Post by: Old Man Yager on May 16, 2013, 07:02:12 AM
Post by: SniperDanWA on May 16, 2013, 07:15:24 AM
Post by: Old Man Yager on May 16, 2013, 07:19:39 AM
Post by: mrmoskillz on May 16, 2013, 07:35:53 AM
Post by: h20hunter on May 16, 2013, 07:38:54 AM
Post by: jackmaster on May 16, 2013, 07:45:00 AM
Post by: jackelope on May 16, 2013, 07:48:54 AM
Yea there was unfinished business on that thread. That guide was about to give a members Son a free hunt. Oh well maybe he will send him a PM.
If he wants to give a hunt, he can start a new thread. I doubt that will happen, but thats what he can do.
i wanted to know who his buddy was that is a coach for gk football....i wanted to ask whatever coach it was if this guy was full of it or not..... :dunno:Send him a pm.
There's 600+ posts a day on here. We don't have time to babysit one thread. That's probably why it was locked.
Post by: jackelope on May 16, 2013, 07:49:45 AM
Dang it, that's the best entertainment I've had in the past few days!!! I'll shut up now so I don't get 86'd from the forum!!!It would take a lot more than this to get 86'd from the forum. Just sayin...
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 16, 2013, 07:50:44 AM
Dang it, that's the best entertainment I've had in the past few days!!! I'll shut up now so I don't get 86'd from the forum!!!It would take a lot more than this to get 86'd from the forum. Just sayin...
Yep. You really have to act like a huge jerk before that happens.
Post by: b0bbyg on May 16, 2013, 08:24:16 AM
That thread reminded me of NASCAR,
Watching guys going in circles waiting for the crash :chuckle:
Post by: iRem on May 16, 2013, 08:32:02 AM
Post by: Bullkllr on May 16, 2013, 08:32:10 AM
I am looking into the hunt offer though.
I'll let everyone know what happens.
Post by: turkeyfeather on May 16, 2013, 08:39:30 AM
That's a pretty good analogy
That thread reminded me of NASCAR,
Watching guys going in circles waiting for the crash :chuckle:
Post by: iRem on May 16, 2013, 08:43:10 AM
There was really nowhere good that the thread was going.The Free hunt this year and pay next year?
I am looking into the hunt offer though.
I'll let everyone know what happens.
Post by: billdo5 on May 16, 2013, 08:55:30 AM
I wanted to get more into how Billdo hooked up with this joker! Two pees in a pod....Like peas and carrots :IBCOOL:
Post by: sirmissalot on May 16, 2013, 08:58:47 AM
Post by: billdo5 on May 16, 2013, 08:59:39 AM
Post by: iRem on May 16, 2013, 09:08:37 AM
Uncle actuallyNo really, what's the relation between you guys?
Post by: billdo5 on May 16, 2013, 09:10:05 AM
Post by: iRem on May 16, 2013, 09:13:51 AM
Post by: billdo5 on May 16, 2013, 09:14:36 AM
Post by: Broken Arrow on May 16, 2013, 09:14:42 AM
Post by: Bullkllr on May 16, 2013, 09:25:27 AM
There was really nowhere good that the thread was going.The Free hunt this year and pay next year?
I am looking into the hunt offer though.
I'll let everyone know what happens.
Yes.
If the offer still stands, I am willing to take him up on it.
We'll see.
Post by: iRem on May 16, 2013, 09:35:45 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 16, 2013, 09:40:31 AM
Post by: jackmaster on May 16, 2013, 10:12:27 AM
Post by: billdo5 on May 16, 2013, 10:13:54 AM
Post by: Band on May 16, 2013, 10:29:16 AM
I guess the nicest thing to say is that I suspect "Monster Bulls" is an exceptional hunter due to his year-around dedication to the pursuit (including during school days/hours). I hope he can find the time to enroll in school. My suggestion would be to start at the beginning writing course that we took in elementary school.
Seriously, I pity what a person must encounter day to day when they lack such basic communication skills.
Post by: mrmoskillz on May 16, 2013, 10:40:25 AM
The other thread was locked because it was 400 posts of picking on a forum member for his grammar and mostly unfounded allegations about his guiding. Why is this starting all over again? Enough is enough.
Here is my side of the story. I see a fellow hunt-wa member asking for reviews on a guide. He gets negative reviews that warn he might get burnt if he uses said guide.
Then the guide gets on and starts lying in his 1st few post imo (let a guy go and he hacked the website and miss spelled the words).
We all argue back and forth like family but when a outsider comes here with bs we all band together. (200 elk in 5 years is questionable imo)
I dont care if a guy can read or write but I do care if a fellow member gets ripped off.
The guide was trying to clear his name and we were listening and imo members were willing to give the guide a chance to do so.
There were members with valid unanswered questions that the guide might of liked to have the chance to answer when he got back from baiting.
I was one of the main ones poking fun and that was wrong. I did think the guide was made up at 1st but then figured out he was for real. He does have some nice pics of game and might be a hellofa hunter but now we may never know if he is a good guide or the worst that has lived bc the thread was locked...
Post by: jackelope on May 16, 2013, 10:40:38 AM
Yea there was unfinished business on that thread. That guide was about to give a members Son a free hunt. Oh well maybe he will send him a PM.
If he wants to give a hunt, he can start a new thread. I doubt that will happen, but thats what he can do.i wanted to know who his buddy was that is a coach for gk football....i wanted to ask whatever coach it was if this guy was full of it or not..... :dunno:Send him a pm.
There's 600+ posts a day on here. We don't have time to babysit one thread. That's probably why it was locked.
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 16, 2013, 10:42:44 AM
The other thread was locked because it was 400 posts of picking on a forum member for his grammar and mostly unfounded allegations about his guiding. Why is this starting all over again? Enough is enough.
Here is my side of the story. I see a fellow hunt-wa member asking for reviews on a guide. He gets negative reviews that warn he might get burnt if he uses said guide.
Then the guide gets on and starts lying in his 1st few post imo (let a guy go and he hacked the website and miss spelled the words).
We all argue back and forth like family but when a outsider comes here with bs we all band together. (200 elk in 5 years is questionable imo)
I dont care if a guy can read or write but I do care if a fellow member gets ripped off.
The guide was trying to clear his name and we were listening and imo members were willing to give the guide a chance to do so.
There were members with valid unanswered questions that the guide might of liked to have the chance to answer when he got back from baiting.
I was one of the main ones poking fun and that was wrong. I did think the guide was made up at 1st but then figured out he was for real. He does have some nice pics of game and might be a hellofa hunter but now we may never know if he is a good guide or the worst that has lived bc the thread was locked...
And, the information was provided and nothing new was being added.
Post by: billdo5 on May 16, 2013, 10:43:30 AM
Post by: mrmoskillz on May 16, 2013, 10:45:26 AM
Post by: jackelope on May 16, 2013, 10:48:05 AM
The other thread was locked because it was 400 posts of picking on a forum member for his grammar and mostly unfounded allegations about his guiding. Why is this starting all over again? Enough is enough.
Here is my side of the story. I see a fellow hunt-wa member asking for reviews on a guide. He gets negative reviews that warn he might get burnt if he uses said guide.
Then the guide gets on and starts lying in his 1st few post imo (let a guy go and he hacked the website and miss spelled the words).
We all argue back and forth like family but when a outsider comes here with bs we all band together. (200 elk in 5 years is questionable imo)
I dont care if a guy can read or write but I do care if a fellow member gets ripped off.
The guide was trying to clear his name and we were listening and imo members were willing to give the guide a chance to do so.
There were members with valid unanswered questions that the guide might of liked to have the chance to answer when he got back from baiting.
I was one of the main ones poking fun and that was wrong. I did think the guide was made up at 1st but then figured out he was for real. He does have some nice pics of game and might be a hellofa hunter but now we may never know if he is a good guide or the worst that has lived bc the thread was locked...
Just want to point out that it's clear to me that if one thread is locked, another one just starts up. The guy is a member and can still post. If he wants to post and clear up his name that has been run into the dirt here, then he can go for it.
If he doesn't want to post on here, I can't blame him. We all poked fun, which probably wasn't the best idea and could have run him off. I suspect that's likely not the case. My point is, just because the thread was locked does not mean the discussion is over. That's clearly evident by this thread.
Post by: jackelope on May 16, 2013, 10:49:09 AM
I dont see why it didnt get locked before he was a member... Then when someone tells him about it he becomes a member and then u lock it makes no sense
It was locked before he was a member. Then we saw the guy sign up as a member so the thread was unlocked to allow him to have a say.
Once the thread went in the toilet, it was locked again.
Post by: elk247 on May 16, 2013, 10:50:25 AM
There was really nowhere good that the thread was going.I'm looking forward to seeing the results of the offer. Both your son and Monsterbulls could benefit from it. I will reserve judgment until then. I assumed it was locked because he was soliciting business and was not a site sponsor? In any event, some good was accomplished in the previous thread. The guy has a chance to repair his image and business's reputation publicly. We will see.
I am looking into the hunt offer though.
I'll let everyone know what happens.
Post by: Band on May 16, 2013, 10:52:17 AM
Post by: mrmoskillz on May 16, 2013, 10:54:39 AM
It all boils down to honesty. Regardless of a person's English skills, honesty can help a person gain respect but dishonesty will result in "internet murder" every time. :twocents::yeah:
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 16, 2013, 10:57:19 AM
For the record I do respect pianoman and his opinion, I just wanted to tell my side.
we're all good, Moz. :tup:
Post by: jackmaster on May 16, 2013, 12:02:25 PM
Post by: iRem on May 16, 2013, 12:05:16 PM
Post by: billdo5 on May 16, 2013, 12:06:08 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 16, 2013, 12:07:52 PM
Post by: iRem on May 16, 2013, 12:08:28 PM
Billdo for president get it right :chuckle: :IBCOOL:President of Barbour Outfitters maybe! Lol
Post by: turkeyfeather on May 16, 2013, 12:10:07 PM
My fellow Americans,... :chuckle: I think me teens and twenties might prove to be a problem! :yike: :yike: :bdid:Well you told the truth, you are definitely out of the running now. :chuckle:
Post by: iRem on May 16, 2013, 12:11:50 PM
Should we impeach him before he begins?!?!My fellow Americans,... :chuckle: I think me teens and twenties might prove to be a problem! :yike: :yike: :bdid:Well you told the truth, you are definitely out of the running now. :chuckle:
Post by: turkeyfeather on May 16, 2013, 12:15:20 PM
Post by: billdo5 on May 16, 2013, 12:17:39 PM
Post by: gaddy on May 16, 2013, 12:20:24 PM
Post by: mrmoskillz on May 16, 2013, 12:21:12 PM
Billdo for president get it right :chuckle: :IBCOOL:
You will have to settle for being Monica Lewinsky :yike: lol you asked to :stirthepot:
Post by: h20hunter on May 16, 2013, 12:23:29 PM
Post by: boneaddict on May 16, 2013, 12:24:02 PM
Post by: billdo5 on May 16, 2013, 12:29:51 PM
maybe you could go shake a bear ??
beer* learn to spell lol
Post by: Buckmark on May 16, 2013, 12:41:08 PM
I am pretty sure he meant "bear" and not beer....shake that bear....I'm not going any further with it..maybe you could go shake a bear ??
beer* learn to spell lol
Post by: mossback91 on May 16, 2013, 12:45:30 PM
I'm sure bildo knows what he really meant!!! heck he prolly filmed it!I am pretty sure he meant "bear" and not beer....shake that bear....I'm not going any further with it..maybe you could go shake a bear ??
beer* learn to spell lol
Post by: billdo5 on May 16, 2013, 12:45:48 PM
Post by: Band on May 16, 2013, 12:47:43 PM
My fellow Americans,... :chuckle: I think me teens and twenties might prove to be a problem! :yike: :yike: :bdid:Maybe, maybe not. Did you inhale? ;)
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 16, 2013, 12:50:00 PM
Post by: snowpack on May 16, 2013, 12:51:41 PM
Post by: duckmen1 on May 16, 2013, 01:46:11 PM
Post by: Netminder01 on May 16, 2013, 02:28:50 PM
Let me first say, I didn't like to see the vultures swarming and given I am "the guy" SPUD initially solicited about Barbour and his services I remain very thankful for all the good guys who gave direct feedback based on personal interaction or provided a bit more critical hole-poking to the story Hillbilly was selling.
The verdict was still pending and I for one felt the negative comments were slowing down with a few solutions being offered (i.e. free hunt for a Hunt-WA member, youth guide addition, etc). Hillbilly didn't do himself any favors and the overall conduct of a few pushed the boundaries of where I feel forums should go but equally surprising is the arbitrary call to lock this thread.
Yeah, it was "entertaining" but I've never seen a forum or thread get locked. I have to imagine it's happened before but I've been on here for a few years, mostly as a passive observer but I'm on plenty of forums and in technology and social media for a living. The absolute last thing I would expect from the great guys on this thread and those administer it would've been to censor it.
If guys were stepping out of line they should be addressed. Pianoman (and a few others) attempted to calm the swarm down a few times as I recall - but if those offenders don't get back in line they should be dealt with appropriately and individually. The rest of us benefit from the conversation and still interested in seeking the a greater understanding of the situation. We should not be left to PMing Hillbilly privately since part of the concern is he's scamming people and I for one don't have the as much experience as many others here.
Should the actions of a few prevent the rest of this forum from understanding or hoping something will be brought to bear which settles it?
Again, just my :twocents: but I'm really - really surprised the decision to lock the thread was made.
Net
Post by: fillthefreezer on May 16, 2013, 02:42:31 PM
threads on here get locked all the time. just ask a question about native poaching or something and bam, 24hr later locked...
Again, just my :twocents: but I'm really - really surprised the decision to lock the thread was made.
Net
our mods dont have time to watch a thread thats blowing up like that and keep it clean
Post by: jackelope on May 16, 2013, 02:58:10 PM
My :twocents:...
Let me first say, I didn't like to see the vultures swarming and given I am "the guy" SPUD initially solicited about Barbour and his services I remain very thankful for all the good guys who gave direct feedback based on personal interaction or provided a bit more critical hole-poking to the story Hillbilly was selling.
The verdict was still pending and I for one felt the negative comments were slowing down with a few solutions being offered (i.e. free hunt for a Hunt-WA member, youth guide addition, etc). Hillbilly didn't do himself any favors and the overall conduct of a few pushed the boundaries of where I feel forums should go but equally surprising is the arbitrary call to lock this thread.
Should the actions of a few prevent the rest of this forum from understanding or hoping something will be brought to bear which settles it?
Again, just my :twocents: but I'm really - really surprised the decision to lock the thread was made.
Net
So...when a thread is to the point where nothing good is going to come of it, we have to babysit it, the beating just continues, etc....it gets locked. We don't delete anymore so the record stays but locking is not uncommon....it is a lot less common than it used to be, but it is definitely not something that doesn't happen.
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Yeah, it was "entertaining" but I've never seen a forum or thread get locked. I have to imagine it's happened before but I've been on here for a few years, mostly as a passive observer but I'm on plenty of forums and in technology and social media for a living. The absolute last thing I would expect from the great guys on this thread and those administer it would've been to censor it.
No censoring. It's still there. Obviously it was pointless to lock it, because someone just started this one.
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If guys were stepping out of line they should be addressed. Pianoman (and a few others) attempted to calm the swarm down a few times as I recall - but if those offenders don't get back in line they should be dealt with appropriately and individually. The rest of us benefit from the conversation and still interested in seeking the a greater understanding of the situation. We should not be left to PMing Hillbilly privately since part of the concern is he's scamming people and I for one don't have the as much experience as many others here.
That's what I was saying in my last posts in this thread. 17 pages and 425 posts...We don't have time to babysit 1 gigantic thread with nothing but a bunch of crap after the first few pages and address every post that needs to be addressed. It is against the rules to insult someone on here. That whole thread was people insulting that guy. How is that right? I'm not going to sit and wait for every new post that comes up so I can nuke it because someone picked on the guy's spelling or grammar or whatever. It should have just stayed locked the 1st time around, then we probably wouldn't be having this discussion.
Us mods are all volunteers. We all have real lives and work and family and everything else that most adults have. I'd love to think that the forum, mostly comprised of adults, would not need constant monitoring and babysitting, but the simple fact of the matter is, it does. That is why I feel like giant, pointless threads on here that are going nowhere should get locked now and then.
Post by: jackelope on May 16, 2013, 02:59:26 PM
threads on here get locked all the time. just ask a question about native poaching or something and bam, 24hr later locked...
Again, just my :twocents: but I'm really - really surprised the decision to lock the thread was made.
Net
our mods dont have time to watch a thread thats blowing up like that and keep it clean
But in those 24 hours there will be 132 posts in said thread trashing native americans.
Not awesome, especially since it's happened 132 times in the past.
Post by: pianoman9701 on May 16, 2013, 03:01:46 PM
Post by: Orion88 on May 16, 2013, 03:14:28 PM
Post by: Jonathan_S on May 16, 2013, 03:14:55 PM
I'm sure bildo knows what he really meant!!! heck he prolly filmed it!I am pretty sure he meant "bear" and not beer....shake that bear....I'm not going any further with it..maybe you could go shake a bear ??
beer* learn to spell lol
:chuckle:Bwhahahahahahahahaha! :chuckle: :bdid:
Post by: turkeyfeather on May 16, 2013, 03:18:43 PM
Post by: fillthefreezer on May 16, 2013, 03:30:19 PM
exactly. i hope you didnt take this with any sort of tone other than matter of fact as it was intendedthreads on here get locked all the time. just ask a question about native poaching or something and bam, 24hr later locked...
Again, just my :twocents: but I'm really - really surprised the decision to lock the thread was made.
Net
our mods dont have time to watch a thread thats blowing up like that and keep it clean
But in those 24 hours there will be 132 posts in said thread trashing native americans.
Not awesome, especially since it's happened 132 times in the past.
Post by: Netminder01 on May 16, 2013, 03:43:59 PM
I don't have the visibility to history to other threads requiring similar action so I'll defer; sounds like similar instances have occurred which required similar action.
As much as I can, I understand the labor of love that goes into any volunteer gig and can only imagine the increase in time spent on dealing with a thread which clearly got out of hand - I'm not sure anyone would disagree with it. However, I do have a pretty good idea on the effort it takes to perform administrative chores on forums to the extent I can on Hunt-WA without having the visibility of knowing what tools you have at your disposal to administer this forum and members. If it's a heavy burden of time because of manual effort I could easily see how it could become a time suck... multiplied by the hundreds/thousands of other threads needing management but it does not lessen my personal appreciation for what you guys are doing nor so many others on this thread.
I never saw an attack on native americans or any race and of course - that's atrocious but to me, that's where an individual is banned or held accountable for his/her posts, not killing the entire conversation. We all signed up for a code of conduct and should be expected to follow it... no different than the work place.
Josh - I'm not sure I agree with nothing good coming from it. Clearly, there was a swell of negative comments and absolutely flooding in which moved quickly to personal attacks when Shane fanned the flames with his writing style and boasting of records, # of kills or earned revenue which just didn't add up. I don't condone it at all but I actually felt we were headed in the right direction (IMO). To be completely transparent, there was absolutely good that came out of this threaded discussion. A few classy guys reached out to me privately to discuss possible hunts this coming year. Had the thread not blown up - quite possibly, the visibility to members would've been reduced and I may not have had the same chance to connect with guys who seem to have the same passion and ethics as I do. Of course, this is self-gratifying but even before the thread was locked, I made comments to co-workers as well as SPUD how cool it was for a a couple guys to reach out proactively. That demonstrates class in the midst of some unclassy comments.
Anyway, the good thing about you guys being admins and me being a member is we don't have to agree :P. I was simply sharing my perspective and surprise the thread was locked but having set social strategies and implemented social technologies for small to very large organizations I assure you none have deleted/locked a conversation... just individual users. This is why I was so surprised.
BTW - if you'd like to review any newer forum technologies I happen to know a guy. wink wink. :IBCOOL:
Thanks and appreciate all your comments and thoughts - even Hillbilly's.
Post by: jackelope on May 16, 2013, 03:46:34 PM
exactly. i hope you didnt take this with any sort of tone other than matter of fact as it was intendedthreads on here get locked all the time. just ask a question about native poaching or something and bam, 24hr later locked...
Again, just my :twocents: but I'm really - really surprised the decision to lock the thread was made.
Net
our mods dont have time to watch a thread thats blowing up like that and keep it clean
But in those 24 hours there will be 132 posts in said thread trashing native americans.
Not awesome, especially since it's happened 132 times in the past.
No...we're on the same page.
Post by: Bob33 on May 16, 2013, 03:56:23 PM
We’re mindful that web content is visible to visitors as well as members. Some may not hunt, and may not understand our culture very well. Members of this site are a small portion of the 3% of Washington’s population that hunts, but are possibly the face of all hunters to site visitors.
The recent tragic loss of Colockumelk brought out the good, generous, compassionate, and kind nature of so many on here. I would like to believe that visitors to this site, including his wife, saw that.
However, we need to occasionally intervene in threads that go sideways for a variety of issues. The thread about the Graham outfitter had received a point where the bad outweighed the good. Enough information had been posted that would allow members to make an informed choice about the use of his services. Continuous degrading of the outfitter’s business, justifiable or not, really didn’t provide much value and was reaching a point that wasn’t doing us as hunters any good.
Moderators constantly communicate behind the scenes, and rarely make decisions without consensus.
This is a great site. Let’s keep it that way.
Post by: jackelope on May 16, 2013, 04:02:30 PM
.............Thanks and appreciate all your comments and thoughts - even Hillbilly's.
Chuck-
This forum is totally manual as far as I know. The "censor" function that censors swear words is automatic, but that's about it as far as I know. I am not a tech guy. Dale has a guy hired for technical issues. He is set up as with "administrator" status so he can access everything that he needs. I don't know of any automated function.
As far as the nothing good coming from it part..I probably shouldn't have said nothing good...the 1st 2-3 pages were great. Perfect. Hunters helping hunters evade a possible huge issue. Just what this forum is here for. However, after it took a nose dive, that's when it should've ended. It ended a lot later than it should have if you ask me.
The longer you spend here, you'll find threads do get locked. I'd say it takes a lot now to get banned but we do ban. Dale has backed us off of banning people permanently. We might give out a 24 hour ban, a 3 day or 7 day but almost never do we perma-ban anymore. You have to be a pretty vile individual these days to get banned permanently...that or you've gotten the little bans multiple times.
Post by: Netminder01 on May 16, 2013, 04:13:29 PM
.............Thanks and appreciate all your comments and thoughts - even Hillbilly's.
Chuck-
This forum is totally manual as far as I know. The "censor" function that censors swear words is automatic, but that's about it as far as I know. I am not a tech guy. Dale has a guy hired for technical issues. He is set up as with "administrator" status so he can access everything that he needs. I don't know of any automated function.
As far as the nothing good coming from it part..I probably shouldn't have said nothing good...the 1st 2-3 pages were great. Perfect. Hunters helping hunters evade a possible huge issue. Just what this forum is here for. However, after it took a nose dive, that's when it should've ended. It ended a lot later than it should have if you ask me.
The longer you spend here, you'll find threads do get locked. I'd say it takes a lot now to get banned but we do ban. Dale has backed us off of banning people permanently. We might give out a 24 hour ban, a 3 day or 7 day but almost never do we perma-ban anymore. You have to be a pretty vile individual these days to get banned permanently...that or you've gotten the little bans multiple times.
Thanks Josh!
Post by: boneaddict on May 16, 2013, 05:01:29 PM
Post by: Old Man Yager on May 16, 2013, 05:10:35 PM
Post by: jackelope on May 16, 2013, 05:19:33 PM
I don't think this guy was "attacked", and besides, he was giving it right back to us. As a group, the hunters on this forum will call BS on anybody that says they have taken 200 elk in the past couple of years. We all have a hunting buddy or know a hunter that always tells us BS stories, and that's what MonsterBullSh*ter was doing. I'm just sayin!!!
The insults were flying both ways maybe...but which way doesn't matter. The BS was called on this guy before he even joined the forum. Call it what you want. It's over and done.
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http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,4100.0.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,4100.0.html)
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Post by: Dan-o on May 16, 2013, 05:47:20 PM
You mods rock - except you spend too much time explaining why you locked a thread that deserved locking.
Now if I was a mod.... I'd probably have to ban myself, cause I'd tell them to pound sand for the incessant whining. :dunno:
Post by: jackelope on May 16, 2013, 05:52:52 PM
:tup:
You mods rock - except you spend too much time explaining why you locked a thread that deserved locking.
Now if I was a mod.... I'd probably have to ban myself, cause I'd tell them to pound sand for the incessant whining. :dunno:
I'm all done explaining this one.
We used to tell people to pound sand for whining, but the people whined about it so we quit. Instead we just listen to it now. I don't get it.
Post by: Bob33 on May 16, 2013, 05:56:28 PM
:tup:We are occasionally told to ban ourselves, but not quite in those exact words.
You mods rock - except you spend too much time explaining why you locked a thread that deserved locking.
Now if I was a mod.... I'd probably have to ban myself, cause I'd tell them to pound sand for the incessant whining. :dunno:
Post by: turkeyfeather on May 16, 2013, 06:08:49 PM
Post by: Cylvertip on May 16, 2013, 06:09:35 PM
I could give a rip about grammar on here, it does detract from a web page promoting your services though.
All the info just does not add up on this one. :twocents:
Post by: James E on May 16, 2013, 06:16:06 PM
Post by: Netminder01 on May 16, 2013, 06:24:07 PM
Have you guys (mods/admin/owner) considered implementing a rating system of members and their content contribution by any community member? I'm sure you get plenty of 'report to moderator' feedback but members could rate the value of the content (pic, video, replies, insights, etc) contributed. That way over time individuals who regularly contribute solid feedback, advice, insights, etc would eventually bubble up to combine with the overall # of posts. If we're seeking quality it may reduce folks from just posting a pile of useless or inappropriate stuff.
Maybe a combination of # of posts & community rating gives you X. I really don't know what X would be yet that's what it's a random thought. Maybe a special iconography or badge to go with your profile but it also gives credibility to those that know what they're talking about. Mods and admins gets X right away but everyone starts in the same place. Hunt-WA members would also be able to give a negative rating of a fellow user too drive towards a heightened community status that maintains value and something others seek to achieve.
Maybe there's a widget, tool or a tiny bit of custom code to provide that functionality providing you guys liked the idea and it was flushed out a bit more. My hunch is the competitive nature of guys on this board might drive them to behave better and actually think through posting instead of some of the verbal vomit.
Whatcha think?
I gotta get back to work - big pitch tomorrow but before I do I feel a slight responsibility to post a little humor. If you guys haven't seen this, trust me - you don't have it that bad. Imagine having to moderate the interaction between the members and these guys on Hunt-WA. Whoa! You might make Hillbilly a Mod! :bash:
Epic Brand Meltdown
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/this-is-the-most-epic-brand-meltdown-on-facebook-ever (http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/this-is-the-most-epic-brand-meltdown-on-facebook-ever)
Post by: turkeyfeather on May 16, 2013, 06:50:26 PM
Post by: elk247 on May 16, 2013, 07:02:17 PM
Post by: fillthefreezer on May 16, 2013, 07:09:48 PM
Tangent + random thought... since I have all the big guys eyes right now.its a good idea but you hang around a bit and it becomes pretty obvious, some of the folks with lots of knowledge and some true trophies are very quiet here and its a shame as theres lot to be learned from them
Have you guys (mods/admin/owner) considered implementing a rating system of members and their content contribution by any community member? I'm sure you get plenty of 'report to moderator' feedback but members could rate the value of the content (pic, video, replies, insights, etc) contributed. That way over time individuals who regularly contribute solid feedback, advice, insights, etc would eventually bubble up to combine with the overall # of posts. If we're seeking quality it may reduce folks from just posting a pile of useless or inappropriate stuff.
Maybe a combination of # of posts & community rating gives you X. I really don't know what X would be yet that's what it's a random thought. Maybe a special iconography or badge to go with your profile but it also gives credibility to those that know what they're talking about. Mods and admins gets X right away but everyone starts in the same place. Hunt-WA members would also be able to give a negative rating of a fellow user too drive towards a heightened community status that maintains value and something others seek to achieve.
Maybe there's a widget, tool or a tiny bit of custom code to provide that functionality providing you guys liked the idea and it was flushed out a bit more. My hunch is the competitive nature of guys on this board might drive them to behave better and actually think through posting instead of some of the verbal vomit.
Whatcha think?
I gotta get back to work - big pitch tomorrow but before I do I feel a slight responsibility to post a little humor. If you guys haven't seen this, trust me - you don't have it that bad. Imagine having to moderate the interaction between the members and these guys on Hunt-WA. Whoa! You might make Hillbilly a Mod! :bash:
Epic Brand Meltdown
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/this-is-the-most-epic-brand-meltdown-on-facebook-ever (http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/this-is-the-most-epic-brand-meltdown-on-facebook-ever)
Post by: Netminder01 on May 16, 2013, 08:12:03 PM
:tup:
Post by: turkeyfeather on May 16, 2013, 08:37:31 PM
Post by: billdo5 on May 16, 2013, 08:49:07 PM
I was going to post this on the other thread, but the subject is locked now. I have hunted with monster bulls and I know him well. He does have a lot of private land to hunt, that holds some nice bulls. He will work hard for you as well.im talking to him on the phone right now.... good guy lol
Post by: Netminder01 on May 16, 2013, 09:22:53 PM
Don't get me wrong net. I wasn't trying to bash you. I just don't think a rating system like that would help more than maybe hurt. There are a couple other sites I belong to that may have an idea. One other hunting site has an applaud/smite ticker, and a motorcycle site has a thanked feature. :twocents:
Oh no worries - I'm not that thin skinned - I didn't take it as bashing at all.
Yeah, I probably conveyed a specific execution instead of a broad inquiry on a few things but yeah - likes, thumbs up are different tactics to implement the overall idea. I also don't know enough of the history and time you guys commit so consider foot inserted into mouth.
Post by: turkeyfeather on May 16, 2013, 09:39:21 PM
Oh I've been known to stick my foot into my mouth on here a time or two. I sometimes type before I think. :tup:Don't get me wrong net. I wasn't trying to bash you. I just don't think a rating system like that would help more than maybe hurt. There are a couple other sites I belong to that may have an idea. One other hunting site has an applaud/smite ticker, and a motorcycle site has a thanked feature. :twocents:
Oh no worries - I'm not that thin skinned - I didn't take it as bashing at all.
Yeah, I probably conveyed a specific execution instead of a broad inquiry on a few things but yeah - likes, thumbs up are different tactics to implement the overall idea. I also don't know enough of the history and time you guys commit so consider foot inserted into mouth.
Post by: billdo5 on May 16, 2013, 09:41:11 PM
Post by: monster bulls on May 16, 2013, 10:02:02 PM
Post by: elk247 on May 16, 2013, 10:12:14 PM
I thought it was a good idea. Take your foot out of your mouth. This is a great site but im sure suggestions, ideas, discussion will always be welcome.Don't get me wrong net. I wasn't trying to bash you. I just don't think a rating system like that would help more than maybe hurt. There are a couple other sites I belong to that may have an idea. One other hunting site has an applaud/smite ticker, and a motorcycle site has a thanked feature. :twocents:
Oh no worries - I'm not that thin skinned - I didn't take it as bashing at all.
Yeah, I probably conveyed a specific execution instead of a broad inquiry on a few things but yeah - likes, thumbs up are different tactics to implement the overall idea. I also don't know enough of the history and time you guys commit so consider foot inserted into mouth.
Post by: Bullkllr on May 16, 2013, 10:46:08 PM
thanks james e how ru and hows pops doing these guys are funny on here 1 or 2 of them are cool you how many elk we got!
Monster Bulls- Sent you a personal message here, and sent a message through your website.
Post by: billdo5 on May 16, 2013, 11:09:10 PM
Ur not special enough to get a phone call like me :chuckle: :IBCOOL:thanks james e how ru and hows pops doing these guys are funny on here 1 or 2 of them are cool you how many elk we got!
Monster Bulls- Sent you a personal message here, and sent a message through your website.
Post by: Spuddieselwwu on May 16, 2013, 11:59:57 PM
thanks james e how ru and hows pops doing these guys are funny on here 1 or 2 of them are cool you how many elk we got!
Here we go, guys. Should we just lock the thread now?
Post by: Bullkllr on May 17, 2013, 07:03:05 AM
Ur not special enough to get a phone call like me :chuckle: :IBCOOL:thanks james e how ru and hows pops doing these guys are funny on here 1 or 2 of them are cool you how many elk we got!
Monster Bulls- Sent you a personal message here, and sent a message through your website.
Special has more than one definition.
I guess I'm just old school enough to believe that people should say what they mean, mean what they say, then stand behind it.
Post by: jackelope on May 17, 2013, 07:18:33 AM
thanks james e how ru and hows pops doing these guys are funny on here 1 or 2 of them are cool you how many elk we got!
Here we go, guys. Should we just lock the thread now?
Pretty soon. I thought one locked thread would provide enough of a hint. Apparently not.
Post by: Old Man Yager on May 17, 2013, 08:07:24 AM
Post by: billdo5 on May 17, 2013, 08:26:32 AM
Post by: monster bulls on May 17, 2013, 09:39:16 AM
Post by: Spuddieselwwu on May 17, 2013, 09:46:48 AM
Monsterbulls had too many guaranteed shots one night, met a lady and had a romantic rendezvous, never to hear from her again. 19 years goes by, Monsterbulls happens to sign onto hunting-washington to defend himself against numerous (albeit truthful) allegations of bad business practices only to find (and hire) his long lost son, Bildo5.
Post by: jackelope on May 17, 2013, 09:50:39 AM
Post by: Spuddieselwwu on May 17, 2013, 09:53:40 AM
Post by: billdo5 on May 17, 2013, 11:04:48 AM
lol bill seen lots of elk this morning about145 good morning
I thought it was 245 damn I can't count... That's makes two monster :chuckle:
Post by: 6x6in6 on May 17, 2013, 11:06:51 AM
Can we just let it die already?
10 - 9 - 8 - 7...... :chuckle:
Post by: duckmen1 on May 17, 2013, 11:18:12 AM
Post by: billdo5 on May 17, 2013, 11:27:07 AM
Post by: duckmen1 on May 17, 2013, 11:31:49 AM
If its indeed true that would help out a lot about things on here. Good advertisement etc. but some who make millions cant afford a simple digital camera.
I think it would be a whole new game if he was to prove us wrong and making a new topic about his scouting season and show his experiences along the way.
Post by: billdo5 on May 17, 2013, 11:33:10 AM
Post by: duckmen1 on May 17, 2013, 11:33:56 AM
Post by: billdo5 on May 17, 2013, 11:35:57 AM
Post by: Elkpiss on May 17, 2013, 11:36:49 AM
Whats the show called. :dunno:
I think "STAY HUNTIN"... :dunno:
Post by: Broken Arrow on May 17, 2013, 12:02:33 PM
Post by: billdo5 on May 17, 2013, 12:04:07 PM
Post by: turkeyfeather on May 17, 2013, 12:10:07 PM
Looking back on the past few days. I actually send Monster Bulls an apology through pm. I was one who was stirring the pot and poking fun. I did so as I truly believed this was all a joke. However, after seeing this through, I think this guy is not only seriously challenged and may have a disability, such as dyslexia (i work in this field so i have some knowledge) , I think he is really trying to clear his name. Regardless what i initially believed, based on reviews, I am willing to give this guy a chance to produce some positive outcomes. If it doesn't work out.....let the chips fall where they belong!. Until then....no more comments from me as everyone deserves a second chance.I agree with you Arrow. That is why I have also not made any more comments on this for the last day or so. I didn't care for the cocky attitude but if he can back it up I will gladly eat my words. Having thought about it if I was getting blasted by a bunch of people I didn't know I'd probably come out swinging too.
Post by: h20hunter on May 17, 2013, 12:16:42 PM
I'd like to see some trail cam pics. Sounds like he has a lot and the forum has a section for it. Who doesn't like seeing pics of elk on cam?
Post by: billdo5 on May 17, 2013, 12:17:16 PM
I've kept my mouth shutt....no all caps typing.......go the the facebook page theres pics on there from trail cameras...
I'd like to see some trail cam pics. Sounds like he has a lot and the forum has a section for it. Who doesn't like seeing pics of elk on cam?
Post by: Broken Arrow on May 17, 2013, 12:30:06 PM
Post by: billdo5 on May 17, 2013, 12:40:47 PM
Post by: Broken Arrow on May 17, 2013, 12:57:08 PM
I know your are kid, but i was thinking a kid who has never proclaimed to have called in numerous moster bulls, yet alone shot an elk
Post by: turkeyfeather on May 17, 2013, 01:00:29 PM
Some, or many times, I have my alligator mouth overrule my humming bird ass. Here is what i suggest, and I am ready to put my $$ speak for this. I still would like to see someone go on a free hunt with this guy, specifically a kid and his dad. If the hunt is what he says, quality, ethical, etc, then I would be willing to put forth $250 for the deposit for the following year, with the conditions being that it be provided to a soldier that has never killed an elk that is returning from a war zone. I'm pretty sure if his guide service produces what he says, this would be a great way to get back on track and I believe a few of us would also pony up for this cause.I agree arrow. I would like to see him make good on his offer but without the catch. If he's truly that good he wouldn't need it cause guys would line up to go hunt with him. Otherwise the catch gives him an out if he doesn't come thru. I will also put up some money for a soldier or even better the kid of a fallen soldier to hunt.
Post by: billdo5 on May 17, 2013, 01:01:56 PM
Billdo,I was joking... i will probably be hunting there anyway lol
I know your are kid, but i was thinking a kid who has never proclaimed to have called in numerous moster bulls, yet alone shot an elk
Post by: billdo5 on May 17, 2013, 01:03:00 PM
Post by: Ccortez on May 17, 2013, 01:10:41 PM
Post by: billdo5 on May 17, 2013, 01:12:20 PM
Post by: Ccortez on May 17, 2013, 01:14:11 PM
Post by: billdo5 on May 17, 2013, 01:15:00 PM
Post by: Ccortez on May 17, 2013, 01:16:00 PM
Post by: billdo5 on May 17, 2013, 01:17:09 PM
Post by: Ccortez on May 17, 2013, 01:18:28 PM
Post by: billdo5 on May 17, 2013, 01:19:25 PM
Post by: billdo5 on May 17, 2013, 01:22:05 PM
And I don't need to get drawn to get a bull I do pretty good on my own every yearlets see them buddy
Post by: Broken Arrow on May 17, 2013, 01:27:29 PM
Post by: billdo5 on May 17, 2013, 01:28:36 PM
Post by: jackelope on May 17, 2013, 01:32:01 PM
:nono: