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Title: Picked up three La Mancha goats..
Post by: saylean on June 12, 2013, 01:16:19 PM: Picked up three la mancha pack goats the other day....gonna try my hand at the idea...it will be a few years before they are ready, but will be fun in the mean time....this fall, I might have two of them pack a trap here or there for practice....I will post a few pics when I get them taken....
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Post by: Smossy on June 12, 2013, 01:17:34 PM: Fresh goat milk please.
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Post by: saylean on June 12, 2013, 01:20:23 PM: momma puts out 7 cups a day...the kids are bucks...soon to be wethers...
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Post by: jackelope on June 12, 2013, 01:22:11 PM: Cool, it's something I'd love to get into one of these days.
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Post by: saylean on June 12, 2013, 01:30:19 PM: Scarlet is the momma....little over a year old...

and the white one is cesar, brown is octavious...4 weeks...
Title: Picked up three La Mancha goats..
Post by: sirmissalot on June 12, 2013, 01:40:52 PM: Right on, a buddy of mine just got three pack goats. I have a couple Nubians, had them about a year they are cool to have around but have been giving me heck trying to kill my apple trees... Other than that they are easy I'd like to get more and train a couple to pack for me.
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Post by: jackelope on June 12, 2013, 02:32:22 PM: I think you'll find Nubians too lazy to work as pack goats.
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Post by: seth30 on June 12, 2013, 02:35:16 PM: Looks like a great deal :tup:
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Post by: sirmissalot on June 12, 2013, 02:42:15 PM: Quote from: jackelope on June 12, 2013, 02:32:22 PM
I think you'll find Nubians too lazy to work as pack goats.

Yeah I wasn't thinking of making them packers I meant get some new ones of a different breed. These guys are scrawny and noisy. We'll see how my buddies do before I go that route, the ones I have now are just for yard maintenance. Like trying to rape and kill my apple trees apparently.
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Post by: jackelope on June 12, 2013, 02:50:54 PM: You could get into the milk business if you've got females. They're great milk goats.
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Post by: X-Force on June 12, 2013, 03:14:29 PM: Those things are homely without ears... poor poor roman goats.
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Post by: saylean on June 12, 2013, 04:36:18 PM: Quote from: X-Force on June 12, 2013, 03:14:29 PM
Those things are homely without ears... poor poor roman goats.

So ugly they're cute brother...kinda like you. ;)
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Post by: quadrafire on June 12, 2013, 05:02:32 PM: Do you just move those wire panels around the yard and let them "graze" it down in sections?
Looks like fun. Goats have great personalities (usually)
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Post by: saylean on June 12, 2013, 06:24:25 PM: Those wire panels are from an old cookie mill I helped tear down years ago, stainless steel....currently, it is their main fence that comes off the barn...I am working out a few ideas to quickly set up little areas from them to work on...the portable electric fence I bought so far, leaves something to be desired. I have let them out just on their own, momma just follows me for the most part, as well as babies...but I dont want to have to be out there all the time...
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Post by: jackelope on June 12, 2013, 07:32:01 PM: Just fence your whole place in. I think hrd2find has a thread on here with some good detail on what you need for fencing to keep them contained. Some barbed wire, 4-5 strands starting at a foot high or so. Just remember they'll eat whatever they can access.
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Post by: steen on June 12, 2013, 10:12:29 PM: I love goats! Miss having them but don't miss finding someone to milk them for me when I'm gone. Really miss kidding the does out. Ours always kidded after the afternoon feed.
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Post by: actionshooter on June 12, 2013, 10:15:39 PM: They look like good size for 4 weeks. Make sure you keep bottle feeding those little guys.
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Post by: KFhunter on June 12, 2013, 10:27:51 PM: I'd have to BBQ one of them :EAT:

I gotta get some feinting goats, pure intertainment there watching them fall over all the time :chuckle:

Then when you want to eat one you walk out there and yell "BOO!" the goat falls over and you slice the throat - easy pezy!

You sure wouldn't want to try to pack with one though :chuckle:
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Post by: MLHSN on June 12, 2013, 10:36:25 PM: Interesting thread :tup: I've been giving pack goats some serious thought lately. In a year or two when we get a little bigger property (Lord willing) we were thinking about giving them a try.

My biggest concern is, when we hike with them, what about predators? They sure as heck aren't coming in the tent with us. So I worry about predators coming along and snagging one at night. I hear it's really not an issue but the thought keeps crossing my mind.

The one question no one has really be able to answer for me is how fast they can hike at a sustained pace. 30 min. miles? 40 min miles?
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Post by: HUNTINCOUPLE on June 12, 2013, 10:50:31 PM: :tup:ù
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Post by: jackelope on June 13, 2013, 07:23:34 AM: Quote from: MLHSN on June 12, 2013, 10:36:25 PM
Interesting thread :tup: I've been giving pack goats some serious thought lately. In a year or two when we get a little bigger property (Lord willing) we were thinking about giving them a try.

My biggest concern is, when we hike with them, what about predators? They sure as heck aren't coming in the tent with us. So I worry about predators coming along and snagging one at night. I hear it's really not an issue but the thought keeps crossing my mind.

The one question no one has really be able to answer for me is how fast they can hike at a sustained pace. 30 min. miles? 40 min miles?

They're good for 7-10 miles a day with 25% of their body weight from what I hear. So a 200# goat will haul 50#. As far as predators go...there's not too much that can be done about it except leaving their horns on for some degree of defense. They'll grow some big horns. Bottle feed them so they bond solid to human contact. This will help keep them following you without a lead.
A couple good websites-
http://www.northwestpackgoats.com/ (http://www.northwestpackgoats.com/)
http://www.napga.org/ (http://www.napga.org/)
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Post by: bknilvr00 on June 13, 2013, 08:08:38 AM: My wife's two nubians would probably go for as long as we could. They stick to the "herd" like glue. And they dont shut up! If we let the horses out and they walk where the goats can't see them, you'd think they were being murdered. It's ridiculous. And I'm not even worried about predators of any kind, only rhodies.... Stupid goats tried to kill themselves with one. Nothing like finding a stall covered in green cud slime with two of the saddest looking goats ever. *shudder*

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Post by: MLHSN on June 13, 2013, 08:12:59 AM: Are Rhodies posionous? Good thing we don't have to many East of the Divide.

Ya, I knew they can hike a ways. I was just wondering how fast. I read somewhere that llamas aren't suppose to go faster then 40 min. miles or else the can get overexcerted.

Can they keep up with horses and a mild walk? I'm usually hiking 20-30 min. miles so I'm just curious if/how much I would have to slow down.
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Post by: saylean on June 13, 2013, 08:29:01 AM: Quote from: KFhunter on June 12, 2013, 10:27:51 PM
I'd have to BBQ one of them :EAT:

I gotta get some feinting goats, pure intertainment there watching them fall over all the time :chuckle:

Then when you want to eat one you walk out there and yell "BOO!" the goat falls over and you slice the throat - easy pezy!

You sure wouldn't want to try to pack with one though :chuckle:

LOL...you and I think the same...I told my girl I couldnt get fainting goats (although I wanted to) cause all I would do is get drunk and run around chasing them like homer simpson or something....

Yes, rhodies are poisonous, but they love eating them....kind of like twinkies for humans. ;)
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Post by: actionshooter on June 13, 2013, 05:19:58 PM: Quote from: MLHSN on June 13, 2013, 08:12:59 AM
Are Rhodies posionous?

YES, keep them away from Rhodies!
I have a fast pace when hiking and could wear the guys out by hiking too fast. They are great for some circumstances but they weren't the "end all" for hunting. It all depends on your style.

After having goats for 5-6 years I decided to go goat-less for a while. I do plan on going with the goats again in a few years when I am older.