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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: cvandervort on May 19, 2013, 06:21:24 PM

Title: What does "avg points" mean?!
Post by: cvandervort on May 19, 2013, 06:21:24 PM: Alright guys, help me settle a bet: does "avg points" mean the avg number of points among individuals that put in for the tag OR is it the number of points that last year's winner had? Hope that makes sense...
Title: What does "avg points" mean?!
Post by: jackelope on May 19, 2013, 06:23:34 PM: Depends where you're looking. Average points to draw if you're looking at special hunt choices.
Title: Re: What does "avg points" mean?!
Post by: Eli346 on May 19, 2013, 06:23:47 PM: Average points for all the people that have drawn the tag.
Title: Re: What does "avg points" mean?!
Post by: bobcat on May 19, 2013, 06:26:31 PM: Quote from: Eli346 on May 19, 2013, 06:23:47 PM
Average points for all the people that have drawn the tag.

:yeah:

In general, it's a meaningless number.
Title: Re: What does "avg points" mean?!
Post by: actionshooter on May 19, 2013, 06:28:22 PM: With the draw odds it really doesn't mean anything...............
Title: Re: What does "avg points" mean?!
Post by: trophyhunt on May 19, 2013, 06:40:00 PM: There used to be 3 tags in the unit I apply for, about 3 years ago a guy with 2 points drew, the other had 4 points and the last tag went to a guy with 6 points. So the average on next years regulations for that permit hunt showed the average at 4 points. I'm glad that doesn't happen every year!
Title: Re: What does "avg points" mean?!
Post by: cvandervort on May 19, 2013, 06:48:39 PM: Oh okay. So if there is only one tag available, and the person who draws only has one point, the "avg points" = 1?! This makes our formula to determine draw odds essentially worthless.
Title: Re: What does "avg points" mean?!
Post by: bobcat on May 19, 2013, 06:51:31 PM: Quote from: cvandervort on May 19, 2013, 06:48:39 PM
Oh okay. So if there is only one tag available, and the person who draws only has one point, the "avg points" = 1?! This makes our formula to determine draw odds essentially worthless.

That's right. However I don't believe anyone uses that number to calculate draw odds.
Title: Re: What does "avg points" mean?!
Post by: cvandervort on May 19, 2013, 07:00:15 PM: Someone on here came up with a formula that used that number. I entered about 50 different hunts into the formula before a buddy of mine disagreed with what "avg points" actually means.
Title: Re: What does "avg points" mean?!
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on May 19, 2013, 07:01:42 PM: I am sure many have MAX Average points .... :chuckle:
Title: Re: What does "avg points" mean?!
Post by: bobcat on May 19, 2013, 08:20:08 PM: Quote from: cvandervort on May 19, 2013, 07:00:15 PM
Someone on here came up with a formula that used that number. I entered about 50 different hunts into the formula before a buddy of mine disagreed with what "avg points" actually means.

They didn't use that number. They used the actual average points for everyone that applied. Not just the average of those who drew.
Title: Re: What does "avg points" mean?!
Post by: cvandervort on May 19, 2013, 08:35:12 PM: How were those numbers found?
Title: Re: What does "avg points" mean?!
Post by: coachcw on May 19, 2013, 08:44:59 PM: average number of points it took to draw the tag.
Title: Re: What does "avg points" mean?!
Post by: bobcat on May 19, 2013, 08:50:48 PM: Quote from: cvandervort on May 19, 2013, 08:35:12 PM
How were those numbers found?

http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/points/2012.php (http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/permits/results/points/2012.php)
Title: Re: What does "avg points" mean?!
Post by: cvandervort on May 19, 2013, 09:17:41 PM: Lifesaver bobcat, thanks
Title: Re: What does "avg points" mean?!
Post by: Guy on May 21, 2013, 08:37:34 AM: On average, for me, it means "not selected." :dunno:
Title: What does "avg points" mean?!
Post by: Ridgerunner on May 21, 2013, 12:05:11 PM: Avg points - I looked up the definition in the dictionary. It said, a meaningless number meant to give false hopes of getting close to drawing soon. An encouragement to buy more applications in future years.
Title: Re: What does "avg points" mean?!
Post by: brocka on May 21, 2013, 12:12:04 PM: Quote from: Ridgerunner on May 21, 2013, 12:05:11 PM
Avg points - I looked up the definition in the dictionary. It said, a meaningless number meant to give false hopes of getting close to drawing soon. An encouragement to buy more applications in future years.

Spot on.