every truck had one with a gun in it.
When I was in high school, I threw the .30-30 Model 94 in the back on the way to school so I could hunt after school. We'd be out in the lot showing each other our guns and talking about where we'd hunt. Imagine that today. :yike:
But I am a right wing, 2A nutjob. I don't have any bad pictures, though. I look awesome in everything!
:yeah: If the shoe fits, wiggle your toes and enjoy the walk.
Post by: Gobble Gobble on April 29, 2013, 10:29:08 AM
Had a friend growing up who's dad a a rifle stolen from one while at deer camp. they were all out hunting and someone came into camp, broke into the truck and took the rifle.
Continuing the off topic subject. There are four states that have laws against truck gun racks and Washington is not one of them. Washington is an open carry state. You can display a rifle or shotgun in a vehicle all you want, however, it CANNOT be loaded while the vehicle is in motion. If you ask some Game Wardens just leaning a loaded rifle or shotgun against a motorized vehicle of any kind it is a violation and subject to a ticket. From my readings the only loaded firearm that can even touch a vehicle is a handgun and the owner must be in possesion of a CPL.
Here a couple good websites for information, but they mostly pertain to handguns.
washingtongunrights.com
opencarry.org
carryconcealed.net
Post by: ghosthunter on April 29, 2013, 11:13:06 AM
Kind of getting off topic here but just to clarify even further, it is legal to have a loaded handgun in a vehicle if you are going to, or coming from, any outdoor recreational activity (hunting for example.) A CPL is not needed in this situation.I think it is legal to carry concealed when engaged in those activities when not in a vehicle. Once it enters the vehicle a CPL is needed if it is loaded.
Wow at least 3 or 4 threads on this this year and still comes up. Bobcat wins on this one.
Post by: ghosthunter on April 29, 2013, 11:16:08 AM
:) I think Seattle or King county has an ordinance about "opaque" cases, but am not sure.
Carl
Read the Preemption post in blue.
No one,city,state,county can pass any gun law stricter than state law.
The legislature is the only ones who can write gun laws.
Post by: ghosthunter on April 29, 2013, 11:24:22 AM
As far as stickers I have pro gun stickers. I refuse to live in fear that some scum bag will break in to my truck. They win if you allow them to influnce your life.
Post by: Special T on April 30, 2013, 07:46:37 AM
:) I think Seattle or King county has an ordinance about "opaque" cases, but am not sure.
Carl
Read the Preemption post in blue.
No one,city,state,county can pass any gun law stricter than state law.
The legislature is the only ones who can write gun laws.
Thats why Seattle passes laws prohibiting guns from parks right? :chuckle:
Post by: Hermannr on April 30, 2013, 11:06:29 PM
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This law is correct and applies ONLY to pistols kept loaded in a motor vehicle, enabled by owning a CPL. To keep a loaded pistol in your vehicle without a CPL would already be illegal, so no law needed there. I'm not sure what the law would be if you had an unloaded pistol in plain view without a CPL. I think legally that is acceptable, but I'm sure you'd lose your court case, mostly for being dumb.
I have never seen a law pertaining to rifles or non-CPL pistols.
Thanks for your input.
You can have a loaded pistol in your vehicle without a CPL, go look at RCW 9.41.060 especially (8) as well as the others, but as we are on a hunting forum, (8) would be most fitting.
Post by: motg9_6 on May 01, 2013, 06:48:08 AM
Post by: ghosthunter on May 01, 2013, 07:08:31 AM
:) I think Seattle or King county has an ordinance about "opaque" cases, but am not sure.
Carl
Read the Preemption post in blue.
No one,city,state,county can pass any gun law stricter than state law.
The legislature is the only ones who can write gun laws.
Thats why Seattle passes laws prohibiting guns from parks right? :chuckle:
You might read up a little bit. Seattle tried to ban carry in its parks. Got shot down by the state Supreme court shortly afterwards.
Post by: KLR_Carl on May 07, 2018, 09:38:33 PM
https://www.amazon.com/Great-Day-QD800-Quick-Draw-Rack/dp/B00B2SF5KO/ref=pd_sbs_263_1
Yes I added a lock.
Any ideas how to obscure the fact that these tall lumps next to my seat are rifles? Was thinking to sew up some sort of cover for when my buddies and I stop by a bar after a long day of chasing whitetails.